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Saturday, November 6, 2021 4:13 PM

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It is very interesting that Afghanistan, and our horrible and incompetent withdrawal, losing soldiers and leaving $Billions of military equipment, was when people really began to realize how horrible this Socialism/Communism direction for America has become. We have never been thought of so poorly as we are right now, including the fact that the leaders of foreign countries, all of whom are at the top of their game, are laughing at Biden as he makes the rounds in Europe. So low and so bad for America. There has never been a time like it!

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No. It's his web page.




He seems to have a new social media platform now, not just a blog

Paul Barrett Trump's Truth Social platform could make millions — or go bust
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-truth-social-platform-co
uld-make-millions-or-go-ncna1282853



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Sunday, November 7, 2021 11:28 AM

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This week, the Guardian reported that what are assessed to be leaked Kremlin documents describe Donald Trump as an “impulsive, mentally unstable and unbalanced individual”. Vladimir Putin, the documents say, therefore decided to assist Trump’s rise to power in 2016 as a way to weaken America.

Five years on, as America digests a string of bombshell revelations about the last days of Trump’s presidency pulled from a string of new books, Russia’s judgment seems born out.

Taken together, these Trump books show just how close the US came to disaster amid stark warnings from military leaders and almost unprecedented fears of an attempted coup. They also revealed new and shocking claims about Trump and his inner circle, including praise for Hitler and an apparent desire to have protesters shot.

Trump failed to cope with the coronavirus pandemic, wanted to send infected Americans to Guantánamo Bay and seemed to hope Covid would take out his national security adviser.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/jul/17/donald-trump-books-leonn
ig-rucker-bender-wolff


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, November 7, 2021 3:08 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Reading the m$m over the last several months, one would think that Donald J Trump exists no more, and neither do his followers.

That's a serious mistake that will bite tptb in the ass a very short way down the road. Trump's followers which are still a substantial chunk of the US will feel even more marginalized and justified in extreme behavior.

And yeah, some of the stuff they espouse it batshit crazy.

But there are real and serious problems that still exist that Trump was trying to address, like what are essentially open borders, and the lack of a capable US manufacturing base ... 'America first'.

And there's lack of 'America first' (or, at all) policy at the upper levels of the bureaucracy state. The argument was recently made to me that the bureaucratic state now doesn't exist to serve the US, but instead that it's filled with competing factions involved in nothing more than palace intrigue for personal and agenda-driven gain. For example, there's the upper levels of the Pentagon, with leaders ordering more and new weapon$ to cozy up to the industry, as their retirement plan when they exit the military proper. And it's a convincing scenario.

And then there are batshit-crazy goals on the 'woke' 'democratic' side like 'reparations' in the works that are just as insane as anything Q believers espouse.

But that's not to mention the Israeli-run US-foreign-policy-state-faction (with Blinken as its head but certainly with help from US-Israel dual citizens like Feinstein, Schumer et al, and that Trump had incompetently set himself against) that's hell-bent on promoting Israel's benefit and going out of its way to provoke Russia and China and Iran. Antagonize Russia with Ukraine AND China with Singapore AND Iran at the same time??!! SURE! What could POSSIBLY go wrong with THAT?

And as a off-topic "From the Desk of Donald J Trump" aside , while the 'news' is busy ignoring anything to do with Trump and his followers, it's also busy ignoring the levers that are being worked to help the US fail in both the short and long term, by factions with agendas that are NOT focused on the well being of the US and its people.

Or, to re-ask Signy's often-repeated question - what is in America's interests?

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Sunday, November 7, 2021 5:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yup.

Trump will be President again. Just one more year before Biden*'s penis is chopped off and 2 years of a lame duck Presidency before Trump's back in.



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Sunday, November 7, 2021 5:37 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Or, to re-ask Signy's often-repeated question - what is in America's interests?

Easy to answer, but note that the GOP is opposed to every one of these:
Raise Incomes and Restore Economic Security for the Middle Class
Raising Workers’ Wages ...3
Protecting Workers’ Fundamental Rights...4
Supporting Working Families 4
Helping More Workers Share in Near-Record Corporate Profits ...5
Expanding Access to Affordable Housing and Homeownership ...5
Protecting and Expanding Social Security .5
Ensuring a Secure and Dignified Retirement ..6
Revitalizing Our Nation’s Postal Service .....6
Create Good-Paying Jobs 7
Building 21st Century Infrastructure.............. 7
Fostering a Manufacturing Renaissance ...... 7
Creating Good-Paying Clean Energy Jobs .8
Pursuing Our Innovation Agenda: Science, Research, Education, and Technology ...........8
Supporting America’s Small Businesses ......9
Creating Jobs for America’s Young People .....9
Fight for Economic Fairness and Against Inequality ... 9
Reining in Wall Street and Fixing our Financial System ..10
Promoting Competition by Stopping Corporate Concentration .. 11
Making the Wealthy Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes .. 11
Promoting Trade That is Fair and Benefits American Workers .... 12
Bring Americans Together and Remove Barriers to Opportunities 13
Ending Systemic Racism 13
Closing the Racial Wealth Gap . 13
Reforming our Criminal Justice System .... 13
Fixing our Broken Immigration System ..... 15
Guaranteeing Civil Rights........ . .......16
Guaranteeing Women’s Rights ..17
Guaranteeing Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Rights .....17
Guaranteeing Rights for People with Disabilities .....17
Respecting Faith and Service ....17
Investing in Rural America .... 18
Ending Poverty and Investing in Communities Left Behind .......... 18
Building Strong Cities and Metro Areas .... 19
Promoting Arts and Culture . 19
Honoring Indigenous Tribal Nations ........... 19
Fighting for the People of Puerto Rico ...... 21
Honoring the People of the Territories ...... 21
Protect Voting Rights, Fix Our Campaign
Finance System, and Restore Our Democracy .. 22
Protecting Voting Rights ...... 22
Fixing Our Broken Campaign Finance System . 22
Appointing Judges 23
Securing Statehood for Washington, D.C 23
Strengthening Management of Federal Government. 23
Combat Climate Change, Build a Clean Energy
Economy, and Secure Environmental Justice ... 24
Building a Clean Energy Economy ............. 24
Securing Environmental and Climate Justice .... 26
Protecting Our Public Lands and Waters 26
Provide Quality and Affordable Education .27
Making Debt-Free College a Reality ...........27
Providing Relief from Crushing Student Debt .. 28
Supporting Historically Black Colleges and
Universities and Minority-Serving Institutions .. 28
Cracking Down on Predatory For-Profit Schools ... 28
Guaranteeing Universal Preschool and Good Schools for Every Child ...... 29
Ensure the Health and Safety of All Americans 30
Securing Universal Health Care .... 31
Supporting Community Health Centers .... 31
Reducing Prescription Drug Costs ............. 32
Enabling Cutting-Edge Medical Research ..... 32
Combating Drug and Alcohol Addiction .. 32
Treating Mental Health .... 33
Supporting Those Living with Autism and their Families .............. 33
Securing Reproductive Health, Rights, and Justice .... 33
Ensuring Long-Term Care, Services, and Supports 34
Protecting and Promoting Public Health . 34
Ending Violence Against Women ............... 34
Preventing Gun Violence ...... 35

A few more at https://ballotpedia.org/The_Democratic_Party_Platform,_2020

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, November 7, 2021 7:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Looks like a one-sided Leftist wishlist with a lot of made up non-issues for the most part there.

Try again.

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Sunday, November 7, 2021 8:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Looks like a one-sided Leftist wishlist with a lot of made up non-issues for the most part there.

Try again.

There is the Republican platform, but there is nothing on their list of things to do. Don't believe me? Take a look:
https://ballotpedia.org/The_Republican_Party_Platform,_2020

Well, maybe Republican Senators have proposed something to do? Nope. They've got nothing, same as their party platform:
https://www.congress.gov

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, November 7, 2021 10:17 PM

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Half of your list is things that could never be done and things that were already done a long time ago.

The rest of it is racist and/or sexist.

Dumb shit.

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Monday, November 8, 2021 5:45 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Or, to re-ask Signy's often-repeated question - what is in America's interests?

Easy to answer, but note that the GOP is opposed to every one of these:
Raise Incomes and Restore Economic Security for the Middle Class
Raising Workers’ Wages ...3
Protecting Workers’ Fundamental Rights...4
Supporting Working Families 4
Helping More Workers Share in Near-Record Corporate Profits ...5
Expanding Access to Affordable Housing and Homeownership ...5
Protecting and Expanding Social Security .5
Ensuring a Secure and Dignified Retirement ..6
Revitalizing Our Nation’s Postal Service .....6
Create Good-Paying Jobs 7
Building 21st Century Infrastructure.............. 7
Fostering a Manufacturing Renaissance ...... 7
Creating Good-Paying Clean Energy Jobs .8
Pursuing Our Innovation Agenda: Science, Research, Education, and Technology ...........8
Supporting America’s Small Businesses ......9
Creating Jobs for America’s Young People .....9
Fight for Economic Fairness and Against Inequality ... 9
Reining in Wall Street and Fixing our Financial System ..10
Promoting Competition by Stopping Corporate Concentration .. 11
Making the Wealthy Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes .. 11
Promoting Trade That is Fair and Benefits American Workers .... 12
Bring Americans Together and Remove Barriers to Opportunities 13
Ending Systemic Racism 13
Closing the Racial Wealth Gap . 13
Reforming our Criminal Justice System .... 13
Fixing our Broken Immigration System ..... 15
Guaranteeing Civil Rights........ . .......16
Guaranteeing Women’s Rights ..17
Guaranteeing Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Rights .....17
Guaranteeing Rights for People with Disabilities .....17
Respecting Faith and Service ....17
Investing in Rural America .... 18
Ending Poverty and Investing in Communities Left Behind .......... 18
Building Strong Cities and Metro Areas .... 19
Promoting Arts and Culture . 19
Honoring Indigenous Tribal Nations ........... 19
Fighting for the People of Puerto Rico ...... 21
Honoring the People of the Territories ...... 21
Protect Voting Rights, Fix Our Campaign
Finance System, and Restore Our Democracy .. 22
Protecting Voting Rights ...... 22
Fixing Our Broken Campaign Finance System . 22
Appointing Judges 23
Securing Statehood for Washington, D.C 23
Strengthening Management of Federal Government. 23
Combat Climate Change, Build a Clean Energy
Economy, and Secure Environmental Justice ... 24
Building a Clean Energy Economy ............. 24
Securing Environmental and Climate Justice .... 26
Protecting Our Public Lands and Waters 26
Provide Quality and Affordable Education .27
Making Debt-Free College a Reality ...........27
Providing Relief from Crushing Student Debt .. 28
Supporting Historically Black Colleges and
Universities and Minority-Serving Institutions .. 28
Cracking Down on Predatory For-Profit Schools ... 28
Guaranteeing Universal Preschool and Good Schools for Every Child ...... 29
Ensure the Health and Safety of All Americans 30
Securing Universal Health Care .... 31
Supporting Community Health Centers .... 31
Reducing Prescription Drug Costs ............. 32
Enabling Cutting-Edge Medical Research ..... 32
Combating Drug and Alcohol Addiction .. 32
Treating Mental Health .... 33
Supporting Those Living with Autism and their Families .............. 33
Securing Reproductive Health, Rights, and Justice .... 33
Ensuring Long-Term Care, Services, and Supports 34
Protecting and Promoting Public Health . 34
Ending Violence Against Women ............... 34
Preventing Gun Violence ...... 35

A few more at https://ballotpedia.org/The_Democratic_Party_Platform,_2020

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Having read hundreds of resumes and thousands of donation requests in my day, I recognize weasel-words and empty promises when they're in front of me. Can anyone ever tell if these promises to "help" and "esnure" and "promote" were ever fulfilled??

Not the way THEY'Re written, they can't!

Here are a few specifics, with measurable outcomes

End corporate personhood
Make USPS a banking center
Break up monopolies
Tax trades
Substantially increase mortgage rates and down payments for second- and thrid-time homebuyers, and for those who own multiple units
Eliminate half of our foreign military bases and reduce our foreign-based troops by 50% over the next 5 years
Stop borrowing from The Fed, print USA currency instead
Re-institute Glass Steagall
Eliminate the "cap" on Social Security tax payments
Negotiate with pharma for best prices for Medicare
Directly invest in infrastructural repair and upgrade, including power grid stability and telecom security
Tariff ALL imports
Directly invest in basic manufacturing by making government a 51% share owner in select basic manufacturing facilities
Re-create the CCC to provide jobs to young people, and restore our nation's forests, wetlands, farms, and waterways
Increase required bank "reserve" to 20%
Medicare for all
Require all FCC-licensed outlets to provide free time to candidates at the state and Federal level
Dismantle the data center in Utah
Require social media and all platforms claiming 203 protections to provide free speech, limiting content to be consistent with local, state and Federal laws


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Tuesday, November 9, 2021 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Can anyone ever tell if these promises to "help" and "esnure" and "promote" were ever fulfilled??

Not the way THEY'Re written, they can't!

Here are a few specifics, with measurable outcomes

End corporate personhood
. . .
Increase required bank "reserve" to 20%
. . .
Medicare for all

End corporate personhood? That is as unlikely as increasing the average lifespan to 120 years, which is the Alliance lifespan in Firefly. https://firefly.fandom.com/wiki/History_of_the_Verse#The_Age_of_the_Te
rraformers


Why am I so pessimistic about "Ending corporate personhood"? Well, because the 14th Amendment would have to revised, the personnel on the Supreme Court would have to be changed, dozens of Supreme Court rulings going back to 1886 would have to be cancelled, and all this done while the Republican Party fights to the death against any change.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood#In_the_United_State
s


The History of Corporate Personhood
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/history-corpor
ate-personhood


Signym, good thing you started with "Ending corporate personhood" because with that wish I don't have to do any more work on reading your list but I did look at "Increase required bank "reserve" to 20%". Since it has never been higher than 10%, you are just being absurd.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bank-reserve.asp

Reserve Maintenance Manual
https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/files/reserve-maintenanc
e-manual.pdf


As for "Medicare for all"? The Democratic Party will have to kill Republican Senators until there are fewer than approximately 30 to get that passed into law. Since thousands die each month because they have no health insurance due to obstinate Republican Senators, to save those lives I would vote for killing Republican Senators, starting with Rand Paul, then Ted Cruz, but the Democratic Party is not willing. 5 Things the 2020 Democrats Aren’t Telling You About Medicare for All
https://www.politico.com/news/agenda/2019/11/25/medicare-for-all-sande
rs-warren-072161


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, November 9, 2021 7:10 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


When corporations can be put to death for criminal behavior, then they can be considered "people". But until they face the same penalties, pay the same taxes, follow the same laws as actual living people, they shouldn't be considered people.

Corporate personhood is an example of a legal interpretation determined by MONEY.

And since Dems would never (God forbid) cross their corporate donors, they are reduced to weasel words, hot air, and empty promises.

If they ever decide to be better than Repubs and do something real- even if difficult, people will swing to them in droves. Until then, they're just corporate shills.

Yanno, like you!





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Tuesday, November 9, 2021 8:40 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Second advocating for the murder of politicians he doesn't agree with.

That's in the archive now.



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Tuesday, November 9, 2021 9:02 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


If the Leftist Media and people like Second don't start behaving like normal people, Ted's going to be awfully disappointed when Trump is our President again in 2024.



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Tuesday, November 9, 2021 9:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Second advocating for the murder of politicians he doesn't agree with.

That's in the archive now.

You should report this to the Secret Service. https://www.secretservice.gov/contact/field-offices

Senators Rand Paul and Ted Cruz might die tomorrow if you don't call the Secret Service tonight. Do it now! If you wait, you might regret not acting sooner. Be sure to tell them you are a concerned Trumptard because the law enforcers will know you are a serious person, not some random nut with an overactive imagination and too much free time because you are unemployable due to psychiatric problems. See the movie Joker for what kind of problems 6ix might have.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, November 9, 2021 9:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
When corporations can be put to death for criminal behavior, then they can be considered "people". But until they face the same penalties, pay the same taxes, follow the same laws as actual living people, they shouldn't be considered people.

Corporate personhood is an example of a legal interpretation determined by MONEY.

And since Dems would never (God forbid) cross their corporate donors, they are reduced to weasel words, hot air, and empty promises.

If they ever decide to be better than Repubs and do something real- even if difficult, people will swing to them in droves. Until then, they're just corporate shills.

Yanno, like you!

We have the likes of former U.S. Senator Roscoe Conkling to thank for the extension of Equal Protection to corporations. Conkling helped draft the 14th Amendment. He then left the Senate to become a lawyer. His Gilded Age law practice was going so swimmingly that Conkling turned down a seat on the Supreme Court not once, but twice.

Conkling argued to the Supreme Court in San Mateo County v. Southern Pacific Rail Road that the 14th Amendment is not limited to natural persons. In 1882, he produced a journal that seemed to show that the Joint Congressional Committee that drafted the amendment vacillated between using “citizen” and “person” and the drafters chose person specifically to cover corporations. According to historian Howard Jay Graham, “[t]his part of Conkling’s argument was a deliberate, brazen forgery.”

As Thom Hartmann notes the Supreme Court embraced Conkling’s reading of the 14th Amendment in a headnote in 1886 in Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Rail Road

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/history-corpor
ate-personhood


Signym, Corporations have been people for so long that there is no way to undo it, unless the Democrats can revise the 14th Amendment to exclude Corporations, but there won't be even one Republican Senator who will vote for the revision or even one Republican controlled state that will ratify such a change.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, November 10, 2021 12:50 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Second advocating for the murder of politicians he doesn't agree with.

That's in the archive now.

You should report this to the Secret Service. https://www.secretservice.gov/contact/field-offices

Senators Rand Paul and Ted Cruz might die tomorrow if you don't call the Secret Service tonight. Do it now! If you wait, you might regret not acting sooner. Be sure to tell them you are a concerned Trumptard because the law enforcers will know you are a serious person, not some random nut with an overactive imagination and too much free time because you are unemployable due to psychiatric problems. See the movie Joker for what kind of problems 6ix might have.



You keep saying that, but the only one still here that keeps saying the most ridiculous and unhinged things is you buddy.

Got the archive to prove it, and that doesn't even include all of your posts under the reverfan alias.



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Wednesday, November 10, 2021 3:58 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND, if they can modify the Constitution to prohibit the sale of alcohol, and modify AGAIN to undo the prohibition, don't you think it can be modified for a more important purpose?

Spend a year with the right kind of advert ... yanno, like the RUSSIA!RUSSIA!collusion!quidproquo!incitement! kind... and feeling will sweep the nation so thoroughly it will be a tide nothing can resist.

But it won't happen, because Dems prefer to wring their hands and bloviate and virtue signal and collect their donations because they all go along to get along.

And you, SECOND, are a real life, open example of Democrats and a great example why they will NEVER do anything real for the American people. People could use you as an object lesson of Dem-duplicitous behavior, pretending to be "for the people" but really just lining your pockets.

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Wednesday, November 10, 2021 7:23 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, if they can modify the Constitution to prohibit the sale of alcohol, and modify AGAIN to undo the prohibition, don't you think it can be modified for a more important purpose?

Spend a year with the right kind of advert ... yanno, like the RUSSIA!RUSSIA!collusion!quidproquo!incitement! kind... and feeling will sweep the nation so thoroughly it will be a tide nothing can resist.

But it won't happen, because Dems prefer to wring their hands and bloviate and virtue signal and collect their donations because they all go along to get along.

And you, SECOND, are a real life, open example of Democrats and a great example why they will NEVER do anything real for the American people. People could use you as an object lesson of Dem-duplicitous behavior, pretending to be "for the people" but really just lining your pockets.

You proved a point -- words are never enough against obstinacy in the U.S. Senate. Obviously you couldn't be bothered to read the words about Senator Roscoe Conkling and the 14th Amendment (Corporations are people, too) and then Roscoe got rich from the 14th.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/history-corpor
ate-personhood


The most important question of 19th Century America couldn't be solved with words because the slave-owners in Senate were obstinate. Those slave-owners were absolutely convinced that they were morally, mentally, culturally superior. You don't need to be reminded how that slavery political question got solved, do you? but it wasn't with words.

Now America is facing several important political questions that cannot be solved with words because there are obstinate Republican Congressmen who will not be moved by words because the Republicans are absolutely certain about their superiority -- morally, mentally, culturally. I keep wondering if the Democratic Congressmen realize they have to stop talking and, instead, remove Republican Congressmen? Senators got booted out of the Senate when their states went to war with America in the 1860s. It was NOT their slave-owning voters who voted those slave-owning Senators out of office; it was other Senators. But then the 21st Century Democrats can't even go beyond words when witnesses show contempt of Congress and refuse to testify about Trump. What are Congress and AG Garland going to do about it? Maybe nothing but endless words:
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/580643-what-does-jeffrey-clark-h
ave-to-hide-and-what-are-congress-and-ag-garland




The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, November 10, 2021 7:58 AM

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Conservative pundit Ann Coulter has accused former President Donald Trump of "betraying" his base and being "abjectly stupid" in his inability to deliver on his promise to build a border wall.

Although Coulter wrote the bestseller In Trump We Trust, E Pluribus Awesome! ahead of the 2016 presidential campaign, the right-wing firebrand has become ever more critical of the former president.

In an interview on Andrew Sullivan's Dishcast on November 5, Coulter said she knew what Trump's character was like before he was elected but supported him anyway because of his immigration policy and pledge to build the wall on the southern U.S. border.

"I was well familiar with what a narcissistic, ridiculous, tacky, vulgar, arriviste this guy was," she told Sullivan. "That I knew about. The one thing I underestimated, in fact, did not see at all is, I had no idea how abjectly stupid the man is."

She accused Trump of "not keeping his promises" and "directly betraying his base," which consisted of people who were "Americans waiting their whole lives for someone to care about them."

She said that during 2016, when promoting In Trump We Trust, journalists would tell her: "'Oh he's not really going to build the wall,'" she said. "I'd laugh and say, 'No the one thing he's got to do is build the wall.'

"My theory was if he doesn't build the wall, he loses reelection. He didn't build the wall, he lost reelection," she said. "I just couldn't imagine anyone could be so stupid to run on one thing and just not do it."

Coulter praised President Joe Biden for "keeping a promise Trump made, but then abandoned when he got to office" in withdrawing U.S. military troops from Afghanistan.

https://www.newsweek.com/ann-coulter-donald-trump-andrew-sullivan-dish
cast-border-wall-abjectly-stupid-1647314


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Wednesday, November 10, 2021 8:11 AM

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Nobody outside of the Lincoln Project gives two shits what passes through Ann Coulter's adam's apple.

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Wednesday, November 10, 2021 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody outside of the Lincoln Project gives two shits what passes through Ann Coulter's adam's apple.

Trump didn't get his wall in 2019 because he wouldn't negotiate. Trump releases statement trashing McConnell for not passing infrastructure while he was president. But it was Trump who walked away from a $2 trillion deal in 2019.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-hits-mcconnell-infrastructure-bu
t-he-rejected-2-trillion-deal-2021-11


Trump didn't get his wall in 2021, either, because he won't negotiate:
A $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill passed in the House on Friday with a 228-206 vote. Trump was angry that 13 Republicans voted for it, called Republican lawmakers who voted in favor of the bill “RINOs”.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/580471-trump-bashes-modera
te-republicans-mcconnell-over-bipartisan


Trump could have had his wall in 2019 or earlier, but to get 13 Democrats to vote for Trump's wall he must give them something of value in exchange for the wall. He won't make the exchange, which is why Trump is stupid.

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Wednesday, November 10, 2021 1:23 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND, you keep- unwittingly- proving MY point, over and over.

Corporate personhood is a concept promoted by .... MONEY! Those who supported and promoted it were intent on lining their pockets.

Slavery was a system that made a few people .... rich! Slave owners would have lost tremendous amounts of wealth and a continuing income stream (cotton, rice, indigo) if they gave up their slaves.

OF COURSE they were being stubborn!! Who the hell wants to give up their wealth?? Does Congress?

Do you?

It's not like you don't have vested interest in this, and you're definitely on "the other side", whether you're a Dem or Repub.



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Wednesday, November 10, 2021 1:33 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I have posted more than once that Trump will be remembered more for what he didn't accomplish than for what he did.

No news there.

If he gets another bite of the Presidency, let's hope that he's learned that he needs to keep a cadre of loyal, efficient, hardworking staff and that he remembers that the State Dept, establishment GOP, and military and security agencies are full of rabidly partisan backstabbers and that the first thing he does is a thorough housecleaning of agencies ... of which he is head.

Also, he needs to stop throwing his staff under the bus. He has to remember- it's not all him. But his ego may not allow it. He needs an excellent Chief of Staff and if CoS is good he needs to keep them on.

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Wednesday, November 10, 2021 4:07 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Slavery was a system that made a few people .... rich! Slave owners would have lost tremendous amounts of wealth and a continuing income stream (cotton, rice, indigo) if they gave up their slaves.

OF COURSE they were being stubborn!! Who the hell wants to give up their wealth?? Does Congress?

Do you?

Let's take this to the extreme by listing some characteristics of the slave-owning Founding Fathers who didn't want a namby-pamby such as John Adams or Roger Sherman telling them about the evils of slavery: Liar/Thief/Torturer/Rapist/Murderer, mostly directed toward slaves. Very clearly, Adams and Sherman compromised with some well-dressed, well-mannered, yet heinous, co-signers of the Declaration of Independence. The way the American Constitution was written, the Freedom of a Liar/Thief/Torturer/Rapist/Murderer is guaranteed to be unabridged, so long as the Constitution is obeyed and the lawyers are paid. For a very short while the Constitution was abridged during the Civil War, which put the Liars/Thieves/Torturers/Rapists/Murderers out of power in the South, but it was only temporary, lasting until President Andrew Johnson, another slave-owner, gave a Presidential pardon to all the Liars/Thieves/Torturers/Rapists/Murderers, allowing them back into power.

Signym, it really should be obvious that just because someone is well dressed, highly articulate, represented by the best lawyers, and achieves great personal wealth from being a Liar/Thief/Torturer/Rapist/Murderer that the someone shouldn't be free to do as they please, although the Constitution allows it when the someone has enough lawyers. The entire history of America shows that is how things work, unless Congress goes outside the Constitution, as it did during the Civil War and during several Wars, including wars with Indians, WWI, WWII, etc. I am really impressed with how many civilians get killed by the American Army just because civilians are easy to kill since they are unarmed. How does a civilian fight back against nukes such as Fat Man and Little Boy? For that matter, how does a civilian fight back against Exxon-Mobile attempting to kill the world with carbon dioxide? The Constitution can not hold back Marathon Petroleum, Valero Energy, Phillips 66, Chevron, and Shell because these are persons with their freedom to make money protected by the Constitution and the Republican Party.

Founding Fathers of the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founding_Fathers_of_the_United_States

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Wednesday, November 10, 2021 4:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Your virtue-signalling is so garbled as to be unreadable.
What's your point?
It got lost in the blather and doubletalk.

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Wednesday, November 10, 2021 4:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Your virtue-signalling is so garbled as to be unreadable.
What's your point?
It got lost in the blather and doubletalk.

John Adams and his son are the only presidents of the first twelve that did not own slaves in their lives. Do you think the other 10 Presidents were moral men? I'm just curious at how much blatant immorality you tolerate, Signym, because you constantly signal in all your politics that you have actually zero morality. All the Trumptards I know declare themselves morally superior, as did the slave-owners, Presidents as well as lesser people, but when and where they are moral is well hidden. Their days are spent the same as deer or cattle, looking after themselves and their offspring. Livestock and wild animals are not known to be moral creatures, Signym. They are survival machines, shaped by evolution to survive and nothing more than reproduce.

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Wednesday, November 10, 2021 5:53 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So, you're trying to distract from the failure of the Democrat Party to do anything real for the people by zigzagging to past Presidents.

Got it.

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Wednesday, November 10, 2021 5:55 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Hmmm.

Are YOU a moral creature?

It seems you're more than willing to cheat your business partners out of their investments, live off the work of others, punish people for 'wrong think', and advocate killing others as a way towards 'economic justice' and 'freedom. Oh, and you constantly lie and troll.

That's what you do, that's what you are.

So, are YOU a moral creature? Or just a rabid skunk?

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Thursday, November 11, 2021 8:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, you're trying to distract from the failure of the Democrat Party to do anything real for the people by zigzagging to past Presidents.

Got it.

You've got nothing. You didn't even acknowledge what Trump did recently: http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64373&mid=1
144410#1144410


Trump wants every Republican who voted for the Democratic bill defeated. Such obstinacy makes it impossible to govern and makes failure a certainty. I bring up past Presidents, who just so happen to be slave-owners and very sanctimonious about the righteousness of their preferred way to treat unpaid workers, as examples of how obstinacy prevented any kind of rational solution to the problem of slavery. An irrational solution, Civil War, was the final solution because the slave-owners, and their preferred Presidents, would not compromise or see reason or even act with decency toward their slaves. Good old Thomas Jefferson (portrait on the rare $2 bill) is explarary of a famous man who acted with indecency, as was Andrew Jackson (portrait on the $20) and Washington ($1). Immortalized on our money, these immoral guys need to be horsewhipped for horse whipping their slaves. Trump could use a horsewhipping, too, just because he is a lying, thieving, raping, tax-cheating, racist nitwit.

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Thursday, November 11, 2021 8:19 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Hmmm.

Are YOU a moral creature?

It seems you're more than willing to cheat your business partners out of their investments, live off the work of others, punish people for 'wrong think', and advocate killing others as a way towards 'economic justice' and 'freedom. Oh, and you constantly lie and troll.

That's what you do, that's what you are.

So, are YOU a moral creature? Or just a rabid skunk?

I see daily with the Trumptards I know in Texas that their ethics are identical to a beast's -- livestock and wildlife -- look after yourself and family. To do other than that, the Trumptards scorn and call it virtue signalling. Everything is virtue signalling in the brains of these beastly Trumptards. As expected, these beasts struggle to stay in the middle class. It could have something to do with being unable to understand that other people have ethics that beasts can't comprehend and that virtue signalling does not in anyway describe their ethics. Trump has the ethics of a beast, so it is unsurprising that beasts voted for him. He is a liar, a rapist, a tax-cheat, racist, etc. etc. For an example of ethics that goes beyond being a beastly Trumptard, see https://www.persuasion.community/p/singer

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Thursday, November 11, 2021 8:39 AM

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What's up with Trump? Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America

11/10/21

With an approval rating at 19% in Wyoming, people are wise to Liz Cheney. She is a threat to Free and Fair elections, which are the cornerstone of our Country, because she caved so easily on the Crime of the Century. She is happy to join the Democrats in the Unselect Committee (the next RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA Hoax), and spread more of their lies. Cheney is far more unpopular than her father, who just lost his position as the least popular Vice President in American history to Kamala Harris. Democrats would never put up with a Liz Cheney in their ranks. If we had a Free and Fair media, instead of a corrupt media, those election results would never have been allowed to happen. The proof of irregularities and fraud is massive!

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-e3bnsf9zzs0

So . . . Trump is still declaring he won, still claiming Russia didn't interfere in the 2016 election, still denying he started a riot on Jan 6th. Just another day for Trump: one lie after another after another.


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Thursday, November 11, 2021 1:13 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



You don't deny you're a rabid skunk. Interesting.

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Thursday, November 11, 2021 1:27 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So, still trying to derail the discussion from why Dems Will never do anything REAL for ordinary Americans, but will sit with their hands in the till while they virtue signal?

Yanno, like you, SECOND?

Want to be truly virtuous?

Then give up all you have and follow Jesus.

He said so!

But THEY won't and YOU won't.
So all of your blah-blah-blah is just ... blah-blah-blah.

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Thursday, November 11, 2021 2:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, still trying to derail the discussion from why Dems Will never do anything REAL for ordinary Americans, but will sit with their hands in the till while they virtue signal?

Yanno, like you, SECOND?

Want to be truly virtuous?

Then give up all you have and follow Jesus.

He said so!

But THEY won't and YOU won't.
So all of your blah-blah-blah is just ... blah-blah-blah.

I am not a Christian. I am a Utilitarian: What's the case for being a utilitarian and seeing the world through utilitarian eyes? I think utilitarianism — far from being a kind of dry economic science or anything like that — is actually a reforming impulse. That goes back a long way before Jeremy Bentham, but was certainly made explicit by Bentham. Bentham and later utilitarians have been against slavery, they've been for women's rights. They've been for the rights of gay people long before anybody else dared to even talk about that. They've been against cruelty to animals. They've been for prison reform. There's a long list of things that utilitarians have been trying to reduce the amount of suffering in relation to and I’m very happy to be part of that tradition and to think of utilitarianism not merely as something for philosophers to talk about, but something that motivates people to act.

More at https://www.persuasion.community/p/singer

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Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:03 PM

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CNN just aired a Fake documentary on the Presidential Election Fraud of 2020. The only thing they didn’t discuss were the tremendous number of findings indicating what a complete Sham the Election was. Would’ve been nice to have discussed the facts that have been pouring in from each of many States concerning the Crime of the Century. Are we supposed to have a Fraudulent Election that is allowed to stand while our Country is being simultaneously destroyed?

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Friday, November 12, 2021 7:51 PM

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QUOTE

CNN just aired a Fake documentary on the Presidential Election Fraud of 2020. The only thing they didn’t discuss were the tremendous number of findings indicating what a complete Sham the Election was. Would’ve been nice to have discussed the facts that have been pouring in from each of many States concerning the Crime of the Century. Are we supposed to have a Fraudulent Election that is allowed to stand while our Country is being simultaneously destroyed?

In private, V.P. Mike Pence told Trump he lost and get over it, but Trump won't admit Pence told him to "Suck on it, Fat Loser." -- Pence rejects Trump’s call to overturn Biden election
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/06/mike-pence-rejects-trumps-call-to-over
turn-biden-election.html


Trump did not handle well being told to "Suck on it, Fat Loser" by Pence. What then happened? This:

We knew Trump didn’t show much regard for his vice president, Mike Pence, during or after rioters stormed the Capitol chanting for Pence’s hanging. And it turns out Trump viewed it as part of a rational enterprise.

A brief transcript:

KARL: Were you worried about him during that siege? Were you worried about his safety?
TRUMP: No, I thought he was well-protected, and I had heard that he was in good shape. No. Because I had heard he was in very good shape. But, but, no, I think —
KARL: Because you heard those chants. That was terrible. I mean —
TRUMP: He could have — well, the people were very angry.
KARL: They were saying, “Hang Mike Pence.”
TRUMP: Because — it’s common sense, Jon. It’s common sense that you’re supposed to protect. How can you — if you know a vote is fraudulent, right — how can you pass on a fraudulent vote to Congress? How can you do that? And I’m telling you: 50/50, it’s right down the middle for the top constitutional scholars when I speak to them. Anybody I spoke to — almost all of them at least pretty much agree, and some very much agree with me — because he’s passing on a vote that he knows is fraudulent. How can you pass a vote that you know is fraudulent?

All this anger and lying just because Pence told Trump, "Suck on it, Fat Loser."

Video: In Shocking Audio Exchange, Trump Says Pence Was ‘Well-Protected’ During Jan 6. Siege

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-callous-new-comments-o
n-pence-reinforce-what-he-really-thought-of
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No, Constitutional Scholars Are Not “50/50” in Agreement With Donald Trump About Jan. 6.

Trump claimed that “50/50, it’s right down the middle for the top constitutional scholars when I speak to them” on the vice president’s authority to unilaterally throw out election results. He’s wrong — at least if “constitutional scholars” means people who have read and understand the Constitution.

Who are these “top constitutional scholars” feeding Trump this radical view? Johnny McEntee, with no legal training, sent a “memo” by text message to Marc Short, Pence’s chief of staff, claiming that “Jefferson Used His Position as VP to Win” the presidency by manipulating the electoral count and so Pence could as well. (Jefferson did no such thing.) Rudy Giuliani, whose law license has been suspended to “protect the public,” falsely told Trump that there “is no question, none at all, that the VP can do this. That’s a fact. The Constitution gives him the authority not to certify. It goes back to the state legislatures.” And of course John Eastman, whose memo baldly asserted that “the fact is that the Constitution assigns this power to the Vice President as the ultimate arbiter.”

Even Eastman has backtracked a bit, admitting that his memo was “crazy” for suggesting the plan that Pence simply reject electoral votes. Instead, he says, his real plan was for Pence to halt the count to “send it back to the states.” In Eastman’s view, this approach was at least a modicum more reasonable, because all the delay would do is give states time to look into allegations of voting irregularities. And who cares about the federal law that prohibits it?

MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell has repeatedly claimed that Trump would somehow be “reinstated” to the presidency this year, despite the absence of any constitutional provision permitting it, and Trump believes it.

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/11/trump-january-six-constitu
tion-conspiracy-theory.html




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Saturday, November 13, 2021 3:53 AM

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I have so little trust in Slate that I don't even believe them when they say that Trump said any of that.

They just make shit up out of thin air.

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I have so little trust in Slate that I don't even believe them when they say that Trump said any of that.

They just make shit up out of thin air.

You touched the sticky, nasty, smelly thing that can't be washed off of Trump and his Trumptards -- making shit up out of thin air: "Trump continues to lie, says 'real insurrection' happened when he lost election"
https://www.npr.org/2021/10/06/1043746455/trump-continues-to-lie-says-
real-insurrection-happened-when-he-lost-election


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Saturday, November 13, 2021 9:58 AM

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Quote:

'real insurrection' happened when he lost election"



This is true. Calling the clownshow that happened on January 6th an insurrection is an insult to people who live in countries where coups regularly happen and they're left dealing with the fallout.

You're an idiot.

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Friday, November 19, 2021 7:13 AM

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When the Broken Old Crow, Mitch McConnell, agreed to a two-month extension, he allowed the Democrats to get their act together and pass the $1.2 Trillion “Non-Infrastructure” Green New Deal Bill, which is a disaster for America in that only 11% of the money will be spent on REAL Infrastructure, with most being spent on Green New Deal nonsense, with big tax increases. Its actual cost is over $2 Trillion, but the bigger disaster is yet to come in the next, much larger version of the Green New Deal, which some people say will be $5 Trillion. This was all allowed by Mitch McConnell’s incompetence and now I understand that a couple Republican Senators may get on board so that they can have yet another and even bigger victory, for the Democrats, while at the same time ensuring massive Inflation and the destruction of our Country as we know it. This is what happens when you allow a guy who lost an Election to take over the Office of the President. He obviously had no mandate, but they’re changing our Country and everything it stands for. Mitch McConnell couldn’t stop the first Bill so 19 Senators, including himself, joined in. That’s what he does—if you can’t beat them, join them. If he wasn’t so stupid and didn’t give the two-month extension, he could have stopped it all. Now he and his RINO friends will allow a much bigger and far worse Bill to pass, ruining our Country while giving the Democrats a great political lift, all at the same time. People, with the help of the Fake News Media, have already forgotten about the horrendous Afghanistan withdrawal, an economy and jobs that are in shambles, and so many other things. The good news is, they can’t forget about Inflation because it’s hitting them right in the face. This is the Broken Old Crow’s fault. He could have won it all using the Debt Ceiling—they were ready to fold. Now the Democrats have a big victory and the wind at their back. McConnell is a fool and he damn well better stop their “Dream of Communism Bill” and keep his Senators in line, or he should resign now, something he should have done a long time ago. Use the Debt Ceiling like it should have been used, you Old Broken Crow, to do so would hurt our Country far less than this horrible Bill. Any Republican in the House or Senate who votes for this Bill will never ever get a Trump Endorsement. Thank you, and good luck!

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A very sad sight watching yesterday as the Taliban had a major Military parade displaying much of the $85 Billion of Military equipment the United States surrendered to them. The handling of the Afghanistan withdrawal was the greatest embarrassment in the history of our Country!

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Saturday, November 20, 2021 11:23 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Repeated Lying About Lying

Donald Trump has been using his Big Lie method of simply endlessly repeating a Big Lie with his claim that last year's presidential election was "rigged" or "stolen". According to the latest poll I just saw on the order of 70% of Republicans accept his Big Lie.

But this practice seems to be spreading as figures who have not done this like Trump now seem to be imitating him. The latest is Hugh Hewitt, a conservative who is a columnist for WaPo and usually avoids this sort of flagrant lying. But he seems to have caught the bug.

I rarely listen to his radio show, but yesterday (Nov. 15) I inadvertently heard it when it was turned on for awhile and got quite an earful. He was repeating over and over and over way more times than I could count, "Everyone knows Adam Schiff is lying. Everyone knows Adam Schiff is lying..." It was weird, so many times without a break or explanation, and even after a break he did it again and again. It was obviously an effort to convince his listeners of something he knew they did not necessarily believe. Heck, near as I can tell, at least among most Dems and non-GOPs, Schiff has a very high level of credibility. I have always found him one of the most credible people in the entire Congress with a substantial grasp of a lot of fairly complicated information and never have seen him appear to knowingly lie.

So what had Hewitt on this binge of repeated lying? It was Schiff's response to the indictment of Ivan Danchenko by the John Durham, the Special Prosecutor appointed to the DOJ during the Trump era that Merrick Garland has left in place to do his thing. Danchenko has been indicted for lying to the FBI about who his sources of information were when he provided information to Steele of the famous Steele dossier. This is all part of a long running campaign by Trump allies to somehow discredit the Steele dossier, which Hewitt, following the likes of Sean Hannity and others on Fox News, described as "totally discredited" and "shown not to contain a shred of truth."

Well, first of all, Danchenko was not indicted for actually saying anything false to Steele, only lying about who his sources were to the FBI, a point Hewitt did not mention. Indeed, and I have checked on this numerous times after hearing some of the more perfervid claims against the Steele dossier, over 70% of it has been confirmed, with some of those confirmations actually in the Mueller Report. Most of it was/is true. Only about two items in it have been shown to be false, a claim that Cohen visited Prague and that Carter Page was going to get some huge sum of money from Gazprom. Otherwise, most of it has been found to be true, with some items still in the undetermined category. That latter includes its most notorious item, the infamous "golden shower" story about Trump, which seems increasingly likely to in fact also be true, given all the stuff that just seems to keep coming out about Trump, and which may be why so many of Trump's followers are so keen on just totally discrediting the whole dossier.

As for Schiff supposedly being disbelieved by "everyone," supposedly even including people like Nancy Pelosi according to Hewitt, the only evidence he seemed to supply for this is that Schiff's recent book has not been a bestseller, #357 on some list or other. That it is not a big seller is obviously not at all evidence one way or the other about whether what is in the book is accurate or not. It is evidence that people are not all that interested, and in fact at this point most people are not much interested in this leftover 2016 election stuff, which the Steele dossier is. But the Trumpistas are still desperate to somehow discredit that dossier, even as it has largely been verified. So Hewitt and his ilk are the ones making a big fuss about his latest indictment and trying to dump on Schiff for his showing the dossier is largely accurate, in an effort to stir their own base up. But not that many care any more. They are too busy believing Trump's Big Lie about the 2020 election to be all that worked up about leftover stuff from the 2016 one.

http://econospeak.blogspot.com/2021/11/repeated-lying-about-lying.html

Download the free book "How We Almost Lost Our Democracy and Still Could" by Adam Schiff from https://libgen.unblockit.bz/search.php?req=Adam+Schiff

From the book:

If senators believed that we had proven Trump guilty of withholding hundreds of millions of dollars of military aid from an ally at war in order to coerce that nation into helping him cheat in the upcoming election, wasn’t that enough? Had the bar become so high with this president that that wasn’t enough? It was like a juror in an extortion case involving the president asking the judge, “Okay, he’s guilty, but do we really need to convict? Can’t he just go on running the country?”

But as I walked to the lectern, I suddenly understood, in a way I hadn’t fully appreciated until that moment, that this was the central question: Why should he be removed? He was the president of their party. He was putting conservative judges on the court. He was lowering their taxes. Why remove him? I had watched during breaks in the trial as the president’s Senate defenders took to the airwaves to proclaim his innocence, and I had believed them—not their claims about the president’s conduct, but that they believed what they were saying, that they believed there had been, to quote the president’s mantra of defense, no quid pro quo. But I could see now that that wasn’t it at all.

I should have known better. For the past three years, Republicans had confided, to me and to many of my Democratic colleagues, their serious misgivings about the president. Some would go on Fox News and bash me, only to urge me privately to keep on with the investigation. And it became clear that many Republicans felt someone needed to do it, someone needed to put a stop to it all, even if they couldn’t, or wouldn’t. And the question wasn’t so much “Why should he be removed?” as “Why should I be the one to remove him? Why should I risk my seat, my position of power and influence, my career and future? Why should I? Why should I?”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, November 20, 2021 4:49 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

Donald Trump has been using his Big Lie method of simply endlessly repeating a Big Lie with his claim that last year's presidential election was "rigged" or "stolen". According to the latest poll I just saw on the order of 70% of Republicans accept his Big Lie.
The fact is nobody has proved to this date whether Trump lost and Biden* won. Either is conceivably true.

How can I say that an entire presidential election can be thrown in the US? Because it's happened before. The 2004 Bush/ Kerry presidential election had impossible (in ordinary terms) discrepancies between exit polls and vote counts. (Edison/ Mitofsky).
Quote:

https://www.datamation.com/trends/computer-experts-allege-u-s-vote-fra
ud
/
A group of distinguished computer scientists and mathematicians, including nine Ph.D.s, says it has found statistical evidence that vote counts of the 2004 U.S. presidential election were tampered with in one or more states, affecting the outcome.
The discrepancies ... are worse in the U.S. than in one of two exit polls conducted during Ukraine’s recent national election, which resulted in the results being thrown out by that country’s Supreme Court last December.



And while the report didn't examine how it happened, the statistical anomalies point in a few likely directions.
Quote:

https://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/exit_polls_2004_edison-mitofsky.pdf
Exit Poll Discrepancies Rise with Concentration of Bush Voters
Very (their emphasis) Implausible Patterns of Exit Poll Participation Are Required to Satisfy E/M's data in 80-100% Bush Precincts.
The Same Exit Polls More Accurately Projected the Senate Races



And the 2004 election was a quite ordinary election, not held during a pandemic when procedures were being created on the fly.

One might even argue that the Bush/ Kerry election was also tampered with, since a complete recount of ALL votes in Florida would have narrowly decided for Gore; and the discrepancies between officially reported votes v re-counted votes only occurred in districts with electronic voting.

So the question isn't 'Is vote-rigging in US presidential elections that changes the vote outcome possible?'. The questions are 'How can we detect it?' and 'How can we prevent it?'.



And that leads to the CalTech/ MIT Voting Technology Project.
https://www.vote.caltech.edu/
https://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/96641/WP%20118.pdf

One of the recommendations is that every vote be subject to statistical analysis, to validate the vote.

BTW there's a difference between data validation and data verification.

Verification is lower-level quality control that means that some check has been made to show that the data has been accurately recorded. A vote recount is data verification.

Data validation is a more comprehensive look, using a variety of tools, including statistical analysis, examination of chain-of-custody, etc, to ensure that the data is internally consistent with itself, externally consistent with known parameters, and legally defensible. For example, this would be a check for internal consistency: in a vote where 10 people voted for the democrat, 10 people voted for the republican, and 10 people voted for the 'other', one needs to show that the vote total is 30 - and not 10, or 50.

The CalTech/ MIT Voting Technology Project recommends that ALL votes be subject to verification, a procedure that hasn't happened to date, except incidentally in 2004.

And when it comes to voting technology itself, it found that
~ paper ballots
~ hand counted
~ in public
is THE most accurate technology and procedure for matching officially recorded votes to actual votes.

Just getting to that minimal point would eliminate many of the avenues for US election fraud that actually changes the result.

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Saturday, November 20, 2021 5:40 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
The fact is nobody has proved to this date whether Trump lost and Biden* won.

1kiki and Kevin McCarthy proved that Trumptards have an exhaustible supply of bullshit:

Leader Kevin McCarthy's 8.5 hour, Record Setting Speech Against Democrats' Socialist Spending Scam



Trump has own smaller supply of bullshit. Smaller because his fingers get tired quickly:

From the Desk of Donald J Trump

11/19/21

Great job by Kevin McCarthy last night, setting a record by going over 8 hours of speaking on the House Floor in order to properly oppose Communism. We must never forget what the Democrats have done, at the highest level of evil. If Mitch McConnell had fought, you would have a different Republican President right now.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-fkdrf6uac70

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, November 20, 2021 5:43 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



What does this have to do with validating the currently unvalidated 2020 election?

OH! THAT'S RIGHT!

It's more of your trolling and bullshit!

Because you're a troll and non-stop liar!

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Saturday, November 20, 2021 5:44 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




Meanwhile, to get back to the topic of all claims about the 2020 election:

Quote:

Donald Trump has been using his Big Lie method of simply endlessly repeating a Big Lie with his claim that last year's presidential election was "rigged" or "stolen". According to the latest poll I just saw on the order of 70% of Republicans accept his Big Lie.
The fact is nobody has proved to this date whether Trump lost and Biden* won. Either is conceivably true.

How can I say that an entire presidential election can be thrown in the US? Because it's happened before. The 2004 Bush/ Kerry presidential election had impossible (in ordinary terms) discrepancies between exit polls and vote counts. (Edison/ Mitofsky).
Quote:

https://www.datamation.com/trends/computer-experts-allege-u-s-vote-fra
ud
/
A group of distinguished computer scientists and mathematicians, including nine Ph.D.s, says it has found statistical evidence that vote counts of the 2004 U.S. presidential election were tampered with in one or more states, affecting the outcome.
The discrepancies ... are worse in the U.S. than in one of two exit polls conducted during Ukraine’s recent national election, which resulted in the results being thrown out by that country’s Supreme Court last December.



And while the report didn't examine how it happened, the statistical anomalies point in a few likely directions.
Quote:

https://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/exit_polls_2004_edison-mitofsky.pdf
Exit Poll Discrepancies Rise with Concentration of Bush Voters
Very (their emphasis) Implausible Patterns of Exit Poll Participation Are Required to Satisfy E/M's data in 80-100% Bush Precincts.
The Same Exit Polls More Accurately Projected the Senate Races



And the 2004 election was a quite ordinary election, not held during a pandemic when procedures were being created on the fly.

One might even argue that the Bush/ Kerry election was also tampered with, since a complete recount of ALL votes in Florida would have narrowly decided for Gore; and the discrepancies between officially reported votes v re-counted votes only occurred in districts with electronic voting.

So the question isn't 'Is vote-rigging in US presidential elections that changes the vote outcome possible?'. The questions are 'How can we detect it?' and 'How can we prevent it?'.



And that leads to the CalTech/ MIT Voting Technology Project.
https://www.vote.caltech.edu/
https://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/96641/WP%20118.pdf

One of the recommendations is that every vote be subject to statistical analysis, to validate the vote.

BTW there's a difference between data validation and data verification.

Verification is lower-level quality control that means that some check has been made to show that the data has been accurately recorded. A vote recount is data verification.

Data validation is a more comprehensive look, using a variety of tools, including statistical analysis, examination of chain-of-custody, etc, to ensure that the data is internally consistent with itself, externally consistent with known parameters, and legally defensible. For example, this would be a check for internal consistency: in a vote where 10 people voted for the democrat, 10 people voted for the republican, and 10 people voted for the 'other', one needs to show that the vote total is 30 - and not 10, or 50.

The CalTech/ MIT Voting Technology Project recommends that ALL votes be subject to verification, a procedure that hasn't happened to date, except incidentally in 2004.

And when it comes to voting technology itself, it found that
~ paper ballots
~ hand counted
~ in public
is THE most accurate technology and procedure for matching officially recorded votes to actual votes.

Just getting to that minimal point would eliminate many of the avenues for US election fraud that actually changes the result.


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Saturday, November 20, 2021 6:03 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


QUOTE

Donald Trump


'
The Communist Democrats are engaging in yet another Witch Hunt, this time going after my Administration’s unprecedented and incredible coronavirus response, despite the fact that, sadly, more Americans have died this year from Covid than in all of 2020. It is a Witch Hunt that’s been going on for years. Why don’t they investigate Crooked Hillary, when so much has now been proven about her and her campaign’s lies and dealings with Russia to smear me and spy on my campaign? I’m telling Peter Navarro to protect executive privilege and not let these unhinged Democrats discredit our great accomplishments. The Witch Hunts must end!
'


45th President of the United States of America

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Saturday, November 20, 2021 7:04 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Meanwhile, to get back to the topic of all claims about the 2020 election:

Trump said he received millions of votes that were not counted. He lied. And he has never stopped lying. Just so you know, 1kiki, all your subtle tricks and little asterisks behind Biden's name are completely worthless to Trump because he always wins and need not prove he won.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/12/donald-trump/trumps-
tweet-about-27-million-deleted-votes-basele
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, November 20, 2021 7:44 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Trump won the election.

And now we get to sit back and watch the Democrat party destroy itself after stealing it.



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