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Historical curiosities: Who is this god?

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
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Friday, September 26, 2025 8:09 PM

SIGNYM

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Friday, September 26, 2025 9:33 PM

SIGNYM

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It's not who you think it is.


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Saturday, September 27, 2025 3:04 PM

SIGNYM

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Serapis, a Greco-Egyptian god worshipped 3 centuries before Christ, beginning in the city of Alexandria.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serapis

Also portrayed as





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Sunday, September 28, 2025 1:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I was hoping somebody else would come in and answer you.

I was going to reverse lookup the image, but when I opened up the image in another tab it had the answer in the filename.

Greco-Egyptian-deity-sun-Serapis-portrait-on-painted-wood-Egypt.jpg

If you download the image to your computer and rename it to anything generic and upload it to an image hosting site like imgbb (which I know you're wary of) or anything you find that you consider safer, you can keep that from happening.



I usually do it just because it was always good internet etiquette back from a time when bandwidth did matter. Every time somebody pulls up this thread, it's taking the image from encyclopedia brittanica and just a little bit of their bandwidth. Almost meaningless in 2025 with the leaps and bounds that data transfer tech has made and how cheap bandwidth is, but I remember back in the day people who got themselves caught posting images from one website onto another and leaching the bandwidth in this way had some explaining to do when the person who posted the "borrowed" image all of the sudden had the image replaced with Goatse or something equally horrific for everybody else at the forum to see under their handle.

Today I just do it as not to bring any attention to this site.

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Sunday, September 28, 2025 1:54 PM

BRENDA


I would have answered but I don't think I know this Egyptian god. I would have to look him up. The curly hair makes that bust look more Greek or Roman.

And the first image made me think of an Icon of the Catholic church.

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Sunday, September 28, 2025 2:53 PM

SIGNYM

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There is also an Egyptian god, Osiris, born of a god and a human woman, who was betrayed, killed and resurrected. Once resurrected he became a god of the afterlife, who judged souls to either eternal life or to the eternal underworld.

https://egyptmythology.com/the-story-of-osiris-the-god-who-died-and-ro
se-again
/

Since Serapis, who is sometimes portrayed as a Christ-like figure, is a combination of Osiris and Apis, some of Osiris' characteristics attach to him too.

It seems that the story of Jesus is heavily influenced by Egyptian beliefs. AFAIK ... and I'm not a scholar of religions ... there's nothing in Judaic hope for a Messiah that includes death and resurrection. Jews expected a political leader, a descendant of King David who would throw out the Romans, rebuild the Temple, and establish Jewish rule.

People wonder about those missing years in Jesus's story, from the time he's correcting Jewish scholars in the Temple to the time he reappears as a religious leader. Some say he traveled abroad, some think he went as far as India. But maybe he went to Egypt?

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Sunday, September 28, 2025 4:23 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


You have it told, the question and answer gave away in your pic/url

just as SixString pointed out

sun-Serapis-portrait dot jpg


There are without doubt similarity with Christianity and other religions Zoroastrian faith, Europe Paganism, Buddhism, Epic of Gilgamesh, people told folklore stories these stories had some myth and history and would become part of local religions....Great Flood Myth is all across Folklore and by digs across the world it is thought huge floods really did happen

then Jewish faith or the 'Old Testament' has influence also, Akhenaten or Amenhotep IV is said to have given birth to Monotheism, the story of Moses himself found in a basket but supposed to be of Noble Bloodline as Egypt had their civil wars...Canaanites were a tribe of people the Jews hated but they probably stole their stories and Amalek, they hated the Amalaek and took their writings, there might be Greek, Rome and Persia influences “paradise” comes directly from the Persian religion of Mithraism. Samson, is it a remake just as they remake or re-imagine or revamp Superman or Spider-Man or Donlad Duck and Mickey Mouse movies? one of the most popular legends from the Old Testament, is a near-exact replication of the Greek legend of Heracles


but the Amalgamation of Greek and Egypt is interesting


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Sunday, September 28, 2025 11:49 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There is also an Egyptian god, Osiris, born of a god and a human woman, who was betrayed, killed and resurrected. Once resurrected he became a god of the afterlife, who judged souls to either eternal life or to the eternal underworld.

https://egyptmythology.com/the-story-of-osiris-the-god-who-died-and-ro
se-again
/

Since Serapis, who is sometimes portrayed as a Christ-like figure, is a combination of Osiris and Apis, some of Osiris' characteristics attach to him too.

It seems that the story of Jesus is heavily influenced by Egyptian beliefs. AFAIK ... and I'm not a scholar of religions ... there's nothing in Judaic hope for a Messiah that includes death and resurrection. Jews expected a political leader, a descendant of King David who would throw out the Romans, rebuild the Temple, and establish Jewish rule.

People wonder about those missing years in Jesus's story, from the time he's correcting Jewish scholars in the Temple to the time he reappears as a religious leader. Some say he traveled abroad, some think he went as far as India. But maybe he went to Egypt?

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I know about Osiris and Horus. Neither am I a religious scholar but I have read and know a bit about Egyptology.

Jesus could have easily gone to Egypt and left an inprint there that was incorporated into Egyptian gods.

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Monday, September 29, 2025 12:25 AM

SIGNYM

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Osiris etc predate Jesus by quite a few centuries I suspect that Jesus, if he had gone to Egypt, might have come back with stories about a god of healing and peace who is resurrected.

None of that is on the Bible as Jesus's teachings, but there are supposedly in the Vatican other parts of religious scrolls that were purged sometime around 600BC, IIRC.

There are a lot of stories in the Bible I'm sure that have interesting stories behind them.

One of the parables is ends "give him your cloak also". It's not a straightforward story about charity as might seem. According to scholars, men who didn't own land had to work as day laborers on other people's land. In order to buy food for the day, they had to borrow money, and would be asked to give their shirt as surety for the payday loan. Their only other asset was their cloak, which is what kept them from freezing to death at night. The parable about "give him your cloak also“ was really a bit of street theatre about the rapaciousness of money lenders and wealth inequality.

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Monday, September 29, 2025 2:47 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


There seems to have definitely, without doubt been a Jesus in history but he wasnt really called 'Jesus' the names are different during this time, they change from Yeshua to Messiah, Savior, to a mocking 'King of the Jews' to Christos. The Christians wrote of him but during the time Christians were new, they were kind of seen as a new 'Cult'. Described also outside of those writings are historians and Flavius Josephus non-Christian sources, Jesus is described by many sources. Writings and descriptions by Tacitus who wrote for Rome and Byzantine, described by the Roman historian Tacitus, the writings of a Roman governor in the Middle East/ Asia also Jewish Rabbi writings, Jews recorded him but did not admit he was the Messiah, Paul was something of a 'Fed' a Rome Enforcer who joined the rebels, a contemporary of Jesus who personally knew eyewitnesses since the mid 30s AD. Paul was with Pharisees the Jew social movement that helped persecute Christians, Paul was not one of the Twelve Apostles, however his writings are considered history and religious canonical. Paul is controversial accused of introducing the Barbarian Greek Pagan or Hellenistic stuff, some think he was from a freeman Jew family once slaves who became more noble, perhaps among the thousands of Jews made free by Pompey explaining his Rome citizenship.
The Biblical story says the Holy Spirit of Jesus? visited Paul or Paul had a 'vision'
https://www.answers.com/religion-and-spirituality/Who_said_saul_why_do
_you_persecute_me

Paul although he has other names 'Saul' is one of the important figures of the Apostolic Age when Christianity spread from Asia Minor into Greece and into the heart of Rome. Jesus according to their own timeline is missing for many years, unknown years of Jesus years, lost years, or missing years, some say he might have gone West to Egypt or went East into a direction of India to study Buddhism. Christian churches don't encourage people to ask this question it is more fringe or part of esoteric literature.

Messianic Judaism described another syncretic sect, they changed their minds and said Jesus is the Messiah, incorporates elements of Jewish practice and considers itself to be a form of Judaism but also considered to be a form of Christianity. The International Religious Freedom Report 2008, released by the Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor in the US, stated that discrimination against Messianic Jews in Israel was increasing
https://2001-2009.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2008/108484.htm
Are they finally sorry they got Rome to crucify? the Jewish State of Israel seems to be more concerned with bomb the crap out of Palestine now.
Jews for Jesus movement
https://www.vox.com/2018/10/31/18042506/jew-for-jesus-messianic-jews-l
oren-jacobs-mike-pence


The Serapeum
https://www.historyhit.com/locations/the-serapeum/

AI video

Serapis - The United God of Egypt and Greece


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