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I started this and other threads condemning Trump as someone who destroys everything he touches. I wish I was wrong but I'm not.

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I started this and other threads condemning Trump as someone who destroys everything he touches. I wish I was wrong but I'm not.

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Wish granted.

It turns out you were just a cult member and your rotten brain has been in a coma for the last 15 years.


ETA: God your fucking tags all over the place suck.

So unprofessional and inconsiderate.


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Trump restores gun rights for the mentally ill (seriously)


For reasons that are hard to fathom, included among Biden era gun rules that Donald Trump has rolled back are restrictions on people who have been adjudicated mentally ill, making it easier for them to get access to guns and ammunition

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/trump-restores-gun-rights-for-the
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How stupid is signym? This stupid.

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Trump restores gun rights for the mentally ill (seriously)


For reasons that are hard to fathom, included among Biden era gun rules that Donald Trump has rolled back are restrictions on people who have been adjudicated mentally ill, making it easier for them to get access to guns and ammunition

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/trump-restores-gun-rights-for-the
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How stupid is signym? This stupid.

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Trump restores gun rights for the mentally ill (seriously)


For reasons that are hard to fathom, included among Biden era gun rules that Donald Trump has rolled back are restrictions on people who have been adjudicated mentally ill, making it easier for them to get access to guns and ammunition

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/trump-restores-gun-rights-for-the
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How stupid is signym? This stupid.

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Well, there's a lot that needs destroying. One of Trump's best features is that he's a loose cannon.

PS: I've warned SIX against using words like "nobody", and I'm warning you against using words like "everything". There are, in this real world of ours, exceptions to many "universal" statements.

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Dipping my toes into this ridiculous thread

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Well, there's a lot that needs destroying. One of Trump's best features is that he's a loose cannon.

PS: I've warned SIX against using words like "nobody", and I'm warning you against using words like "everything". There are, in this real world of ours, exceptions to many "universal" statements.

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Oil Hits $100/Barrel. That's crude oil. We have to buy refined oil. Add 25$ to 45$ a barrel to the cost the consumer pays. Thank god Biden re-stocked our oil supplies. Although, Trump is burning through that fast.

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Well, there's a lot that needs destroying. One of Trump's best features is that he's a loose cannon.

PS: I've warned SIX against using words like "nobody", and I'm warning you against using words like "everything". There are, in this real world of ours, exceptions to many "universal" statements.

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“Well, there's a lot that needs destroying. One of Trump's best features is that he's a loose cannon.” Signym

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If you don't respond because your intent was to hit and run, I'll take my responce to you.

Trump is a convicted felon.

You can’t defend what Elon and Trump has done to many good Americans. They didn’t go in and find waste and fraud at the government agencies they savaged. They just started firing people. Many of whom they had to recall because they performed much needed services, i.e. nuclear oversight. Or because the courts deemed their firing to be illegal.

You can’t defend against all the science, much of it done at universities and in mid-stream, that Trump has/is destroying. Cancer research stopped cold. The brain drain for the first time in our history; is scientists are leaving because Trump is shutting down grants. You can't defend children in Africa we used to feed are now starving to death.

Agriculture is going to take a severe hit over the next few years. The damage Trump is doing is so extensive the small minds here can't comprehend how bad it is going to get. I'll post a video by Peter Zeihan.

With Trump the term, “destroys everything” applies. So, show me something he hasn’t destroyed. But be prepared to defend it. And don’t post a book you copied. I also don't believe for one second you have America's best interest at heart, comrade.

Finaly, to keep this short, JFK, Trumps boy, fired everybody who worked at a program that helped children make it through the night. To not die while sleeping. A program he couldn’t name. A program that was named after his aunt. Thats the video below.

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You're as illiterate and incomprehensible as Charlie Day on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, dude.

If you've got something to say, use your Big Boy words.

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38.9%

Wholesale prices for domestic vegetables have skyrocketed by 38.9% compared to a year ago, indicating a significant increase in costs for consumers. This rise in prices is attributed to various factors, including tariffs, weather conditions, and labor shortages. As a result, shoppers may face higher grocery prices, reflecting the overall economic impact of these rising costs.

Axios

Vegetable inflation strikes, with a warning for grocery prices

Vegetable inflation strikes, with a warning for grocery prices
Data: Bureau of Labor Statistics; Chart: Axios Visuals The U.S. economy has a vegetable problem, and it's not just "broccoli refusal" either — wholesale prices for fresh veggies so…

https://www.axios.com/2025/08/14/inflation-vegetables-ppi

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You don’t understand adult language. I’ve been following the experts and posting it here. You’ve responded with stupid childish rhetoric while refusing to acknowledge facts. Even dismissing the idea, one should listen to the experts.

Well, all I’ve been posting about is front and center and only going to get worse. Trump is acting like a dictator; something I predicted. Prices are going up because of his stupid tariffs; something I predicted. He has undermined the rule of law at every turn; something I predicted. He has done more to send America back into the stone age, while creating a huge brain drain no one could have predicted.

These are just a few of the things I said, based on the experts, that were going to happen. You Gilligan, argued none of these things would happen. And answering this post with more denials is an attitude that plays right into the democrats' hands come 2026. And as I’ve said, based on what the experts say, things are shifting towards a routing of republicans. Take another look at the cartoon I posted. This post is a reflection of that. It says all the same things I've said here. You Jack, are a fake.

Too accurate, not funny.

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OK, BACK TO THE DISCUSSION.

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I think reindustrializing is a laudable goal, don't you?
Why don't we hash that out before tariffs, bc if you don't think the goal is achievable or worthwhile then tariffs are, in your view, entirely counterproductive.

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I am not against having more manufacturing. We need it. Look what happened during COVID. I think the South lost the civil war because for the most part, they couldn’t make a canon.

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You just keep playing stupid. I am not debating Tariffs as a standalone entity. Between one country and another. I said, I would point out the destructive aspects of Trumps' different policies. I don't care about what would be nice if it happened. Different hypotheticals you keep suggesting in your posts. Instead, I care about what is actually happening.

If apple were to make their phones here. It would take several years to set up a manufacturing plant first. And then those phones would cost about 3.5 thousand dollars each. Look it up. If the entire manufacturing process was moved to the U.S., some say they would cost 30,000 per phone. Stay in reality please and do what I do, deal in facts. This way you won't come off as ignorant.

First topic, was to be about Trump using tariffs the way he is.

Well, for one thing, it is illegal.

His tariffs are killing our relationships with our allies, and weakening our standing and security globally.

They are killing American businesses. Both large and small. It is a huge tax on them and our citizenry. According to our constitution, a president is not allowed to raise our taxes like this. It takes an act of Congress to do that. Again, look it up.

I told you I would show, using your list, how Trump destroys whatever he touches. Not to debate the difference between the effects of tariffs on different countries. And to continually watch you post about the subject with no regard for its legality, when the constitution clearly states what Trump is doing is not.

Who gives a shit about the effect of tariffs on Switzerland vs. another country. Really, get a grip and stop posting bullshit hypotheticals. Stay on topic. Which is, what I don't like about Trumps' policies. That's what you asked me.

In response you keep lecturing me about tariffs, which makes me laugh. The subject is not the pros and cons of tariffs. Or, how they work. The subject is, Trumps tariff policies and what I don't like about them. Which encompasses, are they legal, and what are they doing to the country; pay attention.

You put all that work into your past and current posts and you aren't even on topic. Which is why I've taken to underlining some words. Yano, make it simpler for you to understand lass.

too funny...

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full of maybes what ifs and rabbit holes. I hope you do not think your response warrants an explanatory response from me; because I don’t.

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You're blowing all kinds of shit about business failures and price increases, and you didn't even bother to see if that was really happening?

IT'S NOT.

See my post, above, with actual... yanno ... FACTS.
So you'll forgive me for not taking you seriously.

There's nothing wrong with tariffs theoretically, and SO FAR they haven't had any negative effects. Only time will tell.

So let's move on from here bc aside from your point that tariffs are illegal (most probably true), you don't have any other arguments.

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Let's try a new approach of presenting you with evidence and fact of how Trumps' tariffs are killing America. Argue with this post. Tell me the charts are incorrect.

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I see you're sourcing zerohedge again. It means your source is shit. Therefore, your post is shit. Lies and bullshit are all it is.

The ACA is always getting slammed by you guys. It added 20 million people to the ranks of the insured. Here’s the point that shows how full of shit you are. The republicans voted more than 50 times to repeal it. Each time they promised to introduce a much better plan. That bullshit started how many years ago? I’ll tell you. It was March of 2010 when the Affordable Care Act was first introduced.

So comrade, where is their beautiful new and better bill? The one they've been promising since 2010? You're so full of shit. And so’s your post. Trump said it again. During his campaign he would first, create a bigger and better plan before he fucked with health care.

Never ever do you call the republicans and Trump out on that. And they've done it more than 50 times.

Oh yeah China. This all happened before when Trump was president. He had to bail out the farmers. And the moron did it again. And you didn't see it coming? Worse yet, this time the soy market is not coming back; it's gone. Trump made a huge mistake, a huge mistake.

Your bullshit agenda is transparent comrade.

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When you make stupid statements like "Trump is destroying EVERYTHING he touches" all anyone has to do is prove one thing NOT destroyed to prove you wrong, silly.

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Made in America’ Crushed—7 Shutdowns Signal Total Industrial Retreat

The U.S. manufacturing sector shrank for the fifth month in a row in July 2025. The Institute for Supply Management (ISM) reported a Purchasing Managers’ Index (PMI) of 48.0, down from 49.0 in June. A reading below 50 signals contraction, meaning production, orders, and employment are declining.

Factory employment dropped to its lowest level in five years. Companies face rising costs linked to tariffs and shifting demand. This contraction is shaking the foundation of America’s industrial economy.

Plant closures ripple far beyond factory walls. Local tax revenue falls when major employers shut down, reducing funds for schools, roads, and municipal services.

Nearby businesses such as restaurants, shops, and suppliers lose customers and contracts. Entire towns can struggle to stay afloat when anchor manufacturers disappear. This isn’t just an economic story; it’s a human story affecting communities across the country.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/made-in-america-crushed-7-shut
downs-signal-total-industrial-retreat/ar-AA1NG2I1?ocid=msedgntp&pc=EDBBAN&cvid=68ddddacfa15435b99bb79aef62a9079&ei=14


You've said that before. I'm still waiting for you to prove me wrong. I post and post and always bring the facts. And the thing is, you act as though I'm making the shit up. You're a complete moron. Here is more evidence Trumps tariffs are destroying companies across America. Common comrade moron, show me I'm wrong.

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The Trump Tariffs: A Small Business Crisis

The Trump Tariffs take the United States back nearly 100 years

https://www.sbc.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/a/7/a760a470-5f3b-40ca-
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MoneyWatch
The U.S. is losing thousands of manufacturing jobs, analysis finds

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jobs-manufacturing-trump-tariffs-economy/

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I spent way too much time going to MSM and other sources to answer your pretty pointless objection. IN DETAIL. WITH FACTS about the ACA in THIS budget impasse.

Since you didn't bother to respond, I'm not wasting any more time on your endless shell games.

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You've posted this on the 2nd. After, after, I responded to your posts with 5 or 6 of my own. And if I don't respond with a direct quote, it's because I have no intention of reposting tons of your bullshit with each and every comment. Which is just another form of a rabbit hole. too funny...

Ok, six points about the posts you speak of. Trust me, there are more but I'll keep it simple for you.

Point 1; I respond when I get to it. And because I source most of what I post, I do not understand your MSNBC shit. What I posted about the ACA being under attack, you should know to be factual without being sourced. It’s its history, and what we’ve witnessed since its inception. I reminded you, the republicans voted to repeal it more than 50 times. I reminded you, the republicans vowed to replace it with something better each time, they didn't. I reminded you, Trump vowed to again in his latest campaign; he hasn't. I've asked you why you never mention that? Why you never have held them accountable?

Now, why would you try and source that with MSNBC? Everything else I’ve sourced. If you were honest, you'd admit you can't source anything that disputes what I've posted. And by your own admission in your quoted post here, you sure tried.

Point 2; Much of what you post are subjective rants that are unreadable; boring. And they go on forever. You sabotage the conversation when you do this. Your posts have zero fluidity. Like mine do, and in this case, does.

Point 3; You take a sentence, an incomplete perspective of what someone posts, and address that. You strip away the reasoning for the thought before you respond. This makes your responses deceptive. As a recipient of said posts, I know what you are doing right off. There is no reason for me to do anything but see what can be salvaged from your intended point; if anything, usually not. Hense, your frustration with me.

Point 4, Way too much of your perspective comes directly from Putin's playbook, or in this case the republicans. I already know it. Like the democrats wanting to give health insurance to illegals. Thats all you hear from them, nothing else. Google it and you’ll see it is illegal; simple, case closed. Therefore, it’s stupid, dishonest and a waste of my time reading any of that. So I did not.

Point 5; I’ve posted about the consequences of Trumps tariffs with evidence. You post about the thirties, or some other stupid happenings from long ago. You wasted tons of time trying to teach me about tariffs as if I didn’t know anything about them. Why, because you can’t make a case for them working as intended. So instead, you rant about what could be, not what is. We've been through this. Your deflections didn't work. You've had no success getting me to go down any of your bullshit rabbit holes. Another of your deflections. Again, a waste of my time.

Point 6; No response to my other posts at all; zero. There are five, maybe six back to back that are short, to the point, and unarguable that pertain to your responses. Which explains this post of yours. You saw them and are running away. I don’t blame you. I've told you countless times. I do not post from an ideology. I deal in facts, and no one can argue against facts.

Go home, run, back to your garden thread lass. And take Gilligan with you. He got out again.

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