Do you feel like the winds of change are blowing today too? by 6ixStringJack

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Do you feel like the winds of change are blowing today too?

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Tuesday, November 11, 2025 8:05 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

SECOND, you're weird.

Why don't you do something useful and fix that equipment instead of working yourself up into a lather ever day, with your five ~~minutes~~ hours of hate?

"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger

SECOND:
You have repeatedly crossed this line, Signym

Oh, you mean this
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line, SECOND?

I honestly don't know what "line" you're talking about dood.

I worked hard, pay my taxes, take care as best I can of my family, don't smoke, rarely drink, don't steal, and even vote Democrat most of the time.

By those measures, I should be golden!

Or are you all tweaked about my signature, which has got to be just about the LEAST important thing about me?

You have a problem, SECOND.

You've spent HOW MANY (???) posts ranting and trying to insult me and SIX. I just consider the source, and think that an insult from you is like a badge of honor.

So ... Thanks, buddy!

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger

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Tuesday, November 11, 2025 10:18 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Crossing the line? Are you kidding me?

I've archived so many assassination fantasies, calls for assassination, threats against other members here and suggestions that they kill themselves out of Second that I stopped bothering archiving them. They've become trite at this point, just like all 3 of his regular personal insults he'll hurl out on a daily basis when he's being destroyed by facts.

Neither Ted nor Second have spent a single second of their lives engaging in any form of self-reflection.

They are completely oblivious to how evil they have become.

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Wednesday, November 12, 2025 12:31 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Somebody ask Mamdani this question for me...

Now he's going to tell you the answer is 67, but I assure you this is wrong.

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Wednesday, November 12, 2025 7:50 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

As I said from day one, that lying slut isn't going to get a dime.

Why are you littering theses boards with assassination plots, telling people that they should kill themselves and your desire to murder everyone you don't agree with everyday?

6ix, if Indiana is anything like the areas in Texas where Trumptards are the dominant faction, I'm guessing your associates are a bunch of fucking liars, rapists, and Nazis. In any Trumptardish society, there will be almost nothing but liars, rapists and Nazis if you don't kill them, or at least threaten them, when they overtly display their habitual depravity. That is because Trumptards are fundamentally NOT honest, hardworking, truthful, smart, brave people. After all, Trump is not, either. Please, please don't claim that Trumptards are "good" since I'm around them all the time and Trumptards are "bad", which is why they complain about virtue signalling. Virtue makes Trumptards feel itchy because they are allergic to it.

War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Grocery Prices Are Way Down.

Lying has worked for Trump in the past. Is this a lie too far?

Paul Krugman | Nov 12, 2025

https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/war-is-peace-freedom-is-slavery-gro
cery

Well, whaddya know:

Trump now just as unpopular as Biden during inflation surge
Difference between the share of Americans who approve and disapprove of the way the president is handling "prices and inflation," percentage points.

Donald Trump continues to say that polls showing that Americans are unhappy about the economy are “fake.” But the blowout Democratic victories in last week’s elections may have given him a wakeup call. As the New York Times reported, Trump “has mentioned affordability as much in the last week as he has in the past nine months.”

But the Times went on to engage in some serious false equivalence:

Mr. Trump risks being in a similar position as his predecessor, defending his record by pointing to statistics that don’t capture a troubling reality that many Americans are feeling.

Sorry, but that’s a false comparison. You might even call it fake news — because Trump is not, in fact, pointing to any statistics. He’s just lying.

It is true that Biden officials liked to cite statistics that presented a favorable picture of the economy, but they were genuine statistics and did indeed seem to show an economy in pretty good shape.

Trump, by contrast, is engaged in what CNN calls a “lying spree” about inflation. We all know that many media organizations have long had a habit of “sanewashing” Trump, downplaying the craziness of his remarks. What we’re seeing now is “truthwashing,” pretending that there is some factual justification for bald-faced lies.

Let’s talk for a minute about what happened under Biden, then turn to Trump’s pants-on-fire claims about prices.

Biden officials never denied that there was a surge in inflation during 2021 and 2022. They did, however, claim that the surge was transitory. “Transitory” turned out to be much longer than they (and the Federal Reserve) initially predicted, but the surge was nonetheless temporary: Inflation peaked in mid-2022, then fell rapidly over the next 2 years. And this disinflation, defying the predictions of many economists, took place without a recession.

Biden’s people also never denied that prices were higher than they had been before the pandemic. But they said, correctly, that wages had risen even more, so that most workers’ purchasing power was higher despite the rise in prices. In 2024, Biden declared that “we’re proving that we can bring down inflation while safeguarding hard-won gains in jobs and real wages in American workers.” This was a completely truthful claim.

The chart below shows hourly wages for typical workers and consumer prices, both as indexes with January 2020, the eve of the pandemic, set to 100:

By 2024, prices were about 20 percent higher than pre-pandemic — but wages were 25 percent higher. Real wages were indeed up.

In case you’re wondering, that temporary wage bump in 2020 was a statistical illusion created by pandemic distortions, which is why you want to use pre-pandemic wages to evaluate wages under Biden.

Unfortunately for the Biden team, it’s a well-established observation that when wages and prices both rise, people tend to feel victimized, believing that they earned their wage gains only to have the benefits snatched away by inflation — even if wages rose more than prices. I’ll talk more about that in this weekend’s primer. And when there’s a global inflation shock, as there was in 2021-2023, incumbent governments take much of the blame no matter what they do — which is why, as John Burn-Murdoch of the Financial Times has noted, 2024 was a “graveyard of incumbents” around the world.

Biden should have been out there much more. He should have said, “I feel your pain,” acknowledging voter distress. But he didn’t. And as G. Elliott Morris notes, in 2024 voters who said that the economy was their most important issue favored Trump by 63 points over Kamala Harris.

This worm has, however, turned with astonishing speed. In last week’s gubernatorial elections, economy-focused voters favored Democrats by almost 30 points — a 90-point swing. Voters appear to have decided that Trump’s campaign promises to bring prices down were fraudulent, and punished his party accordingly.

Trump could respond to voters’ harsh verdict on his economic policies by citing real economic numbers, which aren’t all bad. He could acknowledge that there are problems but promise that prosperity is just around the corner. He could even change course, trying to address real concerns about affordability.

That is, he could do these things if he were a completely different person. What he’s doing instead, being who he is, is trying to gaslight America, claiming that everything is wonderful.

I won’t try to go through the full list of Trump’s economic lies. Daniel Dale has a fairly comprehensive run-through at CNN. https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/10/politics/inflation-trump-fact-check

Let me just take one example, gas prices, which Trump says are at their lowest level in two decades and close to $2 a gallon. That’s not what official data say, but Trump has a habit of insisting that government numbers he doesn’t like are fake and politically motivated — he fired the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics over a weak jobs report. As it happens, however, several private organizations independently track gasoline prices to help drivers find the best deals. And they show gas above $3 a gallon and nowhere near a record low. Here, for example, is Gasbuddy.com:

https://www.gasbuddy.com/charts

Still, Trump has lied a lot over time, and in general it has worked for him. Will this time be different?

Yes. Voters do sometimes believe lies, but not the kind of lies Trump is telling.

Voters can sometimes be convinced, falsely, that bad things are happening to other people, even when they themselves are doing OK. Many Americans who don’t live in Chicago probably believe administration claims that the city, which just had its safest summer since the 1960s, is a war zone.

But telling people that things are great when their personal experience says otherwise is different. Are violent mobs overrunning Portland? If you watch Fox News, you might believe that. Are groceries “way down,” as Trump keeps insisting? Anyone who does their own food shopping — even Republicans — knows that this isn’t true. Reupping a chart from yesterday’s post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/tablet/2025/10/30/oct-24-28-2025-washin
gton-post-abc-news-ipsos-poll/

So, why have voters turned so negative, so quickly, on Trump’s management of the economy? Objectively, the economy is worse in some important respects than it was last year. We haven’t seen mass layoffs (yet?), but finding jobs has gotten much harder. Here’s the “labor market differential,” the difference between the percentage of people saying jobs are plentiful and those saying they’re hard to get:

Source: Conference Board via Haver Analytics

Furthermore, we’re experiencing “K-shaped” economic growth, with those at the top doing well but those further down losing ground. Many people on both the left and the right claimed that this was happening under Biden, but the truth was the opposite: Under Biden, wages at the bottom consistently rose faster than wages at the top. This year, however, that pattern has been reversed:

Source: Atlanta Fed https://www.atlantafed.org/chcs/wage-growth-tracker

As that left-wing rag the Wall Street Journal points out, the only people who seem to be feeling good about the economy right now are those who own a lot of stock.

But I believe that the turn against Trump is also in large part a backlash against his attempts to gaslight the public about the true state of the economy. Once again, these attempts aren’t about putting a positive spin on the data. They’re just flat-out lies.

And Democrats should hammer those lies as proof not just that Trump is utterly dishonest, but that he’s completely out of touch with the reality of American life.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, November 12, 2025 9:29 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Over the weekend, President Donald Trump promised Americans $2,000 each from the "trillions of dollars" in tariff revenue he said his administration has collected.

"People that are against Tariffs are FOOLS!," Trump said in a Nov. 9 Truth Social post. "We are taking in Trillions of Dollars and will soon begin paying down our ENORMOUS DEBT, $37 Trillion."

How seriously should people take his pledge?

https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/nov/10/Trump-tariff-dividend-2
000-stimulus/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, November 12, 2025 9:52 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Tax breaks in President Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill” will primarily benefit high-net-worth individuals and those with high incomes. But what is the definition of "wealthy"? Zane Sanchez, a tax manager with the accounting and business advisory firm Snyder Cohn, says it could be considered anyone making more than $200,000 or $250,000 for married couples filing jointly. "That's around the point where a lot of these provisions start to kick in."

Below is a look at six key provisions in the bill that largely favor upper-income individuals and families:

https://www.npr.org/2025/11/05/nx-s1-5590112/trump-beautiful-bill-taxe
s-republican-rich-wealthy

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, November 12, 2025 1:29 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Crossing the line? Are you kidding me?

I've archived so many assassination fantasies, calls for assassination, threats against other members here and suggestions that they kill themselves out of Second that I stopped bothering archiving them. They've become trite at this point, just like all 3 of his regular personal insults he'll hurl out on a daily basis when he's being destroyed by facts.

Neither Ted nor Second have spent a single second of their lives engaging in any form of self-reflection.

They are completely oblivious to how evil they have become.

From what I read, Nazis and ordinary Germans who weren't ambitious enough to join the party saw themselves as Heroes, and the Allies as Evil (and Jews, too!). How could the Allies' firebombing of Germany not be evil? How could allowing Jews not be evil? Translating into a Trumptard analogy, how can allowing illegal aliens to live in America not be evil? How can allowing a Communist Muslim mayor of NYNY not be evil? How can allowing speedboats carrying drugs not be evil? That is in reference to Trump ordering boats bombed and their crews killed. Not once has a Democratic President ordered the execution of criminals BEFORE trial, but Trump has many, many times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_United_States_military_strikes_on_a
lleged_drug_traffickers

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, November 12, 2025 1:29 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Donald Trump Is a Lamer Duck Than Ever

Even though he doesn’t want you to think so

By Mark Leibovich | November 12, 2025, 10:16 AM ET

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2025/11/trump-lame-duck-third-ter
m-prospects/684899/

For a president who wants to project vigor and command at all times, Donald Trump made the worst possible spectacle of himself in the Oval Office last Thursday.

It came in the form of two images captured during a press event to announce cheaper weight-loss drugs. The first materialized when a participant fainted and several officials on hand rushed over. Not Trump, however, who, after turning to look at the fallen man, stood a few feet away at the Resolute Desk with his back to the action, wearing an indifferent expression. This was pointedly reflected in news photos that instantly went viral.

The second image, less noticed but possibly more damning, was memorialized just beforehand: As Mehmet Oz, the administration’s head of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, delivered remarks, Trump appeared to be nodding off at his desk. The Washington Post, in keeping with its dogged Watergate-era traditions, undertook a thorough “analysis of multiple video feeds” and confirmed that, indeed, the 79-year-old president had “spent nearly 20 minutes apparently battling to keep his eyes open.”

“He put his hand on his temple,” the Post investigation concluded. “He slouched in his chair.”

The White House denied that the president had been asleep, echoing Trump’s past sensitivities toward perceived somnolence. But there was something else going on here. The administration has sought to portray Trump as the main driver of all events at all times—potent, essential, and fully engaged. If there has been one unified message coming out of this White House, it’s been that of a presidency in perpetual motion. Yet Trump has looked much less daunting and invincible in recent days. He has been criticized for appearing checked out and oblivious to the economic hardships facing Americans, a sentiment reinforced by voters last Tuesday. Above all, Trump, who is not eligible to run for reelection in 2028—at least that’s what some people think—is loath to be seen as a lame duck. And yet, he is a lamer duck now than he was just a short while ago.

Last week was rough for Trump in that regard. Republicans suffered election routs in the Virginia and New Jersey governor’s races, as well as in a statewide ballot initiative pushed by California Governor Gavin Newsom. It wasn’t only that Democrats prevailed by massive margins or that the results confirmed that Trump’s second-term act was playing terribly with a critical mass of Americans, including many of those who’d voted for him. The GOP’s losses suddenly made Trump look vulnerable. By my informal estimation (without the benefit of “multiple video feeds”), “lame duck” was applied more often to Trump last week than in any prior stretch of his second term.

“Donald Trump Enters His Lame Duck Era,” declared one post-election headline in Politico. The accompanying article cataloged recent signs of Republican defiance of Trump. It led with a scene in which the president summoned Senate Republicans to the White House and demanded that they eliminate the filibuster. “Upon returning to the Capitol, the senators made it very clear: they planned to blow Trump off,” according to Politico. (Mike Rounds of South Dakota apparently “laughed out loud.”)

No officeholder welcomes being labeled a lame duck. From its earliest adoption, the phrase has never been meant as a term of flattery. Senator Lazarus Powell of Kentucky is credited with the first political usage, in 1863, when he described the U.S. Court of Claims as “a receptacle of ‘lame ducks’ or broken down politicians.” Over time, lame duck evolved into more of a time marker, referring to an elected official completing their final phase in office.

That’s the clinical definition, at least. But lame duck also carries deeper connotations of diminishing cachet, relating to a leader’s lost status and creeping powerlessness. These notions are especially toxic to Trump. Since returning to the White House, he has governed with unchecked abandon, enjoying the total compliance and indulgence of his party. Nowhere has this been more evident than among Republicans in Congress, who have given every impression of living in abject fear of Trump, his loyalty enforcers, and his voters.

It is not difficult to see how being discussed as a weakened short-timer would inflict particular psychic injury upon Trump. Such a status represents an intolerable affront not only to his own grandiosity but also to his political power. Trump and his allies have worked to foster a sense of unquestioned authority and even permanence. Whether or not he is serious about running for a third term, he has been happy to publicly entertain the prospect. “Most any Republican is too intimidated to suggest he might not run again,” Ed Rogers, a longtime GOP lobbyist and former aide to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush, told me. Having this unconstitutional gambit in circulation became a strategic taunt after a while, “to keep people glancing at each other, asking, ‘Could he do it?’” Rogers said. “This has caused a pause on the traditional creep of lame-duckedness.”

Trump was more definitive when the third-term prospect came up last month, admitting that he wouldn’t be allowed to run. But Tuesday’s election results struck a blow against his sense of almighty armor. “Trump’s Superman mythology just had 100 pounds of kryptonite shoved down its throat,” Mike Murphy, a vehemently anti-Trump Republican media consultant, told me.

Beyond the undertones of lost influence, being a lame duck can also suggest a president distracted, disengaged, and biding time. Again, these notions would seem anathema to everything Trump wants to convey. Theoretically, at least.

Voters keep identifying the high cost of living as their chief concern. Trump, meanwhile, has displayed a Marie Antoinette–like indifference to the economic struggles that so many Americans keep mentioning. He has recently devoted time to overseeing the construction of a new White House patio and ballroom, hosting a Great Gatsby–themed party at Mar-a-Lago, and reportedly trying to have the future home stadium of the Washington Commanders named after him.

“His gold-leaf excess and ‘Let ’em eat cake’ tone-deafness will likely wear ever thinner,” Mark Updegrove, a presidential historian and the head of the LBJ Foundation, told me. Updegrove, the author of a book titled Second Acts: Presidential Lives and Legacies After the White House, predicted that Trump would never “back off his ballroom ambitions,” regardless of how they might be perceived. Trump clearly enjoys the idea that he can build and adorn as he pleases. He will insist on these projects, Updegrove said, “like a toddler unwilling to surrender a lollipop.”

Trump’s Oval Office photo snafu notwithstanding, even casual observers would expect that he will do everything possible to keep himself at center stage for as long as he can. Histrionics are definitely possible. “Like the mob boss with terminal cancer” is Murphy’s comparison, by which he means that Trump will be sure to make himself dangerous to anyone who questions his full authority and treats him as a lame duck.

This almost certainly will extend to the 2028 campaign. Trump almost certainly will insist on full deference from any Republican hoping to succeed him. He almost certainly will devote zero energy to things like “building the Republican bench” or “grooming his successor” or “extending gracious gestures to his worthy Democratic adversaries.”

And the term lame duck will almost certainly remain verboten around the White House until the minute Trump departs the premises for good—assuming that he ever does.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, November 12, 2025 2:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by second:
Donald Trump Is a Lamer Duck Than Ever

Even though he doesn’t want you to think so

Oh yeah?

Then why did the Democrats cave exactly when I told you they would?

They sure aren't playing like they've got a winning hand.

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For all that I've blessed, and all that I've wronged. In dreams until my death, I will wander on.

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Wednesday, November 12, 2025 2:48 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Crossing the line? Are you kidding me?

I've archived so many assassination fantasies, calls for assassination, threats against other members here and suggestions that they kill themselves out of Second that I stopped bothering archiving them. They've become trite at this point, just like all 3 of his regular personal insults he'll hurl out on a daily basis when he's being destroyed by facts.

Neither Ted nor Second have spent a single second of their lives engaging in any form of self-reflection.

They are completely oblivious to how evil they have become.
From what I read, Nazis and ordinary Germans who weren't ambitious enough to join the party saw themselves as Heroes, and the Allies as Evil (and Jews, too!). How could the Allies' firebombing of Germany not be evil? How could allowing Jews not be evil? Translating into a Trumptard analogy, how can allowing illegal aliens to live in America not be evil? How can allowing a Communist Muslim mayor of NYNY not be evil? How can allowing speedboats carrying drugs not be evil? That is in reference to Trump ordering boats bombed and their crews killed. Not once has a Democratic President ordered the execution of criminals BEFORE trial, but Trump has many, many times.

Wow. Talk about a false equivalency.

You're deranged.

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Wednesday, November 12, 2025 2:51 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Well, whaddya know:

Trump now just as unpopular as Biden during inflation surge
Difference between the share of Americans who approve and disapprove of the way the president is handling "prices and inflation," percentage points.

First off, this isn't even truth. Once again, your propagandists are cherry picking polls to get to those "facts" for their idiot readers.

And the second thing is that Joe Biden* wrecked everything when things were going well and made it worse for the next 3 years straight. 95% of the higher prices than we're paying 5 years ago was all under Joe Biden*'s watch.

That's the bitch about inflation. Inflation that you straight-up denied was even happening for 4 years. Nobody wants to hear a fucking word out of Paul Krugman today after all the lies and incorrect predictions.

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Wednesday, November 12, 2025 3:11 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Donald Trump Is a Lamer Duck Than Ever

Even though he doesn’t want you to think so

Oh yeah?

Then why did the Democrats cave exactly when I told you they would?

They sure aren't playing like they've got a winning hand.

It was NOT the Democratic Party caving; it was the crazies and the assholes who caved. John Fetterman, poster child for mental illness, caved. Dick Durbin, tired, worn-out, and fragile asshole, caved. I can confidently say that almost none of the Senate Democrats nowadays would have the energy to go to war against the German Nazis, no matter what atrocities were occurring in Europe in the 1930s. The modern-day Democrats are so over-civilized that they would be unable to do something vicious, violent and irreversible, like killing historic Nazis or modern Nazis, another group of semi-humans well deserving to die screaming for mercy. Democrats are too polite, passive, decent, and uncertain about the borderline between good/evil to kill their own food, let alone kill their own enemies.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/8-democrats-voted-with-republica
ns-on-a-shutdown-deal-heres-what-theyve-said-about-why

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, November 12, 2025 3:35 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Donald Trump Is a Lamer Duck Than Ever

Even though he doesn’t want you to think so

Oh yeah?

Then why did the Democrats cave exactly when I told you they would?

They sure aren't playing like they've got a winning hand.
It was NOT the Democratic Party caving;

Yes. It was.

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it was the crazies and the assholes who caved.

They are all crazies and assholes. These 8 were just crazies and assholes that you happen to disagree with.

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John Fetterman, poster child for mental illness, caved.

What? You guys used to love Fetterman a few years ago.

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Dick Durbin, tired, worn-out, and fragile asshole, caved.

Okay. You've got me there.

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I can confidently say that almost none of the Senate Democrats nowadays would have the energy to go to war against the German Nazis, no matter what atrocities were occurring in Europe in the 1930s. The modern-day Democrats are so over-civilized that they would be unable to do something vicious, violent and irreversible, like killing historic Nazis or modern Nazis, another group of semi-humans well deserving to die screaming for mercy. Democrats are too polite, passive, decent, and uncertain about the borderline between good/evil to kill their own food, let alone kill their own enemies.

I nominate you for the job, loser.

It's not like you have anything else going on in your sad, lonely little retirement.

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Wednesday, November 12, 2025 3:41 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

And I've already covered why those 5 were chosen to vote along with the 3 who were already going to support the end of the shutdown 2 days ago in the SNAP thread, where I also made my correct prediction about when Democrats would cave...

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=67191

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

If the fact that Hillary Clinton's running mate Tim Kaine was one of the 5 Democrats that joined Fetterman and the other two Democrats siding with Republicans on the Shutdown didn't make you raise an eyebrow, the fact that Dick Durbin was on the list of Democratic defectors should tell EVERYONE all they need to know about this terrible show the Democrats just put on. Dick Durbin already voted against Republicans 15 times on this shutdown, and if nobody higher up ordered him to do otherwise, he'd just keep right on doing that until the sun implodes. Dick Durbin hates Trump more than JB Pritzker and Brandon Johnson.

So... What do all 5 of the Democratic Senators that jumped the fence last night have in common?

They're all old and on their way out.

Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois
Age: 81
Retiring from Senate next year...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Durbin

Sen. Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire
Age: 77
Retiring from Senate next year...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Shaheen

Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia
Age: 67
No plans on retiring yet, but dude is a very old looking 67 and probably wouldn't mind a forced exit out of politics since he probably never would do it of his own volition since the money and perks are just too good.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Kaine

Sen. Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire
Age: 67
Another person who was eligible for SS benefits a few years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_Hassan

Sen. Jacky Rosen of Nevada
Age: 68
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacky_Rosen
Ditto...

Sacrificial lambs, the entire lot of them.

Look at MSNBC and all the Lefty shitrags ripping them to shreds over it today.

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Wednesday, November 12, 2025 4:15 PM

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Have you ever wondered why people are evil? Evil as in #RootingForPutin? Or voting for Trump?
Here is the least evil act I can find, along with the reasons the people gave for what they did:

Why Don’t People Return Their Shopping Carts? A (Somewhat) Scientific Investigation

By Hannah B. Waldfogel | November 10, 2025

https://behavioralscientist.org/why-dont-people-return-their-shopping-
carts-a-somewhat-scientific-investigation/

Why don’t people return their carts?

People had all sorts of reactions to being asked to do the right thing (see Figure 1). There were those who deflected, challenging the question itself rather than answering it. Do you work here? Are you the cart police? Do you represent this company? Who are you? Can I see your ID? Do you have any authority? Who do you work for? Who do you think you are? Why don’t you get a real job?

Some responded with anger and aggression. They yelled, cursed, and mocked. Some threatened to (or did) call law enforcement. Others escalated further, brandishing weapons like guns, tasers, or knives. “I’m gonna slash your face,” warned one man. “Why don’t I kick your ass?” asked another. A third shopper told the Cart Narc, “This is how you get killed.” If only returning the cart stirred as much passion as did refusing to.

Then there were the many, many excuses. In over half of the encounters I watched, shoppers provided at least one justification for their choice to abandon the cart (see Figure 2).

Many invoked entitlement, sometimes mentioning an identity they believed exempted them from common decency. “I worked at Safeway for lots of years and people left their carts all the time,” one man said. Another explained his choice to leave his cart by saying, “After 40 years of working retail grocery, I’ve earned it.” Earned what, exactly? The right to not pick up after yourself?

There were those who cited physical limitations barring them from cart return. “I’m 72 years old. I can’t walk that far,” explained a man after pushing his cart to the furthest edge of the lot. Another shopper clarified her choice to leave the cart in the middle of a handicap parking spot by mentioning, “I’m handicapped myself.” And one woman, upon being confronted about leaving her cart, declared, “I have really bad vertigo,” before getting behind the wheel and driving away. To be clear: Disabilities deserve accommodation. But if you could push the full cart to your car, why couldn’t you return the empty one?

Other people were simply too busy to return their carts. “I’m over an hour late to my own kid’s birthday party,” revealed one hurried shopper. “We have somewhere we need to be,” another alleged, before spending the next eight minutes arguing with the Cart Narc about how he didn’t have time to return his cart. Some mentioned inconvenience. “Them carts don’t even roll,” one shopper complained, after going out of his way to dig the wheels of his cart straight into grass and dirt.

Many justified their behavior by invoking norms and pointing to other cart abandoners. “Everyone else puts them there,” one shopper said, leaving his cart with a gaggle of similarly unreturned ones. “The culture around here is doing it,” insisted another, as if not returning one’s cart were a local tradition. This reasoning—everyone else does it—pairs best with a juice box and a timeout. If everyone else jumped off a bridge, would you?

Another type of excuse invoked other people by shifting responsibility (or blame) to others. Many shoppers pointed to their choice to leave the cart as a form of job stability or creation. “They pay someone to collect them all” explained one man. Another insisted that returning the cart is selfish because, “You’re putting someone out of a job.” It’s true that many stores do employ people to gather carts, but the job is to collect them from designated return areas—not to chase them down across the lot like loose cattle.

In some interactions I watched, people feigned ignorance. Like the woman who was unaware that carts shouldn’t be left on the curb: “I don’t know where we’re supposed to put them. I typically stop at Ralph’s.” As if basic decency is wildly store-specific.

My personal favorite justifications were the ones that invoked habitual good behavior, explaining their choice to not return their cart by saying they always put their cart away. “Ninety-nine percent of the time I put it back,” insisted a shopper after not putting his back.

But, between the shouting and the excuses, there were people who, upon being asked to return their cart, did. Some weren’t happy about it. “There’s too much going on in the world to pay attention to that,” one man grumbled while wheeling his back to the corral. Another threatened to break the Cart Narc’s arm before, incredibly, returning his cart. Others returned theirs silently. A few even owned up to their mistake. “I just got Cart Narc-ed! I apologize,” said one shopper. (Watch one cart abandoner’s mea culpa below).

What does behavioral science say?

We can also look to existing research in the social and behavioral sciences for insight into why people don’t return their carts.

Much more at https://behavioralscientist.org/why-dont-people-return-their-shopping-
carts-a-somewhat-scientific-investigation/

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Have you ever wondered why people are evil? Evil as in #RootingForPutin? Or voting for Trump?
Here is the least evil act I can find, along with the reasons the people gave for what they did:

Why Don’t People Return Their Shopping Carts? A (Somewhat) Scientific Investigation

I always return my shopping carts. I'm not an entitled, self-centered Democrat voting dipshit.

You and I both know that every one of these people in the article voted Democrat.

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For all that I've blessed, and all that I've wronged. In dreams until my death, I will wander on.

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Have you ever wondered why people are evil? Evil as in #RootingForPutin? Or voting for Trump?
Here is the least evil act I can find, along with the reasons the people gave for what they did:

Why Don’t People Return Their Shopping Carts? A (Somewhat) Scientific Investigation

I always return my shopping carts. I'm not an entitled, self-centered Democrat voting dipshit.

You and I both know that every one of these people in the article voted Democrat.

I do NOT believe you. What I do believe is that Trumptards are fundamentally (#RootinForPutin) evil, as is Trump. The Trumptards suspect Trump raped those children, because that is what they would do in Trump's position, so they are protecting him from the consequences to protect themselves from the consequences of supporting Evil and being rapists themselves, if given the opportunity with little risk of being caught:

MAGA goes quiet on the "Epstein files"

By Tal Axelrod | November 12, 2025

https://www.axios.com/2025/11/12/maga-epstein-files-trump

Some of the biggest "Epstein files" fire-breathers from recent years were silent Wednesday after Democrats released a trove of new emails that included mentions of President Trump.

Why it matters: What started as a conspiracy-laden search for answers against the deep state has turned (for some) into a defensive posture to protect Trump from two of the right's biggest bogeymen — Democrats, and the media.

What they're saying: Mentions of Epstein were sparse across MAGA social media accounts and podcasts in the hours after the email dump.

Elon Musk, the billionaire X owner and on-again, off-again Trump ally, posted nothing Wednesday morning after lamenting in July over a supposed lack of transparency by the administration over the investigation into the late Jeffrey Epstein.
Steve Bannon, the influential "War Room" host, did not discuss Epstein on the morning edition of his podcast after framing the push for Epstein disclosures in July as a core part of the fight against the "deep state."

Zoom out: "As soon as the legacy media suddenly started caring about it, and only about one person in particular, it became sus to MAGA," said The National Pulse's Raheem Kassam.

Attitudes started shifting when The Wall Street Journal reported in July that Trump wrote Epstein a birthday note saying "may every day be another wonderful secret" — inside the outline of a naked woman.
A picture of the note was later published to confirm the report, but MAGA's tide had already turned.
"I'd say MAGA/base looks at Democrats as corrupt and untrustworthy messengers, and anything they do damages credibility of the message," Breitbart News Washington Bureau Chief Matt Boyle texted Axios. He noted Trump kicked Epstein out of his club before his crimes were known.

Catch up quick: Democrats on the House Oversight Committee released emails Wednesday in which Epstein, who died in prison in 2019, wrote that Trump "knew about the girls" and that Trump had "spent hours at my house" with one victim.

Trump has denied any involvement in Epstein's crimes and said he and Epstein had a falling-out over unrelated issues.

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said Wednesday that Democrats "selectively leaked emails to the liberal media to create a fake narrative to smear President Trump."
"The Democrats are trying to bring up the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax again because they'll do anything at all to deflect on how badly they've done on the Shutdown, and so many other subjects. Only a very bad, or stupid, Republican would fall into that trap," Trump added in a Truth Social post.

Hours after Democrats released their documents, House Republicans released their own.

What's next: The swearing-in of Rep. Adelita Grijalva (D-Ariz.) on Wednesday will allow Democrats and a handful of Republicans to force a House vote on mandating the Justice Department release files from its case into Epstein.

Reps. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) and Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) are leading the charge for Republicans, though it is largely fueled by Democrats.
House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) says the bill is unnecessary given a similar inquiry by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.
If it passes a House vote, the measure is not expected to pass the GOP-held Senate.

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Cheap crap passed off as "REAL gold!" by Trump

Donald Trump appeared to deny speculation that the '24 karat gold' decorations in his revamped Oval Office came from Home Depot

Donald Trump showed off the '24-karat gold' decorations in his newly revamped Oval Office during a tour this week - and took the opportunity to swat down online rumors they came from Home Depot.

The president invited Fox News' Laura Ingraham for a walk-through of his redesigned White House while on a break from a sit-down interview.

He proudly pointed out the gilded details - which had been mocked online as resembling $58 trinkets from the hardware store - saying: 'You know one thing with gold? You can't imitate gold. There's no paint that imitates gold.'

The conservative host then directly asked the president: 'So these aren't, like, from Home Depot or something?'

'No, this is not Home Depot stuff. This is not Home Depot,' Trump replied.

Ingraham captioned the video on Facebook: 'In the Oval Office with President Trump and can confirm that it is REAL gold!'

The president has previously bragged about redecorating the Oval Office with '24 karat' gold spectacles, including gold medallions over the fireplace, Rococo mirrors hung over the doors, and golden eagles perched on the office side tables.

Nine months into his second term, the golden trinkets are more noticeable during visits from foreign leaders and press conferences.

Donald Trump appeared to deny speculation that the '24 karat gold' decorations in his revamped Oval Office came from Home Depot

Trump claimed he took care of the bill himself for these decorations without costing the American taxpayer a single cent. (No bill was shown to prove that Trump paid. No cancelled checks from Trump's bank account to prove how much he paid.)

However, recent social media posts suggest the decorations are sold by Home Depot as DIY accessories marketed as 'polyurethane appliqué' for $58.

The Daily Mail could not independently verify the claims in the report.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-bristles-as-laura-ingrah
am-awkwardly-asks-if-gold-adorning-oval-office-is-from-home-depot/ar-AA1QgG0R

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gov.newsom.press.office

Trump: Newsom is a horrible governor. If he ran the country like that, our country would be gone.

NEWSOM: YES. I DON'T RUN CALIFORNIA THE WAY HE RUNS AMERICA. I DON'T BUILD BALLROOMS, BAILOUT ARGENTINA, STARVE AMERICANS, BASE POLICY ON MY TERROR OF WINDMILLS & THE MYSTERY OF MAGNETS, AND I DON'T ATTACK OUR CITIES. I HAVE THE 4TH LARGEST ECONOMY. HE HAS THE 4TH LARGEST CANKLES.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2650312661859103/posts/429217890433912
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So Republican congressman Thomas Massie stands up for Epstein victims, and Trump immediately goes live on the air to say he's an "insurgent" who should be "taken out."
WHAT ON EARTH IS IN THOSE FILES?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-urges-navy-veteran-cha
llenge-gop-rep-thomas-massie-kentucky-seat-rcna238300

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AVERAGE HEALTH CARE COSTS IN THE UNITED STATES:
Giving birth? $18,000
Cancer treatment? $150,000
One month ICU stay? Between $30k and $150k.
And that’s NOT including copays, deductibles, interest and all the other hoops you have to jump through.

Cost in Canada for all of these? $0
Cost in the UK? $0
Cost in Australia? $0

And yet Republicans just shut down the government in order to make health care EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE for the average American, just to give their billionaire pals yet ANOTHER giant tax cut.

https://imgur.com/gallery/f-NDsDQar

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The Republican Brain Doesn’t Want To Understand Health Care

For 15 years we have heard the same lies and misrepresentations

By Paul Krugman | Nov 13, 2025

https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/the-republican-brain-doesnt-want

There are almost 150 million dwelling units in America. Most homes are covered by insurance, and most home insurance covers losses due to fire. Yet in a normal year there are fewer than 400,000 home fires. Even if we allow for the fact that some homeowners don’t have insurance and some policies don’t cover fire damage, the vast majority of homeowners are paying for fire coverage that they will never use.

Clearly, this is a massive waste of money, a huge giveaway to the insurance industry.

OK, presumably almost no one believes that. While it’s unlikely that your house will burn down, losing your house to fire would be a crushing financial blow if you are uninsured. So we all pay premiums to protect ourselves against disaster. All Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac loans require home insurance.

Health insurance operates on the same principle. Without health insurance, you are at risk of a catastrophic financial blow if you get sick and require hospitalization. Moreover, even if you don’t require hospitalization, you are more likely to avoid getting regular check-ups and preventative care, thereby making it more likely that you will indeed suffer a health crisis and, possibly, death.

Yet the shutdown drama made it clear, once again, that Republicans, from Donald Trump on down, refuse to understand this basic point. Or if they do and say so publicly, like Marjorie Taylor Greene and say so, they become a pariah within the party. But most prefer to behave like the hapless and probably doomed New York Republican Rep. Mark Lawler, and blame Democrats for having forced the issue into the headlines.

But the fact that Republicans have been misrepresenting how health insurance works since Obamacare was first proposed in 2009 is a testament to their cruelty and intentional ignorance. For example, Trump’s opening salvo against the Democrats demand for continuation of the ACA subsidies blasted “money sucking insurance companies”, claiming that the subsidies should be sent directly to taxpayers so that Americans can “PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER HEALTHCARE” – that is, demanding that they pay doctors and hospitals out of pocket:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE, and have money left over. In other words, take from the BIG, BAD Insurance Companies, give it to the people, and terminate, per Dollar spent, the worst Healthcare anywhere in the World, ObamaCare. Unrelated, we must still terminate the Filibuster!
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As I explained above, this won’t work for the same reason homeowners need fire insurance: There’s a small risk that you may face extremely high costs, and you need protection in case that happens. In addition, lack of insurance is likely to make you sicker, thus more likely to require higher future health expenses and diminished quality of life.

In any given year, most people face low or modest health care costs, but a small number of people face huge bills. Here’s the distribution of health spending in 2022:

https://www.kff.org/health-costs/health-policy-101-health-care-costs-a
nd-affordability/?entry=table-of-contents-how-does-health-care-spending-vary-across-the-population

Half the population spent almost nothing on health care, while 5 percent of the population accounted for half of spending, and 1 percent for more than a fifth. Average spending within the top 5 percent was more than $67,000; within the top one percent it was more than $147,000. Furthermore, people who develop severe health problems often find themselves having to lay out large sums for multiple years.

Only the very wealthy — not even the 1 percent, more like the 0.1 percent — can afford to pay high medical costs out of pocket. So modern health care depends on insurance to pay the really big bills. In addition, having health insurance has also shown to make people healthier in general, because they are less likely to forgo regular care.

And even if you resent “money sucking Insurance Companies,” as Trump pretends to, it’s overwhelmingly bad policy to insist that people pay their medical costs directly, for two reasons. First, a large potion of health care costs are incurred by people who need immediate urgent care and therefore can’t go shopping for medical care. In other words, I can’t research my hospital and procedure options while lying on an ambulance gurney, with an IV stuck in my arm. Two, medicine is a complex and technical subject, beyond the grasp of anyone without medical training. So the idea that medical care should be treated like a commercial product to be consumed by medically sophisticated customers is not only silly – it’s dangerous.

So consumer-driven healthcare, which is what Trump is pushing, is an irresponsibly destructive idea, a zombie policy that the Republicans have been touting for 15 years, without ever acknowledging its flaws. Furthermore, in their zeal to undermine Obamacare, Republicans will resurrect the monster that bedeviled so many Americans before it was adopted: insurance companies’ denial of care to those who need it most and the affordability problem.

Obamacare was designed to address the problem of profit-seeking insurance companies, who have strong incentives to identify people who really need health care and then deny them coverage. Before Obamacare, insurers routinely denied coverage to Americans with preexisting medical conditions or charged them prohibitively high premiums. And this aspect of Obamacare is hugely popular: by large majorities, voters say it is important that insurance companies cover pre-existing conditions.

https://www.kff.org/affordable-care-act/5-charts-about-public-opinion-
on-the-affordable-care-act/

One way to solve the “denial of care based on pre-existing conditions” problem is to bypass profit-making insurance companies and have the government pay medical bills directly, as Medicare and Medicaid do. But if we want to maintain a system of private health insurance, we must regulate insurers to prevent discrimination based on medical history. Yet that alone is not enough. We also have to ensure that relatively healthy people buy health insurance; because if they don’t, only those who are sick or have pre-existing conditions will get insurance, forcing insurers to charge extremely high premiums to cover their costs.

So what’s needed to make a system of private health insurance work is both regulation of insurers and policies to make premiums affordable for healthy people through incentives such as significant tax credits or premium subsidies.

This is basically what Obamacare does. Yet for 15 years Republicans have been promising that, any moment now, they will come up with something better to replace it. Years ago, I might have conceded that this was due to Republican ignorance. But when even Majorie Taylor Greene gets it, I have to chalk this up to inbred cruelty and willful mis-representation. As Jared Bernstein says, Republicans have lost the ability to think about policies that solve actual problems. Now it’s all a display of fealty to Dear Leader.

My guess is that the burgeoning health insurance crisis will hurt the G.O.P. and Trump politically. And the Democrats, who despite their flaws still understand policy, should be relentless in publicizing how Republicans are hell-bent on destroying the health of Americans.

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