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Monday, March 14, 2022 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: Dugin has zero influence on Putin. Dugin is neither a power figure in the Kremlin (or out of it) nor is he a personal friend.

It's a little like saying that Michael Hudson is Biden's* philosopher.

Signym, I would like to see your proof of Putin's rejection of Dugin's philosophy that Russia should rule over the entire Eurasian continent.

Unfortunately, Putin has not yet provided that proof, although he could, which would end all confusion and controversy about Putin's goals being identical to Dugin's.

I'd also like to see proof that Trump paid more than zero income taxes over the last 20 years, and he could provide such proof, but he hasn't despite saying before he was elected that he would release his income tax returns.

It is peculiar how Trump's tax returns are excluded from "U.S. President, Vice President, Candidate Tax Returns" but no more peculiar than what Putin refuses to reveal about his philosophy. For two guys who talked for tens of thousands of hours, they do have so many unexplained mysteries in their sneaking lives that they won't talk about.

https://www.efile.com/historic-1040-income-tax-returns-of-us-president
s-and-candidates
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Monday, March 14, 2022 10:42 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND: I would like to see proof that Saddam DID NOT have WMD.

In terms of hypothesis-testing, it is impossible to prove a negative.

So stop lying and playing stupid games.

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Monday, March 14, 2022 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: I would like to see proof that Saddam DID NOT have WMD.

In terms of hypothesis-testing, it is impossible to prove a negative.

So stop lying and playing stupid games.

Saddam and WMD is a stupid example, Signym. I'll give you better example. It is possible to prove Trump did NOT pay his taxes, proving a negative, but that requires Trump to reveal his tax returns.

Putin could prove a negative by declaring he rejects Dugin's philosophy that Russians should rule over the Eurasian continent. That would be a pretty easy lie for Putin, but he could make the statement more believable by jailing or assassinating Dugin. Putin has done that kind of thing to his critics.

Here are 10 critics of Vladimir Putin who died violently or in suspicious ways
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/03/23/here-are-
ten-critics-of-vladimir-putin-who-died-violently-or-in-suspicious-ways
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Monday, March 14, 2022 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: I would like to see proof that Saddam DID NOT have WMD.

In terms of hypothesis-testing, it is impossible to prove a negative.

So stop lying and playing stupid games.

Saddam and WMD is a stupid example



No it's not.

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Monday, March 14, 2022 11:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: I would like to see proof that Saddam DID NOT have WMD.

In terms of hypothesis-testing, it is impossible to prove a negative.

So stop lying and playing stupid games.

Saddam and WMD is a stupid example



No it's not.

This example is even smarter: It is possible to prove Trump did NOT pay his taxes, proving a negative, but that requires Trump to reveal his tax returns. Trump has gone to the Supreme Court at least twice to keep his tax returns a secret from the public. Supposedly he "lost" those cases, which means exactly nothing. How the hell do his tax returns remain a secret if Trump "lost" the cases? The public doesn't know if Trump paid anything over the last 20 years.

Why does the Supreme Court go to all the trouble of making a ruling that gets ignored by Trump? February 22, 2021 -- U.S. Supreme Court sets the stage for release of Trump tax returns. When is that stage going to have a Trump tax return on it? Ten years from now? Twenty? This is the stupidest ass thing I have ever seen:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-trump-taxes/u-s-supreme-c
ourt-sets-the-stage-for-release-of-trump-tax-returns-idUSKBN2AM1MN


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Monday, March 14, 2022 11:12 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Trump HAS revealed his tax returns, to the only entity that matters ... the IRS.

AFA Saddam's "WMD" ... Iraq was destroyed, up to a million civilians were killed, the USA wasted trillions, and Saddam was hung because he couldn't prove a negative. Big mistake. Liars like you and Cheney, SECOND, always try to bolster your lies with rhetorical tricks - like changing the topic, or moving goalposts. You've managed to do both, in only two posts!

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Monday, March 14, 2022 11:16 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump HAS revealed his tax returns, to the only entity that matters ... the IRS.



Maybe if we just keep telling the dumb shit this fact it will finally sink in one day.

I seem to recall Wesley Snipes not paying his taxes a few years back in the day. It didn't end well for him if I remember right.

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Monday, March 14, 2022 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump HAS revealed his tax returns, to the only entity that matters ... the IRS.

AFA Saddam's "WMD" ... Iraq was destroyed, up to a million civilians were killed, the USA wasted trillions, and Saddam was hung because he couldn't prove a negative. Big mistake. Liars like you and Cheney, SECOND, always try to bolster your lies with rhetorical tricks - like changing the topic, or moving goalposts. You've managed to do both, in only two posts!

Signym, you don't understand what you write about.

1) The IRS said it doesn't collect $1 trillion per year because, you know, they got the returns but the IRS doesn't audit them. Tax payers are treated by the IRS as if they were honorable, honest, accurate accountants, but the tax payers who are NOT can then underpay by $1 trillion per year. That includes Trump.

The United States is losing $1 trillion in unpaid taxes every year, Charles Rettig, the Internal Revenue Service commissioner, estimated on Tuesday, arguing that the agency lacks the resources to catch tax cheats. -- Oct 13, 2021

2) Saddam Hussein (and Uday Hussein and Qusay Hussein) got executed, not because they couldn't prove they had no WMD, but because they got crosswise with men who had murderous intentions. Lawyers care about WMDs, but killers have very hard and solid reasons, which don't involve gaseous talk about WMDS, to kill.

3) Putin has murderous intentions. His "reasons" given to the press for "special military operations" are not the true reasons he kills.

Is it fair to call Putin a killer? By Leonid Bershidsky
Feb 07, 2017
To call Putin a killer, though, is to reduce Russia's problems to the size of Putin's compact body. The system he has built will likely still be there long after he is gone, and it will keep killing, even if Russia's next leader makes an attempt at liberalization.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-putin-kills-enemi
es-journalists-poison-20170207-story.html



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Monday, March 14, 2022 1:14 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
Signym, you don't understand what you write about.



Second, you change your mind and contradict yourself every five seconds.

Quote:

To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which canceled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them… To forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again… that was the ultimate subtlety.


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Monday, March 14, 2022 1:26 PM

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President Biden can utilize the Defense Production Act to ramp up the deployment of renewable energy to transition the world off fossil fuels and generate millions of good quality union jobs and kick Putin's ass.

The Defense Production Act can provide the historic opportunity to produce alternatives to fossil fuels, fight the climate emergency, combat the stranglehold that Putin and other dictators have on the world’s energy economy, and support the transition to a renewable and just economy.

https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/597781-america-can-rest
ore-its-energy-jobs-and-reduce-emissions


https://www.latimes.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/story/2022-03-13
/defense-production-act-climate-change


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Monday, March 14, 2022 1:51 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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President Biden can utilize the Defense Production Act to ramp up the deployment of renewable energy to transition the world off fossil fuels and generate millions of good quality union jobs and kick Putin's ass.



No he can't. Until somebody admits that we need Nuclear Power to ever be able to make this happen, with windmills and solar panels complimenting it, this is just a dream that will never become reality.


P.S. Your electric cars are worse for the environment than the gas ones are, BTW, not to mention the intense strain it's going to put on our already increasingly strained nation-wide electrical grid.

I wouldn't expect retards like you to understand that though since you think that plugging something into the wall to make it work is powered by magic, and those clean looking batteries that take up half the weight of the entire car are just willed into existence by the very same magic.


Maybe one day you'd understand if we start making rich white Democrats who buy a new iPhone every year hot-box the portion of Chinese smog that was created for all of the unnecessary shit they buy every year from a bong. The bonus here being that they can be human HEPA filters for all of the carbon waste they create and when they're buried (after dying prematurely of Covid related illnesses, obviously), all of the CO2 emissions that were created half a world away to help them keep up with the Jones', along with all of the CO2 emissions that were created shipping it to their door will be sitting harmlessly underground instead of heating up the atmosphere.



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Monday, March 14, 2022 3:23 PM

SIGNYM

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Another Russia-hating hysterical cartoon from THUGR which "proves" that we "aren't" trying to destroy Russia.

/snicker

Tell me, THUGR, if Russia was REALLY deliberately targeting civilians, HOW MANY do you think could be killed in two weeks?

6,000?
10,000?
20,000???

After all, We managed to kill up to a million in Iraq, and we weren't even trying!

So give me your best guess!

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Monday, March 14, 2022 3:31 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Cagle is a kagle.

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Monday, March 14, 2022 3:55 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Oh BTW SECOND, YOU don't know what you're talking about. A government agency can be ineffective and underfunded, and grossly fail to perform year after year, but if you REALLY think that a high visibility project (such as auditing Trump's taxes) gets handled like everything else... that it DOESN'T get maximum effort and full attention... then I have a Taj Mahal to sell!

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Monday, March 14, 2022 4:23 PM

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Despite the Russian Revolution and the many Soviet slogans about brotherhood and equality, the cruel tendencies of Ivan the Terrible survived well into the 20th century. In a conversation with Sergei Eisenstein, the film director who made a biopic about Ivan the Terrible, Joseph Stalin said, “When Ivan the Terrible had someone executed, he would spend a long time in repentance and prayer. God was a hindrance to him in this respect. He should have been more decisive.”

None of the “He could not tell a lie” mythology surrounding George Washington or folksy quotes like President Gerald Ford’s “Tell the truth, work hard, and come to dinner on time” for Joseph Stalin. No, his problem with Ivan the Terrible was that he just wasn’t quite terrible enough. And if Stalin’s cruelty didn’t have all the baroque torturing of his predecessors, he certainly killed more of his own countrymen than probably any Russian leader. Impossible to know the exact number of Russians killed by Stalin (through direct executions, starvation, or gulags), but scholars agree it was in the millions.

Stalin was particularly hard on Ukraine. Between 1932 and 1933, close to 4 million Ukrainians died from a terrible famine called the Holdomor, meaning death by famine in Russian. With its rich black earth, seasons of summer wheat and winter wheat, Ukraine never should have seen mass starvation.

There is still debate among scholars as to whether the famine was caused by Stalin’s sheer ineptitude managing the agricultural economy or intentionally done out of his hatred of Ukrainians. Regardless, Stalin, like Putin, couldn’t stand the idea of an independent Ukraine and did his utmost to kill any movement toward independence from the Soviet Union. Whether through summary executions, imprisonment, or torture, he brutalized hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian writers, politicians, priests, and intellectuals if they ever strayed whatsoever from the Soviet agitprop.

Putin has quietly revived Stalin in Russia and compared him to Oliver Cromwell, the English general who lead the charge in not one but two civil wars. That he chose Cromwell, one of the most brutal generals in England’s history, for a favorable comparison is telling.

More at https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2022/03/putin-the-terrible-the-c
owardice-of-a-shunned-tyrant.html


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Monday, March 14, 2022 4:40 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Oh BTW SECOND, YOU don't know what you're talking about. A government agency can be ineffective and underfunded, and grossly fail to perform year after year, but if you REALLY think that a high visibility project (such as auditing Trump's taxes) gets handled like everything else... that it DOESN'T get maximum effort and full attention... then I have a Taj Mahal to sell!

What does anyone care about a secret audit of Trump? It is not of any interest to anyone.

What is important is that Trump paid no income taxes in 20 years. There is no proof he has ever paid. None whatsoever. But Trump could, with a phone call to his accountants, make that proof available in the form of a pdf file for each year. But Trump would say some anti-truth that it is thousands of pages of paper to be distributed to millions of people and the cost would be prohibitive. Therefore he can't and that is beside the "fact" that the IRS is "auditing" him. Until the "audit" is "completed", Trump would say that revealing his tax returns is not just a bad idea but it cannot "legally" be done.

Donald Trump's Tax Return Lies, A Supercut



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Monday, March 14, 2022 5:54 PM

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Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
BTW, as you can see from SECOND'S post, we really DO want to destroy Russia. Every anti-Russian post by you, SECOND, CAPON, and JAYNEZ drives that point home, over and over.



I wouldn't care a fig about Russia if they'd just stop invading other countries and fcking with the world economy. And it's not "Russia." This is all on your bff, Putin. One. Fcking. Guy.

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Russian troops captured by Ukrainian forces claim they’re “already considered dead” at home and fear they’ll face a firing squad if they’re sent back home.



Told you so signym. Hey, kiki's a deserter aye.

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Russian troops captured by Ukrainian forces claim they’re “already considered dead” at home and fear they’ll face a firing squad if they’re sent back home.



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Monday, March 14, 2022 7:33 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:A government agency can be ineffective and underfunded, and grossly fail to perform year after year


It can also do those things and be obscenely over-funded.

Ask me how I know.



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Monday, March 14, 2022 7:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
President Biden can utilize the Defense Production Act to ramp up the deployment of renewable energy to transition the world off fossil fuels and generate millions of good quality union jobs and kick Putin's ass.



No he can't. Until somebody admits that we need Nuclear Power to ever be able to make this happen, with windmills and solar panels complimenting it, this is just a dream that will never become reality.


P.S. Your electric cars are worse for the environment than the gas ones are, BTW, not to mention the intense strain it's going to put on our already increasingly strained nation-wide electrical grid.

I wouldn't expect retards like you to understand that though since you think that plugging something into the wall to make it work is powered by magic, and those clean looking batteries that take up half the weight of the entire car are just willed into existence by the very same magic.


Maybe one day you'd understand if we start making rich white Democrats who buy a new iPhone every year hot-box the portion of Chinese smog that was created for all of the unnecessary shit they buy every year from a bong. The bonus here being that they can be human HEPA filters for all of the carbon waste they create and when they're buried (after dying prematurely of Covid related illnesses, obviously), all of the CO2 emissions that were created half a world away to help them keep up with the Jones', along with all of the CO2 emissions that were created shipping it to their door will be sitting harmlessly underground instead of heating up the atmosphere.





Not touching that one, huh?

Good idea.



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Monday, March 14, 2022 7:39 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


OMG I can't believe the ridiculous anti-Russian propaganda being poured into the western media.
RUSSIANS EAT BABIES FOR BREAKFAST AND ABORTED FETUSES FOR DESSERT!
CHECHENS RAPE THEIR WAY THRU MARIUPOL
RUSSIANS CONDUCT GRUESOME BIO-EXPERIMENTS ON PRISONERS!

Does anyone really believe that shit?

I can hardly wait for the chemical/bioweapon false flag! Western neocons are certainly preparing the soil for it.

*****

So THUGR, you haven't answered my Q: If Russia really is targeting civilians, how many do you suppose they could kill in 2-3 weeks?

3,000?
6,000?
20,000?

After all, we killed up to a million Iraqi civilians, and we weren't even trying!
What's your best guess?

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Monday, March 14, 2022 8:08 PM

SIGNYM

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Well, THUGR?

care to hazard a guess on how many civilians killed by Russians so far?

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Monday, March 14, 2022 9:11 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, THUGR?

care to hazard a guess on how many civilians killed by Russians so far?

Russia sincerely doesn't care how many die. For example of not caring:

The Russian Foreign Minister said at the UN a little while ago that the murder of reporter Brent Renaud was legitimate because he was a "filmmaker" and not a "journalist".

Apparently he believes that not only do new Russian laws outlawing anyone filming or reporting on their war/invasion apply in the foreign land they are trying to occupy, but that a penalty of summary execution without trial of filmmakers from a third country is a legitimate action.

For the record, the wounded reporter who was with Brent Renaud says that they were denied access through a Russian checkpoint in Ukraine. The driver had turned the vehicle around and they were leaving the area when the Russians opened fire on their vehicle.



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Monday, March 14, 2022 10:00 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


"Except that's not what he said. Plus, his statement was cut off, so we don't know what ELSE he said.

Key points "APPARENTLY from a Russian shot"
Yet to be determined.

"We regret any death..."
Not the callous statement you imply.

Russians would not shoot a journalist or filmmaker on purpose: that's too much bad publicity.

But they might shoot one by mistake. The circumstances aren't clear. Were they approaching a checkpoint? Had they been cleared at the checkpoint? Did they just drive through, swimming upstream, so to speak, of the refugees? Had they turned around? How to account for their wounds to the back? (There was another person with him.) Were they asked to halt? If so, did they hear and/or understand?

Were they wearing any sort of insignia identifying themselves as filmmakers? (Not being journalists, they would not have had "journalist" tags.) We're their cameras obvious?

I can imagine situations where checkpoint guards simply see two fit guys driving into a city from which many people are fleeing. They should have stopped, or been stopped, at the checkpoint and been cleared. But maybe the checkpoint wasn't obvious, or they didn't hear the order, or they were so anxious to get the story they ignored all that and drive through, and what we have is a tragic misunderstanding by the guards.

In civilian life, circumstances make the difference between accident (I tripped and fell and the gun went off), negligent homicide (I was cleaning a loaded gun and it went off), manslaughter (I thought it was a robber but it was just my neighbor) and murder (I killed that SOB bc he voted for Trump).

Not sure about war.



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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 7:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

I can imagine . . .

. . . what you're doing, Signym, is being an apologist for murder. You're really committed to the role because you used more words than the Russian Ambassador to the UN.

Two more points:

1) If Trump wanted to prove the world wrong that believes he cheated on his income taxes and paid nothing, he should make his income tax forms publicly available. He said he would, many-many times, but he didn't. I think that is proof Trump cheated on his taxes and doesn't want the cheating confirmed.

2) If Putin wanted to prove the world wrong about his ambition to conquer the Eurasian continent, he should arrest/execute his philosopher, Aleksandr Dugin. Putin has arrested/executed many-many others who have plans for Russia incompatible with Putin's. Dugin is just one more.

Philosophers like Dugin tend to be more systematic than politicians like Putin. Unlike a politician, a philosopher will be more forthright, less sneaky, about ultimate goals. This philosopher Dugin, who Putin knows, doesn't run Russia, but if he did . . .

Aleksandr Dugin: The sinister ideologue who's Putin's favourite philosopher
by Alex Hearn
https://www.thejc.com/lets-talk/all/aleksandr-dugin-the-sinister-ideol
ogue-whos-putins-favourite-philosopher-3829SiTsfS8P7UK19PwT4k


Putin's philosopher, Aleksandr Dugin, has been written about. See:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=aleksandr+dugin

Here is an interesting book from Amazon: "The American Empire Should Be Destroyed": Alexander Dugin and the Perils of Immanentized Eschatology
https://www.amazon.com/American-Empire-Should-Destroyed-Immanentized/d
p/1891469436
/
"All too often, history is driven by the mad passions and ambitions of tyrants — and by warped visions of "progress" crafted in the shadows behind their thrones. James Heiser's brilliant new book drags one of today's most dangerous "gray eminences" into the light. His careful, intricate analysis reveals Aleksandr Dugin, whose twisted ideology shapes Vladimir Putin’s brutal and aggressive effort to build a Eurasian empire centered on Russia. This is a must-read for anyone who wants to understand the perilous and irrational motivations of those who now rule in Moscow."

Putin won't clearly state his ultimate goals because he is sly and crafty, but his philosopher, like all philosophers, will expound in great detail on what Russia should ultimately become -- the ruler of all Eurasia, the vast continent, biggest in the world.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 8:16 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


"Murder"?

You should talk!

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 8:40 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"Murder"?

You should talk!

Where is the proof? There is actual proof Russia killed civilians, but in our silly world run by lawyers, not by engineers, nobody brings the corpses as evidence. Instead, there are endless words thrown back and forth on TV. Somebody should bring the murdered corpses to the UN and throw the corpses on top of the Russian ambassador. And while the UN is at it, drag Putin and his philosopher Dugin to the UN and have Putin publicly denounce Dugin for his vision of Russian conquest of Eurasia. But Putin won't be denouncing Dugin because Putin is conquering Eurasia.

None of that will happen. And Trump will not be showing his tax returns to prove he is not a crook. He will continue denying that he cheated and if the IRS won't confiscate Trump's wealth, Trump will never pay.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 9:18 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

"Murder"?

You should talk!






Hey Signym, do you remember the wall? It was put in place to keep people and countries answering to one authority: Russia. When the Soviet Union collapsed these people and countries regained their autonomy and they do not want to give it up.

Russia did not own these countries then, although it acted as if it did, which is why Russia’s attempt at a NATO failed. Just as everything Russia always fails.

It is not NATO that is destroying Russia. This time, as in the past, it is being destroyed from within.


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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 10:29 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
OMG I can't believe the ridiculous anti-Russian propaganda being poured into the western media.
RUSSIANS EAT BABIES FOR BREAKFAST AND ABORTED FETUSES FOR DESSERT!
CHECHENS RAPE THEIR WAY THRU MARIUPOL
RUSSIANS CONDUCT GRUESOME BIO-EXPERIMENTS ON PRISONERS!

Does anyone really believe that shit?



No.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

Does anyone really believe that shit?



No.

Mark Twain says you are wrong. The truth has no defense against a fool determined to believe a lie.
http://www.twainquotes.com/Lies.html

Not just Putin: Most Russians support the war in Ukraine
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/not-just-putin-most
-russians-support-the-war-in-ukraine
/

Ain't we got all the fools in town on our side? And ain't that a big enough majority in any town?
- The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn

Let us be thankful for the fools; but for them the rest of us could not succeed.
- Following the Equator; Pudd'nhead Wilson's New Calendar
http://www.twainquotes.com/Fool.html

Warren Buffett: We learned a long time ago that you can’t make a good deal with a bad person. Just forget it. Now, if you think you can draw up a contract that is going to work against a bad person, they’re gonna win. They probably enjoy litigation but, Berkshire Hathaway as an entity, or me personally, or anything, we don’t wanna spend our life doing that sort of thing. And, and besides, the bad guys win. They know more games. They may lose eventually, but it’s no way to spend your life.
https://acquirersmultiple.com/2021/06/charles-munger-easy-money-is-wit
h-crooks-and-fools
/

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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 11:30 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

Does anyone really believe that shit?



No.

Mark Twain says you are wrong.



Mark Twain has been dead for 112 years. Mark Twain was dead 81 years before Ukraine was a country. Mark Twain says nothing.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 11:32 AM

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And don't talk about fools buying into lies when time always proves that you're wrong about everything.

Everything.



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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And don't talk about fools buying into lies when time always proves that you're wrong about everything.

Everything.

Among the Trump voters I know, there is not one of them who ever stops patting themselves on the back for being superior about everything. Unsuccessful people always find someone, other than themselves, to blame when their life goes wrong. It's the rule among the unsuccessful. They can fool themselves into believing they are right and those who disagree are wrong. The Russians, and Republicans, have had just as many years to become successful as Democrats. The Russians, who I don't have personal experience with, and Republicans, which I have too much experience, never look closely at the decisions they made, as if their decisions aren't what rules over their lives.

Meanwhile, the Russians think they're doing a great job, but any economic hardships are NATO's fault. What a bunch of fools. The Russians' economic history is one fuck up after another. The Ukraine-Russia War is just the latest and dumbest economics fuck up by Russia. The Russians actually believe the war is a good thing. Not just Putin: Most Russians support the war in Ukraine
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/not-just-putin-most
-russians-support-the-war-in-ukraine
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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 12:39 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


LOL... keep trying to shame me in vain buddy.

I'm retired.

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LOL... keep trying to shame me in vain buddy.

I'm retired.

6ix, guys like you die young from lung cancer. Smoking makes them macho. Even when they've got to use an Inogen One portable oxygen machine, they still smoke and vote Trump because, you know, they got to.

Rush Limbaugh died from lung cancer after denying smoking's risk. Why'd he believe his lie? If you’re certain that you’re smarter than most other people and you tune out all evidence that contradicts that, why wouldn’t you believe yourself?
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/rush-limbaugh-died-lung-cancer-a
fter-denying-smoking-s-risk-ncna1258395


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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 6:08 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Because we all want to grow up to be old and wrinkly with a dick that doesn't work like you, Arthur.

It's cool. I retired at 32.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 6:32 PM

THG



Jack says he retired at 32. What that means is he is sucking on a government teat. Thirty two years of age and he can’t provide for himself. All he can do is troll firefly posters. What a fucking loser.

SECOND, your post makes the point in a roundabout way those who attack a free and fair press, are in bed with Putin and other authoritarians as well as terrorists. They are their useful idiots. Sediments of societies that dwell in the gutter.


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Tuesday, March 15, 2022 8:25 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nah. I bought a house with cash at 32. I bought the car with cash at 28. I have no debt. I have very little in the way of bills. I get to shit post your stupid wage-slave ass on my $20 per month internet connection. The same speed internet connection that stupid people like you pay $50 for. Probably $60 because you're stupid and you rent your modem too.

Have fun at work tomorrow bitch.



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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I get to shit post your stupid wage-slave ass on my $20 per month internet connection. The same speed internet connection that stupid people like you pay $50 for. Probably $60 because you're stupid and you rent your modem too.

Have fun at work tomorrow bitch.

You would get free internet if your neighbors trusted you enough to trust with their Wi-Fi password. But Trump lovers sensibly don't trust one another, so you have to pay. But weirdly they trust fast-talking criminals -- Trump, Rush Limbaugh, and Alex Jones, for examples. In Russia they trust Putin, another obvious criminal:



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Wednesday, March 16, 2022 12:21 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

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You would get free internet if your neighbors trusted you enough to trust with their Wi-Fi password. But Trump lovers sensibly don't trust one another, so you have to pay.



Do you even listen to yourself.




I'm good dude. The average American is going to pay more in interest payments this year than it costs for all of my bills and necessities combined with enough leftover to go on a cruise that I'm not going to go on because I'm not an idiot.

https://www.thesimpledollar.com/loans/personal/heres-how-much-the-aver
age-american-pays-in-interest-each-year/?platform=hootsuite


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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
You would get free internet if your neighbors trusted you enough to trust with their Wi-Fi password. But Trump lovers sensibly don't trust one another, so you have to pay.



Do you even listen to yourself.

I'm good dude. The average American is going to pay more in interest payments this year than it costs for all of my bills and necessities combined with enough leftover to go on a cruise that I'm not going to go on because I'm not an idiot.

https://www.thesimpledollar.com/loans/personal/heres-how-much-the-aver
age-american-pays-in-interest-each-year/?platform=hootsuite

You have another characteristic that Trump lovers and Putin lovers have: no imagination. T & P lovers literally, not figuratively, can't imagine the object of their love is a crook, a criminal, until he is in jail and the last of his appeals to a higher court have been denied. T & P lovers' lack of imagination allow Trump & Putin to roam around freely, doing whatever non-stop liars do with their days. Presumably, Putin will put in a full day telling people with no imagination that he is winning the war with neo-Nazis in Ukraine. Trump will be doing the same -- won the Election of 2020. Neither Trump nor Putin will actually be paying their income taxes this year, since Putin claims he only makes an estimated $150,000 per year and Trump claims he owes nothing for the 20th year in a row because of tax write-offs. Trump & Putin lovers cannot imagine their love-objects are cheating on their taxes.



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Oh. I've got plenty of imagination too. The future owners of this house will have a one of a kind piece of art when I'm done with it.

I also wouldn't have bothered saving up money during the good times if I didn't imagine myself in a situation where I answer to no one but myself in the future either.



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Oh. I've got plenty of imagination too. The future owners of this house will have a one of a kind piece of art when I'm done with it.

I also wouldn't have bothered saving up money during the good times if I didn't imagine myself in a situation where I answer to no one but myself in the future either.

With all your planning and saving and years of work, you have equaled what birds and flowers achieve with no plan, no saving, no work:

Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin, yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

https://www.openbible.info/topics/consider_the_lilies_of_the_field

Presumably, 6ix, you realize that birds and flowers never were bossed around like you have been, which is because birds and flowers would never believe liars like Putin and Trump nor help them in any manner.

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh. I've got plenty of imagination too. The future owners of this house will have a one of a kind piece of art when I'm done with it.

I also wouldn't have bothered saving up money during the good times if I didn't imagine myself in a situation where I answer to no one but myself in the future either.

With all your planning and saving and years of work, you have equaled what birds and flowers achieve with no plan, no saving, no work:





Not THAT many years.



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In the span of a couple of weeks, Vladimir Putin — a man recently described by Donald Trump as a strategic “genius” — managed to revitalize NATO, unify a splintered West, turn Ukraine’s little-known president into a global hero, wreck Russia’s economy, and solidify his legacy as a murderous war criminal.

How did he miscalculate so badly?

For those of us living in liberal democracies, criticizing the boss is risky, but we’re not going to be shipped off to a gulag or watch our family get tortured. In authoritarian regimes, those all-too-real risks have a way of focusing the mind. Is it ever worthwhile for authoritarian advisers to speak truth to power?

As a result, despots rarely get told that their stupid ideas are stupid, or that their ill-conceived wars are likely to be catastrophic. Offering honest criticism is a deadly game and most advisers avoid doing so. Those who dare to gamble eventually lose and are purged. So over time, the advisers who remain are usually yes-men who act like bobbleheads, nodding along when the despot outlines some crackpot scheme.

More at https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/vladimir-putin-has-fallen-into-
the-dictator-trap/ar-AAV7Lky


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In the span of a couple of weeks, Vladimir Putin — a man recently described by Donald Trump as a strategic “genius” — managed to revitalize NATO, unify a splintered West, turn Ukraine’s little-known president into a global hero, wreck Russia’s economy, and solidify his legacy as a murderous war criminal.

How did he miscalculate so badly?



Just like your free birds, he didn't actually have to do anything.

CNN and the rest of the propaganda machine did all the work.



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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
In the span of a couple of weeks, Vladimir Putin — a man recently described by Donald Trump as a strategic “genius” — managed to revitalize NATO, unify a splintered West, turn Ukraine’s little-known president into a global hero, wreck Russia’s economy, and solidify his legacy as a murderous war criminal.

How did he miscalculate so badly?



Just like your free birds, he didn't actually have to do anything.

CNN and the rest of the propaganda machine did all the work.

CNN, not the Ukraine military, are to blame for Putin's problems in Ukraine and with Germany? That is a pretty stupid explanation, 6ix.

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Quote:

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Just like your free birds, he didn't actually have to do anything.

CNN and the rest of the propaganda machine did all the work.



Are you like SIGS and think there aren't any Russian troops fighting in Ukraine?

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In the span of a couple of weeks, Vladimir Putin — a man recently described by Donald Trump as a strategic “genius” — managed to revitalize NATO, unify a splintered West, turn Ukraine’s little-known president into a global hero, wreck Russia’s economy, and solidify his legacy as a murderous war criminal.



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