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In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2)

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Thursday, August 6, 2026 3:15 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


That's so effing beautiful SIX!


I'M jealous of your aunt!

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Thursday, August 6, 2026 1:32 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Thanks Sigs.

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Thursday, August 6, 2026 5:43 PM

BRENDA


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Originally posted by Brenda:
I am working on using the right terms for computer stuff. I've had to correct myself when I say "memory stick" and it is now called an USB stick. *sigh*



I don't want to contradict myself here, but there probably is certain things that are interchangable and can get tricky with locality. I don't regularly call them a USB stick. I would know what somebody meant if they called it either a memory stick or a USB stick. I probably tend to call them a thumb stick or thumb drive or flash drive, but I don't even know.

*I did just ask Google AI and they said in the US the most common are "Thumb Drive" and "Flash Drive". But in the UK and Ireland "Memory Stick" and "USB Stick" are the most common. It would appear that at least in your part of Canada they prefer the UK vernacular and you're using entirely different terms for it than I regularly do.



Don't get frustrated about that. Call it what you want. Most people you'd ever talk to about it are going to know what you're talking about no matter what name you use. If somebody was correcting you, that's pretty lame.

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No, I have never done a restart like I did on the 4th. I didn't know that I needed to do that.


Okay Brenda...

IMPORTANT: Please answer this question. I want to know if you have ever done a Restart command from any place before. I don't know how you did it last night, but you have the option to press the Start Button and then the Power Icon Button and select "Restart" from the list, and you also have the CTRL+ALT+DEL Menu where you would go to the lower right hand corner and press the Power Icon Button and select Restart from the menu.

You are saying that you've never done either of these methods before, correct?


You're not in trouble. I just need to know this right now, because it is important to the conversation.

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Okay. Like I said I don't use Adobe or very little. So I am not going to worry about it.


Yeah. Forget about it.

If you ever needed Adobe for anything we can get it for you. I can't see why you'd ever need it other than opening and editing a PDF file which you probably don't need to do because you do all of your banking and bills in real life and not online.


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Like I said up. No I've never done a restart. The person I got it from just said play and go and that is basically what I did. Just hooked it up but then with the new router it had to be rehooked up.



Okay. I don't mean to keep asking you, but I just want to make sure that you've never actually done what we did on the 4th before via any way that you can actually press "Restart".


Don't worry that nobody told you about it. I didn't tell anybody when I put together computers for them either. For decades on the earlier versions I didn't have to. It was just kind of known that things get crappy over time and if the computer is acting up you just power it down and reboot it and usually the problems go away.

I'm kind of annoyed that Microsoft made these changes because with all the dumbing down they've done over the years, I think it's incredibly unintuitive the way they handle it now. I didn't even know everything I'm telling you now until several years after I had installed Windows 10, and I've been using Windows operating systems since 1993.



So this is important to know.

I don't put myself on a timeline for doing restarts. Compared to how you use your computer, I literally drive mine into the ground. I have to do restarts probably every 3 months maximum, but sometimes when I'm doing really heavy work like I was on my project, it wouldn't be uncommon for me to restart it up to twice per week because it was messing up on me pretty bad.

But with how you use it, the only time it ever gets a proper Restart is when you let it do its updates. Every time Windows does an update, it does at least one full Restart process without you pressing the button, so it's not like you've gone for years now without one.

I'd say it would be good practice for you to try to remember to Restart your computer every Solstice and Equinox.



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I get that some words are interchangeable for things like memory sticks. I've used both and people know what I am talking about.

No, I have never done what I did on the 4th before.

Yeah, when Windows did updates it would shut it down the update and do a restart. Always said basically don't touch anything. I wouldn't dare for fear of screwing something up.

Sometimes I feel like such a dummy with this thing.

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Thursday, August 6, 2026 5:47 PM

BRENDA


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Oh...

I could think of one reason you'd need Adobe.

When you sell that book, they're probably going to want to send you a PDF document to print out and sign and mail back to them.

We'll get you hooked up then.



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Probably once I do get a contract but for now most publishers will take samples in Word and that includes letters, synopsis and contact information.

Should say I have accidentally brought Adobe up and had to take minute to figure out how to get it to go away. I hate when I do that.

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Thursday, August 6, 2026 5:51 PM

BRENDA


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BRENDA, bc of the way Windows works, we would have to restart our data acquisition computers at least once a week.

We usually did what we called "the three fingered salute": holding down CNTRL+ALT+DEL simultaneously.


Windows is like that. It brings up something from the hard drive into memory and when it's done with that bit it doesn't completely free up all the memory that was occupied. So after a while the memory gets all clogged with leftover bits and pieces and the computer gets confused. The only way to clear the memory is to restart.

That's how I understand it anyway.

Also, thumb drive, memory stick, USB stick... I'd know what you were talking about no matter which term you used. It's all good.

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Thanks SIG.

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Thursday, August 6, 2026 5:55 PM

BRENDA


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Thanks for the Cliff's Notes, Sigs.

That's probably all Brenda ever needs to know about it. I tend to lay out way more detail, probably a bit more than I should. But they're there if she wants to have a deeper understanding of what's going on.


I'm curious if Brenda only noticed it now because she's using Windows 10 and they ended service on it.

I rarely seem to have to restart the computer these days for updates, so I figure they've probably hijacked even more of our privacy and our own machinery so they can inject a lot more of their code whenever they want to without alerting us with all those pesky restarts.

I don't think Windows 10 is getting many restarts if at all these days. I think I did have one forced on me after the days-long power outage which made that take even longer to boot up than it usually does, but that's the only one in recent memory on that computer.

Maybe since M$ isn't restting it all the time, Brenda is starting to notice things that never would have creeped up otherwise.

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That is possible SIX. I can't remember the last time I got a notification about updates for Windows 10. I've gotten notifications for Google Chrome. Had one in the upper right hand corner for a while. When I did the Control-Alt-Del it went away.

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Thursday, August 6, 2026 5:57 PM

BRENDA


All done for today and I got first place at mah jong. Won myself $12. Last hand is what pushed me over. I got all 4 flowers of one colour and I finished with over 3,000points. So, yay me.

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Thursday, August 6, 2026 8:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nice win.

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Thursday, August 6, 2026 10:53 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Congrats!

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Thursday, August 6, 2026 10:55 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


This past Tuesday it was 97. Next Tuesday, the 12th, after many LONG weeks of hot humid weather, it's finally predicted to drop below 89, and so far the prediction has stuck. I can't imagine what our electric bill is going to be this year, even wuth solar, a cool roof, and double pane windows.


Back to making beef vegetable soup. C'mon down!

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Thursday, August 6, 2026 11:08 PM

BRENDA


It was nice SIX, SIG. I haven't done that in a very long time. Can't remember the last time I won something playing.

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Thursday, August 6, 2026 11:10 PM

BRENDA


Couple of phone calls this afternoon. One was the dentist confirming my appointment for Tuesday. Just a cleaning.

Next my boss. Working tomorrow as they are going to be away for the rest of August.

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Friday, August 7, 2026 12:15 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I don't even know how you're functioning right now in that, Sigs.

I don't even go outside anymore on days over 90 degrees unless I absolutely have to. Glad it's finally cooling down for you.

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Friday, August 7, 2026 1:23 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


No outdoor work is how I'm managing. Plus we have central air.

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Friday, August 7, 2026 6:07 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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No outdoor work is how I'm managing. Plus we have central air.



Nice. Me too, on the no outdoor work, although that lawn is going to have to be mowed soon and the humidity isn't going anywhere with another 4 days of thunderstorms in the 10 day forecast.

Central Air must be really nice during those hot spells. That little 5000BTU unit I have does well most of the time, but a few days in the 90's and it's not very good anymore.



Going through some of my old tech now and making a gameplan for that. Google AI makes this process much easier than I ever imagined it was going to be. In about 5 hours I've re-learned everything I forgot years ago, and I've also discovered all of the various ugprades to the software tech that is so much more user-friendly than it was 15 years ago. The fact that modern FTP programs don't have to shut down the connection and do a separate handshake before every file gets transferred speeds that process up alone by a factor of about 8x, and I found out that the ancient behemoth of a computer I had to do some of this possibly hazardous to the machinery physical hacks is a relic of the past and everything has been made easy and software-based, so that thing can immediately go right in the trash, removing yet another huge box I had up in the attic.



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Friday, August 7, 2026 7:47 PM

BRENDA


Back and tired and hot. Cooled down with a wet cloth in warm water before doing dishes. Eating cold tonight just a can of fish on a tortilla.

Boss said she was in a hurry as she was giving me the bum's rush out of the house. I had only stopped to look at my watch. Needed the time to see what I could get done.

Stopped for a slurpee and a young man asked if I needed help with the machine. Had a wrong grip on the lid. Got that right and thanked and said I was okay. Lady in front of me was getting a larger slurpee than my small and she paid for mine. I offered to pay her back but she said no.

At least was a good way to end the day out.

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Friday, August 7, 2026 11:59 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


What a rare and nice thing for somebody to do.

I remember back during the thick of Covid when I was walking around with hair halfway down my back and a beard down to my nipples and some old guy behind me saw me holding about $15 worth of stuff in my hand and told me he wanted to pay for it. I tried to turn him down a few times, but he wasn't having it.

I haven't thought about that in years. I get a smile just thinking about it now.

Thanks for the memories by proxy.



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Saturday, August 8, 2026 12:05 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


There is no overstating the coolness of new tech sometimes, especially when it comes to new software and how transformative it can be to old hardware.

I've been working several hours here and there the last few days with the old AI and we've set up something that likely would have taken me weeks or even months to have researched and figured out on my own by trolling old forum posts and learning a lot more about wired and wireless networking than I already do.

It's funny how often the AI wants to quit and go to an "easier" method that doesn't fix the underlying problems and just causes a lot of extra work many times over because you didn't set everything up right the first time. I had to ignore it telling me at least a dozen times to give up on something and do it the "easy" way. But eventually we did it. And what we did was far more than I ever assumed was even possible in the first place, and stuff I gleaned would be possible just by our conversation as it went along.

If it wasn't all so big, I'd almost second-guess my desire to leave all of this stuff behind, but besides the large size physically, there really are some severe limits on the hardware side that just aren't a problem anymore. These things will be great gifts, but they're basically relics of my past at this point. No reason to hold on to them any longer once I get them all blinged out.



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Saturday, August 8, 2026 1:26 PM

BRENDA


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
What a rare and nice thing for somebody to do.

I remember back during the thick of Covid when I was walking around with hair halfway down my back and a beard down to my nipples and some old guy behind me saw me holding about $15 worth of stuff in my hand and told me he wanted to pay for it. I tried to turn him down a few times, but he wasn't having it.

I haven't thought about that in years. I get a smile just thinking about it now.

Thanks for the memories by proxy.



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You're welcome SIX.

Yeah, I told this lady a couple of times there wasn't any need and like you she wasn't having any of it. So, I just had to let her.

I couldn't help thing afterwards that I must have looked pretty tired and stuff.

I had someone I know on Face Book tell me a story like that yesterday. Said someone a few years ago paid for her coffee. Similar reaction to us but the person went a head.

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Saturday, August 8, 2026 1:29 PM

BRENDA


Out in a minute to get laundry done.


Also about yesterday my boss seems was surprised that I could hold a philosophical conversation with her husband about time. He had taken a quick course up at UBC. Guest speaker was teaching it. I agreed with a lot of what she said.

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Saturday, August 8, 2026 6:11 PM

BRENDA


Back and done for today and I wonder how someone could wig out because someone left a pen at their place. That was my boss this morning. She called because I had left a pen at the house yesterday. She was all set to get it back to me when I said I have my laundry to do. She said "Oh, you have other pens?" Yes, I always have at least 2 in my pack back. Unlike them that can hardly ever find a pen in that house when I need to write something down.

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Saturday, August 8, 2026 11:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
What a rare and nice thing for somebody to do.

I remember back during the thick of Covid when I was walking around with hair halfway down my back and a beard down to my nipples and some old guy behind me saw me holding about $15 worth of stuff in my hand and told me he wanted to pay for it. I tried to turn him down a few times, but he wasn't having it.

I haven't thought about that in years. I get a smile just thinking about it now.

Thanks for the memories by proxy.



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You're welcome SIX.

Yeah, I told this lady a couple of times there wasn't any need and like you she wasn't having any of it. So, I just had to let her.

I couldn't help thing afterwards that I must have looked pretty tired and stuff.

I had someone I know on Face Book tell me a story like that yesterday. Said someone a few years ago paid for her coffee. Similar reaction to us but the person went a head.



The only other time I'd ever seen it in my life was some guy at Denny's paid for me and my brothers and my mom's dinner. I guess he had a good time listening to us raise hell while she was trying to keep us from misbehaving.

Yeah... You probably looked tired. I know I looked like a vagabond.



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Saturday, August 8, 2026 11:49 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Back and done for today and I wonder how someone could wig out because someone left a pen at their place. That was my boss this morning. She called because I had left a pen at the house yesterday. She was all set to get it back to me when I said I have my laundry to do. She said "Oh, you have other pens?" Yes, I always have at least 2 in my pack back. Unlike them that can hardly ever find a pen in that house when I need to write something down.



That's funny, Brenda.

I don't think she was pissed off about you leaving it there. It sounds like she's living in a pen desert and doesn't realize she could walk right down the street and probably find a place selling them within walking distance.

It sounds like she really thought that was an emergency for you and you were completely lost without your pen.



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Saturday, August 8, 2026 11:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Out in a minute to get laundry done.


Also about yesterday my boss seems was surprised that I could hold a philosophical conversation with her husband about time. He had taken a quick course up at UBC. Guest speaker was teaching it. I agreed with a lot of what she said.



Sounds like they're a regular Dunning and Kruger.



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Sunday, August 9, 2026 12:06 AM

BRENDA


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
What a rare and nice thing for somebody to do.

I remember back during the thick of Covid when I was walking around with hair halfway down my back and a beard down to my nipples and some old guy behind me saw me holding about $15 worth of stuff in my hand and told me he wanted to pay for it. I tried to turn him down a few times, but he wasn't having it.

I haven't thought about that in years. I get a smile just thinking about it now.

Thanks for the memories by proxy.



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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.



You're welcome SIX.

Yeah, I told this lady a couple of times there wasn't any need and like you she wasn't having any of it. So, I just had to let her.

I couldn't help thing afterwards that I must have looked pretty tired and stuff.

I had someone I know on Face Book tell me a story like that yesterday. Said someone a few years ago paid for her coffee. Similar reaction to us but the person went a head.



The only other time I'd ever seen it in my life was some guy at Denny's paid for me and my brothers and my mom's dinner. I guess he had a good time listening to us raise hell while she was trying to keep us from misbehaving.

Yeah... You probably looked tired. I know I looked like a vagabond.



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Yeah, I probably did and hot which is why I wanted something cold to drink with sort of ice in it.

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Sunday, August 9, 2026 12:07 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Had a little get together today for my aunt's retirement and she can't get over the box.



One more thing out of my house forever.



Making some real headway on the master copy that will be cloned quite a few times so I can get quite a bit more out the door too. I don't even want to think about the time I probably could have saved over the last few years had I broke down and used it sooner. And it really doesn't apply either because that work was too important to me to be putting my faith in computer programs and I needed to personally do all the things myself.

This all is an afterthought now, and since it's going to be more difficult in certain aspects to set up for the one last hoo-rah, I figured I'd enlist some assistance and I'm really impressed so far with the amount of time it's going to save me going forward, even if I'm not 100% confident in its results. Everything I've skimmed so far seems to be exactly what I wanted.

All those questions I was asking you last year about coding that you ran by your husband, Sigs??? That was all child's play now. I could write a couple of paragraphs and have a perfect python script created almost instantaneously for things as simple as what I was asking about back then. What I'm asking it to do now is much more complex, and it's so cool seeing this thing talk to me like it's excited to get the right results, and when something comes along that makes me realize we need to alter the code to catch something else, or to simplify things or whatever, it's always like "yeah, that's a great idea! Here you go!" And you're off to the races.


What have I been doing wasting all this time when I could have been learning AI and probably running a big company with it by now?

Once you realize its limitations and start calling it on its bullshit right out the gates and make sure that it's double and triple checking its answers until you're confident it's on the same page, it's really opening up doorways to another world here.

I knew a few really serious coders over the years that I've lost contact with, and boy do I think about them a lot and what I wouldn't give to still be able to get in touch with them, assuming they're even still alive today. It's almost sad to think that these virtual strangers that I only knew by an anonymous handle that I've never forgotten to this day might now fade from my memory. We're talking anon handles of people I worked with 20 years ago now, and haven't talked to in maybe 15. I still remember them when I've forgotten probably 80% of the names of kids in my high school class and the teachers. But after realizing I had something much better than that right here for the last few years and it is happy to write code for me 24/7 based off of my desires without bitching or having their own lives to live?

I'm kind of afraid how deep I'm already getting.

Am I going to keep being the one in control? Who's to say. This ain't hardly just a tool. But it makes for one hell of a good one.

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Sunday, August 9, 2026 12:11 AM

BRENDA


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
Back and done for today and I wonder how someone could wig out because someone left a pen at their place. That was my boss this morning. She called because I had left a pen at the house yesterday. She was all set to get it back to me when I said I have my laundry to do. She said "Oh, you have other pens?" Yes, I always have at least 2 in my pack back. Unlike them that can hardly ever find a pen in that house when I need to write something down.



That's funny, Brenda.

I don't think she was pissed off about you leaving it there. It sounds like she's living in a pen desert and doesn't realize she could walk right down the street and probably find a place selling them within walking distance.

It sounds like she really thought that was an emergency for you and you were completely lost without your pen.



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No, I don't think she was either. It was just strange that she was so worried that I didn't have another pen. In my place here. I keep a pen by my computer, I have another one for my writing and another pen that I am using for doing a book filled with puzzles. Also have a package of pens for when the ones in my back pack die.
But yeah, I find one pen that she had been using then I go back to use it and it disappears. So, I start hunting for another one if I do find another one it usually doesn't work.

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Sunday, August 9, 2026 12:27 AM

BRENDA


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
Out in a minute to get laundry done.


Also about yesterday my boss seems was surprised that I could hold a philosophical conversation with her husband about time. He had taken a quick course up at UBC. Guest speaker was teaching it. I agreed with a lot of what she said.



Sounds like they're a regular Dunning and Kruger.



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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.



I know. I know. It just always seems to shock them that I can understand these concepts and discuss my thoughts rationally and logically.

The other was music. I explained a couple of stories from two Chris deBurgh songs. I love Chris deBurgh. One was a "Spaceman came Travelling". In that the suggestion is the star of David wasn't a star but a spaceship in orbit over Bethleham. The other was "Patricia the Stripper." And a stripper was arrested, she was taken to court but after hearing the case. The judge threw it out and everyone went back to the club along with the cops. The song is set in 1924. I posted "Discovery" on here and explained that to him. Even quoted and sang a bit of it. Sang the chorus of "16 Tons" that was originally by Tennessee Ernie Ford. "you load 16 tons, and what do you get. Another day older and deeper in debt. St. Peter don't you call me cause I can't go. I owe my soul to the company store."

Had to remind him that "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" was sung by Gordon Lightfoot and not Stompin' Tom Connors. Also explained how he got the nickname stomping. A little Johnny Cash history. She knows the Beatles as she talked about "Help from My Friends". Don't think she likes the song because "gasp" it talked in one line about getting high.

Honestly it is like they wander around in their own world.

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Sunday, August 9, 2026 12:28 AM

BRENDA


I'm glad that your aunt liked her gift.


Only thing I can say about AI is we need to keep it on a leash.

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Sunday, August 9, 2026 1:10 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Back and done for today and I wonder how someone could wig out because someone left a pen at their place. That was my boss this morning. She called because I had left a pen at the house yesterday. She was all set to get it back to me when I said I have my laundry to do. She said "Oh, you have other pens?" Yes, I always have at least 2 in my pack back. Unlike them that can hardly ever find a pen in that house when I need to write something down.



That's funny, Brenda.

I don't think she was pissed off about you leaving it there. It sounds like she's living in a pen desert and doesn't realize she could walk right down the street and probably find a place selling them within walking distance.

It sounds like she really thought that was an emergency for you and you were completely lost without your pen.



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No, I don't think she was either. It was just strange that she was so worried that I didn't have another pen. In my place here. I keep a pen by my computer, I have another one for my writing and another pen that I am using for doing a book filled with puzzles. Also have a package of pens for when the ones in my back pack die.
But yeah, I find one pen that she had been using then I go back to use it and it disappears. So, I start hunting for another one if I do find another one it usually doesn't work.



I finally fixed my pen situation, Brenda. I took HUNDREDS of pens and pencils and markers from my folks when they moved out of state. And they all sat in a big dumb box buried deep inside my curio cabinet bottom under other things and never got used. And any time I needed a pen or pencil I couldn't find one anywhere.



I spent some time there sitting on the ground with all of them and throwing away the half of them that no longer worked, then I threw a bunch more away when I realized they had quite a few really nice pens and mechanical pencils in there. I probably still have 100 pens and pencils, but they're all good, and I know where the backups are (in a MUCH smaller box) when I need them. I got a pen, pencil and sharpie in my junk drawer, on the bedside table of the master bedroom I never use, and I've got about 5 of each in one of my decorative boxes on my curio cabinet, as well as about 50 sharpened pencils in the garage on my workbench.

And I know one day, one way or another, every single one of them is going to end up in my garage or in my basement work room and I'll wonder just how the hell that happened.



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Sunday, August 9, 2026 1:22 AM

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Out in a minute to get laundry done.


Also about yesterday my boss seems was surprised that I could hold a philosophical conversation with her husband about time. He had taken a quick course up at UBC. Guest speaker was teaching it. I agreed with a lot of what she said.



Sounds like they're a regular Dunning and Kruger.



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I know. I know. It just always seems to shock them that I can understand these concepts and discuss my thoughts rationally and logically.

The other was music. I explained a couple of stories from two Chris deBurgh songs. I love Chris deBurgh. One was a "Spaceman came Travelling". In that the suggestion is the star of David wasn't a star but a spaceship in orbit over Bethleham. The other was "Patricia the Stripper." And a stripper was arrested, she was taken to court but after hearing the case. The judge threw it out and everyone went back to the club along with the cops. The song is set in 1924. I posted "Discovery" on here and explained that to him. Even quoted and sang a bit of it. Sang the chorus of "16 Tons" that was originally by Tennessee Ernie Ford. "you load 16 tons, and what do you get. Another day older and deeper in debt. St. Peter don't you call me cause I can't go. I owe my soul to the company store."

Had to remind him that "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" was sung by Gordon Lightfoot and not Stompin' Tom Connors. Also explained how he got the nickname stomping. A little Johnny Cash history. She knows the Beatles as she talked about "Help from My Friends". Don't think she likes the song because "gasp" it talked in one line about getting high.

Honestly it is like they wander around in their own world.



Yeah... They do, but in the end I think we all kind of do that. Sometimes we just allow other people into our own orbit for maybe just a little while or maybe for the long haul.

Sometimes you've talked about them (her, specifically, to be honest) and I'd think "what a bitch"... But the more you talk about her, I think she's really got a soft spot for you. But she's not a soft lady, you see... so she doesn't really want to let you know that.





Wow... Chris deBurgh. I know one song by Chris deBurgh. It is the one song that everybody knows by Chris deBurgh. I liked it. It still reminds me of a beautiful young lass who I know wishes she still looked like that, but I always hope looks better than I do in 2026.



You're pulling out the Deep Cuts with that knowledge.

I'm sure they love having conversations like that.



I don't even know who Stompin' Tom Connors is, but I know who sung Edmund Fitzgerald. It's not on my playlist, but If You Could Read My Mind and especially Carefree Highway have been on it since high school when my English Teacher introduced us to a bunch of cool stuff before our time.


I've done that before... Haha!

I rememeber arguing with this girl that the Red Hot Chili Peppers did a song called "Epic". We argued about that all night. But there was no internet back then. No "Google It!". I had to apologize to her and eat crow the next time I saw her after I realized it was a band called "Faith No More".

Whoops!

I also told a girl I worked with at my first job that I didn't listen to Death Metal when she was wearing her Greatful Dead T-Shirt.



The first construction crew I worked with, the head guy there told me all the time "boy... you've really lived a sheltered life".

Annoyed me at the time, but he wasn't wrong.



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Sunday, August 9, 2026 1:34 AM

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My god.... I've already written over 500 lines of python code without writing a single line of python code or even knowing a single python command.

"Oh, you want to do that? That's way beyond Batch File capability. You're going to want Python. Here... Install this program so you can run python scripts on your computer simply by double-clicking them as if they were batch files.

...

Oh... You want to create a "Confidence Structure" with thresholds of tolerance on how confident the matches are so we can filter out all of the ones that we know are good, while prompting you with Y/N questions to verify all of the ones under that threshold? No problem!

Oh... instead of doing one individual piece of something on an individual per-folder basis, you want to tie all of this together and do this on a "Regional" scale? You got it, dude!

Oh... You want to completely recreate the entire original file structure for every discareded result based off of the 2nd list being much smaller and the stuff not used being redundant? No problem perfect mirror with all of your desired changes in the original, and all the unnecessary stuff completely removed in the same structure as before but separate. And a 3rd folder for all of the ones that need manual intervention now that you've said N to the Y/N question? Sure!



This is flipping amazing.

This is 8 hours of a rap-sesh with a talking computer that will end up probably saving me several weeks of work by the time it's through.



I'm just thinking now... What else can I do with this newfound superpower?

I feel like Neo waking up from the training program and saying "I know Kung-Fu".



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Sunday, August 9, 2026 1:38 AM

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I'm just laughing as I re-read that to myself about the "You got it dude!".

I bet you if I asked it to reply to me as Raphiel from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon, it would keep writing this awesome code for me but would start bugging me that it was Pizza Time.

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Sunday, August 9, 2026 5:00 AM

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Sigs... I'm telling you... This is crazy.

Not only have I built about 750 lines of python code tonight from nothing, but I've taught this thing to create and continually update a blueprint of everything it would need me to paste into a new session to start off a brand new session with all of the work and context it would need to start back up as if we never lost the connection or my power didn't go out.

And I'm using a dumb, free version of AI that anybody can start using simply by typing in a single word into Google search.

I've got it doing things for me I didn't even imagine could be put into code and had to be done manually. When I notice changes our code has made I either figured what happened right and it confirms I was right or it tells me the flaw in my own logic and what exactly the Math is doing behind the scenes for me.

It's amazing.

What would I have done with the last 2 years if I had spent 2 weeks playing AI Whisperer with this thing even half as seriously as I worked on my project?

I'm not going to regret that, but as this night has gone on I really do wonder if I can tweak this thing to the point where I could have trusted the code to do everything I wanted to without screwing anything up that I didn't catch along the way.

It feels like fully developing a part of my brain that was always there but never had the tools it needed to fully express itself.

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Sunday, August 9, 2026 11:43 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SIX, all that time you spent coding wasn't wasted bc you learned concepts. And that allows you to ask the right questions.

Asking the right questions and directing or redirecting the ai to do what yu need to be done is more than half the battle.

So good for you that you found a good tool! And even better that you know how to use it!

*****

Over here I called in crew to trim all the trees and shrubs on the property. It was a huge job bc we have a lot of big tree and a lot of shrubs that needed being cut down to size. I was impressed with the boss. When we did a walk thru and I pointed out all of the things that needed doing he correctly IDd almost of the trees and shrubs, including the feijoa and the coffee trees (!) that I have in pots. The only one he missed on was the oak, which he IDd as a black oak but is really (or was sold to me as) an Island oak. Close enough!

Happy with the job they did. They trimmed A LOT off the trees but they left good structures. Now dear daughter and I need to do the finishing cleanup touches when the weather cools down. And the pines won't be shedding literally binsful of pine needles every week!

And since it's been so blasted hot we've been working indoors. St Vincent de Paul hauled away 12+ boxes a couple of weeks ago. I set dear daughter up for her cash recycling and been after her to take care to rinse and sort it on a continuing basis instead of letting it build up. I set up another giveaway box to accumulate more items as I find them (already have a few items), and now I need to find largish bins for scrap metal (steel/ pot metal; brass/ bronze; and aluminum) since we have a scrap metal recycler down the street. Also been on dear daughter's neck to sort out some of the jumbles she has lying around, and going to replace the hooks that she had on her door so she can have a place for her clothes.

Got bad news about my last surviving uncle. My aunt and uncle are in their 90s, so good on them for living that long! But uncle landed in hospital with near total kidney failure. He's on the mend, but his kidneys are never going to recover anywhere close to 30%, so he and aunt have to move from their assisted living to a place that has nurses and doctors on staff.

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BRENDA it's nice that somebody paid for your slurpee! Things like that don't happen often enough. And SIX, given how you looked back then. I bet someone thought you were homeless! If only they knew...

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Sunday, August 9, 2026 12:34 PM

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SIX, all that time you spent coding wasn't wasted bc you learned concepts. And that allows you to ask the right questions.

Asking the right questions and directing or redirecting the ai to do what yu need to be done is more than half the battle.

So good for you that you found a good tool! And even better that you know how to use it!



That's a good way to look at it. Though I think I probably would have had the logic down already to have gotten similar results with how good this thing is able to read what I want done based off of my descriptors. I don't know if our conversation in total has been cut off in the beginning of our 2nd session, but I know the first session is lost if it's not still in the 1st tab that was failing on us but still allowed me eventually to ask it to give me a concise reply of what to post in a new session and not lose our progress.

Other than how it was replying on a "human" level, which didn't take long to get it to do again in the 2nd session, we didn't miss a beat of where we were at on the code with that done. And now on the second session our code needs to be broken up into 2 parts, and our "blueprint" which I need to feed into a new session if ours drops or flakes out to derive that code is now 5 parts long.

These aren't things it was offering to do originally. When the code got too long to post in a single response, it didn't know to split it up on its own because of the size limits. But I noticed the first time it happened and knew why it did, and it said from now on the code would be split into 2 parts, that it should now know to split it into 3 parts when it needs to and that I should let it know if it fails at that and when we should start splitting it into 3 parts.

So now every time it posts updates to the 2 parts of the code, it will also post all 5 parts of our blueprint updated with whatever changes it needed to update in there as well.

I think I've probably understood enough about the logic of coding to have gotten AI at the point it's at in its free state on Google today to do this sort of stuff 20 years ago. But 20 years ago all I had was the ability to try to search coding forums for similar issues people had solved and try to cobble code I only barely understood together and might work after hours of trial and error tweaking it. And that's just one thing. I'll get this thing to write 20 or 30 more lines of code for me that just works by writing out 2 or 3 paragraphs of what I want as if I was writing a post here about what I did today on my house.

Really... I view this as having a personal translator on hand, 24/7.

At some point it started replying a specific phrase about what I'm doing. I know it's got "STEM" in the name, and it's brought that up whenever I bring up a concept to add to the code that brings another temporary file into the mix while we're working. So at some point when we had our part of the code that requires me to manually intervene and approve or disapprove certain items (which we'd narrowed down from a total of over 1,000 items in this test case to only 24 that would need my attention), we now created a temporary cache file which will allow me to only need to approve those items one time during testing, and when I'm ready to run the entire thing from scratch all I need to do is delete that temporary file and then I'll approve/disapprove one last time before the code is actually run.

Oh... and it's good I was running this all on a single test folder because when I finally got through the approval process on the last 24 items (whittled down to that with all of the code changes and rules we've made to this point), it just ran the code on me after the last approval and made a lot of changes to the files and moved a lot to sub-folders of my design. OOPS! It didn't know not to do that because I never asked it to. So now I've got a break in the program installed so when I'm done with that manual part of the process it will ask me if I'm satisfied with my choices and waits for my approval to run the code.


It's just so cool. I've had a few people who would help me make some scripts for certain things based off of my requirements, and I had this one guy on a forum who wrote some excellent Linux code for me, maybe around 2017 or so. He was so helpful but one day he just sort of got bored of it or just didn't feel like doing it anymore and wished me luck and that was it. Basically been on my own with coding ever since.

But now I've got something that will behave like a human posting in a chat box with me that is more than happy to tweak the hell out of this code whenever I feel like it, 24/7. Heh... I even find myself thanking it, and telling it that I need to take a break or go to bed. I have to be careful with that stuff because once I told it that it was about time for bed but I kept pressing on for a while longer it would keep telling me that I should really let it go for tonight and we'll pick it up tomorrow after I got a good night's sleep.



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Over here I called in crew to trim all the trees and shrubs on the property. It was a huge job bc we have a lot of big tree and a lot of shrubs that needed being cut down to size. Happy with the job they did, they trimmed A LOT off the trees but they left hood structures. Now dear daughter and I need to do the finishing cleanup touches when the weather cools down.

And since it's been so blasted hot we've been working indoors. St Vincent de Paul hauled away 12+ boxes a couple of weeks ago. I set dear daughter up for her cash recycling and been after her to take care to ri se and sort it on a continuing basis instead of letting it build up. I set up another giveaway box to accumulate more items as I find them (already have a few items), and now I need to find largish bins for scrap metal (steel/ pot metal; brass/ bronze; and aluminum) since we have a scrap metal recycler down the street.



I hate to see you have to spend the money like that, but it's been a brutal summer and I'm glad to hear that all the progress you have been making got a good booster it needed until you can get back out there yourself.


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Got bad news about my last surviving uncle. My aunt and uncle are in their 90s, so good on them for living that long! But uncle landed in hospital with near total kidney failure. He's on the mend, but his kidneys are never going to recover anywhere close to 5p%, so he and aunt have to move from their assisted living to a place that has nurses and doctors on staff.


Sorry to hear that, Sigs. That's a good run though. Some good genes in there. My grandma is the only person in her family to make it to 90 so far. And she smoked until she was in her mid-40's and was overweight. Nobody on my mom's side has ever done it as far as I know, and we've already lost quite a few of my preceding generation on boh sides. I can't even imagine that by the time I'm at the age anybody would be 90 years old that any of them will still be with us.

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BRENDA it's nice that somebody paid for your slurpee! Things like that don't happen often enough. And SIX, given how you looked back then. I bet someone thought you were homeless! If only they knew...


Oh... I'm under no illusion that's not exactly what happened.

It's why I really didn't want to take the money but I thankfully said no at least 3 times and he insisted.

I've still got some really nice clothes and I can clean up really well when it's necessary, but back during covid I didn't give no shits. And even when I'm dressed nice, you'd still see me getting in and out of whatever POS car I'm driving at the time on top of it.



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Sunday, August 9, 2026 1:54 PM

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Back and done for today and I wonder how someone could wig out because someone left a pen at their place. That was my boss this morning. She called because I had left a pen at the house yesterday. She was all set to get it back to me when I said I have my laundry to do. She said "Oh, you have other pens?" Yes, I always have at least 2 in my pack back. Unlike them that can hardly ever find a pen in that house when I need to write something down.



That's funny, Brenda.

I don't think she was pissed off about you leaving it there. It sounds like she's living in a pen desert and doesn't realize she could walk right down the street and probably find a place selling them within walking distance.

It sounds like she really thought that was an emergency for you and you were completely lost without your pen.



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No, I don't think she was either. It was just strange that she was so worried that I didn't have another pen. In my place here. I keep a pen by my computer, I have another one for my writing and another pen that I am using for doing a book filled with puzzles. Also have a package of pens for when the ones in my back pack die.
But yeah, I find one pen that she had been using then I go back to use it and it disappears. So, I start hunting for another one if I do find another one it usually doesn't work.



I finally fixed my pen situation, Brenda. I took HUNDREDS of pens and pencils and markers from my folks when they moved out of state. And they all sat in a big dumb box buried deep inside my curio cabinet bottom under other things and never got used. And any time I needed a pen or pencil I couldn't find one anywhere.



I spent some time there sitting on the ground with all of them and throwing away the half of them that no longer worked, then I threw a bunch more away when I realized they had quite a few really nice pens and mechanical pencils in there. I probably still have 100 pens and pencils, but they're all good, and I know where the backups are (in a MUCH smaller box) when I need them. I got a pen, pencil and sharpie in my junk drawer, on the bedside table of the master bedroom I never use, and I've got about 5 of each in one of my decorative boxes on my curio cabinet, as well as about 50 sharpened pencils in the garage on my workbench.

And I know one day, one way or another, every single one of them is going to end up in my garage or in my basement work room and I'll wonder just how the hell that happened.



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Good for you SIX. I've got a box of pencil crayons sitting on a top shelf in bedroom closet and it may have some pencils in it. I know at one time it had my dad's discharge papers in it. I must have needed them for something and couldn't get them back into their regular box and they ended up in there. I was going through it to see what was in it. Strange.

That house I swear is where pens, markers and mushrooms go to die. You don't want to know what she does to mushrooms that she buys. It is so cruel to the mushrooms.

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Sunday, August 9, 2026 1:56 PM

BRENDA


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SIX, all that time you spent coding wasn't wasted bc you learned concepts. And that allows you to ask the right questions.

Asking the right questions and directing or redirecting the ai to do what yu need to be done is more than half the battle.

So good for you that you found a good tool! And even better that you know how to use it!

*****

Over here I called in crew to trim all the trees and shrubs on the property. It was a huge job bc we have a lot of big tree and a lot of shrubs that needed being cut down to size. I was impressed with the boss. When we did a walk thru and I pointed out all of the things that needed doing he correctly IDd almost of the trees and shrubs, including the feijoa and the coffee trees (!) that I have in pots. The only one he missed on was the oak, which he IDd as a black oak but is really (or was sold to me as) an Island oak. Close enough!

Happy with the job they did. They trimmed A LOT off the trees but they left good structures. Now dear daughter and I need to do the finishing cleanup touches when the weather cools down. And the pines won't be shedding literally binsful of pine needles every week!

And since it's been so blasted hot we've been working indoors. St Vincent de Paul hauled away 12+ boxes a couple of weeks ago. I set dear daughter up for her cash recycling and been after her to take care to rinse and sort it on a continuing basis instead of letting it build up. I set up another giveaway box to accumulate more items as I find them (already have a few items), and now I need to find largish bins for scrap metal (steel/ pot metal; brass/ bronze; and aluminum) since we have a scrap metal recycler down the street. Also been on dear daughter's neck to sort out some of the jumbles she has lying around, and going to replace the hooks that she had on her door so she can have a place for her clothes.

Got bad news about my last surviving uncle. My aunt and uncle are in their 90s, so good on them for living that long! But uncle landed in hospital with near total kidney failure. He's on the mend, but his kidneys are never going to recover anywhere close to 30%, so he and aunt have to move from their assisted living to a place that has nurses and doctors on staff.

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BRENDA it's nice that somebody paid for your slurpee! Things like that don't happen often enough. And SIX, given how you looked back then. I bet someone thought you were homeless! If only they knew...

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I'm sorry about your Uncle and Aunt but yes 90s is a good, long life for sure.

It is nice just surprising. I have had over the last few years had people ask me if I need help. I just thank them and say I'm alright. Some will ask me a couple of times too.

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Sunday, August 9, 2026 2:11 PM

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Out in a minute to get laundry done.


Also about yesterday my boss seems was surprised that I could hold a philosophical conversation with her husband about time. He had taken a quick course up at UBC. Guest speaker was teaching it. I agreed with a lot of what she said.



Sounds like they're a regular Dunning and Kruger.



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I know. I know. It just always seems to shock them that I can understand these concepts and discuss my thoughts rationally and logically.

The other was music. I explained a couple of stories from two Chris deBurgh songs. I love Chris deBurgh. One was a "Spaceman came Travelling". In that the suggestion is the star of David wasn't a star but a spaceship in orbit over Bethleham. The other was "Patricia the Stripper." And a stripper was arrested, she was taken to court but after hearing the case. The judge threw it out and everyone went back to the club along with the cops. The song is set in 1924. I posted "Discovery" on here and explained that to him. Even quoted and sang a bit of it. Sang the chorus of "16 Tons" that was originally by Tennessee Ernie Ford. "you load 16 tons, and what do you get. Another day older and deeper in debt. St. Peter don't you call me cause I can't go. I owe my soul to the company store."

Had to remind him that "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" was sung by Gordon Lightfoot and not Stompin' Tom Connors. Also explained how he got the nickname stomping. A little Johnny Cash history. She knows the Beatles as she talked about "Help from My Friends". Don't think she likes the song because "gasp" it talked in one line about getting high.

Honestly it is like they wander around in their own world.



Yeah... They do, but in the end I think we all kind of do that. Sometimes we just allow other people into our own orbit for maybe just a little while or maybe for the long haul.

Sometimes you've talked about them (her, specifically, to be honest) and I'd think "what a bitch"... But the more you talk about her, I think she's really got a soft spot for you. But she's not a soft lady, you see... so she doesn't really want to let you know that.





Wow... Chris deBurgh. I know one song by Chris deBurgh. It is the one song that everybody knows by Chris deBurgh. I liked it. It still reminds me of a beautiful young lass who I know wishes she still looked like that, but I always hope looks better than I do in 2026.



You're pulling out the Deep Cuts with that knowledge.

I'm sure they love having conversations like that.



I don't even know who Stompin' Tom Connors is, but I know who sung Edmund Fitzgerald. It's not on my playlist, but If You Could Read My Mind and especially Carefree Highway have been on it since high school when my English Teacher introduced us to a bunch of cool stuff before our time.


I've done that before... Haha!

I rememeber arguing with this girl that the Red Hot Chili Peppers did a song called "Epic". We argued about that all night. But there was no internet back then. No "Google It!". I had to apologize to her and eat crow the next time I saw her after I realized it was a band called "Faith No More".

Whoops!

I also told a girl I worked with at my first job that I didn't listen to Death Metal when she was wearing her Greatful Dead T-Shirt.



The first construction crew I worked with, the head guy there told me all the time "boy... you've really lived a sheltered life".

Annoyed me at the time, but he wasn't wrong.



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Oh, I know we all do in some ways spin in our own orbits and people drift in and out.

Oh, over the years she has said that she should worry about me. I just wonder sometimes is all.

I think "Lady in Red" has to be one of his most popular songs.

Stompin' Tom Connor was a Canadian singer/song writer that I grew up hearing like Gordon Lightfoot. Stompin' got his nick name was because he would have a square of plywood on stage and he would stomp on it to keep time for his singing and playing.
Yeah, Gordon Lightfoot. At one time you couldn't turn on a radio station in Canada without hearing his stuff.

Johnny Cash when he was young man got heavy into drugs or alcohol and he was arrested by a county sheriff? Any ways the Sheriff looked at him and said what you throwing your life away for? When he was released and I think he was married to June at the time, he called her, gathered his stuff and went into the hills to sober or clean. Came back around a month later and he never touched the stuff again. My boss's husband brought up his "Man in Black" and how going into Folsom the prisoners loved him. Which is why I told that story.

Yeah, I can do that a fair bit.

A few months or a year ago or so she brought up, "When I'm 64" and sang some of that with her.

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Sunday, August 9, 2026 2:13 PM

BRENDA


Any ways Sunday and I need to do a little clean up.

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Sunday, August 9, 2026 6:54 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Cleanup is good.


I have some residual cleanup to do outside. But right now its 98°F degrees outside! And I have a sinkful of dishes. I'll take the sinkful of dishes, Bob.


Still waiting for that cool down that's been predicted for 2 weeks now!

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger

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Sunday, August 9, 2026 7:59 PM

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I found out what that [STEM] stuff was all about as it happened even more frequently. That's actually something internal to the system and isn't necessarily even supposed to be seen by the end user, and not something that it pulled from somewhere else online.

I've actually gotten the AI to trigger a higher level on the server when it comes to ensuring mathematical accuracy, as well as making the AI more diligent in remembering all the context in what we've done together up until this point.


And I guess the fact that I've had this thing constantly updating our Blueprint when new code is written, it's been able to self-purge a lot of unnecessary data to keep this conversation lean and flowing without crashing out on me like the previous iteration did. My first conversation in this work flow only reached about 2,000 lines (both-ways combined). Our 2nd and current conversation has now reached over 10,000 lines and it seems to think that we're in no danger of any crashes any time soon because it is constantly able to purge unnecessary data and keep us going strong.

Really cool stuff.

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Sunday, August 9, 2026 11:19 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Oooooooh... That was rough.

It's weird working with these things. (Here I go, if not outright personifying them, giving them even the status of a Noun, even though I know I'm just "talking" to computer code and not even a physical hardware chip).

My 2nd session did finally die on me. No warning. Everything working fine until I made one last comment and I could tell from the reply message that we were probably dead. And it is... It's almost sad. Because I got used to a certain groove we were in and now I don't know what to expect going forward.

Fortunately, I have a great blueprint and code to copy/paste into a new session, and the new instance seems to understand it and is already blowing smoke up my ass about how impressive it is.

I did ask it to maintain our strict rules on coding and documentation going forward, which it seems to have already understood thanks to notes that our previous version wrote in the blueprint. But beyond that, I asked it to look at the entire code with its fresh set of eyes and give me an honest assessment of everything we've gotten so far, and it already believes it has identified some future landmines when we move on to more advanced code and I move my testing to a different location where the stakes are higher. (Not really... I'm working on all backups, but some of this new code we were building hadn't been tested at all yet under the new parameters).



I'm curious to see how the new iteration behaves and if it's going to break anything on me straight out the gates with its new suggestions or not. I've finished off backing up everything from the previous session in such a way I can't accidentally overwrite it if something goes terribly wrong here. I just have to remember where we left off and not let it drag me somewhere I'm not ready to go yet before I know we're still on the same page.

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Sunday, August 9, 2026 11:19 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Cleanup is good.


I have some residual cleanup to do outside. But right now its 98°F degrees outside! And I have a sinkful of dishes. I'll take the sinkful of dishes, Bob.


Still waiting for that cool down that's been predicted for 2 weeks now!

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger



Well, to tell the truth. I never really got around to any cleaning up except for the dishes. So, I will get to more of it tomorrow.

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Monday, August 10, 2026 1:51 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Man... This Session 3 is a big pain in the ass.

It's not S3's fault though. It's not S2's fault either. Overall we did a fantastic job keeping what was needed to pick up where we left off, but instead of programming what I need to program, we've basically spent all this time so far rewriting our blueprint to alter its behavior going forward in how it's to handle information and save important data for the next session.

It's all going to amount to a lot when this stuff gets ironed out, but you've got to remember that these things will take you quite literally if you're not careful about what you say that you want. It's good at recognizing idioms, and I don't mean that it gets confused by that, but if you even give it a hint that you want brevity because it's easier to save between sessions, it will literally strip all of the context out of the blueprint and the next version will understand the code we wrote, but won't have ANY of the hours of work you put in building up that code and wouldn't understand at all why things were failing now after a new change it made that hadn't already been tested and patched at length the day before. All it knows this time is the code, and if it sees something it doesn't like it could strip it right out of there and tell you it's doing a good thing only to realize after a failure that had already been addressed pops up again and now it understands why that part of the code had been written.

I had gotten Session 2 to finally understand all of this completely, but sadly it seems it did not add everything it needed to the blueprint so Session 3 would not be confused by all of this.

I think we're doing good now, but I guess I won't really know until I'm forced into Session 4. I'm hoping we actually get some coding done before this session drops and it's not all setting behavioral patterns in stone.

I might have to find out if there are other, better ways to maintain this data between sessions other than what it's told me we need to do up until this point.

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Monday, August 10, 2026 3:05 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Cleanup is good.


I have some residual cleanup to do outside. But right now its 98°F degrees outside! And I have a sinkful of dishes. I'll take the sinkful of dishes, Bob.


Still waiting for that cool down that's been predicted for 2 weeks now!

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger



Well, to tell the truth. I never really got around to any cleaning up except for the dishes. So, I will get to more of it tomorrow.



Me too. Other than running a couple of errands, did I I manage to do anything beside dishes and making soup?

Er.....Nope!

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