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Drug war
Saturday, December 9, 2006 11:34 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Sunday, December 10, 2006 10:25 AM
DREAMTROVE
Quote: Yeah, but we don't get to decide what's "good enough. That's up to the koreans, the japanese, and anyone who competes with us"
Quote:And you Dreamtrove for approving that... I thought you to be a semi-reasonable person but after reading that I must say you truly disgust me as a human being.
Quote: buy a gun, keep it loaded, and sleep with one eye open.
Sunday, December 10, 2006 11:47 AM
YINYANG
You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: I'm a little surprised that none of the christians have posted here. No one seems to think that there is such a thing as a "drug problem" except me and Hero and possibly Rue. I guess I'm the looney fringe. There are a few times in your life when everone disagrees with you, and you gotta know you're right and stick to your guns. I know I'm right. I've got a ton of life experience to back it up, everything leads me to the conclusion that there *is* a drug problem. I came here to discuss what to do about this problem, which is the thing I don't know. Well, all the "ignore it" advice goes back to the first step "there is no problem" argument, which, yes, is exactly like Bush's "there is no global warming" argument.
Sunday, December 10, 2006 11:51 AM
SEVENPERCENT
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: I know the chemsitry of this pretty much backwards and forwards, and you're spouting gibberish, imho. POTUS and congress are examples of sound minds? Ph-lease.
Quote:People seem to be pretty stupid on this issue.
Quote:Convince you?
Quote:Just open your eyes, and tell me you don't see that people on drugs are less-sane then people not on drugs, and that cumulatively, people who use drugs don't get less sane, less sharp, and less productive.
Quote:That's like saying convince you the iraq war was wrong, or the holocaust for that matter. Which, btw, was a seriously amphetamine-induced event.
Quote:I'm stunned by this reception. The fact is, I KNOW that I'm not wrong, I got a ton of the real world experience backing me up.
Quote:People take drugs, they drop out of college, lose all their ambitions, gets crazy, get guns, hole up in their personal hell and shoot up. I've seen it a bizillion times, and so have all of you.
Quote:I actually think the only sane one here besides me may be Rue, and a couple of folks who didn't comment.
Quote:I'm a little surprised that none of the christians have posted here.
Quote:I guess I'm the looney fringe. There are a few times in your life when everone disagrees with you, and you gotta know you're right and stick to your guns.
Quote:Ever noticed that the magic Pot Smoking number is 420, and ever asked why? Well, I asked some of my local druggies and they said "oh, Hilter's birthday, of course" Yeah, should've known. Brave new world guys. Enjoy.
Sunday, December 10, 2006 11:55 AM
CITIZEN
Sunday, December 10, 2006 3:45 PM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Sunday, December 10, 2006 4:16 PM
Quote: but I somehow doubt anyone could call a POTUS a failure at life
Quote:All you have said is "drugs are bad because drugs are bad," and "believe me, drugs are bad."
Quote:I know lots of recreational users. Many who have high-powered jobs. I know a lawyer that loves his MJ on the weekends. He makes 5x what I make, and is probably 5x as smart. How does that example fit into your puzzle?
Quote: it's time to start thinking you may be wrong.
Quote: I again will state for the record that I bet you know someone personally, a brother or a close friend, who self-destructed on drugs and that's how you reached this conclusion.
Quote:But just because you've seen one (or two, or even 50) bad cases, that does not make it true for the majority.
Quote: **Raises hand*** I'm a Christian. I'm posting here.
Quote: So I guess you're The Decider in this thread? Hero can be your Rummy; I believe it was him who wanted to poison strangers.
Quote:The exact origin of the term is unknown. Cannabis users gather on April 20...
Sunday, December 10, 2006 4:18 PM
Sunday, December 10, 2006 4:23 PM
Sunday, December 10, 2006 6:07 PM
BABYWITHTHEPOWER
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: If you weren't using yourself, you'd see this clearly. The rest of us are completely unable to do our own thing because your own thing is fucking it up. You're free to do your own thing somewhere else, but not in our homes with our kids bringing your dealers and addicts and their AK47s and everything. No way, no gorram way. Not on my boat.
Sunday, December 10, 2006 6:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Sorry. My bad. I was thinking that POTUS was a total miserable failure. I still do. I didn't mean to say that a drug addict couldn't attain a position, I meant they can't (sure, there may be exceptions,) but in general, they can't perform a function, well, or as well as, a non-addict.
Quote:To be fair I think I said a great deal more.
Quote:But the other side of that is I have no interest in the argument "drugs are bad" because I think that's back pedalling,
Quote:I think it's a rhetorical trick aimed at getting the discussion away from solving the problem by questioning the existance of the problem, ie. it's exactly what the Bush admin has done on global warming, and I think you're doing it for the same reason.
Quote:I suspect most people get the destructive effects of drugs because they have seen it happen more than one.
Quote:Am I too close to the problem? Possibly. As I said a few times before, my sister is a rehab counselor. But mostly she's just told me what to look for, and because of that, I've recognized that it is as bad as it is.
Quote:Give it time, he'll get dumber.
Quote:Amphetamines were part of the regimine in nazi germany.
Quote:The tendency to think death is cool, and torture, mutilation, etc., in my humble experience, has always gone hand in hand with hard drug use. Not mj, not alcohol, but heroin, coke or meth. Just, sure, people I've known.
Quote:I'll start thinking I'm wrong when the balance of evidence turns against me.
Quote:My sister has over 10,000 such stories.
Quote: The story here is black and white.
Quote:Nice try. Sorry, I meant a religious christian, not a nominal one. Like someone who has posted from the christian perspective before.
Sunday, December 10, 2006 6:46 PM
Monday, December 11, 2006 7:48 AM
Monday, December 11, 2006 8:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Citizen, You're just an ass. There's really nothing else I can say. You oppose everything I post whether you believe it or not. Whatever.
Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:59 PM
Quote:6IXSTRINGJACK: I don't know about you DreamTrove, but I for one welcome our Meth-addled, AK-47 toting, Brave New World overlords.
Quote:RUE: I propose drugs be made legal and supplied by government (in constant amounts) to registered users in plain wrap out of dreary pharmacies. No profit, no glamour, no lure of the unknown. PS But to really mend the drug problem you'd have to change the economy. For every 1% rise in unemployment you get a 2% rise in alcoholism.
Quote:BABYWITHTHEPOWER: It's crap like prozak and ritalin that are forced down our collective throats for diseases I'm not even convinced exist. What makes those drugs exempt from your crusade? Big Pharm endorsing them?
Quote:Why don't you climb down off your cross
Quote: Well, well, look at the backpedalling. You have said repeatedly that a drug addict, or even someone who uses recreationally, was doomed to life as a miserable wretch. Now you're saying there may be exceptions, and are trying to split hairs. Nice one. Busted.
Tuesday, December 12, 2006 5:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: So I take it you voted for Bush.
Tuesday, December 12, 2006 6:07 PM
SERGEANTX
Tuesday, December 12, 2006 6:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: I think I said uninterrupted drug use.
Quote:I gave up reading your post.
Wednesday, December 13, 2006 12:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Who said they were exempt. Clearly you haven't read my comments on the other threads, even recent/current ones.
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Quote:Why don't you climb down off your cross What an assinine remark. You clearly didn't even read my posts on this thread. Not a moral mission knucklehead, a scientific education. Potheads don't fight, of course not, they wouldn't remember what they were fighting about. Plus, they'd lose. Methheads might saw their heads off with kitchen knives and then carry their heads around in blood soaked pillow cases (real story)
Quote:...and that's not an opinion, it's a statistical fact.
Quote:I'm not making this stuff up, or getting it from anti-drug zealots, whoever they are. I just look at the situation on the ground, and calling it as I see it.
Quote:Methheads might saw their heads off with kitchen knives and then carry their heads around in blood soaked pillow cases (real story)
Wednesday, December 13, 2006 5:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Citizen, But Joseph McCarthy *was* a great man. And you *are* an ass. The crackhead nation of the braindead which you so avidly support awaits you.
Tuesday, December 19, 2006 5:29 PM
MARINA
Quote:I support legalization of "soft" (just so we're clear, MJ, maybe Ecstacy, etc., but not heroin, coke, etc.) drugs.
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