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Monday, March 4, 2024 11:05 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Thread formerly titled "Hey Ted, I was right again you dumb shit"


CBS News: Supreme Court says Trump can appear on 2024 ballot, overturning Colorado ruling

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-trump-ballot-eligibility-co
lorado
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The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday said states cannot bar former President Donald Trump from the ballot using a rarely invoked provision of the 14th Amendment, overturning a decision from Colorado's top court and handing the GOP presidential front-runner a victory in an unprecedented case that threatened to derail his bid to return to the White House.

...

Justices Amy Coney Barrett wrote separately to note that all nine justices agree on the outcome of the case, saying "that is the message Americans should take home." The three liberal justices, Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson, issued an opinion concurring with the judgment, but said the court went too far in dictating "novel rules" for federal enforcement of Section 3.



9-0, you stupid little bitch. So you whiny little unAmerican cunts can't even complain it was the Conservative stacked court that made this decision.

Maybe now you'll finally stop listening to all the lies the Legacy Media fills your head with everyday.

The 14th Amendment scam was never going to save you.

Get fucked.


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Monday, March 4, 2024 12:12 PM

THG


It has always been understood that one state cannot interfere with a federal election dummy. My point has always been that states are trying to hold Trump accountable for being an insurrectionist. If Trump tried to run for a state wide office in Colorado, they could definitely keep him off the ballet.

His first criminal trial is about to start so,

tick tock

T


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Monday, March 4, 2024 12:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by THG:
It has always been understood that one state cannot interfere with a federal election dummy. My point has always been that states are trying to hold Trump accountable for being an insurrectionist. If Trump tried to run for a state wide office in Colorado, they could definitely keep him off the ballet.

His first criminal trial is about to start so,

tick tock

T




Okay... So digging through your post history it is.



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Monday, March 4, 2024 12:48 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


This you?

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65372&mid=11797
33#1179733


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Originally posted by THG:
Attorney Sues Trump, Claims He is Constitutionally Ineligible for Presidency

Lawrence Caplan argues that the 14th Amendment prevents Trump from holding office again as someone who violated his oath to uphold the Constitution

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/attorney-sues-trump-claims-he-
is-constitutionally-ineligible-for-presidency/ar-AA1fMSt9?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f4320d950549416fa6c011339e706730&ei=16




T



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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by THG:

Attorney Sues Trump, Claims He is Constitutionally Ineligible for Presidency

Lawrence Caplan argues that the 14th Amendment prevents Trump from holding office again as someone who violated his oath to uphold the Constitution

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/attorney-sues-trump-claims-he-
is-constitutionally-ineligible-for-presidency/ar-AA1fMSt9?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f4320d950549416fa6c011339e706730&ei=16




T




Yeah... Good luck with that. I'm sure you got him this time bro.








Trump has been charged with 91 felonies. He's more than got. He is over.

T




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Monday, March 4, 2024 12:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Boy... I really should have included Second in this thread, or made it directed entirely at him altogether.

I've found at least 20 post so far from Second claiming that the 14th Amendment was going to disqualify Trump while looking for Ted's.



http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65372&mid=11794
51#1179451


http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65372&mid=11794
85#1179485


http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65372&mid=11795
15#1179515


http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65372&mid=11798
11#1179811



Go fuck yourself too, Second.

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Monday, March 4, 2024 1:00 PM

THG


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
This you?

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65372&mid=11797
33#1179733


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Attorney Sues Trump, Claims He is Constitutionally Ineligible for Presidency

Lawrence Caplan argues that the 14th Amendment prevents Trump from holding office again as someone who violated his oath to uphold the Constitution

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/attorney-sues-trump-claims-he-
is-constitutionally-ineligible-for-presidency/ar-AA1fMSt9?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f4320d950549416fa6c011339e706730&ei=16




T




Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by THG:

Attorney Sues Trump, Claims He is Constitutionally Ineligible for Presidency

Lawrence Caplan argues that the 14th Amendment prevents Trump from holding office again as someone who violated his oath to uphold the Constitution

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/attorney-sues-trump-claims-he-
is-constitutionally-ineligible-for-presidency/ar-AA1fMSt9?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f4320d950549416fa6c011339e706730&ei=16




T




Yeah... Good luck with that. I'm sure you got him this time bro.








Trump has been charged with 91 felonies. He's more than got. He is over.

T







You're a brainless twit. I posted a fact moron. No false claims here. And your other post with
links has nothing to do with anything I've said.

T


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Monday, March 4, 2024 1:23 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


The fact was that the idiot media reported on an idiot that was making a fruitless lawsuit.

You are constantly posting media lies such as this one.

The links in the 2nd post were all Second. I got bored of doing the work to compile all of them. There were a lot more.



But if that was actually your only post on the subject and you didn't push the issue beyond that, I owe you an apology. And since I'm not going to waste any further time sifting through either of your post history today, I'll take you on your word that you didn't and offer that apology to you now.

Sometimes it's pretty easy to get you and Second mixed up, but I really shouldn't do that since the only two things you really have in common is hating Trump and calling everybody who doesn't agree with you Nazis.

The thread title has been changed to throw it in the face that gets to eat crow today.



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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Sometimes it's pretty easy to get you and Second mixed up, but I really shouldn't do that since the only two things you really have in common is hating Trump and calling everybody who doesn't agree with you Nazis.

The thread title has been changed to throw it in the face that gets to eat crow today.

I love Trump for being the epitome of all that is wrong with his Trumptards. Other Republicans running for President don't have even one of Trump's defects (tax cheating, adultery, rape, multiple divorces, felonies, business fraud, bankruptcy, Russian ally, Kim Jong Un's friend, blowhard, mental illness, obesity, body odor, ugly, etc.) which make Trump the weakest candidate.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, March 4, 2024 2:08 PM

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Okay dude. Just pout then.



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Monday, March 4, 2024 2:27 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Okay dude. Just pout then.

I did NOT want Trump to be disqualified because his presence makes it perfectly clear that Trumptards are worthless assholes, as is Trump himself. The election will NOT be about Biden at all. The election will be about how many people think Trump is a complete asshole. America's assholes will indelibly identify themselves by voting for Trump. The Democrats on the Supreme Court wanted the same as I do. The Supreme Court made the right decision in their unanimous vote against removing former President Trump from the ballot in Colorado.

Just in case someone forgot the defects making Trump a complete asshole: tax cheating, adultery, rape, multiple divorces, felonies, business fraud, bankruptcy, Putin's ally, Kim Jong Un's friend, blowhard, mental illness, obesity, body odor, ugly, etc.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Monday, March 4, 2024 2:33 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Okay dude. Just pout then.

I did NOT want Trump to be disqualified



Your post history would indicate otherwise.



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Originally posted by second (Monday, August 21, 2023):
The Trumptards are angry that the 14th amendment bans Trump from political office. If you and Trump can't understand that amendment, and won't voluntarily comply with it, I guess there is nothing, nothing at all, that can be done about it other than hope Trump chokes to death while stuffing himself in an eating contest to become The Fattest ex-President in History.



I guess in the end it was you who didn't understand the 14th amendment, huh?



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Just in case someone forgot the defects making Trump a complete asshole: tax cheating, adultery, rape, multiple divorces, felonies, business fraud, bankruptcy, Putin's ally, Kim Jong Un's friend, blowhard, mental illness, obesity, body odor, ugly, etc.


With the exclusion of Divorces and Obesity, all of the above are lies told to you by the very same media outfits that assured you Trump would be disqualified by the 14th Amendment.




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Monday, March 4, 2024 2:37 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


All of those judges and prosecutors who engaged in this blatantly politicized persecution should be impeached and disbarred.

Make it real consequential for the assholes who are doing it.



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Monday, March 4, 2024 2:40 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Your post history would indicate otherwise.

6ix, pray to God for help understanding the obvious. Just in case someone forgot the defects making Trump a complete asshole: tax cheating, adultery, rape, multiple divorces, felonies, business fraud, bankruptcy, Putin's ally, Kim Jong Un's friend, blowhard, mental illness, obesity, body odor, ugly, etc.

These are also the reasons why I want Trump as the GOP's candidate. To make it simple for 6ix to understand, I want the GOP to lose. Trump is the candidate most likely to lose out of every candidate from the GOP. Trump is ALSO the candidate most likely to win all the votes from the worst people in America, the Trumptards.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Monday, March 4, 2024 2:42 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
All of those judges and prosecutors who engaged in this blatantly politicized persecution should be impeached and disbarred.

Make it real consequential for the assholes who are doing it.



Oh, I fully agree and I've said quite a few times that it will happen.

I also said that is why the "leadership" in California and Illinois did not follow suit, since they're already so fucking corrupt that they knew better to push this one.

It's a shame that it probably won't happen until Trump is President, but with a 9-0 Supreme Court decision there is a very real possibility we see the proper actions taken before that.

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Monday, March 4, 2024 2:43 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Your post history would indicate otherwise.

6ix, pray to God for help understanding the obvious.



I don't pray to any God.

But I do have your post history, however, and it speaks for itself.

Just be a man for once in your life, leave this thread now and take your well deserved lumps on this one, pussy.

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Monday, March 4, 2024 3:05 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
All of those judges and prosecutors who engaged in this blatantly politicized persecution should be impeached and disbarred.

Make it real consequential for the assholes who are doing it.



Oh, I fully agree and I've said quite a few times that it will happen.

I also said that is why the "leadership" in California and Illinois did not follow suit, since they're already so fucking corrupt that they knew better to push this one.

It's a shame that it probably won't happen until Trump is President, but with a 9-0 Supreme Court decision there is a very real possibility we see the proper actions taken before that.

This right here is why Signym and 6ix are worthless assholes. Read the full ruling by Colorado’s Supreme Court removing Trump from the state ballot. Dec 20, 2023 https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/read-the-full-ruling-by-colorado
s-supreme-court-removing-trump-from-state-ballot


The Federal Supreme Court, not Colorado's Supreme Court, made a political decision, ignoring what the Federal Constitution actually says. I think the Federal Supreme Court made the right political decision, the decision most likely to cause the GOP to lose the 2024 elections. (There are many other 2024 elections besides the President.) I also think the opposite decision made by Colorado's Supreme Court is the right legal decision. The right legal decision can be completely backward from the right political decision, which is the GOP loses many elections it would have won if Trump was not on the ballot.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Monday, March 4, 2024 3:40 PM

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Loser.

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Tuesday, March 5, 2024 1:15 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


New York Magazine (Opinion piece by Elie Honig): The 14th Amendment Effort to Get Trump Off the Ballot Was Dumb — and Doomed

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/the-14th-amendment-effort-to-ge
t-trump-off-the-ballot-was-dumb-and-doomed/ar-BB1jjvwo?cvid=83ee1d167a334ff5aa27adc57d0f0e25&ei=18



Of course, before I read this story I did a google history search on this guy and the 14th amendment to see if he was just saying this now that the result was in, or if he beleived this all along. It appears that he did. He's a Democrat Anti-Trumper, and he even got into an argument with Republican George Conway on this issue back in December of last year.

"That's just complete nonsense": George Conway clashes with CNN analyst on Trump ballot challenge

https://www.salon.com/2023/12/28/thats-just-complete-nonsense-george-c
onway-clashes-with-cnn-analyst-on-ballot-challenge
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In January he wrote another article for New York Magazine saying that it was going to fail...

The Supreme Court’s Silver-Bullet Solution to the 14th Amendment Problem

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2024/01/how-the-supreme-court-will-dec
ide-the-trump-ballot-problem.html



Okay... So good. We've established he's not like your regular media shill that just says whatever the hell they want to on any given day no matter how hypocritical it was to previous things they said just a week ago.


So what did he have to say?

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You’ll be forgiven if you expected a different result. After all, we’ve endured months of cocksure guarantees from leading constitutional scholars that Colorado’s application of the Fourteenth Amendment against Trump was legally “unassailable in every single respect” – this from a retired judge who assured us not to worry because “I’ve been studying this specific question in great detail for the past three years. So, you know, I consider myself — personally — an expert on the question.” Other thought leaders offered up an amen chorus, disparaging any argument that the Fourteenth Amendment might not work as “extremely weak” and “just complete nonsense.” Turns out, you can’t bludgeon the Constitution into the ground with hyperbolic, conclusory rhetoric.


Don't just blame it on the "leading Constitutional Scholars" buddy. That was the full goddamened force of the Media behind it as well. You're just the exception to the rule is all.

It's actually amazing that it looks like Ted wasn't posting constantly about the 14th Amendment and how it was going to be taking Trump down like Second was doing all the time. Maybe I've actually underestimated his intelligence. I'm genuinely interested in where he was getting his news on this topic and who was steering him right on this issue. He certainly wasn't listening to the likes of Rachel Maddow or Mika Brazinski on this particular topic.

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Prominent Democrats including Gavin Newsom, Jocelyn Benson, and Dean Phillips publicly recognized that the effort to remove Trump from the ballot through the courts under the Fourteenth Amendment was ill-conceived and would likely backfire. Other Democrats conspicuously dodged the issue, steering clear of the impending trainwreck. Even Republican Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger – the guy on the receiving end of Trump’s infamous “I just want to find 11,780 votes” phone call – opposed Trump’s disqualification.


Yeah. Absolutely. I've said probably half a dozen times now that even the most corrupt politicians in places like California and Illinois weren't going to dare try this one. They knew that they weren't going to get away with it and they weren't going to jeopardize their cushy lifestyles screwing over their citizens on a stunt like this. Let the no-name middle management idiots in Colorado go down in flames... and on the off-chance it actually worked out for them only then would they follow suit.

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Now the results are in, and Trump will reap the political windfall.


You're goddamned right.

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Trump’s on the 2024 ballot, just as he would’ve been without the Fourteenth Amendment detour. He and his supporters surely will rally around a failed effort by a bunch of Northeastern, elitist law professor-types to use the courts to deny the American voters a choice and to take out the Republican frontrunner. This is one of Trump’s unique political gifts: he inspires such visceral hatred in his opponents that he provokes them to self-destruct.


The media collective is going to whine like bitches about this for a week or two, then they're going to stop talking about it altogether and hope that everybody forgets about it by the election.

SPOILER ALERT: Their viewers, the Democrat cultists and the Pink Haired Potbelly Cancel Pig Troll Brigade on Twitter are going to forget all about it by the election. In fact, some of them a month from now would tell you that it never even happened if you asked them about it.

But the rest of us?

We will never forget.



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Tuesday, March 5, 2024 7:22 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

But the rest of us?

We will never forget.

The confrontation between Trumptards and the rest of Americans must not be delayed. For that matter, all Trump's court cases should go to trial immediately, without delays, but Trump is paying a million dollars per week to lawyers for their best delaying tactics. Trump wants to campaign forever and delay his many trials until death takes him.

Trump spent $76 million over the last two years on attorneys

Several of his most prominent lawyers have surpassed $5 million each in payments, all footed by the former president’s campaign donors, according to the FEC filings. Alina Habba, whose New Jersey-based law firm represented Trump in the sexual assault and defamation suit brought by advice columnist E. Jean Carroll, has earned the most, $6 million.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-spent-millions-legal-fees-2024-presid
ential-campaign-3384cbfc2df69d3e97ba9e47c2384312


How much are Trump's lawyers paid?
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+are+trump's+lawyers+paid

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Tuesday, March 5, 2024 7:33 AM

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The Constitution sets some limits on the people’s choices for president | March 4, 2024

Key restrictions

Section 3 of Article 1 of the Constitution is the most direct result of the debate between Morris and Mason. It says that people, including the president, who are impeached and convicted can be barred from office.

Section 1 of Article 2 of the Constitution imposes more limits. It declares that some people simply can’t be president – those not born U.S. citizens, those under age 35 and those who have lived less than 14 years of their lives in the U.S.

Eight decades later, Congress and the states agreed to add a new restriction: Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868, says those seeking to hold federal and state offices who have previously taken an oath to support the Constitution may not have attemped to subvert or overthrow the Constitution.

And in 1951, the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution was ratified, declaring that nobody who had been president for two terms could become president again.

All of these rules stand in the way of simply “letting the people decide,” as Kavanaugh suggested. Strictly speaking, those rules are not democratic. But they are intended to protect democracy itself.

https://theconversation.com/the-constitution-sets-some-limits-on-the-p
eoples-choices-for-president-but-the-supreme-court-rules-its-unconstitutional-for-state-governments-to-decide-on-trumps-qualifications-224718


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Tuesday, March 5, 2024 9:53 AM

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Eight decades later, Congress and the states agreed to add a new restriction: Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868, says those seeking to hold federal and state offices who have previously taken an oath to support the Constitution may not have attemped to subvert or overthrow the Constitution.



Well that would bar half of the Democratic party from ever running again after what they've done over the last 7 years.

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Tuesday, March 5, 2024 10:19 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The media collective is going to whine like bitches about this for a week or two, then they're going to stop talking about it altogether and hope that everybody forgets about it by the election.

SPOILER ALERT: Their viewers, the Democrat cultists and the Pink Haired Potbelly Cancel Pig Troll Brigade on Twitter are going to forget all about it by the election. In fact, some of them a month from now would tell you that it never even happened if you asked them about it.

But the rest of us?

We will never forget.




Whoopie Goldberg and the View gals along with Rachel Maddow and Morning Joe are going to bitch and moan about this one for a while, but some Lefty shills are already trying to make people forget any of this happened... just as I predicted they would.

SLATE: It’s Past Time to Quit Hoping the Courts Are Going to Stop Trump

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/it-s-past-time-to-quit-hoping-
the-courts-are-going-to-stop-trump/ar-BB1jlx9b


SPOILER ALERT: They're still doing plenty of whining. 15 paragraphs full of it before they get to the last paragraph to tell YOU to move on, as if it's not all of them that need to move on.



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Tuesday, March 5, 2024 2:37 PM

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Thread formerly titled "Hey Ted, I was right again you dumb shit"

CBS News: Supreme Court says Trump can appear on 2024 ballot, overturning Colorado ruling

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-trump-ballot-eligibility-co
lorado
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Quote:

The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday said states cannot bar former President Donald Trump from the ballot using a rarely invoked provision of the 14th Amendment, overturning a decision from Colorado's top court and handing the GOP presidential front-runner a victory in an unprecedented case that threatened to derail his bid to return to the White House.
...
Justices Amy Coney Barrett wrote separately to note that all nine justices agree on the outcome of the case, saying "that is the message Americans should take home." The three liberal justices, Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson, issued an opinion concurring with the judgment, but said the court went too far in dictating "novel rules" for federal enforcement of Section 3.

9-0, you stupid little bitch. So you whiny little unAmerican cunts can't even complain it was the Conservative stacked court that made this decision.

Maybe now you'll finally stop listening to all the lies the Legacy Media fills your head with everyday.

The 14th Amendment scam was never going to save you.

This topic has helped the Radical Libtard Propaganda Network (aka MSM) distance itself from NEWS outlets.
This could be used as a bell weather subject to ascertain whether a source is A. News, or B. Radical Libtard Propaganda Network. Some other topics might be also suitable for this purpose, but this one seems to hit the nail on the head.
Reasonable folk already knew how these Unconstitutional Rules and Rulings would turn out, albeit not that the 3 Libtards would resort to upholding the Constitution, but Libtard heads are still exploding.

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Tuesday, March 5, 2024 3:08 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Reasonable folk already knew how this would turn out, albeit not that the 3 Libtards would resort to upholding the Constitution, but Libtard heads are still exploding.

Justices feared assassination if they disqualified Trump. Why risk your life for nothing? Trump will lose in 2024 but he'll be back in 2028, which is perfectly fine with me, a Democrat. When he loses in 2028, the GOP will self-destruct.

The Court Made Its Colorado Decision Out of Fear

This case wasn’t decided on its merits, and the result is an utterly flimsy legal argument.

By George T. Conway III | March 5, 2024, 1:16 PM ET

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/03/supreme-court-colora
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You can’t always get what you want. What Mick Jagger said about life applies with equal, perhaps even greater, force to litigation. Like life, litigation has its ups and downs. It reflects human fears and frailties—because judges, lawyers, and litigants are human. Law is never perfect, and never will be.

And so it is with the United States Supreme Court’s decision yesterday in Trump v. Anderson, which unanimously reversed the Supreme Court of Colorado’s decision barring Donald Trump from the state’s presidential-primary ballot.

Trump’s brazen effort to end constitutional democracy in America should have been the textbook example of the sort of behavior that would lead to someone being barred from holding public office under the Fourteenth Amendment. But it was not to be, and never was to be.

I talked with a lot of people about the Colorado case over the past three months, and I didn’t come across a single person who appeared willing to wager that the Supreme Court would uphold the Colorado decision; even the most fervent advocates for Trump’s disqualification, the ones who believed (as I was ultimately convinced) that the Colorado decision was unimpeachably correct, did not imagine that the Court was likely to agree. My guess is that none of these people thought they had any votes after the argument three weeks ago.

This private pessimism didn’t arise from legal reasoning. It came from an understanding that it was too much to expect this Court, at this time, in this political context, to apply the Constitution the way the Court normally should: by dispassionately looking at the constitutional text, and the historical context, and letting the chips fall where they may. It may be noble-minded for someone like me, sitting in the cheap seats, to incant my favorite Latin legal maxim, Fiat justitia ruat caelum—“Let justice be done though the heavens may fall.” But I don’t hold a lifetime appointment to decide how justice is to be done. And however much I’d like to think that judges really believe—as Justice Samuel Alito claimed in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization—that they “cannot allow [their] decisions to be affected by any extraneous influences such as concern about the public’s reaction to [their] work,” the fact is that judges are human. Their decisions are affected at times by their perception of what the public reaction may be.

Fewer better examples of that will ever arise than the Court’s decision yesterday. I confess that, going in, I gave the Court a lot more credit than the Court eventually showed itself to be due. I wrote that “the people who think the Court is going to reverse no matter what … may well be right.” I was understating things there, but I was convinced that the justices, in reversing, would come up with a stronger opinion than they ultimately did.

They didn’t, because, frankly, there wasn’t anything stronger. And the Supreme Court’s unsigned per curiam opinion—I can’t blame any of the justices for not wanting to put their name on it—makes that painfully, embarrassingly clear. To be sure, the Court deserves some credit. For instance, and with good reason, it didn’t even mention the Trump lawyers’ principal argument, the one that so many people assumed had some purchase: the ridiculous contention that, somehow, the president isn’t an “officer of the United States,” even though the Constitution refers to the presidency as an “office.”

That’s about as much credit as the Court deserves. What the Court did—and I’m referring to all nine justices here, including the ones who wrote concurrences—was make up a holding utterly unmoored from the text or history of the provision it was interpreting, Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment. That bottom-line holding: “States have no power to enforce Section 3 with respect to federal offices, especially the Presidency.” The justices who wrote separate concurrences—the Court’s four women—seemed to agree with at least this statement of the holding, as far as the presidency is concerned.

But here’s the problem. The Fourteenth Amendment does not say that. It could have—but it doesn’t. It says, in Section 5, “Congress shall have power, to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article,” meaning all of the provisions of the Fourteenth Amendment. But just because Congress has the power to enact legislation to enforce each of the Fourteenth Amendment’s various provisions—which include, most notably, the guarantee of “the equal protection of the laws” in Section 1—doesn’t mean that state officials, or federal or state judiciaries, are disempowered to apply the Fourteenth Amendment. To the contrary, because the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, they have a duty to do that. State officials and state courts have an obligation not to “deny to any person within [the state’s] jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws,” regardless of what Congress does or doesn’t do.

So now Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment is the only provision of the Fourteenth Amendment that may require some congressional action to be enforced, at least in some circumstances. The justices effectively carved out Section 3, without any textual or clear historical basis for doing so.

The Court didn’t even reach that result in a way that makes any sense. Section 3 can be enforced by the states, the Court held, but not for federal offices. Where does the Fourteenth Amendment say that? Where does it say, or even suggest, that federal officeholders are different from state officeholders as far as disqualification is concerned? It doesn’t. The best the Court does is quote an earlier opinion, as well as Justice Joseph Story’s Commentaries, to point out, “Because federal officers owe their existence and functions to the united voice of the whole, not a portion of the people, powers over their election and qualifications must be specifically delegated to, rather than reserved by the States.”

That’s all well and good, but that statement doesn’t bear anything approaching the weight the Court places on it. Because it’s the federal Constitution, not any invention of the states, that says that insurrectionists who violate their oath to support the Constitution can’t hold any federal or state office. And the federal Constitution is binding on the states—always. Which is why the Court recognized that the states could apply—must apply, presumably, because, again, the Constitution is the supreme law of the land—Section 3 to oath-defying insurrectionists who seek state office. But if Section 3 must be applied by the states when they conduct state elections, how is it that they must not do so when the office is federal?

I guess I should stop with the logic, because there really isn’t a lot of it in the Court’s opinion. What little logic that does appear is in the form of a policy argument. The Court correctly points out that, when it comes to the presidency, if states were allowed to enforce Section 3 in federal races, a “patchwork” could result, particularly as to presidential candidates. You could have different states applying different standards under Section 3 in different proceedings with different procedures and on differing records, and they could reach differing results as to a particular candidate for the presidency. This, the Court felt, was bad.

Practically speaking, that’s a fair point. As the University of Michigan law professor Richard Primus put it, “The basic substance of the [Court’s] decision—uniform federal process for disqualification in a POTUS election—is reasonable as a matter of constitutional design.” But if I may play conservative scold to this supposedly conservative Court, it’s not for the Supreme Court of the United States to design the Constitution; its job is to apply the one that others designed.

The desire for uniform presidential elections is a great argument for revising the Fourteenth Amendment, but it should have been made to the 39th Congress, whose members did the drafting in 1866. They could have said that states were not free to apply Section 3 on their own, in some or all cases, or only with procedures that Congress specifies. But they didn’t say that. Instead they said that Congress could remove any insurrectionist’s “disability” by a two-thirds majority and, in doing that, made clear that insurrectionists could be barred by other entities—like the states—without action by Congress. What the Court did yesterday, as Primus wrote, simply “doesn’t follow from any theory” of constitutional interpretation “that this Court is willing to endorse.” And despite the Court’s decision on Trump, we will still have a dreaded “patchwork”—because the Constitution has always vested states with the task of running even federal elections. For example, the presidential candidates Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Cornel West will likely be on some state ballots but not others, precisely because, as the Constitution contemplates and allows, states have differing ballot-access rules.

I could go on picking apart the weaknesses and inconsistencies in the Court’s opinion, and legions of law professors will do so for ages to come, but the Court’s lack of convincing reasoning is, frankly, beside the point. The Court’s decision wasn’t about law. It was about fear.

That fear is most apparent in the concurring opinions, which otherwise make little sense. Justice Amy Coney Barrett’s concurrence gave that fear open expression. It’s hard to know what to make of her two-paragraph opinion. In the first sentence, she says she joined Part II-B—the guts, if you will—of the Court’s opinion; then, in the next four sentences, she rejects a good portion of that section. She writes that she agrees only that “states lack the power to enforce Section 3 against Presidential candidates”—not candidates for federal office generally, as the majority held—and that the Court shouldn’t “address whether federal legislation is the exclusive vehicle through which Section 3 can be enforced.” But that’s mostly what Part II-B is all about.

As for the concurrence of Justice Sonia Sotomayor, joined by Justices Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson, it does make an important point: that the Court’s opinion went further than it really had to. It’s normally best for judges to make their rulings as narrow as possible, to avoid deciding cases that haven’t yet come before them. And here, Justice Sotomayor writes, all the Court needed to decide was that the states may not apply Section 3 to presidential candidates; it could have avoided the question of whether federal legislation was required for states to do so. But in making her point that “nothing in Section 3’s text supports the majority’s view of how federal disqualification efforts must operate,” she undercuts her own conclusion that the states are barred from holding that an insurrectionist presidential candidate is disqualified. She points out, correctly, that nothing in the Fourteenth Amendment requires federal legislation, and that the provision by which Congress could remove a disqualification undercuts the argument that legislation is required. But these aren’t just arguments against what the majority did; they are solid arguments in favor of upholding Trump’s disqualification. Sotomayor’s concurrence undermines her own vote.

But again, this case wasn’t about legal reasoning; it was about fear. Fear from all the justices, conservatives and liberals, about the impact on the Court of removing Trump from the ballot. And the second paragraph of Justice Barrett’s opinion bleeds fear onto the page. “This is not the time to amplify disagreement with stridency,” she writes. Was that directed at any of her colleagues? Justice Sotomayor’s opinion is hardly strident at all, as far as Supreme Court separate opinions go, even if it makes little more sense than the majority’s. “The Court has settled a politically charged issue in the volatile season of a Presidential election,” Barrett continues. “Particularly in this circumstance, writings on the Court should turn the national temperature down, not up. For present purposes, our differences are far less important than our unanimity: All nine justices agree on the outcome of this case. That is the message Americans should take home.”

Each of these sentences is true. But why say this? Why not let the Court’s unanimity of judgment and reasoning speak for itself, including that of Sotomayor’s concurrence? Because Justice Barrett—and, I suspect, all the justices—were terrified by the case and what it actually required them to do: affirm Trump’s disqualification.

That may sound depressing, but I see reason to take heart. To be sure, it’s a shame, because this was one circumstance where it would have been nice for the Supreme Court justices to show the courage that some of their colleagues in the lower courts have shown when faced with Trump—judges like Lewis Kaplan, in the Carroll case; Tanya Chutkan, in the federal January 6 case; Justice Arthur Engoron in Trump’s New York civil fraud case; and Justice Juan Merchan, in the upcoming New York criminal case stemming from Trump allegedly cooking his books to pay off an adult-film star. Ultimately, though, litigation will not save us from Trump, and no one should believe that it will.

But litigation will have done its part—even Trump v. Anderson, with its dearth of reasoning and not-quite-satisfactory result. Because there was one very important thing the Court didn’t do yesterday. It didn’t cast one word of doubt, and expressed not a hint of a disagreement with, the amply supported factual conclusion reached by the Colorado courts: Donald Trump engaged in an insurrection. Just as Trump today stands as an adjudicated sexual abuser, so too he remains an adjudicated insurrectionist. It is up to us, as voters, to make use of those findings come November.

Put another way: You can’t always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you get what you need.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, March 5, 2024 3:15 PM

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lol

I think Second's brain is finally imploding.



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Tuesday, March 5, 2024 3:37 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
lol

I think Second's brain is finally imploding.

I talked with a lot of people about the Colorado case over the past three months, and I didn’t come across a single person who appeared willing to wager that the Supreme Court would uphold the Colorado decision; even the most fervent advocates for Trump’s disqualification, the ones who believed (as I was ultimately convinced) that the Colorado decision was unimpeachably correct, did not imagine that the Court was likely to agree. My guess is that none of these people thought they had any votes after the argument three weeks ago.

This private pessimism didn’t arise from legal reasoning. It came from an understanding that it was too much to expect this Court, at this time, in this political context, to apply the Constitution the way the Court normally should: by dispassionately looking at the constitutional text, and the historical context, and letting the chips fall where they may. It may be noble-minded for someone like me, sitting in the cheap seats, to incant my favorite Latin legal maxim, Fiat justitia ruat caelum—“Let justice be done though the heavens may fall.” But I don’t hold a lifetime appointment to decide how justice is to be done. And however much I’d like to think that judges really believe—as Justice Samuel Alito claimed in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization—that they “cannot allow [their] decisions to be affected by any extraneous influences such as concern about the public’s reaction to [their] work,” the fact is that judges are human. Their decisions are affected at times by their perception of what the public reaction may be. (Justices feared assassination if they disqualified Trump. Why risk your life for nothing?)

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, March 5, 2024 3:43 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Cry, cry, cry, bitch.

What have I ALWAYS told you?

Trump will be fine.

He will also be your next President.




Don't go and kill yourself or do anything stupid.

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Tuesday, March 5, 2024 5:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Cry, cry, cry, bitch.

What have I ALWAYS told you?

Trump will be fine.

He will also be your next President.




Don't go and kill yourself or do anything stupid.

If Trump wins, I can start cheating on my taxes and pay as little as Trump pays in taxes. The Federal debt will then increase faster than the GDP because of other significant taxpayers taking cues from Trump's tax returns, which he will, once again, be keeping a secret from the public, as he did last time.

From the following graph, notice that the Federal Debt leaped upward under Trump while he was attempting to buy his victory in the 2020 election by increasing spending while not collecting taxes.

Federal Debt: Total Public Debt in Red
Gross Domestic Product in Blue
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1hTTC


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Tuesday, March 5, 2024 5:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Cry, cry, cry, bitch.

What have I ALWAYS told you?

Trump will be fine.

He will also be your next President.




Don't go and kill yourself or do anything stupid.

If Trump wins, I can start cheating on my taxes and pay as little as Trump pays in taxes.



Good to know that the only thing keeping you from cheating is the law.

But we already know that because you're a pirate, a thief and a plagiarist.



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Tuesday, March 5, 2024 6:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Cry, cry, cry, bitch.

What have I ALWAYS told you?

Trump will be fine.

He will also be your next President.




Don't go and kill yourself or do anything stupid.

If Trump wins, I can start cheating on my taxes and pay as little as Trump pays in taxes.



Good to know that the only thing keeping you from cheating is the law.

But we already know that because you're a pirate, a thief and a plagiarist.

The only thing holding anybody in line is themselves. We hold ourselves to goals or, as in the case of you and EVERY OTHER TRUMPTARD I HAVE KNOWN, nobody is looking after their best interests or seeing that they achieve any goals at all. It is probably impossible for a Trumptard to understand, which is why they need Trump, so that somebody, certainly not themselves, is looking after them.

For a real-life example, Trump doesn't pay taxes, and nobody can make him. The closest approximation to making Trump do something is by confiscating his property against his loud protests and selling it for back taxes. That has not happened, yet, because of his lawyers. The same thing happened with Trump's mentor, Roy Cohn. Roy didn't pay taxes even to the day he died. Only then did the IRS get paid. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn#Reputation

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Tuesday, March 5, 2024 6:29 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You need to stop dude.

You've got serious mental problems.

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Tuesday, March 5, 2024 7:06 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You need to stop dude.

You've got serious mental problems.

You are the guy who flunked out of life, wasted years drinking, and now is certain that a rapist, Donald Trump, will be President. But then all Trumptards I know are certain their failures aren't their fault. A Trumptard's business goes bankrupt? It is the customers' fault, not the business owner's. A Trumptard's marriage ends acrimoniously? It's the wife's fault, not the husband's adultery. A Trumptard's brokerage account loses most of its value? It's the stockmarket's fault, not the options trading by a dopey fool miscalculating risks. A Trumptard bets that Trump wins but he loses? That cannot be Trump's fault or the Trumptard's because he fraudulently voted for Trump several times.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, March 5, 2024 8:26 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
lol

I think Second's brain is finally imploding.


Maybe I'm cpnfused.

Does Hickey Naily's affair - cheating on her husband while he was serving overseas - mean that Arthur is unaware of her candidacy? Or is that not adultery?

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