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That's what happens when you outsource critical industries in the name of profit.

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We now have a full blown trade war with China. Everything is going to triple in price. Way to go Trump; moron.

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MAY 27TH: Hmmmmmmmm....

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I though Zeihan said China was going to collapse back in 2001 when he was vomiting out that gay crap for Stratfor ... George Friedman the Hungarian who said quick give all your money to Israel and says Turkey and Japan are going to team up and destroy America

anyways on the subject of China and ship building

Two Chinese aircraft carriers seen in Pacific for first time, Japan says
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/two-chinese-aircraft-carriers-seen
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We now have a full blown trade war with China. Everything is going to triple in price. Way to go Trump; moron.

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So is THG again Trump or not, I thought this thread was just parroting Zeihan nonsense

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China is collapsing. You too are like children in a car asking are we there yet? Zeihan said how and why it would, and approximately when. And it is. I think you guys don’t understand what a collapsed China would look like. As it is collapsing and when it has collapsed.

I’ve posted different people speaking on the subject so you must not have paid attention. Or, I’ll say it again, Or, you aren’t smart enough to understand any of it.

And I must admit. JT’s post is such a garbled mess it’s hard to tell what his point is. Is a part of it about China sailing two aircraft carriers into the pacific therefore they can’t be collapsing?

Without a doubt because Trump is so incompetent, they may go into Taiwan now while the getting's good. For now, I am betting they're on a mission of intimidation.

I don't have a clue as to what Gilligan is saying; typical.

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they do have interesting notes


jammned with a lot of people over years, recovered old tapes files dvd and recorded stuff for people, mixed for others maybe I should play with more world people


some China notes are 'weird' though anyways Chinese Music "Jazz Pipa"

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China put spy microchips in servers used by Amazon and Apple, report says

China secretly inserted surveillance microchips into servers used by major technology companies, including Apple Inc. and Amazon.com Inc., in an audacious military operation likely to further inflame trade tensions between the United States and its leading source of electronics components and products, Bloomberg Businessweek reported Thursday morning.

http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-china-surveillance
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China to 'welcome the Taliban back' in bid to extend Belt and Road into Afghanistan

China plans to link Afghanistan to the Belt and Road Initiative as the withdrawal of NATO forces from the country clears the way for Beijing’s return to one of the ancient Silk Road nations.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-to-welcome-the-taliban-back
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China is said to have a long term strategy but without friends it will fail. So far they've pissed off all their neighbors and many other countries around the globe. They've tipped their hand and exposed what their long term strategy is, and it isn't good for anyone. It's been amazing to see how stupidly they've used aggression against everyone, even Russia. This is not a winning strategy.

It shows a complete lack of understanding of how to use diplomacy to further their policies. In other words; they have no experience doing so. This applies to their military as well.

They have no experience waging a battle much less a war. And since each branch of their military must go through the central government to get instructions, they lack the capability of launching a multiprong attack that isn't planned out well in advance. In other words, successfully using a 3 dimensional approach to fighting.

I'm still waiting on a typhoon to wipe out their manufactured islands.

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Despite talk of the Chinese Air Force becoming more skilled, this flight didn't show it. There are several air bases in the area facing Taiwan, but apparently the PLAAF needs all of the planes taking part in the operation to take off from one location—Liangcheng Longyan Guanzhi. This suggests that Chinese Air Force commanders keep a tight hold on their pilots and that there's a ton of top-down direction for what amounts to fairly elementary flying.

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Yeah, but from what I gather he's not wrong about China's economy doing a nose dive.

If anything here and in Europe were stable I wouldn't be as concerned about that as I am right now.

It might be a long winter... or years.

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Those YT videos took so long to load I gave up on them. I hope to get back to them later, when they load faster.

But FWiW ... who cares about the Chinese economy, or their population bust?

The Chinese did a number of stupid things with their economy that won't affect us negatively when it bites them in the ass. I have no respect for their "socialism with Chinese characteristics" or whatever the fuck they call it.

They made a deal with the devil. Two devils, in fact. Three, if I think about it.
Their firsr devil was creating prosperity in return for authoritarianism. "The clever leader fills the people's bellies while emptying their minds" according to an old Chinese proverb. I think this goes back to Tienanmen, when the leadership realized that they needed to create jobs and boost living standards in order to subvert revolt. Also, they needed to redirect people's minds towards getting rich, undermining the social order.

The second devil was deciding on the easy way out (something the Chinese have done for 30 years): They thought they could develop the Japanese/ South Korean way: Start by selling cheap plastic junk to western markets and climb up the value ladder, encourge western investments. The problems with that is that it warps their economy around exporting to western markets, and doesn't develop internal markets. When the American market went bust in 2008 they realized the error of their ways and tried to integrate into the EU market instead. Also, they're trying to utilize their productive capacity in their make-work project called the Belt and Road. So now they have a boatload of depreciating foreign reserves, and production geared towards markets that don't exist.

I guess their third devil is financialism. They tried to stimulate their internal market by loosening money supply. but all that did was create a class of ultra-wealthy speculators.

How does that affecr us? We depend on them for basics like raw industrial chemicals and pharma and steel. The rest of the crap we could do without for a while. But if they're desperate for a market they might drop their prices. The only thing we have to worry about is whether they will continue to accept the dollar.

For theur sake, I hope the Chinese eventually sort out their economy.


For our sake I hope we sort out ours.

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