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Trump Is Destroying Everything He Touches

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Saturday, November 15, 2025 11:14 AM

THG

Keep it real please


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When you make stupid statements like "Trump is destroying EVERYTHING he touches" all anyone has to do is prove one thing NOT destroyed to prove you wrong, silly.

THUGR:
Made in America’ Crushed—7 Shutdowns Signal Total Industrial Retreat
The U.S. manufacturing sector shrank for the fifth month in a row in July 2025. The Institute for Supply Management (ISM) reported a Purchasing Managers’ Index (PMI) of 48.0, down from 49.0 in June. A reading below 50 signals contraction, meaning production, orders, and employment are declining.
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You've said that before. I'm still waiting for you to prove me wrong.



Has he destroyed... oh, say ... Somalia?
No?
Well, that's ONE thing he hasn't destroyed!
/snark

Has he destroyed the southern border?
Nope! That was Biden*

Has he destroyed equal opportunity?
Nope!
That was Biden* too.

Did he defund the police? Destroy policing in the USA?
Nope!
Also Biden*!


When you think in big bold letters, making Universal Statements and ignoring facts, you make Big Errors.

But don't feel bad, you're not the only one who does that.






Many times it is how Trump goes about things like immigration that is the problem. He definitely is fucking that up. And most Americans think so. And this list you've posted here is pure shit.

I see you're sourcing zerohedge again. It means your source is shit. Therefore, your post is shit. Lies and bullshit are all it is.

The ACA is always getting slammed by you guys. It added 20 million people to the ranks of the insured. Here’s the point that shows how full of shit you are. The republicans voted more than 50 times to repeal it. Each time they promised to introduce a much better plan. That bullshit started how many years ago? I’ll tell you. It was March of 2010 when the Affordable Care Act was first introduced.

So comrade, where is their beautiful new and better bill? The one they've been promising since 2010? You're so full of shit. And so’s your post. Trump said it again. During his campaign he would first, create a bigger and better plan before he fucked with health care.

Never ever do you call the republicans and Trump out on that. And they've done it more than 50 times.

Oh yeah China. This all happened before when Trump was president. He had to bail out the farmers. And the moron still did it again. And you didn't see it coming? Worse yet, this time the soy market is not coming back; it's gone. Trump made a huge mistake, a huge mistake.

Your bullshit agenda is transparent comrade.

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Saturday, November 15, 2025 11:17 AM

THG

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Inflation and Tariffs: Inflation has picked up since the tariffs were announced, with consumer price index data showing outsized increases in tariff-sensitive categories, including beef. The average tariff rate has increased to 17.4%, the highest since 1935, costing households an extra $2,300 in 2025.



Your long winded posts with you latching on to something, and completely getting it wrong are classic Signym. The other reasons you quote for high beef prices don't mean shit. This is not complicated. You don't need graphs or water shortage statistics to figure out what Trumps tariffs are doing. First, you have the price of something, in this case beef, add the cost of the tariff onto the product. In this case beef.

Even a child knows if you add 25% to the cost of something, then its cost goes up 25%. I'm laughing here because this is so simple. Again, even a child knows if American companies are paying the 25% tariff, some of that cost is passed onto the consumer; still laughing. By the way, in America it is called a tax. Trump raised everyone's taxes by raising the cost of everything they buy.

I can't believe how much time and energy you've put into two pages of this thread, arguing and defending Trumps tariffs. All the while saying they aren't killing American companies and consumers. He raised the price of everything, for business and consumer alike that has a tariff attached to it. Which is everything.

By how much did he raise our taxes? By the different tariff amounts attached to each product you buy or pay for. And more and more of those higher prices being picked up by our companies are passed onto us. I'm still laughing comrade, not really. This is a fucking nightmare.

Now, a tariff adds that amount onto the cost of a product. Regardless of other factors that may increase a price. A 25% tariff adds 25% to the cost. It's a sales, a consumption tax on the consumer. There's nothing to debate lass. If you think there is, ask a child to explain it to you.

And just a reminder. Trump is giving 2 trillion dollars in tax breaks to the top .01 percent. Where is he getting the money to replace his tax cuts for the rich? From tariffs, i.e. sales, consumption taxes of course. Also, by denying healthcare to millions, cutting NASA's budget by 47%, and so on and so on.

You know it takes a real moron to give an idiot an important job. And you did just that.

Next topic...






Remember this comrade? And guess what. Trump just got rid of the tariffs on beef. Should I remind you of that conversation? Too funny...

I see Jack is in a panic in tag. He's writing books there distancing himself from everyone and everything.



T


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Saturday, November 15, 2025 5:51 PM

THG

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SNAP BENEFITS AND HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS






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Saturday, November 15, 2025 6:48 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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I see Jack is in a panic in tag. He's writing books there distancing himself from everyone and everything.



Panic? What are you talking about?

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Saturday, November 15, 2025 7:15 PM

THG

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Businesses have shielded you from $30 billion monthly in tariff costs but not for much longer

Companies have been protecting shoppers from Trump's tariffs by absorbing costs themselves, but CEOs warn that financial buffer is ending as profit margins crack under pressure.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/businesses-have-shielded-you-from
-30-billion-monthly-in-tariff-costs-but-not-for-much-longer/vi-AA1QnkBo?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=69190ebadbab4fb7a4cf447bb6bef264&ei=119



As I've said.

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Saturday, November 15, 2025 7:17 PM

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I see Jack is in a panic in tag. He's writing books there distancing himself from everyone and everything.



Panic? What are you talking about?


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Sunday, November 16, 2025 7:25 AM

THG

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Comrade signym, you should have gotten out in front of Trumps lowering and even ending some tariffs. Yano, to try and save face because you argued so hard they were good. Come on, this was so easy to see coming. I explained it to you again and again but you had to be contrarian. From contrarian to fool. Oh well...

T


WHITE HOUSE FLIPS ON TARIFF POLICY





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Sunday, November 16, 2025 10:14 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


To assess the impacts of the tariffs on retail prices of both domestic and imported goods, a team of Harvard economists has been tracking retail prices using real-time barcode data. The latest data through early October show that tariffs have raised retail prices on average by about 4.9 percentage points relative to the pre-tariff trend, 6.0 percentage points for imported goods and 4.3 percentage points for domestic goods. Several goods have experienced notably large price increases, including apparel (8.99 percentage points), coffee and tea (7.5 percentage points), cameras (7.5 percentage points), household textiles (6.2 percentage points), and furniture (6.5 percentage points).

https://angrybearblog.com/2025/11/tariffs-and-prices

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, November 16, 2025 11:50 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Comrade signym, you should have gotten out in front of Trumps lowering and even ending some tariffs. Yano, to try and save face because you argued so hard they were good. Come on, this was so easy to see coming. I explained it to you again and again but you had to be contrarian. From contrarian to fool. Oh well...

T


Trump lowers tariffs to lower costs. MAGA, pay attention here.




Fuck your faggot cowboy.

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Sunday, November 16, 2025 7:13 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


The 4 shocks jolting the US economy towards recession (3 are all Trump's fault)

https://bonddad.blogspot.com/2025/11/the-4-shocks-jolting-us-economy-t
owards.html


1. Tariffs

2. Medical cost increases.

3. The suspension of food stamp benefits.

4. AI-related layoffs.

Let’s briefly discuss each of these in turn.

1. Since “Liberation Day” at the beginning of April, almost $200 Billion in tariffs have been imposed, an increase of over $100 Billion since 2024. In Q3, this was roughly 3x the amount collected before this year, and 6x the amount collected just before the 1st T—-p Administration:

The evidence so far is that in the aggregate companies are bearing about half of the increased burden, and are passing on about half of the burden to customers. In October alone, $60 Billion in tariffs were collected. If customers paid half of that by way of price increases, that amounts to $50 for every man, woman, and child in the US. That may not be a significant burden for affluent households, but for lower income households it is going to have a real impact.

2. Medical cost increases. As part of the Big Bad Billionaire Bust-out Bill, Obamacare subsidies were ended. Since about 90% of all Obamacare enrollees make use of these subsidies, that means that 22 million people are directly affected:

These households are either going to have to pay (in some cases astronomical) increases for the cost of coverage, or drop medical coverage completely. If they pay, that is another shock to the household budget; if they don’t, it affects the coverage, and the profits of insurers and health care providers. The proposed ending of the government shutdown will make this effective immediately.

3. The suspension of food stamp benefits. As has been widely reported this month, about 44 million people in the US make use of food stamps:

To the extent meager household income has to be diverted to buy that food, needless to say it is not available for any other kind of consumption (including payment or rent or utilities). While the ending of the government shutdown should mean the resumption in payments, keep in mind that the proposed continuing resolution only lasts through January. In other words, in 75 days we are right back here, and the successful use of SNAP benefits as a fiscal weapon this time means it will surely be implemented again then.

4. Finally, as I noted on Friday, layoffs as counted by Challenger Gray were at their second highest monthly level since the COVID lockdowns, and the highest October level in a quarter of a century. Many of these were concentrated in tech companies, as live human beings were replaced (or, “replaced”) by AI algorithms:

While this hasn’t shown up in any appreciable increase in new jobless claims, as I noted yesterday the number of continuing claims is close to its highest level in over three years. If this continues, it seems very likely we’ll see it show up in an increase in initial claims as well.

So there you have it: four somewhat independent shocks to the US economic system that individually or collectively might be enough to push it over the edge into a recession. In that regard, let me re-post this graph of the likely combined impacts of tariffs and the Big Bad Billionaire Bust-out Bill on household incomes by percentile:

This only includes the first two of the 4 shocks described above.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, November 16, 2025 7:23 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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The 4 shocks jolting the US economy towards recession (3 are all Trump's fault)



Shut the fuck up.

We were in a recession for 3 years under Joe Biden* and you pretended it didn't even exist.

We have no patience for your bullshit anymore and everything you have to say on any topic is worthless in 2025.

You did that. Pat yourself on the back, retard.

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Sunday, November 16, 2025 7:58 PM

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The 4 shocks jolting the US economy towards recession (3 are all Trump's fault)



Shut the fuck up.

We were in a recession for 3 years under Joe Biden* and you pretended it didn't even exist.

We have no patience for your bullshit anymore and everything you have to say on any topic is worthless in 2025.

You did that. Pat yourself on the back, retard.

6ixStringJack, you have no income. Every day is a recession as your funds are drawn down to zero.

Official status

Not in a recession: The NBER has not declared a recession since the short one in February-April 2020, while Trump was President.

Warning signs and regional differences caused by Trump

• State-level recessions: At least 22 states and Washington, D.C. (where Trump fired government employees) are currently in or at high risk of a recession, according to Moody's Analytics.

• Weakening job market: Job growth has slowed, and some analyses indicate that job growth was overstated in the past year.

• Increased consumer strain: Many people are using GoFundMe for essential expenses, and subprime car loan delinquency rates are high.

• Manufacturing and housing weakness: Manufacturing output is falling in some areas, and housing markets are slowing.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, November 17, 2025 8:07 AM

THG

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To assess the impacts of the tariffs on retail prices of both domestic and imported goods, a team of Harvard economists has been tracking retail prices using real-time barcode data. The latest data through early October show that tariffs have raised retail prices on average by about 4.9 percentage points relative to the pre-tariff trend, 6.0 percentage points for imported goods and 4.3 percentage points for domestic goods. Several goods have experienced notably large price increases, including apparel (8.99 percentage points), coffee and tea (7.5 percentage points), cameras (7.5 percentage points), household textiles (6.2 percentage points), and furniture (6.5 percentage points).

https://angrybearblog.com/2025/11/tariffs-and-prices

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




Hey SECOND. I can’t seem to find comrade signym. Jack is here. He offers no facts to dispute your post. He only trolls it, which is typical of Gillian. The guys an idiot. Bottom line, I don't like racists, bigots, misogynistic white supremacist pieces of trash. And that perfectly describes, Jack. And I don't like anyone who enables that behavior. That's Jacks friends here.

Signym is hiding. Why, because people are heading to the stores for Christmas and the shit is hitting the fan.

T


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Monday, November 17, 2025 9:14 AM

THG

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The inflation rates for Christmas items have been a concern for consumers, especially during the holiday season. Here are some key points regarding the inflation rates for Christmas items:
Inflation Rate: The average inflation rate for the holiday season is around 3% to 4% as of September 2024.
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Tariffs Impact: Tariffs have been a significant factor in the cost of Christmas items, with average levies of 26.9% on artificial holiday trees and 26.6% on Christmas lights.
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Consumer Spending: The average consumer is expected to spend about $1,595 on holiday gifts this year, which is a 10% decrease from the previous year.
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Electronics and Apparel: Electronics and apparel are expected to see the largest per-person increase in costs due to tariffs.
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Imported Goods: 88% of clothing and accessories, and nearly 69% of electronics, are imported from abroad, which is a major factor in the cost of holiday items.
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Consumers should be prepared for higher prices when purchasing Christmas items this year due to inflation and tariffs. It is advisable to check the source of the items and consider the tariffs when budgeting for the holiday season.
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Hey MAGA, hey Signym, Trump says Merry Christmas.

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Monday, November 17, 2025 2:14 PM

THG

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Monday, November 17, 2025 2:42 PM

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Inflation and Tariffs: Inflation has picked up since the tariffs were announced, with consumer price index data showing outsized increases in tariff-sensitive categories, including beef. The average tariff rate has increased to 17.4%, the highest since 1935, costing households an extra $2,300 in 2025.



Your long winded posts with you latching on to something, and completely getting it wrong are classic Signym. The other reasons you quote for high beef prices don't mean shit. This is not complicated. You don't need graphs or water shortage statistics to figure out what Trumps tariffs are doing. First, you have the price of something, in this case beef, add the cost of the tariff onto the product. In this case beef.

Even a child knows if you add 25% to the cost of something, then its cost goes up 25%. I'm laughing here because this is so simple. Again, even a child knows if American companies are paying the 25% tariff, some of that cost is passed onto the consumer; still laughing. By the way, in America it is called a tax. Trump raised everyone's taxes by raising the cost of everything they buy.

I can't believe how much time and energy you've put into two pages of this thread, arguing and defending Trumps tariffs. All the while saying they aren't killing American companies and consumers. He raised the price of everything, for business and consumer alike that has a tariff attached to it. Which is everything.

By how much did he raise our taxes? By the different tariff amounts attached to each product you buy or pay for. And more and more of those higher prices being picked up by our companies are passed onto us. I'm still laughing comrade, not really. This is a fucking nightmare.

Now, a tariff adds that amount onto the cost of a product. Regardless of other factors that may increase a price. A 25% tariff adds 25% to the cost. It's a sales, a consumption tax on the consumer. There's nothing to debate lass. If you think there is, ask a child to explain it to you.

And just a reminder. Trump is giving 2 trillion dollars in tax breaks to the top .01 percent. Where is he getting the money to replace his tax cuts for the rich? From tariffs, i.e. sales, consumption taxes of course. Also, by denying healthcare to millions, cutting NASA's budget by 47%, and so on and so on.

You know it takes a real moron to give an idiot an important job. And you did just that.

Next topic...







T

WHITE HOUSE FLIPS ON TARIFF POLICY





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Monday, November 17, 2025 3:48 PM

THG

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Trump and his treasury secretary are blaming migrants for high beef prices because they are bringing their cows with them when they cross the border.

Comrade signym, I'm fucking dying here.

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Monday, November 17, 2025 4:03 PM

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The 4 shocks jolting the US economy towards recession (3 are all Trump's fault)



Shut the fuck up.

We were in a recession for 3 years under Joe Biden* and you pretended it didn't even exist.

We have no patience for your bullshit anymore and everything you have to say on any topic is worthless in 2025.

You did that. Pat yourself on the back, retard.

6ixStringJack, you have no income. Every day is a recession as your funds are drawn down to zero.



What a dumb fucking thing to say when I've got a net worth of $400k with zero debt and I haven't worked in 6 years.

I'm not the problem here. Joe Biden* making that $400k worth only 70% of what it was worth in 2020 is.

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Monday, November 17, 2025 4:12 PM

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To assess the impacts of the tariffs on retail prices of both domestic and imported goods, a team of Harvard economists has been tracking retail prices using real-time barcode data. The latest data through early October show that tariffs have raised retail prices on average by about 4.9 percentage points relative to the pre-tariff trend, 6.0 percentage points for imported goods and 4.3 percentage points for domestic goods. Several goods have experienced notably large price increases, including apparel (8.99 percentage points), coffee and tea (7.5 percentage points), cameras (7.5 percentage points), household textiles (6.2 percentage points), and furniture (6.5 percentage points).

https://angrybearblog.com/2025/11/tariffs-and-prices

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




Hey SECOND. I can’t seem to find comrade signym. Jack is here. He offers no facts to dispute your post. He only trolls it, which is typical of Gillian. The guys an idiot. Bottom line, I don't like racists, bigots, misogynistic white supremacist pieces of trash. And that perfectly describes, Jack. And I don't like anyone who enables that behavior. That's Jacks friends here.

Signym is hiding. Why, because people are heading to the stores for Christmas and the shit is hitting the fan.

T

This Trumptard's business collapsed because of Trump's tariffs. Did he learn? No. No. Hell no. He is as dumb as they come:
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Standing by the vote

Wilson Jones voted for Trump — all three times.

"I voted for Trump all three times. Yep. I did," he admits. "But I literally was in the voting booth. And I rapped my knuckles and the Trump one hurt more, and that was the one that I voted for. Because it was just, it was so disgusting and, and I hate to say that, but that's literally how I made that choice."

Even after losing his business to Trump's policies, he stands by his vote: "Given the two people running, regardless of what they said on the campaign trail, I would've voted for President Trump again."

His brother Stephen agrees: "I don't think I had a choice to vote any other direction."

Why are businesses failing? There are details here, https://moneywise.com/news/economy/north-carolina-man-who-voted-for-tr
ump-forced-to-shut-family-lumber-mill-due-to-tariffs
but I quote one significant part about the cost for what Trump is doing:

Tariffs breaking promises

On "Liberation Day," President Trump said: "Jobs and factories will come roaring back into our country, and you see it happening already. We will supercharge our domestic industrial base." (6) But the numbers tell a different story.

According to the American Enterprise Institute, the cost to American purchasers per manufacturing job created by tariff protection will be at least $225,000 annually per job-year for an indefinite period, with more realistic calculations indicating a cost of $550,000 annually per job-year (7).

So what's the fundemental problem? Tariffs raise costs for American manufacturers that rely on imported materials. For every job in steel production, there are another 80 jobs in U.S. industries that use steel (8). When steel prices go up — as they have, with some domestic producers raising prices 38.5% — those 80 downstream jobs suffer.

Wilson Jones doesn't hold back about what he'd tell President Trump if he visited the shuttered mill: "President Trump, gee, I understand what you're trying to do, but you're on a fool's mission. And you're not helping out a few. You're hurting a lot."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, November 17, 2025 4:49 PM

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Right back to tariffs now that you can't talk about Epstein anymore, huh faggots?



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Monday, November 17, 2025 5:11 PM

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Right back to tariffs now that you can't talk about Epstein anymore, huh faggots?



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Trump could release the Epstein files today, if he wanted to. Trump's sudden support of Congress voting to release the Epstein files at an unknown time in the future means less than nothing when Trump could do it instantaneously and without a vote by both houses of Congress.

Trump desperately tries to make his loss on the Epstein files look like a win
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2025/11/17/trump-repu
blicans-house-epstein-files-vote/87319181007
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, November 17, 2025 5:17 PM

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You've always got something stupid to say.

Just shut the fuck up, dummy.

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Monday, November 17, 2025 5:39 PM

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Right back to tariffs now that you can't talk about Epstein anymore, huh faggots?



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Trump could release the Epstein files today, if he wanted to. Trump's sudden support of Congress voting to release the Epstein files at an unknown time in the future means less than nothing when Trump could do it instantaneously and without a vote by both houses of Congress.

Trump desperately tries to make his loss on the Epstein files look like a win
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2025/11/17/trump-repu
blicans-house-epstein-files-vote/87319181007
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two





If the DOJ opens up new investigations regarding Epstein, the files cannot be released. Trump has already ordered that to happen.

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Monday, November 17, 2025 6:41 PM

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If the DOJ opens up new investigations regarding Epstein, the files cannot be released. Trump has already ordered that to happen.

T


The Department of Justice now does whatever Trump wants, without question, without regard for the law or ethics. If Trump really wanted us to see the Epstein files, which he claims he's totally not afraid of, he could just order Attorney General Pam Bondi to release the documents.

https://x.com/ByChrisBrennan/status/1990286334708363728

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/10/08/trump-comey-bo
lton-james-retribution-justice-department/86584843007
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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