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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 3:15 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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Trump obstructed Mueller's Investigation of Russian Interference.
Prove it.

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 6:21 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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SIGNYM:
"Russia needs breaking up,"
Isn't that for the Russians to decide?Or do you figure that you have the right to decide how to run the whole world?
With your kind of attitude, no wonder Putin is antsy about security!


SECOND: What Putin is attempting to do to Ukraine, he already has done to Russian republics. Putin has not asked Ukrainians for their permission,

Putin has done nothing to "Ukraine". He doesn't want it. And, yes, Crimeans VOTED to join Russia so, yes, they were asked.

And, as usual, you mirepresent the republics' status. They were never independent, but only relatively recently granted concessions by Yeltsin during the breakup of the Soviet Union. However, they were ALL still subject to Federal law and the constitution.

But the breakup was chaotic, driven by money-grabbing by local elites, and the various republics were given differing concessions leading to significant differences in authority, autonomy, and economic clout among them.Many of them adopted laws that clearly violated the Constitution.

It would be as if Mississippi voted slavery back into existence, for example, and Florida was required to maintain an army.

What the courts did was re-establish equality between them, creating clear divisions and lines of authority- what the Federal government is supposed to do, what th regions are supposed to do. Since the republics were still subject to Russian law and Constitution, and (BTW) still elected representatives to the Duma, this was done legislatively and through court decisions.

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Reform per se is nevertheless not a risky proposal. Changes were overdue to strengthen governance capacity; diminishing the influence of regional leaders over federal bureaucrats located in the regions; establishing more coherence in inter-budgetary relations, and sanctioning regions which flouted the constitution or federal laws. This article argues that it is possible to identify three axioms underlying Putin’s conception of federalism as articulated in his rhetoric and programme of reform, namely:
the equality of citizens,
symmetry of governments,
and a rigid division of powers and competences among
levels of authority.



So "Putin" didn't do "all th deciding".

At the same time, some of these regions are so sparsely populated that they can't even collect enough taxes to maintain administrative functions, so the federal government subsifies some of these regions to the tune of appx 45-55% of the budgets.

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In turn, the federal budget distributes subsidies to those regions that cannot collect enough taxes to ensure at least minimal local administrative functions. In 2020, 72 out of Russia’s 85 federal subjects were recipients of such payouts. The most dependent on federal subsidies are the national republics, like Tyva (subsidies account for 54 percent of the region’s budget revenues); Dagestan (52 percent); Chechnya (50 percent); Ingushetia (49 percent) and Altai (45 percent).

https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/russia-economic-development/
n any case, it seems to me that it is up to the peoples of Russia - NOT YOU, AND NOT WESTERN POWERS- to decide what is to happen to them. If you disagree it is YOU being undemocratic, not them. (But you have posted many times you hate democracy, so no surprise there!)

The only reason why the west wants to break up Russia is to be able to do away with the large national government, deal with smaller more vulnerable units and to exploit Russia's natural and economic resources on terms more favorable to non-Russian elites.

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:27 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

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Trump obstructed Mueller's Investigation of Russian Interference.
Prove it.

Apparently, you don't click links:

"This Volume of our report summarizes our obstruction-of-justice investigation of the President."
Page 213 of 448
https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download

Report On The Investigation Into
Russian Interference In The
2016 Presidential Election
Volume II of II
Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller, III

Let me anticipate your next objection, which would be that Trump is not in jail nor was he convicted in an impeachment, making his reelection in 2024 moot, therefore how could Trump have obstructed justice?

1kiki, the links you won't click (nor will allow yourself to understand if you did click) will explain, but you already know why that all the Democratic Senators and 7 Republican Senators voted to never allow Trump to run for office again.
https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impeachment-trial-live-updates/2021
/02/15/967878039/7-gop-senators-voted-to-convict-trump-only-1-faces-voters-next-year


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:30 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


He'll run again.



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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:37 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

In any case, it seems to me that it is up to the peoples of Russia - NOT YOU, AND NOT WESTERN POWERS- to decide what is to happen to them. If you disagree it is YOU being undemocratic, not them. (But you have posted many times you hate democracy, so no surprise there!)

Did Putin give Ukraine the equivalent of the Brexit Referendum? No. Putin did not. Nor did Putin have 22 Referendums before he ended 22 Russian Republics. Putin doesn't ask permission from all the little Citizens, not just the already powerful Big Shots. Too bad Putin is not that decisive about reviving the Russian economy.

Brexit Referendum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membe
rship_referendum


The Soviet Union broke apart because of its poor economic performance.
How well is the New Russia's economic performance compared to the USA? Not so good.
Russia needs breaking up, but Putin is gluing the 22 pieces of the Russian Republics back together:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=Lbxl


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:58 AM

THG


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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ted and Second can't fuckin' wait for another war.

Don't jerk off too hard, Theodore. You might break it off.

When Putin writes Ukraine is Russian, I'm pretty sure he is trolling to argue that Ukraine should be ruled from Moscow. And when Putin talks about radioactive ash and hyper-sonic missiles, I'm a little less sure he's trolling that Ukraine should be ruled from Moscow. Putin is Joker with nukes.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Ukraine 'will not accept' concessions to Russia, Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba says

Ukraine "will not allow anyone to impose any concessions on us" as part of efforts to de-escalate the threat of conflict with Russia, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba told CNN in an exclusive interview Tuesday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-will-not-accept-concessio
ns-to-russia-foreign-minister-dmytro-kuleba-says/ar-AAT7oeY?ocid=msedgntp




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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 9:16 AM

THG


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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

In any case, it seems to me that it is up to the peoples of Russia - NOT YOU, AND NOT WESTERN POWERS- to decide what is to happen to them. If you disagree it is YOU being undemocratic, not them. (But you have posted many times you hate democracy, so no surprise there!)

Did Putin give Ukraine the equivalent of the Brexit Referendum? No. Putin did not. Nor did Putin have 22 Referendums before he ended 22 Russian Republics. Putin doesn't ask permission from all the little Citizens, not just the already powerful Big Shots. Too bad Putin is not that decisive about reviving the Russian economy.






Signym talks shit. Her posts make no sense. The hypocrisy, two-facedness, contained within her posts when posting about Russia and its behavior is reprehensible.

As always, with comrade signmy Russia can do no wrong. As always with comrade signym her posts are dependent upon the reader believing her lies and not reality. She is a very sick woman.

T



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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 9:29 AM

THG


Kyiv mayor accuses Germany of betraying Ukraine after it refused to send weapons

The mayor of Ukraine's capital, Kyiv, accused Germany of betraying Ukraine by not giving the country arms as Russia appears ready to invade.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kyiv-mayor-accuses-germany-of-bet
raying-ukraine-after-it-refused-to-send-weapons/ar-AAT7iON?ocid=msedgntp




Germany choses low oil prices.

T



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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 9:30 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by THG:
Signym talks shit. Her posts make no sense. The hypocrisy, two-facedness, contained within her posts when posting about Russia and its behavior is reprehensible. As always, with comrade signmy Russia can do no wrong. As always with comrade signym her posts are dependent upon the reader believing her lies.

T



Signym is more articulate, but less rabid, than any Trump lovers I know in Texas. I don't talk politics to Republican Texans because they live in a crazy land, the same psychological space that Confederate slave-owners lived in when the Rebels were crazily opposed to Abolitionists. The "wokeness" of Abolitionists drove Rebels crazy.

The War on ‘Wokeness’

The opponents of wokeness — whether they be conservatives who believe it injures the ideal of America as inherently good, or moderate Democrats worried that it handicaps their electoral prospects — want to kill it.

Republicans want to recast “wokeness” as progressive politics run amok, and many establishment Democrats shrink from the term because they either believe that Republicans have succeeded at the task, or, of even more concern, they agree with those Republicans.

Being awake to and aware of how our systems of power operate creates enemies across the political spectrum because wokeness indicts both Republicans and Democrats alike. Wokeness indicts the status quo.

And so, wokeness has been referred to in the most hyperbolic language imaginable, from ideology to religion to cult. It has been so derided and adulterated that young people who are what one would have called woke five years ago no longer even use the term.

Perhaps nothing helps to illustrate the chasm between moderates and progressives as well as a skirmish last week between the Democratic strategist James Carville and the Democratic Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

More at https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/10/opinion/wokeness-racism-politics.ht
ml


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 10:20 AM

THG


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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by THG:

Signym talks shit. Her posts make no sense. The hypocrisy, two-facedness, contained within her posts when posting about Russia and its behavior is reprehensible. As always, with comrade signmy Russia can do no wrong. As always with comrade signym her posts are dependent upon the reader believing her lies.

T



Signym is more articulate, but less rabid, than any Trump lovers I know in Texas. I don't talk politics to Republican Texans because they live in a crazy land, the same psychological space that Confederate slave-owners lived in when the Rebels were crazily opposed to Abolitionists. The "wokeness" of Abolitionists drove Rebels crazy.






Who cares if you are expressive, if what you articulate is based on lies and propaganda? Or if you change the context of written media content to promote or articulate a lie you wish to propagate? Who cares if you are articulate when doing so?

Comrade Signym does this and more when she posts. And no topic is off limits when it comes to her biasing the facts. She has also over the years repeatedly contrived fake personal relationships with all manner of experts so she can post their experiences supporting her conclusions. She’s a liar, a con and a troll. And oh yeah; a Polish Russian Collaborator who lies on behalf of Trump.



T



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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 10:23 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by THG:
Kyiv mayor accuses Germany of betraying Ukraine after it refused to send weapons

The mayor of Ukraine's capital, Kyiv, accused Germany of betraying Ukraine by not giving the country arms as Russia appears ready to invade.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kyiv-mayor-accuses-germany-of-bet
raying-ukraine-after-it-refused-to-send-weapons/ar-AAT7iON?ocid=msedgntp




Germany choses low oil prices.

T





You seem to care so much...

Why don't you go over there and fight Putin yourself, you little twink.

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 10:28 AM

THG

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 10:31 AM

THG

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 10:32 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Ted's cumming all over himself today with this news.

Ted can't wait for war.

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 11:11 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by THG:

Who cares if you are expressive, if what you articulate is based on lies and propaganda? Or if you change the context of written media content to promote or articulate a lie you wish to propagate? Who cares if you are articulate when doing so?

Comrade Signym does this and more when she posts. And no topic is off limits when it comes to her biasing the facts. She has also over the years repeatedly contrived fake personal relationships with all manner of experts so she can post their experiences supporting her conclusions. She’s a liar, a con and a troll. And oh yeah; a Polish Russian Collaborator who lies on behalf of Trump.



T



I'm guessing you don't have a workforce where half the people, the Trump loving half, are incompetent, unreliable, and lie to you in their attempts to deceive you into believing they are honest. These workers are wacko in the head, but if you give them tasks that don't require initiative and, if they fail, won't destroy your business, they can be useful. I wish the Trump lovers would regain their sanity but I think they will die as insane as they lived.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 11:12 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


All the lazy dumb shits that I've ever worked with were Biden* voters.

Democrats love them some free handouts for nothing in return.



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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 11:29 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All the lazy dumb shits that I've ever worked with were Biden* voters.

Democrats love them some free handouts for nothing in return.

I won't promote people who lie to me while trying to persuade me they are honest. They don't like that about me. Tough shit, but they are crazy if they think I give promotions for being dishonest. Hey! They should become salesmen, where dishonesty is rewarded!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 12:27 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIGNYM:

In any case, it seems to me that it is up to the peoples of Russia - NOT YOU, AND NOT WESTERN POWERS- to decide what is to happen to them. If you disagree it is YOU being undemocratic, not them. (But you have posted many times you hate democracy, so no surprise there!)

SECOND: Did Putin give Ukraine the equivalent of the Brexit Referendum?

Did Ukraine NEED the equivalent of a Brexit referendum?

NO.

Ukraine was an independent nation under Putin. It had its own President, its own Parliament (Rada), military, elections ... It was bound only by a trade association ... there was no Russian governance of Ukraine.
WTF ARE you going on about???? Do you even know?

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Nor did Putin have 22 Referendums before he ended 22 Russian Republics.
Did Putin END 22 republics?
NO. The republics were not "ended", since they NEVER EXISTED as independent nations in the first place. They were all bound by the Russian constitution, were represented in the Duma, fell under the umbrella of the Russian nation (and military), did not have "international" borders, and existed as "titular nations" only.
So WTF ARE you going on about?
Do you even know?

*****

AFA Russian economic performance .... well, let's see how Russia and the USA stack up in real terms.

The USA is in hock up to - and beyond- its ears, to... well, everyone.
The USA has major trade deficits with... well... everyone.
The USA standard of living has been falling for at least 30 years, and the middle class is disappearing.
The USA is de-industrialized and depends on ... well... everyone... for its major industrial chemicals, commodities, and parts.
Infrastructure is crumbling.
The USA is dependent on energy imports... even from Russia!
The USA's so-called "economy" is primarily made of services and the FIRE (finance, insurance, and real estate) sector, which are speculative and non-productive.
A major financial meltdown or loss of confidence in the USD would see much USA "wealth" disappear in a flash, along with a a large chunk of "GDP" which is nothing but funny-money.

Meanwhile, Russia's real economy is growing.
The standard of living is rising.
Russia's debt is 20% of GDP (not 120%, like the USA's) and the government is running a surplus
Russia is energy and food-secure.
Infrastructure is developing.

Seems like we need to manage and measure our economy so that it is something more than bubbles, speculation, and bullshit numbers. If we want to REALLY be independent and secure, we need a base on which to stand. We don't have that, but we should.


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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 12:36 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All the lazy dumb shits that I've ever worked with were Biden* voters.

Democrats love them some free handouts for nothing in return.

I won't promote people who lie to me while trying to persuade me they are honest. They don't like that about me. Tough shit, but they are crazy if they think I give promotions for being dishonest. Hey! They should become salesmen, where dishonesty is rewarded!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Then you should fire yourself, SECOND, because you are a pathological liar who even lies to himself... and believes his own lies. (And that's the most dangerous kind of lie bc it means you don't know reality from fiction anymore. Makes you pretty unstable IMHO.)

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 1:54 PM

THG


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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Who cares if you are expressive, if what you articulate is based on lies and propaganda? Or if you change the context of written media content to promote or articulate a lie you wish to propagate? Who cares if you are articulate when doing so?

Comrade Signym does this and more when she posts. And no topic is off limits when it comes to her biasing the facts. She has also over the years repeatedly contrived fake personal relationships with all manner of experts so she can post their experiences supporting her conclusions. She’s a liar, a con and a troll. And oh yeah; a Polish Russian Collaborator who lies on behalf of Trump.



T



I'm guessing you don't have a workforce where half the people, the Trump loving half, are incompetent, unreliable, and lie to you in their attempts to deceive you into believing they are honest. These workers are wacko in the head, but if you give them tasks that don't require initiative and, if they fail, won't destroy your business, they can be useful. I wish the Trump lovers would regain their sanity but I think they will die as insane as they lived.





You should never guess.

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 2:02 PM

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I would like to personally thank Putin for single-handedly reuniting NATO. Good job, way to go Putie.

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 2:30 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

AFA Russian economic performance .... well, let's see how Russia and the USA stack up in real terms.

The USA is in hock up to - and beyond- its ears, to... well, everyone.
The USA has major trade deficits with... well... everyone.
The USA standard of living has been falling for at least 30 years, and the middle class is disappearing.
The USA is de-industrialized and depends on ... well... everyone... for its major industrial chemicals, commodities, and parts.
Infrastructure is crumbling.
The USA is dependent on energy imports... even from Russia!
The USA's so-called "economy" is primarily made of services and the FIRE (finance, insurance, and real estate) sector, which are speculative and non-productive.
A major financial meltdown or loss of confidence in the USD would see much USA "wealth" disappear in a flash, along with a a large chunk of "GDP" which is nothing but funny-money.

Meanwhile, Russia's real economy is growing.
The standard of living is rising.
Russia's debt is 20% of GDP (not 120%, like the USA's) and the government is running a surplus
Russia is energy and food-secure.
Infrastructure is developing.

Seems like we need to manage and measure our economy so that it is something more than bubbles, speculation, and bullshit numbers. If we want to REALLY be independent and secure, we need a base on which to stand. We don't have that, but we should.

"Comrade! That is how you speak to those decadent Capitalists and put them into their place! You have humbled the Arch-Capitalist Second! You will be rewarded the medal for Hero of the Soviet Union!" -- Soviet Propaganda Supervisor in 1960

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 3:47 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

AFA Russian economic performance .... well, let's see how Russia and the USA stack up in real terms.

The USA is in hock up to - and beyond- its ears, to... well, everyone.
The USA has major trade deficits with... well... everyone.
The USA standard of living has been falling for at least 30 years, and the middle class is disappearing.
The USA is de-industrialized and depends on ... well... everyone... for its major industrial chemicals, commodities, and parts.
Infrastructure is crumbling.
The USA is dependent on energy imports... even from Russia!
The USA's so-called "economy" is primarily made of services and the FIRE (finance, insurance, and real estate) sector, which are speculative and non-productive.
A major financial meltdown or loss of confidence in the USD would see much USA "wealth" disappear in a flash, along with a a large chunk of "GDP" which is nothing but funny-money.

Meanwhile, Russia's real economy is growing.
The standard of living is rising.
Russia's debt is 20% of GDP (not 120%, like the USA's) and the government is running a surplus
Russia is energy and food-secure.
Infrastructure is developing.

Seems like we need to manage and measure our economy so that it is something more than bubbles, speculation, and bullshit numbers. If we want to REALLY be independent and secure, we need a base on which to stand. We don't have that, but we should.

"Comrade! That is how you speak to those decadent Capitalists and put them into their place! You have humbled the Arch-Capitalist Second! You will be rewarded the medal for Hero of the Soviet Union!" -- Soviet Propaganda Supervisor in 1960

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

And yet, you're unable to refute reality.



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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:22 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Signy, imo SECOND doesn't believe his lies. He just does it for fun, like poking a stick into and ant's nest.

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:49 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Anyway, poor Zelensky!

The US has no interest in Ukraine's welfare. The country is merely a soccer ball in what the US sees as a soccer match between the US and Russia. And, as Zelensky knows, no matter which team wins, the soccer ball is going to take a real beating.

Anyway, I had run across a quote from Zelensky a while back, but retrieving it took quite some sleuthing, involving an alternate search engine, an Indian online news source ( https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/there -is-no-overconcentration-of-russian-forces -near-ukraines-border-says-volodymyr -zelensky/article38325354.ece), and a search on the quote, in order to dig it out of 'mainstream' news, in order to link a 'source' that won't be disputed.

But to be specific, I couldn't find that quote with google or duck at all, but did find it using the exact same search terms in an alternate search engine. Nor did that specific quote get me more than 1 hit in mass western media (the m$m).

Quote:

The risks have not just existed for a day, and they have not become bigger. The only thing that has become bigger is the hype around them. -Zelensky
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/risks-of-russian-invasion-not-big
ger-ukrainian-president-says/ar-AASWQTo



However, that search did come up with something I find amusing!

Quote:

'Americans are safer in Kiev than LA'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10436705/Americans-safer-Kyiv
-LA-source-close-Zelensky-slams-Biden-evacuating-Ukraine.html

Now, this is from an unnamed 'source' close to Zelensky, so I don't take it as anything but an amusing quote. But imo it is funny!

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 6:31 PM

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President Donald Trump offered Vladimir Putin U.S. help with Siberian wildfires and also threatened to withdraw federal emergency funding to California.

President Donald Trump seems more willing to help Russia fight wildfires than California, considering he just threatened to cut off federal aid to the state months after offering to aid Russia in battling blazes in parts of Siberia. On Sunday, Trump slammed California Governor Gavin Newsom for his handling of the wildfires and vaguely warned that he would end the federal funding. Newsom declared a statewide emergency last week in an effort to mobilize resources.

“Every year, as the fire’s rage & California burns, it is the same thing—and then he comes to the Federal Government for $$$ help. No more. Get your act together Governor. You don’t see close to the level of burn in other states,” Trump wrote on Twitter…

The president’s remarks about California’s governor come after he offered last summer to help Russia fight a similar battle against wildfires. According to the Kremlin, Trump made the offer to Russian President Vladimir Putin during a phone call in early August. At the time, the wildfires were so large that Greenpeace Russia said they were creating an “ecological catastrophe.” Putin reportedly expressed his “sincere gratitude” to Trump for the offer and said that if necessary he would take him up on it.

What Trump said about Russia

In August 2019, the Russian government published a statement about a phone call between Trump and Putin on July 31. That statement read as follows:

“Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation with US President Donald Trump this evening at the American side’s initiative. The US President offered help in putting out wildfires in Siberia. The President of Russia expressed sincere gratitude for the kind attention and the offer of help and assistance. Vladimir Putin said he will accept the offer if it becomes necessary. He also told his American colleague that a powerful group of aircraft had been formed in Siberia to fight the wildfires. According to the Emergencies Ministry, solutions have been found to problems with the refueling and deployment of airplanes and helicopters.

“The President of Russia regards the US President’s offer as a sign that it is possible that full-scale bilateral relations will be restored in the future. The presidents of Russia and the United States agreed to continue contacts in the form of telephone conversations as well as personal meetings.”

We asked the White House whether they could corroborate, even broadly, the Russian government’s characterization of the call. Unfortunately, we did not receive a response.

At the time, a White House spokesperson did not contradict that version of events and told news outlets that, during his conversation with Putin, Trump had “expressed concern over the vast wildfires afflicting Siberia.” This characterization, combined with the Russian description of an offer to help, means it’s perfectly plausible that Trump did make such an offer.

We found confirmation that he did in a video of an Aug. 1 press conference during which Trump said the following when reporters asked him about the phone call:

“Mostly we discussed the forest fires in Siberia, and other parts of Russia. And I said, look, we have the greatest equipment, if we could help you let us know. Large sections are burning, and so I said to President Putin, if we can help you, let me know.”

Much more Putin/Trump love at https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-russia-wildfires-california/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 6:38 PM

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Snopes is even less legitimate as fact checkers than the AP are.


Newsom is too busy ensuring that businesses have a genderless toy aisle to be worried about forest fires or shipping issues.

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After six decades, Russia will build its final Proton rocket this year

Proton had reliability issues and could not compete with SpaceX's Falcon 9.

International demand slackened, in part, due to a series of high-profile failures. At the end of 2010, one Proton rocket plunged into the ocean because too much propellant had been mistakenly loaded into its upper stage. In 2013, another vehicle performed a fiery dance seconds after liftoff because flight control sensors were hammered into the rocket’s compartment upside down. (The spectacular disaster is worth watching.)



These technical problems arose just as competitors, particularly SpaceX with its Falcon 9 rocket, undercut the Proton on cost and offered better reliability. This reduced costs for satellite operators through lower insurance premiums.

With the Angara-A5 rocket, Russia hopes to recapture some of this international satellite launch market. However, it depends on whether Russia can reduce production costs of the Angara-A5 rocket from $100 million per launch to $57 million by 2024, the country's stated goal.

Even this ambitious target for the fully expendable rocket probably won't help Russia too much in the competition for commercial launches, however. SpaceX has already demonstrated that it can re-fly its Falcon 9 booster for less than $30 million.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/01/after-six-decades-russia-will-
build-its-final-proton-rocket-this-year
/

FURTHER READING
Russia’s replacement for the Proton rocket costs way too much

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/06/russian-official-country-lacks
-a-clear-and-understandable-space-strategy
/

Ivan Moiseev, the head of the Russian Space Policy Institute, said these projects are best thought of as "paper rockets," lacking the funding to become real hardware.

“In fact, we do not have a clear and understandable strategy for space travel, and huge problems have accumulated inside Russia’s space industry," he said in an interview. "At this time, Roscosmos is coming up with all kinds of new rocket projects on paper but only those which will remain on paper and will never come to fruition."

These announcements of futuristic rocket projects likely play well domestically, feeding into Russia's image as a superpower. But the real future of Russia's rocket program appears less than bright.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, January 25, 2022 11:37 PM

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Nothing to worry about then.

Cool.

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Wednesday, January 26, 2022 11:10 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Signy, imo SECOND doesn't believe his lies. He just does it for fun, like poking a stick into and ant's nest.



SECOND doesn't believe the bull that he routinely shits against the fff.net wall. I mean, after all, look how quickly he abandons a post after it's disproved, only to shit something else equally pointless - and often contradictory!- right afterwards. If he REALLY believed what he was posting, he would stand and defend it.

Clearly, he doesn't believe what he's posting. It's just ammunition for his war against .... Republicans? ... democracy? .... Americans? (Just look how much more he loves illegals than citizens!).... Trump? .... Anyway, whatever "war" he thinks he's fighting.

No, he believes that he has the RIGHT to hate and to lie, to "war" against fellow Americans. He doesn't realize what an empty twisted fuck he is.

I've known people like him IRL. Their pathology runs deep. It's disturbing to behold.

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Wednesday, January 26, 2022 12:29 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I appreciate Second.

I rather enjoy getting to constantly destroy someone intellectually, particularly somebody who so incorrectly fancies himself an intellectual.


Devoid of any morals or principles, his goalposts are mired in quicksand for easy moving back and forth. A handy trick to be sure, if you're looking to sow discord from the shadows. But not one that serves you very well when you play the same character day in and day out in front of the same small group of people who have already picked up on all of this many, many years ago.

It's just sad now.



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Wednesday, January 26, 2022 1:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
After six decades, Russia will build its final Proton rocket this year

Proton had reliability issues and could not compete with SpaceX's Falcon 9.

International demand slackened, in part, due to a series of high-profile failures. At the end of 2010, one Proton rocket plunged into the ocean because too much propellant had been mistakenly loaded into its upper stage. In 2013, another vehicle performed a fiery dance seconds after liftoff because flight control sensors were hammered into the rocket’s compartment upside down. (The spectacular disaster is worth watching.)



These technical problems arose just as competitors, particularly SpaceX with its Falcon 9 rocket, undercut the Proton on cost and offered better reliability. This reduced costs for satellite operators through lower insurance premiums.

With the Angara-A5 rocket, Russia hopes to recapture some of this international satellite launch market. However, it depends on whether Russia can reduce production costs of the Angara-A5 rocket from $100 million per launch to $57 million by 2024, the country's stated goal.

Even this ambitious target for the fully expendable rocket probably won't help Russia too much in the competition for commercial launches, however. SpaceX has already demonstrated that it can re-fly its Falcon 9 booster for less than $30 million.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/01/after-six-decades-russia-will-
build-its-final-proton-rocket-this-year
/

FURTHER READING
Russia’s replacement for the Proton rocket costs way too much

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/06/russian-official-country-lacks
-a-clear-and-understandable-space-strategy
/

Ivan Moiseev, the head of the Russian Space Policy Institute, said these projects are best thought of as "paper rockets," lacking the funding to become real hardware.

“In fact, we do not have a clear and understandable strategy for space travel, and huge problems have accumulated inside Russia’s space industry," he said in an interview. "At this time, Roscosmos is coming up with all kinds of new rocket projects on paper but only those which will remain on paper and will never come to fruition."

These announcements of futuristic rocket projects likely play well domestically, feeding into Russia's image as a superpower. But the real future of Russia's rocket program appears less than bright.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two





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Wednesday, January 26, 2022 1:57 PM

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Norway's PM says Russia build-up is `a sign of weakness'

UNITED NATIONS (AP) — Norway’s prime minister, whose country borders Russia and is a founding member of NATO, said Wednesday he believes it’s “a sign of weakness” that President Vladimir Putin has to express Moscow’s political views by an “extraordinary” military buildup.

Jonas Gahr Støre said in an interview with The Associated Press that he calls it a sign of weakness because it’s at the negotiating table where issues that matter to people should be discussed, not by “that kind of military demonstration,” and by pursuing Russia’s interests where “the weapons will speak.”

He said he thinks Putin’s demand now for guarantees — including that NATO will never admit neighboring Ukraine and other ex-Soviet nations as members — is a result of the loss of post-Cold War communications channels and dialogue that led to differences being settled through negotiations following after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula in 2014.

“So there have been more kind of animosity and destructive relations among countries that need to engage,” Støre said.



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Wednesday, January 26, 2022 2:03 PM

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Good idea, Jonas.

Tell the dude he's got a small dick.

I hope it works out well for Norway.

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Kremlin TV Worries Tucker Carlson’s Pro-Putin Bias Has Gone Too Far

Top Russian state propagandists are concerned that no one will take the Fox News host seriously any more.

In 2022, he is unabashedly pushing the talking points favored by the Kremlin and no longer making excuses. Carlson is going so far to support the Russian propaganda narrative that prominent personalities on the Kremlin-funded state television are concerned about his future in the United States. Last Sunday, one of Russia’s most-watched television networks Channel One played the clip from Carlson’s show, where he argued that Russia’s anger at NATO’s alleged involvement in Ukraine was well-justified. Reporter Ivan Blagoy then noted the Fox News host “is predictably being accused of playing along with Moscow.”

Broadcasting the same translated clip of Carlson last week on Russia’s second most-watched TV network, Rossiya-1, host of 60 Minutes Evgeny Popov fawned over Carlson by describing him as one of the “voices of truth and reason” and complained that the host of the most-watched show in all of cable news with millions of viewers is being “silenced and marginalized.” In 2020, Popov demonstrated his affinity for Carlson by introducing him as “practically our co-host.”

On Thursday, Carlson reiterated the same slight and described Ukraine—the largest state entirely within Europe and the second largest on the continent after Russia—as “a pretty small country.” He added: “Vladimir Putin is our most dangerous enemy, they scream. We can’t let him hurt Ukraine. So it turns out Russiagate was actually more effective even than we’d realize. The Steele dossier has been debunked, but in Washington, the theme remains in force: Russia, Russia, Russia. Russia is bad. What is this about, exactly? Well, obviously it’s the usual collection of children falling for the usual collection of lies, but why this specific lie?” He later added: “You still have to wonder, invasion or not, why is any of this a profound concern of ours? Why would you even consider risking American lives or sending billions of dollars to stop it?”

Predictably, Carlson’s portrayal of Ukraine as a small, corrupt, insignificant nation that is of no consequence to the U.S. is in perfect alignment with the way Russia’s beleaguered neighbor is being smeared on Kremlin-funded state television, in order to humiliate the fledgling democracy and dissuade it from resisting Russian aggression.

More at https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker-carlsons-pro-putin-bias-has-gone-
too-far-kremlin-tv-says


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Wednesday, January 26, 2022 4:38 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Signy, imo SECOND doesn't believe his lies. He just does it for fun, like poking a stick into and ant's nest.



SECOND doesn't believe the bull that he routinely shits against the fff.net wall. I mean, after all, look how quickly he abandons a post after it's disproved, only to shit something else equally pointless - and often contradictory!- right afterwards. If he REALLY believed what he was posting, he would stand and defend it.

Clearly, he doesn't believe what he's posting. It's just ammunition for his war against .... Republicans? ... democracy? .... Americans? (Just look how much more he loves illegals than citizens!).... Trump? .... Anyway, whatever "war" he thinks he's fighting.

No, he believes that he has the RIGHT to hate and to lie, to "war" against fellow Americans. He doesn't realize what an empty twisted fuck he is.

I've known people like him IRL. Their pathology runs deep. It's disturbing to behold.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake




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Canada pledges non-lethal support for Ukraine, extends training mission

OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canada on Wednesday said it would send non-lethal equipment to Ukraine, and help the Eastern European country gather intelligence and counter cyber attacks as Russia builds up its military presence on its borders.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/canada-pledges-non-lethal-support
-for-ukraine-extends-training-mission/ar-AATb6EH?ocid=msedgntp






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Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Signy, imo SECOND doesn't believe his lies. He just does it for fun, like poking a stick into and ant's nest.



SECOND doesn't believe the bull that he routinely shits against the fff.net wall. I mean, after all, look how quickly he abandons a post after it's disproved, only to shit something else equally pointless - and often contradictory!- right afterwards. If he REALLY believed what he was posting, he would stand and defend it.

Clearly, he doesn't believe what he's posting. It's just ammunition for his war against .... Republicans? ... democracy? .... Americans? (Just look how much more he loves illegals than citizens!).... Trump? .... Anyway, whatever "war" he thinks he's fighting.

No, he believes that he has the RIGHT to hate and to lie, to "war" against fellow Americans. He doesn't realize what an empty twisted fuck he is.

I've known people like him IRL. Their pathology runs deep. It's disturbing to behold.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake




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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


This morning I was reading about Adolf Eichmann, A Thoughtless Man. https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2022/01/a-thoughtless-man.html

That one word, thoughtless, gets to the center of the problem with people like Putin, Trump, and even nobodies like Signym and 1kiki. Some crucial element is missing from their personalities. What they are missing allows them to deny Putin closed down 22 Russian Republics without a referendum by the citizens of those Republics and to deny Putin will close down Ukraine in the same fashion if his Army prevails.

Putin, Trump, and nobodies like Signym and 1kiki have claimed Putin did not interfere with the 2016 election and Trump did not obstruct justice when the FBI investigated the Russian interference which Putin says never happened. But truthfully it did happen.

Putin, Trump, Signym and 1kiki don't believe the truth. Adolf Eichmann showed them how to avoid truth. Eichmann died with the words: "I'm taking it calmly with peace in my heart which is to me proof that I was correct." -- Unrepentant Eichmann hanged
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1962/06/01/Unrepentant-Eichmann-hanged/36
01527648542
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Canada pledges non-lethal support for Ukraine, extends training mission



Somebody let Trudeau know that there are sticks and rocks in the Ukraine already.


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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Signy, imo SECOND doesn't believe his lies. He just does it for fun, like poking a stick into and ant's nest.



SECOND doesn't believe the bull that he routinely shits against the fff.net wall. I mean, after all, look how quickly he abandons a post after it's disproved, only to shit something else equally pointless - and often contradictory!- right afterwards. If he REALLY believed what he was posting, he would stand and defend it.

Clearly, he doesn't believe what he's posting. It's just ammunition for his war against .... Republicans? ... democracy? .... Americans? (Just look how much more he loves illegals than citizens!).... Trump? .... Anyway, whatever "war" he thinks he's fighting.

No, he believes that he has the RIGHT to hate and to lie, to "war" against fellow Americans. He doesn't realize what an empty twisted fuck he is.

I've known people like him IRL. Their pathology runs deep. It's disturbing to behold.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake




-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


This morning I was reading about Adolf Eichmann, A Thoughtless Man. https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2022/01/a-thoughtless-man.html

That one word, thoughtless, gets to the center of the problem with people like Putin, Trump, and even nobodies like Signym and 1kiki. Some crucial element is missing from their personalities. What they are missing allows them to deny Putin closed down 22 Russian Republics without a referendum by the citizens of those Republics and to deny Putin will close down Ukraine in the same fashion if his Army prevails.

Putin, Trump, and nobodies like Signym and 1kiki have claimed Putin did not interfere with the 2016 election and Trump did not obstruct justice when the FBI investigated the Russian interference which Putin says never happened. But truthfully it did happen.

Putin, Trump, Signym and 1kiki don't believe the truth. Adolf Eichmann showed them how to avoid truth. Eichmann died with the words: "I'm taking it calmly with peace in my heart which is to me proof that I was correct." -- Unrepentant Eichmann hanged
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1962/06/01/Unrepentant-Eichmann-hanged/36
01527648542
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two





Correct correct and correct SECOND.

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Dirty Russian money flowing through London is destabilizing Ukraine, senior Tory MP warns

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/dirty-russian-money-flowing-throu
gh-london-is-destabilizing-ukraine-senior-tory-mp-warns/ar-AATchnn?ocid=msedgntp




All Russian money is dirty.

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Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:19 AM

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Turkey warns Russian invasion of Ukraine would 'not be a wise act'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/turkey-warns-russian-invasion-of-
ukraine-would-not-be-a-wise-act/ar-AATcxmT?ocid=msedgntp




I don't trust Erdogan at all

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Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:25 AM

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West threatens to axe Russia pipeline over Ukraine

Germany and the US have warned they could target a key Russian gas pipeline if the country invades Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/west-threatens-to-axe-russia-pipe
line-over-ukraine/ar-AATcw0J?ocid=msedgntp




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Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:53 AM

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Hey Ted.

I heard that China is backing Russia.


Good news for you. We can go to war with not just one, but two world superpowers.



It must feel like a thousand Christmas mornings rubbing up against your Neo-Con balls, huh?

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Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Signy, imo SECOND doesn't believe his lies. He just does it for fun, like poking a stick into and ant's nest.



SECOND doesn't believe the bull that he routinely shits against the fff.net wall. I mean, after all, look how quickly he abandons a post after it's disproved, only to shit something else equally pointless - and often contradictory!- right afterwards. If he REALLY believed what he was posting, he would stand and defend it.

Clearly, he doesn't believe what he's posting. It's just ammunition for his war against .... Republicans? ... democracy? .... Americans? (Just look how much more he loves illegals than citizens!).... Trump? .... Anyway, whatever "war" he thinks he's fighting.

No, he believes that he has the RIGHT to hate and to lie, to "war" against fellow Americans. He doesn't realize what an empty twisted fuck he is.

I've known people like him IRL. Their pathology runs deep. It's disturbing to behold.





It is the same with comrades kiki and signym

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Correct correct and correct SECOND.

T



I was watching Spider-Man: No Way Home. There is a villain called Doc Ock who is crazy, but his cure is to fix the electronic interface with his octopus arms to return him to sanity. I've been of the opinion that people like Putin and Trump are crazy, but fixable like Doc Ock. But what if normality for them was never sanity? See Adolf Eichmann, who could function well in any bureaucratic environment. To the very end, Eichmann believed he was right. What do you do with people like that, or Trump and Putin, other than keep them away from power? Unlike for Doc Ock, I don't think there will ever be a cure for people like Putin, Trump or Eichmann. Eichmann had 17 years of quiet time after the fall of Third Reich to contemplate what was wrong, but his brain couldn't understand.

https://www.google.com/search?q=doc+ock

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, January 27, 2022 11:34 AM

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Correct correct and correct SECOND.

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I was watching Spider-Man: No Way Home. There is a villain called Doc Ock who is crazy, but his cure is to fix the electronic interface with his octopus arms to return him to sanity. I've been of the opinion that people like Putin and Trump are crazy, but fixable like Doc Ock. But what if normality for them was never sanity? See Adolf Eichmann, who could function well in any bureaucratic environment. To the very end, Eichmann believed he was right. What do you do with people like that, or Trump and Putin, other than keep them away from power? Unlike for Doc Ock, I don't think there will ever be a cure for people like Putin, Trump or Eichmann. Eichmann had 17 years of quiet time after the fall of Third Reich to contemplate what was wrong, but his brain couldn't understand.

https://www.google.com/search?q=doc+ock

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




Second wants to give Trump a lobotomy before he feeds him to the pigs.



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