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As Palestinians pushes for statehood, Israel finds itself more isolated
Monday, January 22, 2024 4:20 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Friday, January 26, 2024 12:31 PM
Friday, January 26, 2024 12:42 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Saturday, January 27, 2024 8:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Fuck the UN.
Sunday, January 28, 2024 1:47 PM
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Monday, February 5, 2024 5:16 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Sunday, February 11, 2024 4:31 PM
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Tuesday, February 20, 2024 10:48 PM
Tuesday, February 20, 2024 11:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: The death toll in Gaza The cumulative death toll as of today is just over 29,000, about 1.3% of the total population of Gaza. Dead and injured come to just under 100,000, or 4.3% of the total population.
Monday, February 26, 2024 10:04 AM
Monday, February 26, 2024 10:18 AM
Tuesday, February 27, 2024 2:14 AM
Quote: Aaron Burned Himself To Make Us Look At Gaza Like many readers here I feel helpless about the ongoing genocide against Palestinians committed by U.S. supported Zionist settlers in the West Bank and Gaza. I can not even find the right words to express myself about it. Others are more consequential. And powerful. Disgust about the cruelty imposed on Palestinians can induce the utmost will to change things. U.S. Air Force Member Sets Self on Fire Outside Israel’s Embassy in D.C. to Protest War in Gaza - Time, Feb 25 2024 An active-duty member of the U.S. Air Force set himself on fire outside the Israeli embassy in Washington, D.C., on Sunday, in apparent protest of the ongoing Israel-Hamas war, which he described as a “genocide.” ... The burn victim, who identified himself in video of the incident as 25-year-old Aaron Bushnell, reportedly succumbed to his injuries on Sunday night, according to independent journalist Talia Jane, who posted on social media that she is in contact with Bushnell’s family and friends. Bushnell reportedly sent a message to media outlets before his planned self-immolation. “??Today, I am planning to engage in an extreme act of protest against the genocide of the Palestinian people,” he warned. ... On Facebook Sunday morning, he also wrote: “Many of us like to ask ourselves, ‘What would I do if I was alive during slavery? Or the Jim Crow South? Or apartheid? What would I do if my country was committing genocide?’ The answer is, you’re doing it. Right now.” The post included a link to a live-stream of his protest on the web-broadcasting platform Twitch, which has since removed the video for violations of its community guidelines and terms of service. “I will no longer be complicit in genocide. I’m about to engage in an extreme act of protest,” the airman repeated, in footage reviewed by TIME, as he walked toward the driveway of the Israeli embassy. “But compared to what people have been experiencing in Palestine at the hands of their colonizers, it’s not extreme at all. This is what our ruling class has decided will be normal.” After Bushnell doused himself with liquid and reached for his lighter, unidentified law enforcement or security officers could be heard asking off-screen, “Can I help you?” After setting himself aflame, he repeatedly shouted “Free Palestine.” A security man decided to 'help' by pointing his gun on the dying man. A censored video of the incident is here. Rest in peace, Aaron Bushnell. Rest. In. Peace.
Tuesday, February 27, 2024 2:18 AM
Quote: That's what happens when hostile invaders come in and murder unarmed civilians, and then kidnap and rape the women and children.
Saturday, March 2, 2024 8:03 AM
Sunday, March 3, 2024 2:51 AM
Quote: More than 100 killed as Israeli troops accused of opening fire on Gazans crowded around aid convoy The incident came as the death toll Gaza surpassed 30,000 and amid surging fears of starvation in the north of the territory.
Quote: Exclusive: Israeli forces fired on food convoy in Gaza, UN documents and satellite analysis reveals
Tuesday, March 5, 2024 8:58 PM
JAYNEZTOWN
Thursday, March 7, 2024 2:19 PM
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Sunday, April 14, 2024 1:10 AM
Sunday, April 14, 2024 2:22 AM
Sunday, April 14, 2024 4:38 AM
Quote: According to the book of Exodus, Amalek is the nation that attacked the weakest among the Israelites as they fled from Egypt. This transgression was not to go unpunished. The Torah has a harsh prescription for Amalek: annihilation.
Quote: “It shall be that when Hashem, your God, gives you rest from all your enemies all around, in the Land that Hashem, your God, gives you as an inheritance to possess it, you shall blot out the memory of Amalek from under the heaven. Do not forget it!” (Deuteronomy 25: 19; also see Exodus 17:14 and Numbers 24:20) Blotting out the memory of Amalek was no mere psychological activity. The Israelites were expected to kill every Amalekite–man, woman, and child. But was this just a theoretical imperative or was it meant to be carried out? The book of Samuel implies that it required actual fulfillment: “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox, and sheep, camel and ass,” (Samuel I, 15:3). King Saul struck down Amalek as he was commanded but he then took mercy upon King Agag and upon some of the Amalekite animals. God and the prophet Samuel harshly criticized Saul for not fulfilling God’s word.
Sunday, April 14, 2024 5:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You don't understand, SIX. Iran isn't having a religious war, ISRAEL IS. Israel is doing what it's doing because many Jews believe that are GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE, and Zionists believe that the land of Palestine was GIVEN TO THEM BY GOD. They are allowed (by their god) to do ANYTHING. Even commmit genocide. It's in their Torah
Quote:Quote: According to the book of Exodus, Amalek is the nation that attacked the weakest among the Israelites as they fled from Egypt. This transgression was not to go unpunished. The Torah has a harsh prescription for Amalek: annihilation. We would call it genocide.
Quote:Quote: “It shall be that when Hashem, your God, gives you rest from all your enemies all around, in the Land that Hashem, your God, gives you as an inheritance to possess it, you shall blot out the memory of Amalek from under the heaven. Do not forget it!” (Deuteronomy 25: 19; also see Exodus 17:14 and Numbers 24:20) Blotting out the memory of Amalek was no mere psychological activity. The Israelites were expected to kill every Amalekite–man, woman, and child. But was this just a theoretical imperative or was it meant to be carried out? The book of Samuel implies that it required actual fulfillment: “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox, and sheep, camel and ass,” (Samuel I, 15:3). King Saul struck down Amalek as he was commanded but he then took mercy upon King Agag and upon some of the Amalekite animals. God and the prophet Samuel harshly criticized Saul for not fulfilling God’s word. https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/genocide-in-the-torah/ The Torah and the Q'uran each have passages in them that are pretty horrific, and some followers take those passages way too seriously. Zionists and Wahhabists deserve each other bc they're both religious nuts. But other mideast nations and cultures aren't that nutty.
Sunday, April 14, 2024 5:59 AM
Sunday, April 14, 2024 4:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Biden Tells Bibi: US Will Not Support A Counterattack Against Iran After Hundreds Of Drones, Missiles Sent https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-pressuring-china-turkey-saudi-arabia-intervene-iran-halt-attack-israel Common sense from the Biden* WH????
Sunday, April 14, 2024 11:08 PM
Monday, April 15, 2024 1:44 PM
Quote:Israel Says Readying 'Imminent' Attack On Iran As Airlines Cancel Flights To Region Update(1329ET): It appears things are moving fast, via Israel's Channel 12 broadcaster, following the earlier conclusion of Israel's War Cabinet meeting: THE ISRAELI AIR FORCE HAS COMPLETED ITS PREPARATION FOR AN IMMINENT ATTACK AGAINST IRAN The Times of Israel top headline has switched to: War cabinet decides to hit Iran back hard, hopes it won’t spark regional war A host of airlines have canceled flights to the region, including the following: Germany’s Lufthansa has suspended its regular flights to and from Tel Aviv, Erbil, and Amman, up to and including Monday. Flights to Beirut and Tehran will remain suspended until at least Thursday. KLM cancelled all flights to and from Tel Aviv until Tuesday, a spokesperson for the Dutch arm of Air France says. Britain’s easyJet on Sunday paused operations to and from Tel Aviv. The carrier said in an emailed statement to Reuters that it will temporarily pause operations to and from Tel Aviv until April 21. Wizz Air says it had cancelled most of its flights to and from Tel Aviv, Saturday through Monday. Finnair has suspended operations in Iranian airspace until further notice, which may cause longer flight times on flights from Doha. A spokesperson said the Finnish carrier will reroute over Egypt, resulting in delays of a “few minutes.” * * * Update(1225ET): Israel is looking to "send a message" against Iran, but short of causing outright war and mass casualties, a top level official has told The Washington Post. During Monday's Israel War Cabinet meeting, Prime Minister Netanyahu is reported to have requested defense leaders to draw up a list of targets. According to Washington Post's reporting: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has asked the Israel Defense Forces to provide target options, according to an official familiar with high-level discussions, who said Israel is looking at options that would “send a message” but not cause casualties. Those options include a potential strike on a facility in Tehran or a cyberattack, according to the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the talks. “Everybody agrees that Israel must respond,” the official said. “How to respond, when to respond, is the question.” Israeli officials are now signaling to their US counterparts that they would like the White House's backing and coordination for retaliation, however, so far President Biden has urged restraint. This weekend the president clearly said the US will not back an Israeli military attack on Iran, on fears it would spark a bigger war. Biden has issued what appears an ambiguous statement, and Israel's military says it is preparing: BIDEN: US COMMITTED TO ISRAEL'S SECURITY AND FOR CEASE-FIRE * * * Update(1145ET): Israel's war cabinet has issued a statement, reported in the country's Channel 12 broadcaster, according to breaking reports: Israel wants to embark on action against Iran coordinated with US, channel 12 says — Reuters Channel 12 has cited top Israeli ministers to say that the military's objective will be to "hurt Iran without causing all-out war," according to news wires. But the Biden administration has already said it will not back a retaliatory attack on Iran, amid fears of the situation spiraling into all-out regional war. As for Tehran, it is warning that in the face of any Israeli assault it will hit back harder. According to BBC Iran correspondent Kasra Naji: Iran's IRGC commander: in new equation every time Israel attacks our interests, assets, personalities or citizens, we will hit back from our soil. Israel's Def Minister: we won't accept an equation in which Iran responds with a direct attack every time we strike targets in Syria. Recall that before the Saturday night Iranian attack, Israel's leadership vowed that a major response would happen if the Islamic Republic directly attacks Israel from its soil. Indeed that's precisely what Iran did - it launched hundreds of drones and ballistic missiles directly from its territory. Meanwhile in Iran: Iran has lifted suspensions on domestic and international flights from its capital, Tehran, the state-run IRNA news agency reported, possibly signaling a return to stabilization for now. It comes as Israel weighs its response to the strikes and world leaders call for restraint. Global airlines faced ongoing disruptions to flights after Iran’s missile and drone attacks on Israel narrowed options for planes navigating between Europe and Asia.
Sunday, April 21, 2024 12:27 AM
Quote: Israel Fostered The Rise Of Hamas To Preclude A Two-State Solution Saturday, Apr 20, 2024 - 08:40 PM Those sentiments are quite different from ones Netanyahu privately shared in 2019. “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” Netanyahu told Likud Party legislators, according to Haaretz, Israel's longest-running newspaper. Doing so would help prevent the West Bank-based Palestinian Authority (PA) from ruling Gaza and giving Palestinians a relatively moderate, unified voice at the negotiating table. “This is part of our strategy -- to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.” ... As a former senior CIA official told UPI’s Richard Sale in 2001, Israel’s initial boosting of Hamas “was a direct attempt to divide and dilute support for a strong, secular PLO by using a competing religious alternative." ... Israel prioritized undermining the PLO-leading Fatah.
Sunday, May 12, 2024 2:05 PM
Quote:UN Agency Closes Jerusalem HQ After Israeli Settler Arson Attacks Sunday, May 12, 2024 - 04:30 AM The attacks by settler mobs come months into a smear campaign launched by Tel Aviv to dismantle the primary humanitarian agency for Palestinian refugees The UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) announced on Thursday that it is shutting down its headquarters in east Jerusalem after Israeli settlers carried out an arson attack on its building. This was the second settler attack on the UNRWA building in less than a week, according to the agency’s general commissioner, Phillipe Lazzarini. “Our director, with the help of other staff, had to put out the fire themselves as it took the Israeli fire extinguishers and police a while before they turned up. This is an outrageous development. Once again, the lives of UN staff were at serious risk. In light of this second appalling incident in less than a week, I have taken the decision to close down our compound until proper security is restored,” Lazzarini said. Video footage on social media showed the UNRWA building in flames as settlers were heard cheering in the background. There were no injuries, but the fires caused significant damage to property, according to WAFA news agency.
Monday, May 13, 2024 7:35 PM
Monday, May 13, 2024 8:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Israel changed Joe Biden’s mind all by itself Biden — like lots of people — has long been ardently pro-Israel and was appalled by the October 7 Hamas attacks. That's the attitude he thinks is right, and what changed it wasn't a few messy protests on college campuses. That is, after all, pretty routine stuff.
Monday, May 13, 2024 9:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by second: Israel changed Joe Biden’s mind all by itself Biden — like lots of people — has long been ardently pro-Israel and was appalled by the October 7 Hamas attacks. That's the attitude he thinks is right, and what changed it wasn't a few messy protests on college campuses. That is, after all, pretty routine stuff. Keep trying to normalize that behavior and see where it gets you. SPOILER ALERT: 2020 was a LONG time ago and everything else outside of college campuses has changed. Drastically.
Thursday, May 23, 2024 4:51 AM
Thursday, May 23, 2024 5:05 AM
Thursday, May 23, 2024 6:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The ICC has issued an arrest warrant for Israeli PM Netanyahu and Defense Minister, qnd whoever the fuck it is who's the head of Hamas. Israeli officials for crimes against humanity, IIRC. Now Netanyahu can't travel to any nation that signed the Rome Statute and recognizes ICC jurisdiction without fear of being arrested. So he's safe in the USA. And, ironically, Russia. Now our Congress is getting all huffy bc the ICC dares to indict one of our "friends"? When the west cheered on Putin's arrest warrant, blowing past the ICC's jurisdiction, they (we) didn't realize the Pandora's box we were opening. Our diplomats and politicians ... they're clowns. ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time." Or, any verification or thought.
Monday, May 27, 2024 5:55 AM
Monday, May 27, 2024 1:24 PM
Quote: Global Outrage After Deadly Israeli Strike On Refugee Tent Camp In Rafah Monday, May 27, 2024 - 10:00 AM There have been widespread reports of a civilian massacre following a Sunday Israeli air strike on a camp for displaced Palestinians in the besieged southern city of Rafah, which the Gaza Health Ministry says killed 45 people, including women and children. Israel says it is investigating the strike, amid widespread international condemnation and as horrific videos of the attack aftermath circulate widely, with Israel’s top military prosecutor calling the attack "very grave". Major-General Yifat Tomer Yerushalmi said in a briefing the Israeli army "regrets any harm to non-combatants during the war" and that "The details of the incident are still under an investigation, which we are committed to conducting to the fullest extent." Fire rages after the airstrike, via Al Jazeera The targeted area of the Tal al-Sultan neighborhood had been a recognized UN-run "safe zone" which lies about 2km to the northwest of the Rafah city center. Incredibly graphic and disturbing social media videos show people burning in tents and rescuers carrying mangled and burned children's bodies. According to an eyewitness description: Mohammad al-Mughayyir, a senior official at the civil defense agency, told AFP that at least 40 Palestinians were killed and at least 65 wounded in the Israeli strikes. "We saw charred bodies and dismembered limbs… We also saw cases of amputations, wounded children, women and the elderly," Mughayyir said. Eyewitnesses told Reuters that tents were "melting" after the bombardment, burning people alive. The Israeli strikes followed a rare Hamas rocket launch on Tel Aviv earlier the same day, which included at least eight projectiles, most of which were intercepted. An international humanitarian organization, ActionAid, said it was "outraged and heartbroken" that the strike hit a tent area to a UNRWQ warehouses stocking "vital aid." "The images coming from our partners of burned bodies are a scar on the face of humanity and the global community, which so far has failed to protect the people of Gaza. One of our own ActionAid colleagues narrowly escaped this atrocity, having left the shelter just a day before the attack," ActionAid said. A Hamas statement called it a "massacre" and said the group also holds the United States responsible as it supplies Israel's military with weaponry. The Palestinian Authority's (PA) Mahmoud Abbas charged Israel with deliberately targeting civilians. "The perpetration of this heinous massacre by the Israeli occupation forces is a challenge to all international legitimacy resolutions." He alleged the IDF was "deliberately targeting" refugee tents. The high casualty event has elicited statements of condemnation from leaders across the Middle East and Europe, as well as from some Democratic Congressional members in the US. This has included EU foreign policy chief Joseph Borrell who demanded that the ICJ call for immediate ceasefire must be adhered to. German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock's words were especially strong. "No Israeli hostage will be freed if more people now have to shelter in tents," Baerbock said. "International humanitarian law applies for all, also for Israel's conduct of the war," she added. Against this avalanche of criticism, also at a moment of investigations and legal actions by both the International Criminal Court (ICC) and UN's International Court of Justice (ICJ) - both accusing the Israeli side of genocide - the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) have pushed back, saying Hamas militants were in the area that was hit Sunday. "The strike was carried out against legitimate targets under international law, through the use of precise munitions and on the basis of precise intelligence that indicated Hamas’s use of the area," the IDF said. "The IDF [Israeli army] is aware of reports indicating that, as a result of the strike and fire that was ignited, several civilians in the area were harmed. The incident is under review."
Thursday, June 6, 2024 7:57 AM
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Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Fuck the liars at the NYT. We all know the real reason that you hate Hollywood is because you hate Jews. -------------------------------------------------- Trump will be fine. He will also be your next President.
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