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Trump Is Destroying Everything He Touches

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Wednesday, October 8, 2025 3:54 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

What part of this don't you get, stupid?

If the world economy goes down the shit tubes, the people who are currently holding the gold are going to keep that gold and it ain't going to make one lick of difference how much gold your fake portfolio says you've got in there.

You might as well be pissing your money away on Bitcoin before somebody yanks the rug out from under you.

And if you have actual gold in your hands, good luck keeping it once somebody else knows you've got some. You won't ever be able to spend it anywhere without putting yourself and anybody you live with in danger.

So have fun with your fake and/or worthless gold either way, dipshit.

The world is NOT going down the drain, but the price of gold is rising because of Trump flushing the Federal government's reputation for reliably backing U.S. Treasury bonds. Central banks are selling U.S. Bonds and buying gold instead. The banks are not waiting for Trump to arbitrarily and capriciously zero the value of the US bonds held by foreign central banks. Trump could do that crazy thing if the notion took over his mind, at least until the Senate removes him from power.

Do I have to mention that Trump has been bankrupt many times, divorced many times, convicted of crimes many times, sued many times, and raped many children because he is not a steady and reliable person?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, October 8, 2025 5:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Talking with you and your always-shifting goalposts is a pointless endeavor.

I'm just going to go back to calling you stupid without trying to explain anything because you're a mindless gooning cultist.

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Wednesday, October 8, 2025 8:50 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Talking with you and your always-shifting goalposts is a pointless endeavor.

I'm just going to go back to calling you stupid without trying to explain anything because you're a mindless gooning cultist.

6ix, see if you can twist this story into a bizarre misinterpretation of reality. Then you can congratulate yourself for being smarter than the reporter or me. Finally, call everyone a cultist and a sufferer of Trump Derangement Syndrome. I know you can do it because it's the only thing you do after flunking out of college when you felt smarter than all professors:

Trump Labor Department Says His Immigration Raids Are Causing a Food Crisis

In a filing in the Federal Register, the Labor Department argues there are “immediate dangers to the American food supply” due to a lack of migrant agricultural workers.

By David Dayen | October 8, 2025

https://prospect.org/politics/trump-labor-department-immigration-ICE-f
ood-crisis/

The Department of Labor’s new rule cutting farmworker wages bluntly states that souped-up immigration enforcement has devastated the agricultural workforce and created a significant “risk of supply shock-induced food shortages,” according to a document filed in the Federal Register last week. The document also indicates that American workers are simply not interested in and do not have the skills to perform agricultural jobs, at odds with Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins’s claim that the farm workforce will soon be 100 percent American.

“The near total cessation of the inflow of illegal aliens combined with the lack of an available legal workforce, results in significant disruptions to production costs and threatening the stability of domestic food production and prices for U.S consumers,” the document says, adding that “this threat will grow” given new federal funding for immigration enforcement under the One Big Beautiful Bill Act.

The rule seeks to bring in guest workers through the H-2A program at lower wages, potentially reducing wages across the spectrum for all farmworkers, regardless of legal status. But in order to do so quickly, Trump’s Department of Labor is surprisingly citing the downside risks of its own president’s mass deportation program, arguing that it is causing “immediate dangers to the American food supply.”

“They’re sort of, I guess refreshingly, explicit about how this is going to go down,” said Daniel Costa, an attorney with the Economic Policy Institute (EPI) who tracks the H-2A program. But this claim of mass carnage from immigration has a very particular intent: the only way out of the crisis, the Labor Department states, is to hire many more foreign workers to pick U.S. crops at lower wages, a direct transfer of income from workers in the fields to their agribusiness employers.

Only one of two things can be true: Either Trump’s Labor Department actually believes that Trump’s immigration enforcement is destroying the agricultural sector and threatening food security, or they are pretending this threat is real in order to crush wages for both foreign and domestic agricultural workers. Neither look particularly good.

THE RULE IN QUESTION CONCERNS WHAT IS KNOWN as the Adverse Effect Wage Rate (AEWR), which is set for H-2A agricultural workers. H-2A gives one-year visas to foreign nationals to work in agriculture. They must work for the grower who sponsors the visa, and they lack basic worker protections that domestic workers have, like the ability to get overtime pay. The program has been called a form of slavery by critics in the past.

H-2A, which was established in the 1980s, has evolved from an occasional program to fill gaps in the workforce to one increasingly relied on by employers. About one in five agricultural workers is on an H-2A visa, nearly a ten-fold increase from 20 years ago. While employers are supposed to advertise for U.S. workers to fill jobs first, this expansion of H-2A has continued virtually unabated. There is no cap on the program, so agribusiness can bring in an unlimited number of foreign workers.

Because H-2A workers don’t have bargaining rights, federal guidelines effectively set their wages. The AEWR is essentially a minimum wage for these foreign workers, which is supposed to be at a level that doesn’t create an “adverse effect” for U.S. workers in the industry. It is published every year (with different rates for each state) using a methodology that previously was derived by the Farm Labor Survey, an initiative of the Department of Agriculture that was discontinued by the Trump administration in August.

The new interim final rule changes the methodology for determining the AEWR in the absence of the Farm Labor Survey. It’s complicated, but the rule proposes that the Occupational Employment and Wage Statistics (OEWS) survey operated by the Bureau of Labor Statistics will be the primary data used to determine wages. As Costa points out, this survey does not actually talk to farm employers but farm labor contractors, who offer wages at lower levels than direct farm hiring does. “It naturally means the wages are lower,” Costa said.

In addition, the new rule allows farm employers to charge H-2A workers for their housing, which was not allowed before. “It’s a way for employers to continue to house workers and also charge them, and bring down effective wages,” said Marcos Lopez of the Labor and Community Center at the University of California, Davis.

The result, a replay of cuts to H-2A minimum wages that the Trump administration enacted at the end of his first term, will be aggregate wage cuts of $2.46 billion annually, as the United Farm Workers point out. American agricultural workers, who must compete in the same marketplace for jobs, will also likely see significant cuts to their own pay, experts said. In some states like California, Washington, New York, and Arizona, the resulting wages for H-2A workers will be well below state minimum wages.

“The Trump wage cut is a catastrophe for American workers in agriculture who growers intend to replace with cheap and exploitable foreign guest workers,” said Teresa Romero, president of the United Farm Workers.

Employers have been pushing for the lower wages, claiming the AEWR was too high even as they increasingly turned to H-2A workers to fill open positions.

But what’s really interesting are the justifications made for this change, which explicitly blame Trump’s immigration enforcement for creating massive labor shortages in agriculture.

Much more at https://prospect.org/politics/trump-labor-department-immigration-ICE-f
ood-crisis/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, October 8, 2025 10:19 PM

THG

Keep it real please

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/-she-s-listening-to-her-consti
tuents-why-mtg-is-breaking-with-gop-over-health-care-249350213545

Projected premium increases healthcare

West Virginia 387%

Wyoming 382%

Alaska 346%

Tennesse 320%

Mississippi 314%

Texas 289%

South Carolina 285%

Alabama 284%

South Dakkota 235%

North Dakota 234%

Talk about inflation aye signym?

T

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Wednesday, October 8, 2025 10:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/-she-s-listening-to-her-consti
tuents-why-mtg-is-breaking-with-gop-over-health-care-249350213545

Projected premium increases healthcare

West Virginia 387%

Wyoming 382%

Alaska 346%

Tennesse 320%

Mississippi 314%

Texas 289%

South Carolina 285%

Alabama 284%

South Dakkota 235%

North Dakota 234%

We will see what happens, I guess.

If that's true, Republicans will not win the midterms and they deserve to lose.

There's no reason for anybody to believe right now that it is true because everything they've ever said has been wrong up to this point, but if it is true that's the end of Republicans running things.

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Wednesday, October 8, 2025 10:23 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Talking with you and your always-shifting goalposts is a pointless endeavor.

I'm just going to go back to calling you stupid without trying to explain anything because you're a mindless gooning cultist.
6ix, see if you can twist this story into a bizarre misinterpretation of reality. Then you can congratulate yourself for being smarter than the reporter or me.

I take no pride, nor do I congratulate myself for being smarter than you or David.

It would be no different than me patting myself on the back for being smarter than a kid with Down Syndrome or Ted.

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Wednesday, October 8, 2025 10:34 PM

THG

Keep it real please

Smart people don't flunk out of junior college Gilligan. And you did it twice. Can you spell narcissist?

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Wednesday, October 8, 2025 10:53 PM

THG

Keep it real please

Brazil’s beef exports to China surge as Trump’s tariffs shift global demand

Brazil’s beef exports to China are on the rise as part of the Asian nation’s larger strategy to avoid agricultural goods from the United States amid their ongoing trade dispute.

Brazil’s beef exports to China rose 38.3 percent in September from a year earlier, reaching 187,340 tonnes, the industry group Abrafrigo said on Wednesday, helping push total monthly exports to a record high.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/brazil-s-beef-exports-to-chi
na-surge-as-trump-s-tariffs-shift-global-demand/ar-AA1O6jJK?ocid=msedgntp&pc=EDBBAN&cvid=9f1ca2aa498b4f9f8019781604442021&ei=96

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Wednesday, October 8, 2025 11:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Smart people don't flunk out of junior college Gilligan. And you did it twice. Can you spell narcissist?

T

As I've told you many times before, I dropped out of Jr. College four times.

I also bought a house with cash when I was 32 years old and haven't owed a cent of debt to anybody since August of 2005.

And before you start asking anybody if they can spell words, you should figure out the difference between too, to and two, Mr. College Graduate.

I'm all of the good parts of Rain Man, with very few of the negatives.

You got all the bad parts of the autism spectrum with none of the positives, I'm afraid.

But you keep lording that worthless college degree you got over everyone in your life. It's why there is nobody in your life and I'm the closest thing you have to a friend, Theodore.

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Thursday, October 9, 2025 1:59 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Trump is full of shit: "JUST OUT: Good news for the Holiday Season. EARLY PRICES ARE DOWN, WHILE TARIFFS ARE MAKING OUR COUNTRY AN ECONOMIC POWER AGAIN. Also, virtually NO INFLATION, AS STOCK MARKETS CONTINUALLY HIT RECORD HIGHS. THE BEST OF ALL WORLDS FOR THE U.S.A."
7:10 AM · Oct 6, 2025
https://x.com/TrumpTruthOnX/status/1975171710342267001

Roughly half of U.S. states are effectively in a recession and ‘hanging on by their fingertips,’ Moody’s chief economist says

By Eleanor Pringle | October 9, 2025 at 10:16 AM EDT

https://fortune.com/2025/10/09/america-feels-recession-state-dependent
-income-cohort-moody-zandi/

ANALYSIS: Despite strong national figures—3.8% GDP growth and 4.3% unemployment—large parts of the U.S. are effectively in recession, according to Moody’s Analytics. Chief economist Mark Zandi exclusively told Fortune that 22 states are contracting and many lower- and middle-income households are “hanging on by their fingertips,” struggling with debt and slowing wage growth despite steady employment. Private data during the federal shutdown shows weakening consumer confidence, particularly among those earning under $35,000. Zandi warned that if economic softness spreads from smaller, manufacturing-heavy states to giants like California or New York, the national economy could tip into recession.

Everything should feel fine in the economy. Gross domestic product was up a healthy 3.8% in the past quarter, and unemployment has stayed at a steady 4.3%. So why does it seem so tough?

The short answer is: Depending on where you live and who you are, the environment around you is recessionary.

According to analysis from Moody’s Analytics, 22 U.S. states are seeing their economies contract. Meanwhile, just 16 are seeing economic growth, while 13 are classified as “treading water.” That said, the states contributing the most to U.S. GDP—California, Texas, and New York—are all in the clear, pushing the overall growth of the country into the green as a result.

But for those who don’t live in the wealthier states (and indeed, aren’t on the higher end of the income ladder within those regions), things “don’t feel very good,” according to Moody’s chief economist, Mark Zandi.

Zandi told Fortune in an exclusive interview that lower-income households are “hanging on by their fingertips financially.” He explained: “They’ve got a job, so that’s why they’re still able to spend and remain engaged in the economy, but increasingly … the grip feels more tenuous because no one’s getting hired. You can sustain that for a while, but you can’t sustain that forever. If the layoffs do pick up, that lower-middle-income group is gonna get nailed—and they have no options, because they really don’t have much in the way of saving.

“They have debt: They have auto debt, they have student loan debt, they may, if they’re lucky, have a mortgage, but they’re gonna struggle, and their world is going to descend into recession pretty quickly.”

In the absence of federal data during the current government shutdown, private surveys have painted a picture of a weakening consumer. The Conference Board’s U.S. Consumer Confidence Survey, released at the end of September, found that by income cohort, those on the lowest end ($25,000 to $35,000) felt worse about the economy at present than when the survey hit an average low in April this year. Moreover, a little under 20% of respondents said jobs were hard to get, and 25% expected the market to get tougher.

Indeed, Zandi has previously outlined that U.S. fortunes are “tethered” to the prospects of the wealthy as they are the only consumers spending ahead of inflation.

And while job losses and rising unemployment would usually be the hallmark of recession, Zandi said an argument could be made that the lowest earners in America are living in a recessionary environment—regardless of where in the country they live: “They don’t have any assets, they’re in a very tenuous situation, and that feels like a recession and everything except: ‘I’ve got a job.’ The thing that’s becoming more apparent is that wage growth for folks in the bottom part of the distribution is lagging now, too.”

Zandi said everyone, bar those in the top 20% of earners, doesn’t feel “very good” about the economy, and added the margin for error on employment is minute: “The way people perceive their own economy, their own finances, are very consistent with the recession—the difference here is they’re not losing jobs.

“Having said that, we’re at a 4.3% unemployment rate … Even in a recession we got 5% or 5.5%, so we’re talking about a percentage point, which is about 1.5 million people. It’s not a lot of people, right? So you could argue that that’s not a very good litmus test of whether you’re in recession or not.”
Regional breakdown

On a regional level, at the sharpest end of the recession spectrum is the District of Columbia—to be expected, Zandi said, because of this year’s mass federal layoffs and funding cuts, which have now been exacerbated by a government shutdown. These issues are also dragging down the economies of nearby states like Maryland and Virginia.

Other regions tipping into the red have also likely done so because they are home to industries impacted by White House policy, said Zandi: “A bunch of other states rely on industries that are getting hit hard by the tariffs and even the restrictive immigration policy. They’re a manufacturing base, they’re agriculture, transportation, distribution, mining—those would be some of the Midwest states—even Georgia, which was the state that surprised me the most because historically that’s been a stronger state.

“But it does have a very large manufacturing base, a big port, a lot of agriculture, and in the big Atlanta economy it’s seen a very significant weakening and inflows of people, just because I think costs have risen considerably, it’s just not quite as affordable as it was given all the pandemic-related immigration into the state, and the housing market has gone soft.”

One of the most surprising elements of the data is that the recession spread is coast to coast, as opposed to being focused around one region of downturn or another—and with this in mind, Zandi said the wider fate of the American economy lies at either end of the country: California and New York.

“Those two states are treading water. They’re big states, and if they go into the red then that’ll probably take the national economy with them into recession. If they turn up and find their way through into the blue, I think we’ll be able to avoid a downturn,” Zandi said. On the markers he’s watching in either state, he added: “In New York, the thing I would be focused on is the S&P 500 because it’s very wealthy and also the financial services sector is critical to the big New York City economy—if that stumbles, then you know New York’s going in.

“In the case of California, it’s technology and also the S&P 500, because that goes to wealth and it goes to what’s driving the caps among those AI companies that are really booming.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, October 9, 2025 2:43 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

How Trump Threw a Wrench Into Credit Markets

By Telis Demos | Oct 9, 2025 | Wall Street Journal

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/how-trump-threw-a-wrench-into-
credit-markets/ar-AA1O8EjR

Leverage combined with dramatic policymaking is proving to be a volatile mix.

Earlier this year, investors held their breath as the extent of President Trump’s tariff policies were laid out. But in the months that followed, it also became evident that the impact on the large businesses that comprise the S&P 500 may be mostly manageable. The index has since surged to all-time highs.

That doesn’t mean any policy effects went away. And some companies that are more vulnerable to policy changes, either by the narrower nature of their business, or because they had more fragile financial underpinnings, are feeling it.

That, in turn, is creating headaches for the Wall Street ecosystem that has extended credit to these companies. Many of these businesses aren’t publicly listed or well known. But they are important cogs in the markets they serve, and employ large numbers of people.

Changes to things like tariffs, healthcare spending or immigration policy are rarely cited as the sole cause of any company’s trouble. But the strain that policy changes may be putting on companies, or their customers, have been noted as events that have helped exacerbate other issues.

Another common factor is a heavy debt load, a risk that some investors worry has been accumulating in an exuberant and fast-growing market for company debts. There are even concerns about cases of fraud, which have sometimes flourished in buoyant markets.

Fortune Survey Shows Majority of CEOs Say Trump Tariffs Harm Their Businesses

In late September, auto-parts supplier First Brands Group filed for bankruptcy. According to a court filing from the company’s chief restructuring officer, recent “geopolitical uncertainty and headwinds from newly imposed tariffs have pressurized global supply chains and layered additional complications on the company’s operations.”

These included the company spending about $220 million on things such as pre-buying inventory and increasing its investment in a project to produce certain parts in the U.S., according to the filing. At the same time, the company faced “mounting funded debt and lease obligations,” the filing said, and these factors all “snowballed into a liquidity crisis.”

The bankruptcy is complicated, as the company used forms of “off-balance sheet” financing. Outside directors installed at the company are investigating the ways in which account receivables were used to secure financing, The Wall Street Journal has reported.

Other recent bankruptcies also have cited the effects of tariffs.

In June, auto-parts supplier Marelli filed for bankruptcy protection. The company’s chief executive, in a court filing, cited “macroeconomic headwinds associated with the imposition of tariffs in countries around the world.” Those headwinds “cast uncertainty on the company’s forecast and ability to service a large capital structure that would be magnified by the quantum of new financing required,” the filing said.

Home-décor retailer At Home Group also filed for bankruptcy in June. A court filing cited tariffs, including on imports from China, where it sources many of its goods, as a factor complicating its efforts to address its liquidity and manage its debt load.

In September, auto-lender Tricolor Holdings filed for a Chapter 7 liquidation. The causes of its bankruptcy also appear to be complex. The Journal has reported that one of the company’s bank financing partners has alleged fraud related to the collateral used to secure financing.

Before its bankruptcy, a different policy swing out of Washington had caused concern about the company’s lending. A June presale report by S&P Global Ratings’ structured finance group on a Tricolor securitization noted that the lender’s market niche included many immigrants, and that “changes in immigration policies and enforcement are an event risk that could lead to higher delinquency and loss levels.”

So far, despite recent bankruptcies, there hasn’t been a surge in defaults in some key markets. Even accounting for First Brands’ bankruptcy, the trailing 12-month payment default rate as of the end of September on a Morningstar LSTA index of U.S. leveraged loans was 1.47% of the loan amounts, still well below the post-pandemic peak of 1.75% hit in July 2023, according to figures compiled by PitchBook LCD.

Still, a relative paucity of visible failures isn’t the same thing as an all-clear signal for all borrowers.

Morningstar DBRS in a September report said that among some of the weakest middle-market borrowers, there hasn’t been “any notable strengthening of operating performance,” and that “this trend may be exacerbated next year by incremental stress from tariffs or further de-acceleration in economic activity.”

Though recent problems have surfaced for borrowers in the auto industry, or in retail, other sectors also may have vulnerabilities.

A report from ratings agency KBRA recently cited emerging “setbacks” to roll-ups of healthcare practices, which collectively carry about $45 billion in total debt. Their possible challenges include the potential for lower reimbursement rates from Medicare and Medicaid to squeeze their profitability, the report said.

Many companies will muddle through new challenges as they did the pandemic, or surges in interest rates. Some will even benefit from policy changes, like tax cuts, or a shift to domestic production, or get a lift from Federal Reserve rate cuts. And even in the best of times, some borrowers will run into idiosyncratic problems.

But investors struggling to understand why some people are worried about the economy, even when stock indexes are flying high, might find explanations within less-visible parts of the market.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, October 9, 2025 3:15 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Trump is full of shit: "JUST OUT: Good news for the Holiday Season. EARLY PRICES ARE DOWN, WHILE TARIFFS ARE MAKING OUR COUNTRY AN ECONOMIC POWER AGAIN. Also, virtually NO INFLATION, AS STOCK MARKETS CONTINUALLY HIT RECORD HIGHS. THE BEST OF ALL WORLDS FOR THE U.S.A."
7:10 AM · Oct 6, 2025
https://x.com/TrumpTruthOnX/status/1975171710342267001

Roughly half of U.S. states are effectively in a recession and ‘hanging on by their fingertips,’ Moody’s chief economist says

You deny an actual recession with periods of double digit inflation for 4 years and now you're going to call today a recession.

This is why nobody pays any attention to you anymore.

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Thursday, October 9, 2025 4:47 PM

THG

Keep it real please

Shush SECOND ixnay, about Trumps shitty economy. You'll upset comrade signym. And because Jack can't deny or show proof our posts are wrong, he can only say again and again, you didn't care before.

too funny...

T

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Thursday, October 9, 2025 4:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Shush SECOND ixnay, about Trumps shitty economy. You'll upset comrade signym. And because Jack can't deny or show proof our posts are wrong, he can only say again and again, you didn't care before.

too funny...

T

Trump's economy is fine. Here's your proof, fuck stick.

It would have been a whole lot better if your boy Joe* didn't do this to us over the last 4 years:

https://www.bls.gov/charts/consumer-price-index/consumer-price-index-b
y-category-line-chart.htm#

You do understand that Inflation is cumulative, and that once one asshole fucks it all up that the prices never go back down to where they were before, don't you dumbass? Trump was left with the baseline prices that Joe Biden* caused when he was inaugurated.

We're at 2.7% inflation right now. Still higher than the FED target of 2%, but so much better than at any point during your idiot meatpuppet President after his first two months when he was handed an economy with only 1.4% inflation, in a 2020 where inflation was well below the FED target rate of 2%.

You're a fucking idiot, Ted. Get my name out of your mouth before I slap your stupid ass all over these boards again.

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Thursday, October 9, 2025 5:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

I even took the liberty to dumb it down so somebody as dumb as you can understand it, Ted.

CPI (ALL ITEMS) PER MONTH, DATING BACK TO JANUARY 2020.

TRUMP'S FINAL YEAR (1ST TERM):
Jan 2020
2.5%
Feb 2020
2.3%
Mar 2020
1.5%
Apr 2020
0.3%
May 2020
0.1%
June 2020
0.6%
July 2020
1.0%
Aug 2020
1.3%
Sept 2020
1.4%
Oct 2020
1.2%
Nov 2020
1.2%
Dec 2020
1.4%

JOE BIDEN'S ONLY TERM (2021-2024)
Jan 2021
1.4%
Feb 2021
1.7%
Mar 2021
2.6%
Apr 2021
4.2%
May 2021
5.0%
June 2021
5.4%
July 2021
5.4%
Aug 2021
5.3%
Sept 2021
5.4%
Oct 2021
6.2%
Nov 2021
6.8%
Dec 2021
7.0%
Jan 2022
7.5%
Feb 2022
7.9%
Mar 2022
8.5%
Apr 2022
8.3%
May 2022
8.6%
June 2022
9.1%
July 2022
8.5%
Aug 2022
8.3%
Sept 2022
8.2%
Oct 2022
7.7%
Nov 2022
7.1%
Dec 2022
6.5%
Jan 2023
6.4%
Feb 2023
6.0%
Mar 2023
5.0%
Apr 2023
4.9%
May 2023
4.0%
June 2023
3.0%
July 2023
3.2%
Aug 2023
3.7%
Sept 2023
3.7%
Oct 2023
3.2%
Nov 2023
3.1%
Dec 2023
3.4%
Jan 2024
3.1%
Feb 2024
3.2%
Mar 2024
3.5%
Apr 2024
3.4%
May 2024
3.3%
June 2024
3.0%
July 2024
2.9%
Aug 2024
2.5%
Sept 2024
2.4%
Oct 2024
2.6%
Nov 2024
2.7%
Dec 2024
2.9%

TRUMP'S 2ND TERM:
Jan 2025
3.0%
Feb 2025
2.8%
Mar 2025
2.4%
Apr 2025
2.3%
May 2025
2.4%
June 2025
2.7%
July 2025
2.7%
Aug 2025
2.9%
Sep 2025
2.7%

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Friday, October 10, 2025 1:13 PM

THG

Keep it real please

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Inflation and Tariffs: Inflation has picked up since the tariffs were announced, with consumer price index data showing outsized increases in tariff-sensitive categories, including beef. The average tariff rate has increased to 17.4%, the highest since 1935, costing households an extra $2,300 in 2025.

Your long winded posts with you latching on to something, and completely getting it wrong are classic Signym. The other reasons you quote for high beef prices don't mean shit. This is not complicated. You don't need graphs or water shortage statistics to figure out what Trumps tariffs are doing. First, you have the price of something, in this case beef, add the cost of the tariff onto the product. In this case beef.

Even a child knows if you add 25% to the cost of something, then its cost goes up 25%. I'm laughing here because this is so simple. Again, even a child knows if American companies are paying the 25% tariff, some of that cost is passed onto the consumer; still laughing. By the way, in America it is called a tax. Trump raised everyone's taxes by raising the cost of everything they buy.

I can't believe how much time and energy you've put into two pages of this thread, arguing and defending Trumps tariffs. All the while saying they aren't killing American companies and consumers. He raised the price of everything, for business and consumer alike that has a tariff attached to it. Which is everything.

By how much did he raise our taxes? By the different tariff amounts attached to each product you buy or pay for. And more and more of those higher prices being picked up by our companies are passed onto us. I'm still laughing comrade, not really. This is a fucking nightmare.

Now, a tariff adds that amount onto the cost of a product. Regardless of other factors that may increase a price. A 25% tariff adds 25% to the cost. It's a sales, a consumption tax on the consumer. There's nothing to debate lass. If you think there is, ask a child to explain it to you.

And just a reminder. Trump is giving 2 trillion dollars in tax breaks to the top .01 percent. Where is he getting the money to replace his tax cuts for the rich? From tariffs, i.e. sales, consumption taxes of course. Also, by denying healthcare to millions, cutting NASA's budget by 47%, and so on and so on.

You know it takes a real moron to give an idiot an important job. And you did just that.

Next topic...

They're both very short comrade so watch them. Pay careful attention to the supply chain data. It's what I've been walking you up to. The key freight indicator. It's the lowest it's ever been for any September in recorded history.

It's here, it's happening and has been. It's just hitting harder now because as I've said, inventories are going to deplete. Anything that may still be in warehouses because of the tariffs companies aren't buying. I have been telling you and Gilligan these past months what was happening and what was going to happen. And even with that, you still didn't see it coming. And obviously still don't understand any of it.

tick tock

T

Latest supply chain data looks eerily like a freight recession

Price Hikes Hit American Consumers

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Friday, October 10, 2025 5:44 PM

THG

Keep it real please

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Everything he types is idiocy.

I want to frame this on my wall comrade. Checkmate...

How are Donald Trump's tariffs hurting America

Donald Trump's 2025 tariffs are having a wide-ranging impact on the U.S. economy, and experts are raising concerns about several key areas:

?? Economic Growth and Wages
The Penn Wharton Budget Model projects that Trump's tariffs could reduce long-run U.S. GDP by about 6% and wages by 5%.

A typical middle-income household may face a $22,000 lifetime loss, which is twice as damaging as a major corporate tax hike.

?? Trucking Industry Disruption
A new 25% tariff on imported medium and heavy-duty trucks is set to begin in November 2025. This could raise costs for transportation and logistics, which affect nearly every sector of the economy.

The trucking industry employs over 2 million Americans, and higher costs could threaten jobs and increase consumer prices.

?? Agriculture and Manufacturing Hit Hard
U.S. agriculture and durable manufacturing sectors are disproportionately hurt, with reduced output, lower employment, and rising prices.

Retaliatory tariffs from other countries are compounding the damage, especially in export-heavy industries.

?? Inflation and Investment
Tariffs are increasing inflation across multiple sectors, especially where global sourcing is critical (e.g., furniture, remodeling materials).

Reduced openness to international capital flows may lead to higher interest rates and lower investment, further slowing economic activity.

?? Global Trade Slowdown
The World Trade Organization forecasts a sharp slowdown in global trade growth in 2026, largely due to the delayed impact of U.S. tariffs.

Business and consumer confidence are weakening, and inventories are shrinking as companies brace for slower GDP growth.

T

Fuck signym, how many times must I explain the damage Trump is doing to health care before you get it? Pay particular attention to the number of illegals using our health care system. I think if you're honest, it'll surprise you.

T

Red states use Obamacare more; health care cuts hit red states hardest

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Friday, October 10, 2025 6:33 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Hey fucker. I put the inflation numbers by month for your stupid ass to look at.

You lost another argument and didn't reply.

You're an idiot and a coward.

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Friday, October 10, 2025 7:15 PM

THG

Keep it real please

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I even took the liberty to dumb it down so somebody as dumb as you can understand it, Ted.

TRUMP'S 2ND TERM:
Jan 2025
3.0%
Feb 2025
2.8%
Mar 2025
2.4%
Apr 2025
2.3%
May 2025
2.4%
June 2025
2.7%
July 2025
2.7%
Aug 2025
2.9%
Sep 2025
2.7%

You don’t even understand what your numbers are telling you. Nor what happened because of COVID, the way Trump handled it and the fact that before COVID, Trump had already lost 240 thousand manufacturing jobs.

Joe Biden spent money to keep things afloat. That helped increase inflation yes but for one thing, he kept millions from winding up on the streets because they had no money for rent. And our inflation rate was still one of the lowest in the world. You are clueless.

Look at your own inflation numbers. When Trump took office end of January 2025 Biden had inflation back down to 3. %. In March it was at 2.4% and April, 2.3%. It was still Bidens economy even though Trump started destroying it on day one.

Now, look at these past four months. Three months at 2.7% and one at 2.9. It is going back up. And if you checked out my last two posts, you’ll see why it is going to go up expeditiously now. And, and because Trump is feuding with China again who, is kicking his ass. Donnie, is killing America.

But that’s what you want, so you’re happy.

T

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Friday, October 10, 2025 8:14 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I even took the liberty to dumb it down so somebody as dumb as you can understand it, Ted.

TRUMP'S 2ND TERM:
Jan 2025
3.0%
Feb 2025
2.8%
Mar 2025
2.4%
Apr 2025
2.3%
May 2025
2.4%
June 2025
2.7%
July 2025
2.7%
Aug 2025
2.9%
Sep 2025
2.7%

This isn't a legitimate reply.

This is Ted, who doesn't understand how Math works, posting a bunch of his feels and regurgitations from his mindless George Soros funded clickbait that is made for stupid people.

Shut the fuck up already, retard. Your stupid ass is unbearable. You should have been smacked around by your dad a LOT more when you were a kid.

Meanwhile, we haven't let in a single illegal alien in many, many months and we've been sending them all home.

If Harris had been elected, we'd already have another 5 million military age men living here that don't belong here.

You're goddamned right I'm happy.

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Saturday, October 11, 2025 7:40 AM

THG

Keep it real please

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I even took the liberty to dumb it down so somebody as dumb as you can understand it, Ted.

TRUMP'S 2ND TERM:
Jan 2025
3.0%
Feb 2025
2.8%
Mar 2025
2.4%
Apr 2025
2.3%
May 2025
2.4%
June 2025
2.7%
July 2025
2.7%
Aug 2025
2.9%
Sep 2025
2.7%

You don’t even understand what your numbers are telling you. Nor what happened because of COVID, the way Trump handled it and the fact that before COVID, Trump had already lost 240 thousand manufacturing jobs.

Joe Biden spent money to keep things afloat. That helped increase inflation yes but for one thing, he kept millions from winding up on the streets because they had no money for rent. And our inflation rate was still one of the lowest in the world. You are clueless.

Look at your own inflation numbers. When Trump took office end of January 2025 Biden had inflation back down to 3. %. In March it was at 2.4% and April, 2.3%. It was still Bidens economy even though Trump started destroying it on day one.

Now, look at these past four months. Three months at 2.7% and one at 2.9. It is going back up. And if you checked out my last two posts, you’ll see why it is going to go up expeditiously now. And, and because Trump is feuding with China again who, is kicking his ass. Donnie, is killing America.

But that’s what you want, so you’re happy.

T

The numbers used in my response to you were your numbers moron, not Soros's. And judging by your rant back at me, I'd say you were bested Gilligan.

T

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Saturday, October 11, 2025 11:19 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I even took the liberty to dumb it down so somebody as dumb as you can understand it, Ted.

TRUMP'S 2ND TERM:
Jan 2025
3.0%
Feb 2025
2.8%
Mar 2025
2.4%
Apr 2025
2.3%
May 2025
2.4%
June 2025
2.7%
July 2025
2.7%
Aug 2025
2.9%
Sep 2025
2.7%

You don’t even understand what your numbers are telling you. Nor what happened because of COVID, the way Trump handled it and the fact that before COVID, Trump had already lost 240 thousand manufacturing jobs.

Joe Biden spent money to keep things afloat. That helped increase inflation yes but for one thing, he kept millions from winding up on the streets because they had no money for rent. And our inflation rate was still one of the lowest in the world. You are clueless.

Look at your own inflation numbers. When Trump took office end of January 2025 Biden had inflation back down to 3. %. In March it was at 2.4% and April, 2.3%. It was still Bidens economy even though Trump started destroying it on day one.

Now, look at these past four months. Three months at 2.7% and one at 2.9. It is going back up. And if you checked out my last two posts, you’ll see why it is going to go up expeditiously now. And, and because Trump is feuding with China again who, is kicking his ass. Donnie, is killing America.

But that’s what you want, so you’re happy.

T

This isn't a legitimate reply.

This is Ted, who doesn't understand how Math works, posting a bunch of his feels and regurgitations from his mindless George Soros funded clickbait that is made for stupid people.

Shut the fuck up already, retard. Your stupid ass is unbearable. You should have been smacked around by your dad a LOT more when you were a kid.

Meanwhile, we haven't let in a single illegal alien in many, many months and we've been sending them all home.

If Harris had been elected, we'd already have another 5 million military age men living here that don't belong here.

You're goddamned right I'm happy.

The numbers used in my response to you were your numbers moron, not Soros's. And judging by your rant back at me, I'd say you were bested Gilligan.

T

Cherry picked bullshit dude. Why didn't you put the last year of Trump's first term where inflation was well below 2% on average for the entire year before Joe Biden* blew everything up and 2 years later we were seeing 8% and 9% per month on the regular?

That's the bullshit that your George Soros funded clickbait does all the time and I'm sure they planted that little nugget of a lie in your head like all the rest of them using the same tactics they've trained you to use.

You've never bested anyone in your life. You are far too stupid to win any argument.

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