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Disney’s ABC has OFFICIALLY removed Jimmy Kimmel from the air nationwide, effective immediately and indefinitely, after his lies regarding Charlie Kirk’s assassination.

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Wednesday, September 24, 2025 12:42 PM

THG

Keep it real please


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Winning.

https://deadline.com/2025/09/jimmy-kimmel-live-off-abc-charlie-kirk-co
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Go fuck yourself, Ted.

Your world is getting smaller and smaller by the day.

Just like I keep telling you it would.



Winning...

T


Jimmy Kimmel RETURNS to television as Trump seethes and threatens to sue



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Wednesday, September 24, 2025 5:40 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Why don't you read what I wrote yesterday, Ted.

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Wednesday, September 24, 2025 5:57 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Bullshit out of Paul Krugman's mouth in 2025 isn't helping anybody except for those among us who want to spend every day of the rest of their lives angry at other people.

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6ixStringJack, why did you change your signature today, from The Democrats are the party of Murder to an obviously religious theme? Because Charlie Kirk died for your sins. Charlie is a Martyr.


It's lyrics to a song, dummy. Don't worry about it. It's way over your head.

Democrats are still the party of murder, and Paul Krugman is hate porn for morons.

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Wednesday, September 24, 2025 6:59 PM

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Bullshit out of Paul Krugman's mouth in 2025 isn't helping anybody except for those among us who want to spend every day of the rest of their lives angry at other people.

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6ixStringJack, why did you change your signature today, from The Democrats are the party of Murder to an obviously religious theme? Because Charlie Kirk died for your sins. Charlie is a Martyr.


It's lyrics to a song, dummy. Don't worry about it. It's way over your head.

Democrats are still the party of murder, and Paul Krugman is hate porn for morons.

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Yanno what? I've got time...

Not that I imagine this will be time well spent since I won't change anything by writing this, but you were perceptive enough to notice the change and you asked a question. Even if you followed it up with whatever bullshit you posted that I didn't read, as per usual, you asked a good question.

Why did I change my signature? It used to read Democrats are the Party of Murder., and now it reads For all that I've blessed, and all that I've wronged. In dreams until my death, I will wander on.

There are actually three posts I made last night that I would like you to read if you have the time. The first was a very ill-timed ask of everyone here what their predictions for Jimmy's show was going to be, both short-term and long-term.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=67107&mid=12294
02#1229402

* My apologies for not toning down the rhetoric for you, but if you manage to just disregard the insults along the way, I think you'll find my prediction for how the monologue was going to go down was spot on. And mark my words, one day, especially if last night was the beginning of a turning point in America and Jimmy does the right thing with the rare gift he was given last night, it will come out that somebody high up in the "old school" Democratic Party wrote a majority of that monologue. My money would be on Rahm Emanuel, even if he wasn't actually the person who wrote it, and it would be brought to the "top of mind" for voters when he launches his campaign for President.



That's not the important bit though. Did you read my $1.4 Trillion PowerBall pick?

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=67107&mid=12294
05#1229405

After proof reading and making changes, I put an edit on the end saying that I really liked that scenario. One where Trump was actually invited onto the show and Donny and Jimmy had a Ceasefire.

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I've got my fingers crossed that this is more or less the way things go down tonight. I didn't win the big PowerBall a few weeks ago when I played for the first time in quite a few years, but maybe I win this one...?

It sounds kind of nice...

Waking up a few tens of millions of people the furthest on either side just for a moment to slip that little seed in their brains that we can disagree with each other, but everybody we disagree with isn't automatically Satan.



Am I wrong? Doesn't that sound nice?


I thought it sounded kind of nice.




And then the monologue went down almost exactly as I originally predicted that it would. (I can't say anything about the rest of the show because I didn't watch it myself and I refuse to watch anybody else's take on it).

I feel my review of his monologue was fair and I stand by every word of it. Even appreciating the Tylenol joke near the beginning.

But again, the important bit of that post was this...

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It all sounded great, Jimmy.

Now stop being a chronic fuck face and stop riling up all the other chronic fuck faces five nights a week. Just do your fucking job and entertain us.


I'm looking for the country to heal, and I'm looking for people finding ways to finally, GENUINELY try to turn down the temperature.

You, Jimmy, are in a position of influence that can make this happen. But if you go right back to the show you used to do up until last week and pretend that more than half the country didn't hate you going into last week, your viewership is going to tank again and everyone is just going to keep being pissed off at each other forever.

I'd suggest for all of us that you don't do that. And I'd suggest that you encourage people like Ted and Second to stop being assholes to everybody else all the time too.

Maybe this will work out well for everyone in the end.

Honestly, I don't think this monologue could have possibly been any better than it was, given your current vantage point. What you choose to do with that now is up to you.

The ball is in your court.




So...

As I'm writing that last night and making a few edits, I realize how incongruous my posts of the night and my signature for the last week were with each other.

It didn't make any sense for me to even post like that if I was going to continue using that signature to punctuate every post I made.

Charlie Kirk was murdered for embodying everything you claim to be fighting for when Jimmy was being cancelled from TV. And the fact that you don't see that is simply shocking to me.

But I realize that I may be a big part of the problem. As long as you have a totem to focus all of your hate on and personal justification for it, you don't ever have to budge a single inch on anything and you can go around believing that you have all the answers for everything and that anyone who disagrees with any thought in your head is Super Mecha Hitler Satan.





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So why did I change my signature last night?

I mostly did that for the benefit of Ted, but I did it for you as well. I did it for everybody, really.

For all that I've blessed, and all that I've wronged. In dreams until my death, I will wander on.

I am not a perfect man. I've never pretended to be. Sometimes I think I'm just about the furthest you can possibly be from it while still residing on the top side of the horizon. I know who I am. I also know who I'm not.


I'm done with your hate man.

You guys burned down cities over the death of George Floyd for an entire summer, and everybody who supported Charlie Kirk all over the world got together peacefully and in a positive spirit to show their support. Nobody got hurt. No small business owners were ruined. Nobody died. The worst thing that happened were some of these events being crashed by people with rabies who were celebrating Kirk's death.

We're all just done with your hate.

I don't know all of the answers. Truth be told, I don't know most of them.

But I've been searching for quite a while behind the scenes, and I know I don't want to keep living with all this political shit and hate for much longer. I don't live it at all when I'm out in the real world. Being online so much has done this to me. It's done this to most of us.

I might never stop wandering, and I probably never will find any of the answers that matter.

But this bullshit we do here everyday is just so fucking stupid.

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Wednesday, September 24, 2025 11:15 PM

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The Charlie Kirk hagiography shows our society's empty worship of form. He held debates, so he was a champion of free speech. Never mind that these were rigged events where he'd tempt unwary college kids to spar with him and then humiliate them with cheap rhetorical tricks and put the footage online.

This gets to something that as a former stand-up I recognized but couldn't name. A 31-year-old professional content creator baiting 19-year-old amateurs into the format of his choice isn't debate, it's crowd work. It's debate-shaped crowd work farmed for content.

Conservatives recognise that their biggest threat is an educated population. Shapiro ran the same grift and failed spectacularly against anyone who’d actually graduated. Another notable point is that Charlie was at Universities debating the students, not the professors.

Charlie didn't even rig the debates that well. He just started talking louder or some other aggressive tactic when he started losing.

His literal last words were these bullshit deflection tactics meant to dance around the actual issue and question posed to him. Like to be trying to avoid talking about gun violence and then get shot was so on the nose it would be cliche in a TV show but hey we're in hell so anything goes.

https://imgur.com/gallery/free-speech-vs-abusing-sleep-deprived-stress
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Thursday, September 25, 2025 7:14 AM

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Trump: Take Kimmel off the air!
[Kimmel gets taken off]

Trump: I had nothing to do with Kimmel getting taken off.
[Kimmel comes back]

Trump: Take Kimmel off the air again or I will make you pay!
[Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

I can't believe ABC Fake News gave Jimmy Kimmel his job back. The White House was told by ABC that his Show was cancelled! Something happened between then and now because his audience is GONE, and his "talent" was never there. Why would they want someone back who does so poorly, who's not funny, and who puts the Network in jeopardy by playing 99% positive Democrat GARBAGE. He is yet another arm of the DNC and, to the best of my knowledge, that would be a major Illegal Campaign Contribution. I think we're going to test ABC out on this. Let's see how we do. Last time I went after them, they gave me $16 Million Dollars. This one sounds even more lucrative. A true bunch of losers! Let Jimmy Kimmel rot in his bad Ratings.

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Lower Than Cowards

The surrender of America’s elites

By Adam Serwer | September 25, 2025, 7:31 AM ET

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/09/freedom-trump-threat
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“We have to speak out against this bully,” Jimmy Kimmel said in an emotional monologue after returning to ABC on Tuesday. The network had suspended him, under pressure from the Trump administration, for remarks last week in which Kimmel appeared to inaccurately suggest that Charlie Kirk’s killer was a conservative. Kimmel choked up when discussing the violence and praised Kirk’s widow, Erika.

But he also warned his viewers—an audience four times larger than usual—that Trump and his cronies are threatening free speech in all its forms: “Our leader celebrates Americans losing their jobs, because he can’t take a joke,” Kimmel said. But “he’s not stopping. And it’s not just comedy.” True to form, Trump has since threatened to sue ABC for bringing Kimmel back, as if it were illegal not to like him.

Kimmel’s refusal to capitulate stands out because so many other well-situated people—those with the resources, platform, and power to stand up to the president, including, initially, the leaders of ABC—have surrendered, withdrawn, or become Trump sycophants themselves. One by one, American leaders supposedly committed to principles of free speech, due process, democracy, and equality have abandoned those ideals when menaced by the Trump administration. These cascading acts of cowardice from the people best positioned to resist Trump’s authoritarian power grabs have made Trump seem exponentially more powerful than he actually is, sapping strength from others who might have discovered the courage to stand up. Defending democracy requires a collective refusal to acquiesce to lawless behavior from many different sectors of society. All of these powerful people trying to save their own skin have effectively multiplied Trump’s attacks on constitutional government, by enhancing a false sense of inevitably and invincibility.

ABC and its parent company, Disney, had been menaced into suspending Kimmel by Brendan Carr, the head of the Federal Communications Commission. “We can do this the easy way or the hard way,” Carr said on a right-wing podcast.

He later attempted to walk back what he’d said—despite what your lying ears may have heard, and despite his gloating on social media. As it turns out, you can’t sell your soul to Trump and keep your spine; they’re a package deal. Nonetheless, the bullying was effective. Kimmel may have returned to ABC, but two of the network’s biggest broadcasters, Sinclair and Nexstar, are still refusing to air him on their stations.

If Trump has been right about anything, it is that there is a deep rot in the upper echelons of American society, among people who have been put in positions of power and leadership. Trump understands that many of these people are weak, that their public commitment to civic principles can crumble under sustained pressure. In many cases, those folding have had ample resources to resist Trump’s shakedowns but haven’t been brave enough to do so. They are, in a word, chickenshit.

I want to distinguish between chickenshit and cowardice. Fear is part of human existence. Bravery is the overcoming of fear, not its absence. Acts of cowardice can be provoked by genuine danger—think of a deserting soldier fleeing the peril of the battlefield. When you’re chickenshit, you capitulate to avoid the mere possibility of discomfort, let alone something resembling real risk. Disney is one of the largest companies in the world, with a devoted following and a market cap bigger than many countries’ stock markets. It did not have to cave.

Big companies and their CEOs have cowered before Trumpist intimidation, trying to ease his temper by settling frivolous lawsuits over “bias” or slathering the president in juche-style flattery. Media companies have settled First Amendment cases they were likely to win in order to curry favor or protect their parent company’s commercial interests. Newspaper owners have compromised the integrity of their own publications. Elite academic institutions have sacrificed their independence to try to preserve their federal funding. At least one has turned the names of its own students over to the government for potential political persecution. Major law firms with deep pockets and armies of lawyers have shrunk from defending the rule of law because they fear Trump’s wrath.

Promoting her book, former Vice President Kamala Harris told the MSNBC host Rachel Maddow, “I always believed that if push came to shove, those titans of industry would be guardrails for our democracy, for the importance of sustaining democratic institutions.” Now we know most titans of industry won’t be fighting right-wing authoritarianism as fiercely as they would a tax hike on private equity.

For years the leaders of the Republican Party, with all its tough-guy bravado, have shrunk from standing up to Trump when it matters. But even the opposition party has been less confrontational this time around. This week, the House passed a congressional resolution honoring Kirk in part for “respect for his fellow Americans.”

The Congressional Black Caucus rightfully condemned his murder but also opposed the resolution, in part because of Kirk’s view that the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which outlawed Jim Crow, was a “mistake” that had become an “anti-white weapon.” Kirk also called for the most recent Democratic president to be executed, which doesn’t seem very respectful, in all honesty. House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries voted for the resolution anyway, saying, “I look at it as a two-page resolution that doesn’t even have the force of law.”

Everyone always has sound, rational reasons for caving to intimidation. They’re protecting their reputation, their job, their family, their institution, their investments—the number of reasons to succumb to an autocrat’s whims compound until fighting back can feel like a fool’s errand. Multiply that decision a thousand-fold, and you have a society in which people who could otherwise fight back collectively choose to surrender individually, thinking themselves alone. But in every case, the act of capitulation compromises the very thing those capitulating say they want to protect. Fighting doesn’t always result in victory, but surrendering guarantees defeat. The only people who have preserved their dignity or their rights in dealing with Trump are those who have been willing to stand up to him.

The sheer number of American elites willing to acquiesce to the destruction of democratic institutions is demoralizing. But it’s worth noting that many ordinary people seem to be made of sterner stuff. ICE detainees such as the Palestinian-rights activist Mahmoud Khalil, for example, have continued to speak publicly about the administration’s abuses. These are people who stand to lose their homes, their freedom, their families, and they are showing more courage than people who have summer homes and trust funds. Protesters continue to show up in the streets, risking being brutalized by armed agents of the state. In Washington, D.C., citizens called to serve on grand juries have refused to indict people accused by the Trump administration of political crimes.

The people, it turns out, are far more courageous than their leaders.

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Vice President JD Vance has urged Democrats to "stop telling your supporters that everybody who disagrees with you is a Nazi" if they want to end political violence in the United States.

"If you want to stop political violence stop attacking our law enforcement as the Gestapo, if you want to stop political violence stop telling your supporters that everybody who disagrees with you is a Nazi."

House Democrat Eric Swalwell asked: "Why did @JDVance call Trump 'America's Hitler.'"

Vance sent a message to a friend in which he said: "I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical a****** like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler."

Trump also has a track record of describing political opponents as "fascists."

Speaking in November 2023 he said: "We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections."

During a Minnesota campaign event in August 2020 Trump said: "Democrats want to...replace American freedom with left-wing fascism. Fascists, they are fascists. Some of them, not all of them."

Canadian political commentator Marlene Robertson said: "Vance you called Trump America's Hitler before anyone else."

Columbia Journalism School teacher Marlow Stern commented: "The only major politicians who've called trump hitler: j.d. vance and rfk jr."

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-says-nazi-should-not-used-insult-213
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Vice President JD Vance has urged Democrats to "stop telling your supporters that everybody who disagrees with you is a Nazi" if they want to end political violence in the United States.

"If you want to stop political violence stop attacking our law enforcement as the Gestapo, if you want to stop political violence stop telling your supporters that everybody who disagrees with you is a Nazi."

House Democrat Eric Swalwell asked: "Why did @JDVance call Trump 'America's Hitler.'"

Vance sent a message to a friend in which he said: "I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical a****** like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler."

Trump also has a track record of describing political opponents as "fascists."

Speaking in November 2023 he said: "We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections."

During a Minnesota campaign event in August 2020 Trump said: "Democrats want to...replace American freedom with left-wing fascism. Fascists, they are fascists. Some of them, not all of them."

Canadian political commentator Marlene Robertson said: "Vance you called Trump America's Hitler before anyone else."

Columbia Journalism School teacher Marlow Stern commented: "The only major politicians who've called trump hitler: j.d. vance and rfk jr."

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-says-nazi-should-not-used-insult-213
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The right wants Charlie Kirk’s death to be a “George Floyd moment”

A conservative explains what Kirk meant to the MAGA movement — and how it’s reacting to his death.

By Zack Beauchamp | Sep 24, 2025, 1:14 PM CDT

https://www.vox.com/on-the-right-newsletter/462695/charlie-kirk-george
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It is impossible, I think, to grasp the terrible consequences of Charlie Kirk’s death without understanding who he was in life.

Liberals had a dim view of that track record — focusing on his often-offensive radio broadcasts and contributions to President Donald Trump’s authoritarian project (like sending seven buses to the January 6 protest). However, to conservatives, he was something very different: not just an effective political organizer but a living symbol of democratic politics done the right way.

I must admit that this second perspective doesn’t come naturally to me. But I wanted to understand it better, so I reached out to Tanner Greer — a conservative author and essayist who had written brilliantly about what Kirk meant to the right on his blog The Scholar’s Stage.

In his piece, Greer argues that Kirk was “the indispensable man” on the populist right: Nobody else had his genius for organization or his extensive connections with nearly everyone of note in the MAGA movement. On an ideological level, per Greer, Kirk represented a vision of politics in which the populist right competes on the left’s turf, from universities to elections, and wins in direct political combat. In this, he stood against MAGA’s most radical anti-democratic voices.
https://scholars-stage.org/bullets-and-ballots-the-legacy-of-charlie-k
irk/

So when he was killed, Greer explains, his many friends and allies saw it as proof that the broader left was now incapable of coexisting with even someone as genial and small-d democratic as Kirk — giving rise to the vehement, even authoritarian, response of people like Stephen Miller and Vice President JD Vance. Now, much of the right believes it’s their turn to seize control of culture, to have a version of the left’s “George Floyd moment” of 2020.

I didn’t agree with much of the thinking Greer described. But I found his explanation of it, to borrow a phrase, “indispensable.”

He helped me understand why leading Republicans blame an ill-defined “they” for Kirk’s killing, rather than a shooter who seemingly acted alone, and just how emotional these conservatives must be in the wake of Kirk’s passing. If we are to keep sharing a country, you need to understand this perspective — perhaps especially if you disagree with it.

What follows is a transcript of our conversation, edited for length and clarity.

Tell me what you think most people who only knew Kirk from his radio broadcasts missed about him.

Second only to Donald Trump himself, Kirk is probably the most important individual in creating the current intellectual and organizational landscape of the MAGA movement. You wouldn’t get any of this at all if all you knew of him was some guy who’s willing to say shocking things on the internet.

In the piece, I suggest there’s [several] aspects of Charlie Kirk that made him a very powerful individual. https://scholars-stage.org/bullets-and-ballots-the-legacy-of-charlie-k
irk/

First, the size of his audience. His radio show had about 500,000 people who listened to it. His TikTok channel had 7 million followers. He’s had campus debates that had upwards of 2 billion views in total all across the world. Five million Twitter followers on top of that. So he had this giant megaphone. If he wanted to come out and publicly take a position, Republicans would listen.

The second thing that he had was TPUSA and the little organizations that were built off of it. TPUSA is a very large, 850- to 900-chapter organization. This is a mass mobilization machine. This is a mass talent-building machine, as future political leaders often come from people who were TPUSA chapter leaders in their universities. And then on top of that, he builds these other outreach organizations. He has a giant outreach organization for evangelical church leaders.

Then he has a vote-getting machine that is very active in swing states in the 2024 election — most Republicans seem to think that TPUSA’s Turning Point Action Committee might’ve gotten 10 to 20,000 votes in Arizona, which is basically the margin of a [close] election. They had perfected the strategy of basically primarying people for not being MAGA enough in Arizona, which is TPUSA’s organizational home, and they were going to go state to state to state in the near future.

Your third source of power is that he’s this connector.

Donors love him. He’s famously charismatic. Because he himself had kind of raised up this whole generation of new activists, he knew who was the best potential staffers or the best potential state House candidates or congressional candidates. There are several congressional candidates who came from TPUSA and are in Congress right now. And because he was running this podcast where he’s talking to the existing class of staffers, the existing media magnates, the existing politicians, he’s at the center of this network of people. And this is probably one of his most important roles in the right, especially the more MAGA right. He was constantly working to get people from one part or one of these constituencies to meet them with somebody else.

You wrote, “There are a good four dozen people in the Trump administration who owe their appointments to an introduction Kirk made on their behalf. And this was not only true of the Trump administration, but also across Congress and state governments and in news agencies like Fox News.“

It’s a guesstimate. The number might be underestimated — because Kirk was involved in a very personal way in vetting for this administration’s appointments.

You have to understand the right has a problem: We have a much smaller talent pool than the left. And if you are restricting it even further, if you need to restrict your talent pool to people who are more MAGA — people [who] can pass a Laura Loomer test — then you have an even smaller number of potential people. And so Kirk basically spends all the months of November and December and January, every day, meeting with [then-White House personnel director] Sergio Gor, talking about, “Here’s somebody who might be good for this position, here’s somebody who shouldn’t be in that position.” And he wasn’t the only one doing that, but he was a big part of getting people in the door and keeping some people out.

But this isn’t just true for little [roles]. This is true for Cabinet members. JD Vance is there because of Charlie Kirk.

During [2016], Charlie Kirk took a three-month break from TPUSA to basically be Don Jr.‘s manager. And Kirk sends a text to Don and says [something like], “I know that this guy [Vance] said these things about how Trump was Hitler back in the time, but he’s had a conversion. He’s one of us now. You need to meet with him. You need to take him seriously. You need to introduce him to your dad.”

That’s how JD Vance got in with cahoots with Trump in the first place, just because of Charlie Kirk. If you listen to the Charlie Kirk radio show that JD Vance hosted, he mentions this story. And almost every single person they had from the administration come on has a very similar story. There’s half a dozen Cabinet-level or people just below that who can say, “Kirk advocated for me to have this position, and that helped tip the balance.”

You can hear that not just in what they said, but the way in which they said it, in the obvious pathos and emotionality that came across in the discussions of Kirk during that radio broadcast or during the funeral on Sunday night. They all say that they genuinely cared for Kirk.

Part of me thinks, “Well, everybody on the right wants to have been close to him now.” But listening to you talk and listening to some of the stories people tell, I think this is just actually true: that he really did mean a lot to a lot of the people that are in power right now. And so part of this vehement political reaction to Kirk’s death is born out of this deep emotional and personal connection with him.

I think that’s correct. If you look at the MAGA movement as a whole, Kirk was a lot of people’s friend. That’s why all these donors are able to give him so much money. He was very good at being very optimistic and being like, “We’re going to win, we can do this,” cheering people up.

This position at the center of the MAGA world network — in addition to these kind of institutional things that he built up, the big megaphone he had, his ability to basically leverage all of that into helping other people make connections — made him sort of an indispensable pillar of the movement.

So when he was shot, that was really not just an attack on somebody who says very controversial things. This is a person who helped pioneer [not only] the message, but also the institutions and the organizational networks of the current version of the right. And he did it by the time he was 31. An immensely talented individual.

One thing that’s also struck me in the responses and the way that these figures talk about Kirk’s death is the omnipresence of the word “they.” It’s “they” killed Charlie, “they” took Charlie from us, even though there’s no evidence that the shooter was in any kind of conspiracy.

So what do people on the right mean by “they?”

When George Floyd died in 2020, there was not a sense that this was the action of a single policeman, and if we put him in jail, then the problem’s over. There was rather a sense that you could only have a person like this policeman, who’s willing to stand on the neck of a Black man he’s just arrested until he dies — this could only happen if you have a larger systemic problem in America.

I think many, many people on the right want to have their own version of the 2020 moment, partially because their analysis is very structurally similar to how leftists thought about racism in 2020. They think there’s larger structural problems — that [the shooter] only can exist because of a larger culture that supports his conduct, excuses it, and allows it to happen.

All these people went through 2020 and they want to have a similar reckoning, because that was experienced by the right as a very harrowing event — where essentially every single institution in the United States, every university, every provost, most corporations all gave out statements talking about how what happened was an act of evil and we need to nationally atone for the sin. If you didn’t agree with that stuff, this felt very oppressive to you, like you were being chased out of the public sphere.

And I think this is the easiest way to make sense of why some people on the right feel very strongly that we need to do things like, say, take Jimmy Kimmel off the air.

They remember 2020, and they feel like if Jimmy Kimmel had gone against Black Lives Matter, he would’ve been taken off the air without the state. And we don’t have that same activist network [as the left], but we do have the state. And so we should try to create the same sort of structural cultural change that was imposed upon us in the Great Awokening.

Help me understand that comparison a little bit more. In the George Floyd scenario, it’s pretty easy to see what the structural roots of Derek Chauvin’s actions are — a policing sector, and a society more broadly, shot through with racism.

But in the Kirk case, what’s the equivalent force that created Kirk’s killer? Is it left-wing animosity toward conservatism? Is it mainstream liberal ideology? What is the thing that the violence against Kirk is supposed to be an outgrowth of? Who specifically are “they” that embody whatever the structure is?

This “they” will differ from person to person. I don’t think there’s a consensus. The possible options for “they” range from, at the narrowest, the kind of antifa people who are willing to use or at least endorse violence on the left. [At the broadest], it’s all the way to a [liberal] culture that sees Trump as inherently illegitimate and un-American and [as someone who] should be deplatformed.

Just to give you an example: Somebody was making a big deal out of a tweet that Vice President Harris had written in 2019, saying how basically, if we’re being honest with ourselves, Trump should be kicked off Twitter by now because of his bad comments. That was cited as an example of the left’s inherent desire to kick us out of public spaces. Very similar to when Hillary Clinton says, “[Half of] Trump supporters are a basket of deplorables.”

If you’re dehumanizing us, if you’re calling us deplorable, you’re basically saying we’re outside of the pale of American politics — then you are part of the “they” who basically dehumanizes someone like Kirk enough that he should be killed. I think that’s how they would say it.

I’m not trying to weigh in with my own opinions on this. I just want to understand better what is this “they”? Because to me, it seems analytically incoherent. JD Vance, for example, has brought up the Open Society Foundation, which in no plausible world had anything to do with Charlie Kirk’s death. But it was one of Vance’s political enemies.

Many actors on the right have for many years believed — and I have a lot of sympathies with this set of beliefs — that a lot of what the left has been about for the last decade, since the Great Awokening started, is basically making it difficult for conservatives to be part of the public sphere in a safe and confident way.

And that word “safe” is interesting because when you start talking about safety, you can start roping in several different streams, which I don’t think liberals would necessarily associate with each other, into one system. This allows you to say, okay, people being deplatformed on campuses, that’s one version of us not being able to participate publicly. All the way to the riots in 2020, which a lot of conservatives felt Democratic cities and the sitting government allowed — which made it impossible for a person like me to be in these urban spaces for X amount of time. They made these cities too dangerous for us to be in.

And that’s where people will do this kind of mining, where, okay, [liberal philanthropist George] Soros funded this Black Lives Matter-adjacent organization, which was making excuses for rioters here. That’s where they’ll kind of all connect that together.

Someone like you, you’ll look at that and say, “Well, what does that have to do with Charlie Kirk being assassinated by this [lone wolf]?” And I think a lot of people on the right will say, “No, no, no, this is a large systemic thing. All you guys excused the violence in 2020, excused antifa, excused taking over CHAZ, excused all this stuff because you normatively agreed with it and thought that Trump was bad enough that that this sort of violence was okay. And that’s the same attitude, that’s the same world that creates young guys who want to go and shoot one of our most prominent leaders.”

I think that’s how they would connect those dots.

Now, how does that attitude relate to something you talk about in the article at length, which is Kirk’s role in giving young conservatives permission to be themselves publicly in places like a university?

This question of what he meant to the young conservatives is quite relevant to this larger question: What is the “they”?

The way I explain it in this piece — this is really hard for liberals to believe — is that, if you were a young conservative on campus from 2013 to 2022, you felt afraid. Even when Trump was in power, a lot of these conservatives felt afraid. And this fear is really core to a lot of what has happened, I mean, really in this administration as well as people’s reactions to Kirk’s death.

If you were a young person on the right — you believe something like transgenderism is a lie or a mental disease, which is a pretty standard belief on the right — you were afraid to say what you believed because you felt like you would be socially ostracized, people on campus would bully you, harass you, treat you differently, you would have professors who might grade you differently, you wouldn’t have good job prospects, you would be afraid of becoming a viral example.

This is the environment in which TPUSA begins its giant rise. And Kirk’s campus tours, the sort of thing he was doing when he was shot, this is actually what they’re designed to combat. Yes, they created some viral clips, but that really was not their main purpose. Because Kirk was a campus activist first, a media figure second.

The purpose of these was for Kirk to go into these universities and say, “Hey, guys, look, we can be part of the public sphere. There are more of you than it seems. You guys are all afraid to stand up and show you’re conservative. I’m going to come here, I’m going to organize a TPUSA chapter, and you’re going to see that you’re not alone. Second, I’m going to go and debate all these people around you, anyone who wants to come up. A professor, a student, anyone who wants to can come and debate me. And I can show you guys that these beliefs we have are defendable. We can stand up, we can be part of the public sphere.”

And so there’s a lot of young conservatives who basically say, “Charlie Kirk made me unafraid to be an activist. Charlie Kirk is the one who made me unafraid to stand up for what I believed.”

Without someone like Charlie, the only people who would stand up for their conservative beliefs tended to be either extremely principled people or they were just assholes who like to be disagreeable. I’m sure you’ve probably met both of those sorts when you were in college. If you want to have a movement that isn’t just people like that, you have to find some way to inspire people to stand up. And that’s what Kirk was doing. He’s modeling to all these kids, look, you guys can do this too.

And that’s who was murdered. And so when the guy whose whole message is “you don’t have to be afraid” is shot, then it makes some sense why people might be feeling afraid.

That’s where I wanted to bring us to at the end: how both sides should feel about their enemies.

I have this fear, given Kirk’s personal significance, that the right’s authoritarian reaction to his death is not going to be a short-lived thing — you may disagree. But if Charlie Kirk was trying to create a politics where people who disagree could engage, the aftermath of his death is destroying that possibility. It’s making it very, very, very difficult for people across partisan lines to view each other with anything but mistrust and suspicion.

So what are we supposed to do about that?

I think there’s a little bit of a crossroads here. I think the right has to decide whether Kirk’s life or his death is the thing that should be remembered.

I think that Kirk’s life, although many aspects of it are very repellent to people on the left, is an example of how this conservative national populist thing can be done without authoritarian measures and be very popular. I personally am on the side of saying, “Guys, look, Kirk actually showed us the path for how to make this work, and we’d be stupid if we left it for something that we don’t know if it will work.”

What I’ve been telling people on the right is, if you seriously believe you’re going to have a 2020 moment, you guys are somewhat deluding yourselves. Because 2020 had very many special things that led up to it.

Obviously, you had a pandemic, everyone was cooped in their house and wanted to get out and be out. But in addition to that, you had years of activism. Black Lives Matter started seven years before 2020. And the New York Times had basically doubled its reporting on racism and racial problems in America in the three years that preceded 2020.

You had a huge amount of intellectual work being done. You had a huge amount of activism being done. And in many ways, 2020 was the culmination of a decade’s worth of theorizing and activism and changing public opinion. So I don’t think this attempt to use the state to have a 2020 moment is going to work. I just don’t think the public is there: I think it’s going to backfire.

And I understand, too, that certain people have a bad opinion of Kirk. But I do think that the impulse of some on the left to take this moment to say, “Well, Charlie Kirk was just this terrible person in all these ways, he said this terrible and that terrible thing, and we’re being censored if we don’t see otherwise” — to put it very frankly, lots of people on the [more radical] right are very happy to see those takes.

The debate the right has been having for a long time is “Do we think that the other side can live with us? How much of a threat really are they to us?” And so when the reaction of some people is to condemn the violence, but then talk about how actually it’s good that he’s gone, which is more or less what these people do, it sounds more like you are part of this structure of ideas that makes it acceptable for right-wing people to be killed.

A lot of people, a lot of politicians, understand this and have gone out of their way not to be inflammatory on all this. I think clearly this is what [former Vox co-founder and now New York Times columnist] Ezra Klein was thinking when he wrote that editorial. But he got dragged through the mud for that, and he really had to justify himself showing up, talking to people on the right.

Maybe it’s helpful if folks on the left don’t just discount Kirk as that terrible racist who says all these terrible things. If that’s the message you took away from all this, I think you’ll really misunderstand both what Kirk meant to the movement, but also what his death means to the movement as well.

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No. We don't.

We've already proven how infinitely better as human beings that we are than you and your people are.

You are cancer, Second.

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No. We don't.

We've already proven how infinitely better as human beings that we are than you and your people are.

You are cancer, Second.
Since Charlie Kirk’s assassination, the Trump administration has been speed-running an attack on the “radical left.” And the tactics it has been using are darkly reminiscent of the Red Scare of the 1940s and ’50s. So what can that period teach us about the current moment and what the Trump administration might do next? How far could this go?

Corey Robin is a political theorist at Brooklyn College. He’s an expert on McCarthyism and the author of the book “The Reactionary Mind,” one of the most insightful books you can read on the Trumpist right. In this conversation, he walks through what happened in the first and second Red Scares and what made him start worrying about the Trump administration.

Read the full transcript here: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/24/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-corey-ro
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Download Corey Robin’s “The Reactionary Mind” for FREE from https://annas-archive.org/search?q=Corey+Robin



Late in life, William F. Buckley made a confession to Corey Robin. Capitalism is "boring," said the founding father of the American right. "Devoting your life to it," as conservatives do, "is horrifying if only because it's so repetitious. It's like sex." With this unlikely conversation began Robin's decade-long foray into the conservative mind. What is conservatism, and what's truly at stake for its proponents? If capitalism bores them, what excites them?

In The Reactionary Mind, Robin traces conservatism back to its roots in the reaction against the French Revolution. He argues that the right was inspired, and is still united, by its hostility to emancipating the lower orders. Some conservatives endorse the free market; others oppose it. Some criticize the state; others celebrate it. Underlying these differences is the impulse to defend power and privilege against movements demanding freedom and equality — while simultaneously making populist appeals to the masses. Despite their opposition to these movements, conservatives favor a dynamic conception of politics and society — one that involves self-transformation, violence, and war. They are also highly adaptive to new challenges and circumstances. This partiality to violence and capacity for reinvention have been critical to their success.

Written by a highly-regarded, keen observer of the contemporary political scene, The Reactionary Mind ranges widely, from Edmund Burke to Antonin Scalia and Donald Trump, and from John C. Calhoun to Ayn Rand. It advances the notion that all right-wing ideologies, from the eighteenth century through today, are improvisations on a theme: the felt experience of having power, seeing it threatened, and trying to win it back. When its first edition appeared in 2011, The Reactionary Mind set off a fierce debate. It has since been acclaimed as "the book that predicted Trump" ( New Yorker ) and "one of the more influential political works of the last decade" ( Washington Monthly ). Now updated to include Trump's election and his first one hundred days in office, The Reactionary Mind is more relevant than ever.

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Stop quoting me and posting bullshit as a response dude.

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Since the assassination of Charlie Kirk, Trump and his top aides have spoken of their plans to bring cases against people who give money to anti-Trump causes. “My administration will find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity and to other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it, as well as those who go after our judges, law enforcement officials, and everyone else who brings order to our country,” Trump said on September 10.

In real life, there is no known evidence that any organization funded Kirk’s assassin. But there are donors to left-wing causes that Trump wants to defund. In the White House today, the president signed an order to investigate those donors. He cited the liberal donors Reid Hoffman and George Soros as potential targets. In April, Trump ordered an investigation of ActBlue, the Democratic fundraising platform. https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/25/politics/trump-memorandum-probes-groups
-aiding-political-violence

Trump faces a very immediate problem. He and his family have already amassed an enormous fortune in the first nine months of his second term, in great part from gifts and deals with foreign powers. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/15/us/politics/trump-uae-chips-witkoff
-world-liberty.html That behavior is likely to be investigated if Trump’s party loses control of either house of Congress in November 2026. Trump’s bad economic management has put that control at extreme risk. His overall approval numbers have dropped to the very low 40s; his economic management, to the mid-30s. Grocery prices are up, and electricity prices are rising even faster. If honest congressional elections were held today, the Republicans’ two-seat margin in the House of Representatives would vanish. The protective screens for Trump’s self-enrichment would vanish with it.

The president is driven by intense ego needs. He hates Comey for his role investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election—as he hates his own former national security adviser John Bolton for refusing to comply with his scheme to extort Ukraine in 2019.

But Trump is also a gifted survivor, with a keen instinct for the weaknesses of individuals and nations. The American justice system is only as good as the people who staff it. Led by Kash Patel and Pam Bondi, the system can be an abundant resource for a president who wants to use the law to frighten opponents away from the political process. Troops in the streets of Washington, D.C., have deterred residents from going to bars and restaurants in 2025. Those troops could be used to dissuade residents of blue cities in red states from standing in voting lines in 2026. Selective prosecution can be used to cut the flow of money to Democratic candidates.

Yes, Trump’s politicization of the Department of Justice is a backward-looking expression of hurt feelings. It’s also another step in a forward-looking plot to shred the rule of law in order to pervert the next election and protect his corruption from accountability. James Comey’s rights and liberties are not the only ones at risk today. So is your own right to participate in free and fair elections in order to render a verdict on Trump’s invasion of those rights and liberties. Trump understands the stakes—and has been astoundingly transparent about his intentions. Will you listen and understand as clearly as he speaks and threatens?

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Nobody cares.

Go post on BlueSky with the rest of your endangered species.

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Nexstar and Sinclair bring Jimmy Kimmel’s show back to local TV stations

Updated 4:56 PM CDT, September 26, 2025

https://apnews.com/article/jimmy-kimmel-sinclair-affiliates-40489e9058
a609029ebcb2ef894221e9

Kimmel’s suspension lasted less than a week, while the affiliate blackout stood for just over a week.

Meanwhile, the Trump family has taken in $5,000,000,000 worth of bribes from corporations and wealthy individuals so far this year in exchange for favorable treatment from the IRS and the rest of the Federal government.

Here’s How Much The Trump Kids Have Made Because Of The Presidency
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2025/09/22/heres-how-much-th
e-trump-kids-have-made-because-of-the-presidency/

Trump Family Amasses $5 Billion Fortune After Crypto Launch
https://www.wsj.com/finance/currencies/trump-family-amasses-6-billion-
fortune-after-crypto-launch-567faec5

Donald Trump’s Presidency Reportedly Has Had a Significant Impact on Barron Trump’s Net Worth
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/donald-trump-pr
esidency-reportedly-had-170315840.html
The teenager has received $150 million in bribes this year and will receive an additional estimated $525 million at 21 years old.

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Imagine a bullet passing through your skull. Still yawning?

If words won't work to modify rotten behavior, bullets will, which brings us back to why assassination was tacitly written into the Constitution by the Second Amendment. According to the right-wingers on the Supreme Court, that amendment is for suppressing the tyranny of empowered loudmouth ignoramuses when words won't.

Oliver Kornetzke described Trump on August 18, 2025

Behold. The festering carcass of American rot shoved into an ill-fitting suit: the sleaze of a conman, the cowardice of a draft dodger, the gluttony of a parasite, the racism of a Klansman, the sexism of a back-alley creep, the ignorance of a bar-stool drunk, and the greed of a hedge-fund ghoul — all spray-painted orange and paraded like a prize hog at a county fair. Not a president. Not even a man. Just the diseased distillation of everything this country swears it isn’t but has always been — arrogance dressed up as exceptionalism, stupidity passed off as common sense, cruelty sold as toughness, greed exalted as ambition, and corruption worshiped like gospel. It is America's shadow made flesh, a rotting pumpkin idol proving that when a nation kneels before money, power, and spite, it doesn't just lose its soul — it sh*ts out this bloated obscenity and calls it a leader.

https://www.threads.com/tag/behold-the-festering-carcass

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Imagine a bullet passing through your skull. Still yawning?


Archived.

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6ix, archive this, you evil, middle-aged, mentally-ill fool with religious feelings stirring your soul:

Charlie Kirk and the ‘Third Great Awakening’

MAGA is embracing the language of a rising Christian movement.

By Stephanie McCrummen | September 27, 2025, 7 AM ET

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/09/charlie-kirk-spir
itual-warfare/684389/

In the two weeks since Charlie Kirk’s killing, Trump-administration officials and allies have not only promised a sweeping crackdown on liberal groups. They have marshaled the language of a rising charismatic Christian movement to describe their political agenda as a cosmic battle against the forces of evil.

At Kirk’s memorial service on Sunday, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth described the moment at hand as “not a political war” and “not even a cultural war—it’s a spiritual war.” The right-wing influencer Benny Johnson called out the heads of the Justice Department, the State Department, and the newly rebranded “Department of War”: “God has instituted them. God has given them power over our nation and our land,” he told the crowd of roughly 70,000 people at State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona. “May we pray that our rulers here—rightfully instituted and given power by our God—wield the sword for the terror of evil men in our nation.” Holding up a rosary, the far-right activist Jack Posobiec asked the crowd: “Are you ready to put on the full armor of God and face the evil in high places and the spiritual warfare before us? Then put on the full armor of God. Do it now. Now is the time. This is the place.”

The exception was Kirk’s widow, Erika, who said that she forgave Kirk’s killer because “it is what Christ did, and is what Charlie would do,” and that “the answer to hate is not hate.” Two days after Kirk had been shot and killed on a Utah college campus, though, she, too, had said that “the spiritual warfare is palpable.”

The proliferation of this kind of language is a sign of the growing momentum of a movement often known as the New Apostolic Reformation, which has become the vanguard of the broader Christian right, and whose ideas Kirk had begun to embrace before his death. Followers believe that a fresh outpouring of the Holy Spirit is under way, a third “Great Awakening” that is raising up new apostles and prophets and an army of God; for them, spiritual warfare is a matter of combatting demonic forces and bringing all of government and society under God’s dominion. At this point, concepts popularized by the NAR have spread to churches in cities and towns across the country, supplying Donald Trump with millions of followers who believe that God anointed him to usher in a new Christendom.

The prophets and apostles of the NAR often speak of a time when spiritual warfare will break out “in the natural,” meaning real life, giving rise to a “warrior generation,” as one prominent prophet, Rick Joyner, has put it. He has written about a “new breed of Christians” and described how “churches will start being thought of more as military bases than congregations.” Many NAR leaders who rallied their followers to the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, saw the insurrection as a form of spiritual warfare. And although they have not called for actual warfare in response to Kirk’s killing, leaders have framed the assassination as the work of demonic forces rising against God’s kingdom.

On his podcast, Lance Wallnau, an influential NAR leader who described Kirk as a friend, called Kirk “the first martyr of the third Great Awakening.” He and others compared Kirk to the biblical figure Stephen, who was stoned to death by a Jewish council for preaching the gospel. They said that Kirk was killed by satanic forces. They described leftist radicalization as a “demonic evil spreading across America like a cancer,” in the words of Sean Feucht, a popular singer in the movement. They cast Kirk’s political opponents as “enemies of the true cross,” as Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts put it.

“Christians must learn to hate again,” a Texas pastor posted on X, citing a Psalm that reads, “Do I not hate those who hate you, O Lord?”

“The preacher in Ecclesiastes tells us that there is a time for love and a time for hate, a time for war and a time for peace,” Doug Wilson, a theologian who leads a network of churches, including one that Hegseth attends, posted on social media. “This is not the time for love and peace.”

Similar messages could be found in churches across the country after Kirk’s killing, including a square-angled beige-brick building called Church on the Rock that I visited in Oklahoma City on the Sunday after his death. The pastor there that day, Judith Benefiel, told the congregation of a few hundred people that “it was evil that took him out—and the Bible says that we don’t wrestle with flesh and blood but against principalities and powers. Amen?”

Benefiel said that evil was “trying to consume our nation,” that Kirk was martyred for fighting against it. “I don’t want to live in a country where Christians are martyred.”

“God told us: Go and possess the earth,” she said. “Who will rise up? Who will rise up? How far are you willing to go for the Lord?”

Although Kirk was best known for his organization Turning Point USA, which swept droves of college students into the MAGA movement, in more recent years he’d founded TPUSA Faith, which tapped into and mobilized the energy gathering in this realm of charismatic Christianity. At the time of his death, Kirk had embraced a concept popularized by NAR leaders called the “Seven Mountains Mandate,” the idea that Christians are called to dominate seven spheres of society, from government to education to business; Turning Point Faith had an arm devoted to each sphere, according to Matthew Boedy, the author of a forthcoming book that describes how Kirk turned the mandate into a “central organizing element of the Trump era.” Kirk spoke often of creating “biblical citizens.” He argued that the separation of Church and state is a “fabrication” that was “made up by secular humanists.” He spoke of God’s design for humanity—traditional marriage, two genders, biblical education—as “beautiful” and “true.” He described Democratic leaders as “maggots, vermin, and swine” and said that the Democratic Party “supports everything that God hates.”

The question remains how grassroots believers will understand and respond to the calls for spiritual battle that have only ratcheted up in recent weeks. Within days of Kirk’s death, followers of his had already taken up the cause in one form or another. In Oklahoma City, a man named Devin Shipman had set up his own protest on a grassy corner in front of a suburban veterinary clinic whose owner had reportedly written that Kirk was a “right wing stupid fuck MAGA activist” and asked, “Could we actually be getting smart and culling the sick ones!!!” The veterinarian’s name was on a growing list of people accused of saying critical things of Kirk, which was circulating on social media and would eventually gather millions of views. Shipman told me that he had seen the vet’s post on Facebook, gotten angry, and prayed to God, asking if he should print the veterinarian’s words on a four-by-eight-foot banner and post it in front of the clinic to expose a person he considered to be “a symptom of pure, unchecked evil.”

“I didn’t get told no,” Shipman said, and so he’d been sitting in a lawn chair in front of the banner every day since the Friday after Kirk’s killing, and now it was Monday.

He said that he definitely believed that a spiritual battle was under way, and that Jesus Christ could show up at any moment. A Newsmax personality broadcast Shipman’s vigil live to his 800,000 social-media followers. After that, at least a dozen people had stopped by to support Shipman’s effort, staking American flags in the grass. At this point, two men were sitting with Shipman, all three of them armed with guns. Shipman’s was under his sun hat in the grass. They waved at drivers who passed by honking their horns or pulled into the parking lot.

“Thank you for what you’re doing,” said a woman who had walked over with her son. “I’ve been getting the word out.”

“Thank you, sir,” said the son, a skinny teenager wearing a large cross necklace. He shook Shipman’s hand.

More cars passed and honked. The men talked about Kirk’s killing and what it meant. “Tucker said we are seeing spiritual war spilling over into the natural,” said the man sitting to Shipman’s right, Paul Ainsworth, referring to Tucker Carlson. “The evil side of things has had their way for a long time. They haven’t gotten pushback. They crossed a line here.”

By 5 p.m., the men had decided that they’d accomplished their mission. The veterinary clinic had been shut down all day; a sign said closed for business. They folded up the banner. “I guess he was successful,” Ainsworth said, referring to Shipman’s idea. “This guy’s gone.”

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Archived.

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6ix, archive this, you evil, middle-aged, mentally-ill fool with religious feelings stirring your soul:


Nah. I'm not wasting my time reading a paragraph of your bullshit let alone that wall of text.

Keep your hate to yourself, dildo.

I'm just going to keep laughing about your dead party.

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Nah. I'm not wasting my time reading a paragraph of your bullshit let alone that wall of text.

Keep your hate to yourself, dildo.

I'm just going to keep laughing about your dead party.
I don't read is the guiding principle of all Trumptards that I have known. Oh, some do read novels, but read something real? Very rare.

From 2020, five years ago, Anne Applebaum saw it coming.

The crisis isn’t Trump. It’s the Republican Party.

Anne Applebaum wrote the book on why people choose to collaborate with authoritarian regimes. So what does she think of the GOP?

By Ezra Klein | Nov 13, 2020, 7:20 AM CST

https://www.vox.com/21562116/anne-applebaum-twilight-of-democracy-gop-
trump-election-fraud-2020-biden-the-ezra-klein-show

I’m afraid that I think it’s a little bit more sinister than that. I think that — certainly on Trump’s part, and other Republicans are probably coming to see this the same way as well — this is an attempt to create a new kind of base: an enraged receiving base, which will always think that the election was stolen and which will always assume that something went wrong and will always feel that they were deprived of something. And this base will then have uses in the future.

I don’t believe it will be all of the Republican Party. I can’t tell you right now how many of them it will be. But it will be a significant number of people. And in some congressional districts and some states, it could even be a majority. And this will be a base that is usable. This will be a base that not only dislikes the Democratic Party or disagrees with them, it will think that the Democratic Party is evil and anti-democratic — that they have stolen the election.

Think about what that means. That means that they aren’t even a legitimate political party. It means that there is a base of people who will be not just skeptical of mainstream media — whatever you think mainstream media is, which may even include Fox now. They will be not just skeptical of Fox, CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times, and the Philadelphia Inquirer. They will think all of those institutions are part of a deliberately constructed conspiracy to steal the presidency. And that kind of feeling — that conviction that the other side isn’t just wrong, it’s evil and traitorous — that’s then a useful group of people who can be motivated politically and maybe in other ways in the future.

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Exploiting Male Rage

Charlie Kirk’s audience consisted to a large extent of resentful young white men who felt that modern society wasn’t delivering the status that they deserved.

Given MAGA’s brazen attempts to exploit Kirk’s murder to suppress freedom of expression, I’m sure someone will call what I just said hate speech. But it’s actually just an honest description of reality.

More at https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/exploiting-male-rage about angry poor white trash marching in an Army for Trump.

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Yeah, Okay Paul.

You've been wrong about everything you've ever said, so just keep spouting bullshit as long as they're paying you for it.

There will be a special place in hell for you one day.

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Nah. I'm not wasting my time reading a paragraph of your bullshit let alone that wall of text.

Keep your hate to yourself, dildo.

I'm just going to keep laughing about your dead party.
I don't read


... any of your bullshit, your plagiarisms or articles from people you post that are always wrong in the end.

You've been silenced. You did it to yourself. Congratulations.

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September 23rd:

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Should have asked this sooner... What are your predictions for tonight? For this week? For the future of Jimmy Kimmel Live?

Here's mine:

...

If they were smart, they got some real Democrat Party talent to write it for him too. I'm talking pulling Axelrod out of his recent retirement... or maybe even getting Rahm Emanuel (a possible future Democrat Party Presidential Candidate) on as a scriptwriter too (which could be alluded to in his possible future run), and then have Bill Maher proofread and edit it, or at least give the final thumbs up/down before it gets in Jimmy's hands.



Rahm Emanuel, Weighing Presidential Bid, Navigates a Democratic Party Moving Left

Party long-timer takes stage in Iowa to test political waters, leaving behind past criticism of Democrats

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/rahm-emanuel-democratic-party-70a5
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Do not allow this to happen, people.

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Keep it real please


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Exploiting Male Rage

Charlie Kirk’s audience consisted to a large extent of resentful young white men who felt that modern society wasn’t delivering the status that they deserved.

Given MAGA’s brazen attempts to exploit Kirk’s murder to suppress freedom of expression, I’m sure someone will call what I just said hate speech. But it’s actually just an honest description of reality.

More at https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/exploiting-male-rage about angry poor white trash marching in an Army for Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



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September 24th, 2025:

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11:50 - "Well... I do tonight." Ending the monologue, referencing the great ratings that he almost surely got tonight.


Yeah, Jimmy. We all knew tonight's ratings were going to be huge.

What are next week's going to look like?


Jimmy Kimmel’s short-lived ratings spike comes to screeching halt

https://nypost.com/2025/09/29/media/jimmy-kimmel-sheds-64-of-audience-
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Jimmy Kimmel’s ratings spike was short-lived.

Disney briefly suspended ABC’s “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” after the host’s remarks about the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk sparked widespread backlash. After an about-face from Disney, the liberal comedian returned last Tuesday, and Kimmel’s emotional return drew a massive audience, but viewers haven’t stuck around.

On Thursday, “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” averaged 2.3 million total viewers — a staggering 64% drop from the 6.5 million who tuned in for Tuesday’s much-hyped return.

Kimmel shed even more viewers in the advertiser-coveted demographic of adults aged 25-54, with Thursday’s episode hemorrhaging 73% of viewers from the critical category.

“Jimmy Kimmel Live!” pulled in 1.7 million viewers among the key demo for Tuesday’s return but plummeted to 465,000 only 48 hours later.

“Jimmy Kimmel Live!” also lost significant viewers in the younger demographic of adults aged 18-49, managing 1.2 million on Tuesday but quickly losing 73% to settle for only 334,000 on Thursday.








Also, on September 24th, 2025:

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It all sounded great, Jimmy.

Now stop being a chronic fuck face and stop riling up all the other chronic fuck faces five nights a week. Just do your fucking job and entertain us.


I'm looking for the country to heal, and I'm looking for people finding ways to finally, GENUINELY try to turn down the temperature.

You, Jimmy, are in a position of influence that can make this happen. But if you go right back to the show you used to do up until last week and pretend that more than half the country didn't hate you going into last week, your viewership is going to tank again and everyone is just going to keep being pissed off at each other forever.

I'd suggest for all of us that you don't do that. And I'd suggest that you encourage people like Ted and Second to stop being assholes to everybody else all the time too.

Maybe this will work out well for everyone in the end.

Honestly, I don't think this monologue could have possibly been any better than it was, given your current vantage point. What you choose to do with that now is up to you.

The ball is in your court.



Way to fuck it up brother. Just like everyone knew you were going to do.

Shame.

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This Is the Moment Christian Nationalists Have Been Waiting For

Some MAGA Christians see Charlie Kirk’s killing as the start of a “revival”—and the moment for remaking America.

By Molly Olmstead | Oct 01, 2025 5:45 AM

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/10/charlie-kirk-killing-maga-
christian-right.html

“A century from now, when they write of the two or three pivotal moments that led to the saving of Western civilization, they will write that the sacrifice of Charles James Kirk was the turning point,” Jack Posobiec, the right-wing influencer, told the masses at Kirk’s memorial. “By returning the people to Almighty God.”

The religious right says that return is already underway, that Kirk’s killing has inspired something remarkable in America. Thousands of people, you’ve been told, are responding to Charlie Kirk’s death by pulling out dusty Bibles or wandering into their nearest churches. Pastors describe packed pews; priests report fielding questions about adult baptism. You can see the evidence yourself: On social media, people are making teary videos professing to have rediscovered Jesus; in the comments, former atheists share stories of finding peace and purpose in prayer.

But they’re not calling it a return, they’re calling it a “revival.” That was a term that kept popping up during Kirk’s memorial rally on Sept. 20. “Charlie started a political movement but unleashed a spiritual revival,” Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth said. “After Charlie’s assassination, we didn’t see violence,” Kirk’s wife, Erika, said. “Instead, we saw what my husband always prayed he would see in this country. We saw revival.” The White House X account captioned a video from the event “A REVIVAL.”

A “revival,” in the Christian tradition, can mean a number of things to do with an outpouring of faith. Traditionally, among Protestant Christianity, where the term is most often used, revival is evoked for a kind of born-again moment, in which people experience a sudden and overpowering personal connection with God; it sometimes happens in mass movements, with hundreds or thousands overcome in the same wave. In more Pentecostal-style Christianity, it can mean an awakening to the power of the Holy Spirit and the “gifts” that come with that—speaking in tongues, for example, or faith healing. Some traditions consider revival necessary to create the kingdom of God on Earth, to pave the way for Jesus’ second coming. Regardless, revival has traditionally been spoken of as a profound divine blessing.

This is something different, something more directly and overtly political. Coming from political actors and MAGA evangelical leaders, the revival they’re describing is a kind of fulfillment of political prophecies, an awakening of the American public to the calls from God—to embrace a version of Christianity that conquers American society and leaves it transformed. The society that this group seeks to create scorns what it sees as degrading elements of the secular world, abortion and LGBTQ+ rights chief among them. It prioritizes traditional understandings of family life, with mass media that celebrate traditional gender roles. It elects into office faithful Christians, men and women who base their laws and policies and court rulings on their religious beliefs, with non-Christian candidates being pushed from office. It encourages schools and other public institutions to openly engage in Christian religious practices. To transform society, the public and their leaders will need to understand that, above all else, political matters are not about partisan differences but the side of the angels against the forces of evil.

There’s a catch here: We have no idea whether Kirk’s death is prompting a mass popular embrace of conservative Christianity. It’s being loudly asserted, but hard, measurable data—such as numbers on church attendance or reliable polling on public opinion—are not yet available. And if there is a surge in religious fervor, it’s too soon to know if it will last.

But for this particular revival, a mass shift in public sentiment may be ancillary. Given the political nature of this project, it may be far more important for the movement’s leaders to create the impression of mass embrace of the religious right—and then leverage that perception to claim more power. Because while Kirk’s killing is what the movement sees as the catalyst for their revival, it’s far from the beginning of their ambitions to radically transform American society. Christian nationalists have been waiting for this moment for years.

Modern Christian nationalism—the MAGA-aligned movement that sees the United States as a fundamentally Christian nation, with a government and society that should be explicitly ordered by Christian values—emerged in its current form from white evangelicals’ alliance with Donald Trump. This Christian nationalism is more diverse in its coalition than previous Christian right movements and is ordered around Trump’s cult of personality, rather than any political assertions from religious leaders. And it has seen moments of particular potency in the news cycles of the Trump era, with additional vibrancy during the wave of anti-“critical race theory” school board meetings, the celebration after the fall of Roe v. Wade, and the ongoing furor over anything that smacks of tolerance for transgender people. But before Kirk’s killing, there had not been a single moment of tragedy to rally around, a single dramatic moment to unite the movement in its grief and anger, to push it to grander ambitions—to the promise of a “revival.”

The last time the religious right experienced a moment of such potential was in the early George W. Bush years, after the modern culture wars had broken out. At the time, the Christian right was led by evangelical institutions and conservative Christian pastors, and the movement was smarting from the Clinton years. Bush seemed to promise a new and energized ally for their movement, and evangelicals were thrilled that this anti-intellectual Texan had campaigned on his faith and on his Christian morals, claiming that Jesus was his favorite political philosopher. Christian culture responded: The apocalyptic-thriller Left Behind series became bestsellers, and Christian rock surged in popularity. “There was a hope and excitement and sense that perhaps we were on the verge of revival,” said Matthew Sutton, a history professor at Washington State University who researches Christian politics.

The Sept. 11 terrorist attacks could have been the cultural moment to tip everything over into a kind of furious religious frenzy. But as Sutton noted, Bush himself chose not to infuse religion into the response. Instead of turning to an all-out religious crusade against Islam at home and abroad, Bush emphasized that the country was not at war with a religion. He chose instead to push a neoconservative militarism, ushering in a new kind of aggressively masculine but secular fanaticism. The politics shifted, and talk of a religious revival died down.

In the Obama era, some began to believe the time of the religious right was over. Gay marriage was legalized, laws were passed to protect against discrimination, and the religious right felt itself pummeled by a perceived war, waged by the government and a progressive popular culture, against Christianity.

“But every time we think the religious right is dead, it rears back even stronger,” Sutton said.

When Donald Trump was elected for his first term, some in the religious right hoped a revival of conservative Christian values was on the way. And there were certainly moments of euphoria for the movement, as when Trump moved the United States’ Israeli embassy to Jerusalem, which some evangelicals believed was necessary to set the conditions for Jesus’ return.

But the first Trump election was marked by a movement in turmoil, roiled with division from an old guard in leadership that saw white evangelicals as betraying their own values in supporting a crass and religiously illiterate philanderer. That doubting element was purged systematically over the first Trump administration, as evangelical institutions moved further to the right and individual evangelicals started listening to political pundits rather than these now-“woke” pastors and theologians. And once it was, the Christian right regrouped and presented itself as a single movement. When Trump was elected the second time, the Christian right was ready to assert its power.

By the time Kirk was shot, many Americans were already keyed to see signs of their long-awaited revival brewing. According to Matthew Taylor, a scholar at the Institute for Islamic, Christian, and Jewish Studies in Baltimore, many MAGA Christians had begun to look for such a revival once Trump won the 2024 election, believing Donald Trump would usher in a movement that would save America. “There’s been a lot of talk of revival since the inauguration,” Taylor said. “There was a sense there’s a third Great Awakening”—referring to the series of seismic religious revivals in U.S. history—“that’s bursting upon us.”

Since then, things have only seemed more promising. The long fight against Roe had been won. Major companies that once signed gay and transgender spokespeople dumped them after Trump’s election. Christian movies are churning out box-office hits, and Christian musicians are landing on Billboard charts. Polling even shows that popular support for gay marriage is on the decline. The White House’s Religious Liberty Commission, which tends to meet at the Museum of the Bible, has focused almost exclusively on making sure Christians feel comfortable expressing their beliefs, even when those beliefs are discriminatory to LGBTQ+ Americans. The Trump administration has even expressed that Christianity is fundamental to the country’s very existence. As the White House posted on social media on Sept. 22: “Without borders, law and order, and religion, you don’t have a country.”

Even before Kirk was killed, Christian nationalists had gained a significant and growing foothold within the MAGA movement, including in the Trump administration. Russ Vought’s Project 2025, which lays out the blueprint for Trump’s second term, was an explicitly Christian nationalist document, citing as a goal replacing “civil rights” with “biblical principles.” Trump established a nearly fully Christian White House Faith Office with the orders to combat “anti-Christian bias”; its leader, the televangelist Paula White-Cain, has argued that the president was divinely selected to lead the country. And some of the most prominent members of the administration were deep in the movement: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who attends a church led by an extreme Christian nationalist and who sports Crusader tattoos, can certainly be described as a leader of the movement.

Kirk’s killing set the MAGA Christian nationalist movement up to abandon any anxieties it had about softening its message. Instead, they’re trumpeting a bold power grab.

“Leftists are enraged by the spectacle yesterday,” Matt Walsh, the conservative pundit, wrote on social media the day after the memorial. “They are calling us Christian nationalists. They say that we want to usher in a new era of Christian nationalism. They claim that we are more radicalized than we’ve ever been. And they’re 100 percent correct on all counts.”

Walsh wasn’t alone in seeing the potency of the moment. Stephen Wolfe, a self-avowed Christian nationalist, described Kirk’s killing as “Gen Z’s 9/11” on his podcast.

“This is a moment where you can communicate to your kind of normie evangelical friends that the left actually is an evil presence and that through the force of law and through the Constitution, these things can be suppressed,” he said. “And this is where you can say, ‘Look, justice, righteousness—we need to be a nation under God. We need to return to what we were at the founding and really a century and a half throughout this country, which was to be a Christian republic.’ ”

But what would such a “Christian republic” look like today? And how does the Christian right want to get there from here?

The first step, according to many of the MAGA movement’s leading figures, is a crackdown on the movement’s political opponents, particularly those opponents who’ve criticized Kirk or, especially, those who celebrated his killing. But there’s debate within the movement over what form that crackdown should take. Some, including Vice President J.D. Vance, have emphasized social campaigns, such as pressuring employers to fire people who celebrated the death—or, in some cases, who simply questioned whether Kirk was a praiseworthy figure. Others have called for the Trump administration to use state power to investigate organizations or individuals for “incendiary” speech that Kirk’s supporters say inspired his murder.

Within the Christian right, there are similar calls for retribution, to the point where some have criticized Erika Kirk for, at Kirk’s memorial, saying she forgave Kirk’s killer. Several pundits have come to her defense, largely by reassuring their audiences that God has endowed the civil authority with a right to “bear the sword.” The commentator Michael Knowles, speaking at the first Turning Point USA campus event, assured the college students there that “Christian forgiveness does not demand we allow the cruel to ravage the whole Earth,” but instead that “we love our enemies” by “punishing the guilty.”

But punishing the left is only the first step, not the endgame. The ultimate goal, in short, is to take the country back.

This may seem confusing for those who don’t operate in evangelical circles. The MAGA movement, which the religious right overwhelmingly supports, already has control of the executive and legislative branches of the federal government. The conservative Supreme Court has consistently given them more power. It’s hard to see how they could feel disempowered. What’s left to be taken?

Among white evangelicals, a genuine feeling of oppression is widespread; polling has shown that a solid majority of white evangelicals believe discrimination against Christians is an urgent social issue; polls have also found they consider it more prevalent than anti-Black racism. The reason for this is a sense of loss, a fixation on what Sutton called an “imagined vision of what the world used to be two or three generations ago,” when there were Bible readings in schools and overt expressions of Christianity surrounding them. In that regard, the Christian right is correct in its anxieties, as church attendance has been plummeting for decades.

To regain the imagined righteous America, there are concrete goals. Some in the movement have decided that after the fall of Roe v. Wade, Obergefell v. Hodges, which legalized gay marriage nationwide, is next. Some support laws that would make divorces more difficult to obtain or that would make it harder for gay parents to adopt. Overwhelmingly, this group wants vouchers to help parents send their children to religious schools, while also supporting efforts to encourage prayer and religious education in public schools. Similarly, it aims to promote civics and history teachings that emphasize the country as being founded on Christian faith and values.

But their ambitions stretch beyond government and public institutions. Charlie Kirk was a promoter of the idea of the “Seven Mountains mandate,” a concept that emerged from independent Pentecostal-style Christianity to describe ambitions of taking society over for Christ. Those mountains—most commonly family, religion, education, media, arts and entertainment, business, and government—can’t be won only through good policy. Laws can ban same-sex adoptions or incentivize having more children, but they cannot make popular culture less socially progressive. Federal agencies can threaten broadcasters who say things they don’t like, but they can’t force filmmakers to make Christian content. State legislators can make laws banning broadly defined “pornography” in order to limit books with expressions of different sexual identities, but they can’t ban people from celebrating Pride Month. To conquer the mountains of culture, media, and arts, the fighting can’t stop until there’s a more fundamental change in society—until sex is banished from TVs, secular artists no longer feel safe to push boundaries, traditional family and prefeminist gender dynamics become the model for young people, and prayer infuses all parts of day-to-day life.

These mountains are tough. But the Christian right has been fighting the culture wars for decades. And if the leading religious right activists have their way, Kirk’s killing will turbocharge those fights, with many thousands of new fighters on their side.

So are we on the cusp of a new, MAGA-inflused Christian nationalist revival?

There are reasons for skepticism. Turning a moment into long-standing change and lasting political power is difficult. Back in 2020, it seemed that the country, galvanized by the death of George Floyd and the protest movement that followed, was veering hard to the left. Five years later, that premise looks laughable—and the American body politic continues to prove itself deeply fickle.

And yet, there are reasons to believe the Christian nationalists could succeed. They have more political power than they have had in a long, long time. And unlike during the first Trump era, there aren’t significant internal voices of moderation or opposition—be it inside the movement or inside the administration. The demographic decline of churchgoing in America remains a major point of concern for the movement; for years, studies have indicated that young people have been driven from churches after feeling alienated by conservative culture-war issues. But in what may be a temporary blip or a real, substantial trend, that decline has suddenly leveled off, and there are signs that young people have higher levels of religious enthusiasm.

Regardless of whether Christian nationalists succeed, they’re going to try, and they’re going to try right now. If the religious right wants to claw back its power in society, this, their activists argue, is the ideal moment—the time for the rise of a conservative Christian coalition more lasting and powerful than the ones that have seesawed out of power in recent years. We’re all going to find out if they’re right.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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If you didn't want that outcome, you shouldn't have gone all-in on Evil.

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