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Saturday, June 6, 2026 3:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


As costs soar and graduate prospects dim, the value of higher education can no longer be taken for granted

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Indeed.

You forgot the part about not doing SAT scores for admissions because you were only letting in blacks and women who couldn't get a good score on the SAT. You also forgot the part where no woman or black could be failed no matter how bad they were because that would be racist and/or sexist.


What nobody wants to admit is that a College Degree doesn't even mean anything anymore.


When it becomes something any dumb asshole who can't read can pass, it has no value. It has no worth.


Other than scamming tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars from naive kids with naive parents and creating an entire class of wage slaves for life.

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Saturday, June 6, 2026 3:38 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Bc you might learn something you can't learn anyplace else?

Like how to be a doctor, or a chemical engineer or something?

You can get "book learning" without college, but just like plumbing or welding there's a lot of technique in certain professions you can only get in labs and with instructed practice.

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Saturday, June 6, 2026 4:05 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


US the College, State University system worked maybe from late 1940s to mid 1980s it was the envy of the world.

The USA was almost always ahead expect maybe somewhere in Europe Switzerland or Japan that had a local understanding of species a certain skill set or exact specific knowledge
it was cheaper affordable and even during recession the US economy had an upward direction coming
You did business cool, your lectures gave you ideas, international business, computer business, cultural studies overseas trade and spreads and presentations that apply in other parts of the Americas and other cultures, corporate law and other international accounting practices, you got it all and hung around and networked with like minded people
Music, Arts then cool you learned to print, to play an instrument, to read and listen to melody, you got to network with another funny artist or an artist from another family of artists from Eastern Europe, you had so many skilled American artists in your school, your teachers gave you a history of music
Chemistry great, you got its applications in biology, in manufacturing and electronic products, you got to know the biology of the environment and air pollution control and the chemical gizmos and lab experiments and gadgets of the time



problems now
1
your Chatbot is smarter than your teacher
2
University College became political battle sites of indoctrination
3
its too expensive now
4
There is no guarantee of jobs anymore, you pu5t in time but have a worthless degree
5
the rest of the world avoided wars and got smarter...meanwhile Campus is full of graffiti and its political battles between two retard parties the Q-Anon and Antifa...China, Spain etc they dont get overtaken by riots and they have better infrastructure, the latest gizmos and labs

and Six...the Ivy league stuff, the elites they have become worse than the lowest of university and college...biggest old money brained frat bot sisterhood scam of them all
it was a scam since day one, the old elite rooms and dorms and Faculty Academia Functions for old Royal Money?
Half of those places held the traitors, they have the wrong guys when the USA won, the bad guys after the Revolution War or War of Independence.
They were owned on day one, long before Epstein Israeli money or Saudi money got in there.


btw a Sex Professor she starts leading a mob



Professor Nicole McNichols

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Saturday, June 6, 2026 5:07 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Bc you might learn something you can't learn anyplace else?

Like how to be a doctor, or a chemical engineer or something?

You can get "book learning" without college, but just like plumbing or welding there's a lot of technique in certain professions you can only get in labs and with instructed practice.




How many people that go to college become a doctor or chemical engineer or "something"?

Then get the number of total people who go to college and end up with careers that don't benefit at all from that wildly expensive piece of paper.


I think it should be fairly easy to figure out who should and should not be going to college after we have those numbers. Lets figure out projections for how many smart people we need for actual smart people jobs, and then only have that many people admitted to college every year, for EXACTLY THOSE PURPOSES.

SPOILER ALERT: Most people who go into life-long debt for college do not get anything out of it.


While we're at it. No new lawyer degrees for 10 years. I think we can all agree that we have more than enough of those scumbags.


And hey... If you're a fuckin' dummy but you've got rich parents. They can feel more than free to pay FULL TUITION to put your dumb ass in class. We just won't let them write it off as charity, even though it clearly is.



And again, WHEN YOU GIVE AWAY FREE COLLEGE TO MORONS WHO CAN'T READ AND YOU REFUSE TO FAIL THEM BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A RACISM AND/OR SEXISM, YOU'VE COMPLETELY DEVAULED THE COLLEGE DIPLOMA FOR AN ENTIRE GENERATION.

How can anybody be sure the person they're hiring actually deserved to go to the college in the first place, let alone had what it takes to graduate legitimately? ESPECIALLY if they're a minority or a woman.

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Saturday, June 6, 2026 5:09 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
US the College, State University system worked maybe from late 1940s to mid 1980s it was the envy of the world.

The USA was almost always ahead expect maybe somewhere in Europe Switzerland or Japan that had a local understanding of species a certain skill set or exact specific knowledge
it was cheaper affordable and even during recession the US economy had an upward direction coming
You did business cool, your lectures gave you ideas, international business, computer business, cultural studies overseas trade and spreads and presentations that apply in other parts of the Americas and other cultures, corporate law and other international accounting practices, you got it all and hung around and networked with like minded people
Music, Arts then cool you learned to print, to play an instrument, to read and listen to melody, you got to network with another funny artist or an artist from another family of artists from Eastern Europe, you had so many skilled American artists in your school, your teachers gave you a history of music
Chemistry great, you got its applications in biology, in manufacturing and electronic products, you got to know the biology of the environment and air pollution control and the chemical gizmos and lab experiments and gadgets of the time



problems now
1
your Chatbot is smarter than your teacher
2
University College became political battle sites of indoctrination
3
its too expensive now
4
There is no guarantee of jobs anymore, you pu5t in time but have a worthless degree
5
the rest of the world avoided wars and got smarter...meanwhile Campus is full of graffiti and its political battles between two retard parties the Q-Anon and Antifa...China, Spain etc they dont get overtaken by riots and they have better infrastructure, the latest gizmos and labs

and Six...the Ivy league stuff, the elites they have become worse than the lowest of university and college...biggest old money brained frat bot sisterhood scam of them all
it was a scam since day one, the old elite rooms and dorms and Faculty Academia Functions for old Royal Money?
Half of those places held the traitors, they have the wrong guys when the USA won, the bad guys after the Revolution War or War of Independence.
They were owned on day one, long before Epstein Israeli money or Saudi money got in there.



I agree with every word of this post.

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Saturday, June 6, 2026 10:16 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Knowing your hx, SIX, your post sounds like sour grapes.

Yes, universities are now operating as money- making diploma mills. Bc just like health care and the military, once government money pours into a sector without competition or oversight, scams inevitably follow. I know that for a fact, having seen letters from hubby's University describing that it needs to make its dorms and courses more attractive to attract more students.

It accelerated during Covid, when many youngsters unwisely decided to sit out the job market with a student loan.

And for the vast majority of ppl who go to college or university (oh BTW there's a difference between university and college) to avoid the job market or take a vacation get a meaningless degree, it's money down a rathole.

But you're forgetting that nearly EVERYONE I worked with for decades in a highly technical agency had science or engineering degrees. And these people were SMART. Scary- smart, some of them. They didn't go to university bc they were too lazy or stupid to do anything else.


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Saturday, June 6, 2026 11:26 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm not forgetting that there are smart people who should go to college. I've NEVER denied this.

What is the amount of people who come out of college who actually benefit from the degree other than having that piece of paper to help in job interviews?

What is the amount of people who actually benefit any employer with whatever they learned at college?


I don't know the answer to that, but I know it's not close to 50%.




You're goddamned right I've got sour grapes about it all too.

I have NEVER worked a job which would have benefited from a college degree. And that includes the last good job I had which would equate to over $120k per year in 2026. Everything I learned for that job was on the job training, and I didn't need to go to college to learn how to use computers or type over 60wpm.

But from the early 2000s until recently, if you wanted to even apply for a good job and not have your resume immediately thrown in the trash, you had to have that 4 year degree on there.

That meaningless fucking 4 year piece of paper that only proved that you had a lot of partying in your past and a large bill to pay off for the next few decades.


It's great news that we're bypassing kids with college degrees for these jobs over ones with them now, but most of those jobs are going to be replaced with AI soon anyway.


I"m glad that there's a large renaissance in learning trades in America, and that the general consensus is that college is not worth the time or money.

Because we've raised at least 2 generations who hardly know how to wipe their assholes, let alone keep the shit running that better people before them built.

Don't believe me? Just look around you.

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Sunday, June 7, 2026 5:44 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Instead of bitching about meaningless degrees, why don't you either get a degree that means something, or formally learn a trade?

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Sunday, June 7, 2026 6:02 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Berklee School of Music Offering AI Music Classes and the Students are PISSED!


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Sunday, June 7, 2026 3:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Instead of bitching about meaningless degrees, why don't you either get a degree that means something, or formally learn a trade?




Because I'm almost 50 and if I live 10 more years that's going to be a miracle.

It's too late.

And being a white male, I gotta pay for all of it besides. No thank you.

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Sunday, June 7, 2026 5:47 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yanno, hubby never thought he'd live to 50.
At 50 he was dx'd with aggressive prostate cancer.
He never thought he'd live past the age that his parents died.
Then he thought he'd never live past the average USA male lifespan.

Another story.
Many years ago, my family and I were standing in a hospital room watching my mother die.
My uncle, who was easygoing, and who I thought was just naturally healthy and happy, started telling me this story
"Yanno honey" he was saying as he started pulling a paper out of his wallet "Yanno when you go to a hospital and they always ask you what drugs you're on?" He was unfolding the paper. "I always carry this with me and just hand this to them" He handed me the paper and I kind of goggled at what seemed to me a VERY long list! I recognized a few heart failure meds and blood pressure meds and diabetes and arthritis meds.
He's 99 and still walking around.

Take good care of yourself, SIX. You've got more time than you think.
And, there's no time like the present
The only things I regret are not starting things sooner.
What will you think in 30 years when you look back on your life?





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Sunday, June 7, 2026 6:05 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I appreciate your kindness, but I'm on borrowed time.

I can't even count the amount of times now I should have been dead. When I was younger I used to fool myself into thinking that there was a reason I was still here. That maybe I had some sort of purpose that had yet to be carried out.

Heh... No.

It's just random luck amidst the chaos. Could have happened to literally anyone and likely has a million times over.

I don't mean nothing, and I never have.




And that's fine.

I just want to live the rest of my life being left alone.

So it's really unfortunate I have to go back to work part time at a thankless minimum wage job working with and for garbage people.

Oh well...

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Sunday, June 7, 2026 7:11 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I appreciate your kindness, but I'm on borrowed time.

I can't even count the amount of times now I should have been dead. When I was younger I used to fool myself into thinking that there was a reason I was still here. That maybe I had some sort of purpose that had yet to be carried out.

Heh... No.

It's just random luck amidst the chaos. Could have happened to literally anyone and likely has a million times over.

I don't mean nothing, and I never have.

And that's fine.

I just want to live the rest of my life being left alone.

So it's really unfortunate I have to go back to work part time at a thankless minimum wage job working with and for garbage people.

Oh well...

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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.



Hubby thought he'd never live to 25. He took an insane number of personal and job risks. Repaired pin setters in bowling alleys at 15. Worked dangerous construction and factory jobs... digging out unreinforced ditches and basements, punchpresses without emergency stop buttons, repaired motorcycles for the Hell's Angels. Raced motorcycles in the dirt and cars on the street. That's not including walking thru a minefield at 8 y/o and surviving an abusive dad. He has OFTEN said he should have been dead many times.

You both sound very similar, you're both oppositional and very bright.

He's still here. You will be too, count on it. Depressing as that may sound to you!


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Monday, June 8, 2026 2:41 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
So it's really unfortunate I have to go back to work part time at a thankless minimum wage job working with and for garbage people.

Oh well...

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I thought you were going to not work.

A freind of mine started working at Home Depot. Entry level job, but it is the highest hourly rate ($19) in the store. Called "Freight Team" - which is unloading the trucks and putting the merch on the store shelves. Mostly at night, some positions aree 20 hours per week, others 40 hours. Sounds like that would be up your alley. A decent workout, i guess.

Another guy I know does "lumber reclamation" or worn wood recovery. Which means taking old wood off old barns and such. Claims they pay upper 30's per hour, for DIY people. Pretty sure he is stomed all the time, and nobody seems to care, plus he works when he wants, or not. Here the company is called Board and Beam, but I assume they are all over.

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Monday, June 8, 2026 3:23 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
So it's really unfortunate I have to go back to work part time at a thankless minimum wage job working with and for garbage people.

Oh well...

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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.

I thought you were going to not work.

A freind of mine started working at Home Depot. Entry level job, but it is the highest hourly rate ($19) in the store. Called "Freight Team" - which is unloading the trucks and putting the merch on the store shelves. Mostly at night, some positions aree 20 hours per week, others 40 hours. Sounds like that would be up your alley. A decent workout, i guess.

Another guy I know does "lumber reclamation" or worn wood recovery. Which means taking old wood off old barns and such. Claims they pay upper 30's per hour, for DIY people. Pretty sure he is stomed all the time, and nobody seems to care, plus he works when he wants, or not. Here the company is called Board and Beam, but I assume they are all over.




I appreciate the info.

Yeah. If I had my way I wouldn't be going back to work, but I knew eventually I'd have to for one reason or another. Even if I don't lose my insurance that I can't be without anymore, I'm going to eventually run out of money. And prices haven't gotten any better so, yanno...

If I get this house ready to sell and move into a nice small house down by my brother, I could probably live off of that for the rest of my life pretty easily, but I don't have enough liquidity to wait for the Bears to build a stadium and start playing here before I run out.

And the worst thing was I found out if you didn't work in the last 5+ years, you don't get to file for Social Security Disability. I really screwed myself there. I need to start working at least a few hours every quarter for the next 5 years before I become eligible for it again.


I'll look into those things. If I can't get back into my old job or find out that it's not at all like it used to be, I'll try anything that I can to ensure I'm not doing any type of service job where I need to be coming into contact with customers. Just point me in the direction of the physical labor you're sure isn't going to get done by the end of the night and get out of my hair for 8 hours and you won't be disappointed with the results.

Thanks again.

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Monday, June 8, 2026 3:25 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I appreciate your kindness, but I'm on borrowed time.

I can't even count the amount of times now I should have been dead. When I was younger I used to fool myself into thinking that there was a reason I was still here. That maybe I had some sort of purpose that had yet to be carried out.

Heh... No.

It's just random luck amidst the chaos. Could have happened to literally anyone and likely has a million times over.

I don't mean nothing, and I never have.

And that's fine.

I just want to live the rest of my life being left alone.

So it's really unfortunate I have to go back to work part time at a thankless minimum wage job working with and for garbage people.

Oh well...

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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.



Hubby thought he'd never live to 25. He took an insane number of personal and job risks. Repaired pin setters in bowling alleys at 15. Worked dangerous construction and factory jobs... digging out unreinforced ditches and basements, punchpresses without emergency stop buttons, repaired motorcycles for the Hell's Angels. Raced motorcycles in the dirt and cars on the street. That's not including walking thru a minefield at 8 y/o and surviving an abusive dad. He has OFTEN said he should have been dead many times.

You both sound very similar, you're both oppositional and very bright.

He's still here. You will be too, count on it. Depressing as that may sound to you!


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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger



I wonder if he's like my grandpa.

He had a great sense of humor, but he was definitely my mom's dad as much as I'm her son. And it only gets worse the older you get.





ETA: Is your husband Polish too? My grandpa was, 100%.

Maybe we're related.

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