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Moscow Burns / Coup In Progress
Friday, June 23, 2023 7:55 PM
THG
Friday, June 23, 2023 8:05 PM
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JAYNEZTOWN
Friday, June 23, 2023 9:55 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Friday, June 23, 2023 11:16 PM
Quote: The owner of the Wagner private military group has accused Russia of bombing his camps in Ukraine — and is facing arrest on mutiny charges after urging an armed rebellion to oust the country’s defense minister in retaliation. Yevgeny Prigozhin posted a series of video and audio recordings online in which he claimed Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu launched a rocket strike against his camp, killing “a huge number” of soldiers who were fighting on Russia’s behalf in its war against Ukraine. Earlier on Friday, he accused Shoigu of leading Russia into war under false pretenses, the Wall Street Journal reported, as the months-long war of words between the two edges on open conflict. Prigozhin said his mercenaries would now punish Shoigu in an armed rebellion and urged the army not to offer resistance. “The evil that the military leadership of the country brings forward must be stopped. They have forgotten the word ‘justice,’ and we will return it,” Prigozhin said in an audio recording posted on Wagner’s social media Friday, according to the Journal. “Anyone attempting resistance will be considered a threat and immediately destroyed. This includes all the checkpoints on our path and any aircraft above our heads.” The Ministry of Defense in Moscow has denied his claims about the attack. The National Anti-Terrorism Committee, which is part of the Federal Security Services, or FSB, has opened a criminal investigation into Prigozhin on charges of inciting an armed rebellion, state media reported. Russian generals accused the outspoken Prigozhin of attempting to mount an armed coup against President Vladimir Putin, according to the New York Times. Russia deployed armored vehicles into the streets of Moscow and the southern city of Rostov-on-Don, near the Ukrainian front lines in the area where Prigozhin’s troops were deployed in response, the Times reported. There have been no reports of any fighting in the streets.
Quote: “This is not a military coup, but a march of justice,” Prigozhin declared. The state news agency Tass said Putin is aware of the situation. The FSB urged Wagner’s soldiers to arrest Prigozhin on mutiny charges and refuse to follow his “criminal and treacherous orders.” It called his statements a “stab in the back to Russian troops” and said they amounted to fomenting an armed conflict in Russia. Russia’s chief prosecutor said the criminal investigation was justified and that an armed rebellion charge carries a penalty of up to 20 years in prison. Since Russia launched its war in Ukraine 16 months ago, Wagner’s forces have been among the most successful even as Russia’s invasion has largely been stalled by Ukraine’s defense forces, backed by Western allies. Wagner troops successfully took the city of Bakhmut, where some of the most grueling and bloodiest fighting of the war took place. It was the only advance made by Russia last year. Prigozhin has been critical of Russia’s military brass since it was hired to fight, accusing leaders of incompetence and of starving his troops of weapons and ammunition. His feud with Shoigu dates back years. His words on Friday, however, were a more direct challenge. The Russian Defense Ministry required all military contractors to sign contracts with it before July 1, but Prigozhin refused to comply. Prigozhin said in a statement Friday he was willing to find a compromise with the Defense Ministry, but “they have treacherously cheated us.” “Today they carried out a rocket strike on our rear camps, and a huge number of our comrades got killed,” he said. Prigozhin claimed that Shoigu went to the Russian military headquarters in the southern city of Rostov-on-Don personally to direct the strike on Wagner and then “cowardly” fled. “This scum will be stopped,” he said, in reference to Shoigu.
Saturday, June 24, 2023 3:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: BTW, Moscow is not "burning".
Quote:As an American this is a shame I have to rely on another country for the truth about the events in my own borders yet it’s refused. Thank you guys
Saturday, June 24, 2023 5:51 AM
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SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Saturday, June 24, 2023 10:29 AM
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Saturday, June 24, 2023 3:21 PM
Quote:As Was Expected... ... the dawning of reality is in progress for the criminal and his group of accomplices that the game is up. Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko announced on Saturday that he had arranged a deal whereby Wagner Group leader Evgeny Prigozhin will abandon his mutiny in exchange for “security guarantees” for his fighters. “Evgeny Prigozhin accepted the proposal of President Alexander Lukashenko to stop the movement of armed men of Wagner in Russia and take further steps to de-escalate tension,” read a statement from Lukashenko's office. According to the statement, Lukashenko and Prigozhin held talks for the “whole day,” and “came to an agreement on the inadmissibility of unleashing a bloodbath on the territory of Russia.” Wagner returns to its camps near Bakhmut and Soledar and the procedures of disarming and dismantling start from there. Naturally, all camps will be blocked by military. After that FSB and Investigative Committee will start work. Prigozhin, most likely, will try to escape to 404 [Ukraine] where his contacts, both GUR and MI6, are but I doubt anyone will let him. Now, what was the last straw for Prigozhin? Simple--MoD refused to extend contract with Wagner. And as I stated not for once--the real history of Bakhmut is not what you read in shitty TG channels and most media.
Saturday, June 24, 2023 3:59 PM
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Sunday, June 25, 2023 6:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Apparently this was all about a contract that wasn't renewed... https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2023/06/as-was-expected.html
Sunday, June 25, 2023 6:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Moscow Burns is a Medifor. A figure of speech. T
Sunday, June 25, 2023 9:03 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Moscow Burns is a Medifor. A figure of speech.
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Monday, June 26, 2023 2:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Another news item that THUGR is so very wrong about...
Monday, June 26, 2023 3:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Another news item that THUGR is so very wrong about... To be fair to Ted, they made this "coup" a lot more believable than the January 6th production. -------------------------------------------------- Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
Monday, June 26, 2023 11:41 AM
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Monday, June 26, 2023 1:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Russian forces are in the process of creating a nuclear meltdown according to Ukrainian intelligence
Quote: Nuclear Falseflag on Zaporozhye NPP Heats Up + Major Wagner Updates and More A completely coordinated campaign over the last few days has affirmed this. Not only was Budanov’s maiden speech after reappearing from his Kalibrated cranial trepanation centered on Russia’s alleged ‘mining of the ZNPP’ basement, but now several new instances of highly coordinated messaging have been released by Ukraine and its Western controllers. In fact, since that video from days ago, he’s released a new, even more urgently threatening message... “The 4th and 6th power units of the Zaporozhye NPP were mined by Russia,” – Kyrylo Budanov "The situation has never been as serious as it is now. The plan of the terrorist attack at the ZNPP has been fully developed and approved. To accelerate the catastrophe, they can use technical means," Budanov stated Now, Zelensky has made two separate videos where he plainly states that Russia is preparing a massive terrorist attack at the ZNPP plant “just like they did at the Kakhovka dam”. He goes on to sternly warn the world and charge them with the responsibility to act with utmost severity in response to this upcoming Russian attack. He specifically invokes the threat of radiation crossing the borders into other NATO countries for obvious effect. And a day later, in coordinated fashion, Lindsay Graham threatened Russia with massive NATO retaliation should Russia use any type of “nuclear” aggravation
Tuesday, June 27, 2023 8:52 AM
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Tuesday, June 27, 2023 3:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Darth Putin @DarthPutinKGB Remember when I denied Kremlin had anything to do with Wagner? Good times. Still admitting I funded a bunch of war criminals is not going to be an issue for International Criminal Court, is it? 11:54 AM · Jun 27, 2023 https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1673736462313963535 “It’s just a fighting unit that will do anything that Putin says,” he adds. It is a charge the Kremlin denies. In June, Putin said of military contractors in Syria: “These people risk their lives and by and large this is also a contribution in fighting terrorism … but this is not the Russian state, not the Russian army.” But analysts say it’s inconceivable that Wagner would exist without Putin’s approval. Indeed, its training camp in Molkino in southern Russia is attached to a Russian special forces base, guarded by regular soldiers who do not welcome visitors. https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2019/08/africa/putins-private-army-car-intl/
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Wednesday, June 28, 2023 4:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: The one thing I can't square is his calling Prigozhin a traitor and the next day just send him into exile. He's had to explain that recently so I think he's taken some criticism for not dealing with Prigozhin harshly. I'm still trying to figure out the about-face.
Thursday, June 29, 2023 7:29 AM
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Thursday, June 29, 2023 7:02 PM
Thursday, June 29, 2023 7:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Since playback isn't working ATM.. Prigozhin,as it turns out, had been in jail for armed robber - choking and beating a woman on the street along with somebody else, and robbing her of everything including her boots. He was a self-promoting businessman who had lucrative contracts supplying food to schools and the Russian military, as well as being part-owner of Wagner. Apparently his orders were to stay on the outskirts of Bakhmut and engage Ukrainian the periphery. But he decided to take Bakhmut, which meant that many of his fighters were killed and the Russian MoD had to divert troops to protect his flanks, planes, artillery and tanks to keep Wagner from getting slaughtered. As a result of breaking orders his contracts were being eliminated, and that's when he went ballistic. The bad blood between him a the Russian MoD goes back to Syria, when he and a local Syrian warlord decided to cross the line of contact that Russia and USA had decided on, in order to grab some oilfields. When USA asked Russia "are those your guys?" Russuyof course said "no", so USA bombed them and Wagner lost appx a dozen men.
Friday, June 30, 2023 1:07 PM
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