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Derek Chauvin murdered George Floyd
Wednesday, April 21, 2021 6:44 AM
REAVERFAN
Wednesday, April 21, 2021 6:46 AM
Wednesday, April 21, 2021 9:02 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Wednesday, April 21, 2021 10:23 AM
Wednesday, April 21, 2021 10:38 AM
Wednesday, April 21, 2021 11:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: It will be appealed and thrown out. You can thank Maxine Waters and Biden* in particular when that happens. And the fact that it wasn't murder.
Wednesday, April 21, 2021 11:14 AM
Wednesday, April 21, 2021 1:19 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Wednesday, April 21, 2021 1:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The jury has decided. They have facts that we don't have access to. But the verdict will probably be appealed. The justice system will continue to process....
Wednesday, April 21, 2021 2:48 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The jury has decided. They have facts that we don't have access to. But the verdict will probably be appealed. The justice system will continue to process.... ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Wednesday, April 21, 2021 3:42 PM
OLDGUY
What Would Mal do ?
Wednesday, April 21, 2021 4:10 PM
Wednesday, April 21, 2021 4:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by OLDGUY: that Floyd was the best poster child the "community" could come up with ..to plaster his image everywhere, to loot, burn, injure others...that says all there really is to say about this larger "race" issue. Evidence? how bout, none of this should have ever happened if George was such a great "man of God".
Wednesday, April 21, 2021 4:47 PM
Wednesday, April 21, 2021 5:30 PM
Thursday, April 22, 2021 7:45 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Thursday, April 22, 2021 8:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Police violence is a systemic problem in the U.S., not simply incidental, and it happens on a scale far greater than other wealthy nations.
Thursday, April 22, 2021 10:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by second: Police violence is a systemic problem in the U.S., not simply incidental, and it happens on a scale far greater than other wealthy nations. You know you always make the argument about more guns and more violence here. Sounds like it's in line with the higher rate of violent crime here than other wealthy nations. This violence is almost exclusively in minority communities.
Quote:President Donald Trump on Thursday defended what was perhaps his most notorious remark on the campaign trail about Mexicans — a comment that was widely perceived as racist and helped solidify his reputation as an immigration hardliner. In June 2015, while Trump was a presidential candidate, he said, "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best." He added: "They're sending people that have a lot of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." Trump referred to those comments on Thursday during a televised discussion on taxes that veered into immigration. "Remember my opening remarks at Trump Tower when I opened — everyone said, 'Oh, he was so tough.' I used the word 'rape,'" Trump said. "And yes, it came out where this journey coming up — women are raped at levels that nobody's ever seen before," he continued. "They don't want to mention that. So we have to change our laws. And the Democrats, what they're doing is just — it's insanity. Nobody understands what's going on."
Thursday, April 22, 2021 11:24 AM
Thursday, April 22, 2021 12:36 PM
Thursday, April 22, 2021 2:55 PM
Thursday, April 22, 2021 4:05 PM
Thursday, April 22, 2021 6:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: You're just a parody account at this point.
Friday, April 23, 2021 10:21 AM
Friday, April 23, 2021 11:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: You're just a parody account at this point.Sesame Street Police Shoot New Black Muppet After Mistaking the Number 7 for Firearm “I, for one, thank local authorities for maintaining safety within the thoroughfares of our municipality,” claimed Sesame Street Republican committee leader Sam the Eagle. https://thehardtimes.net/culture/sesame-street-police-shoot-new-black-muppet-after-mistaking-the-number-7-for-firearm/ The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Friday, April 23, 2021 1:29 PM
Friday, April 23, 2021 1:31 PM
Friday, April 23, 2021 4:04 PM
Saturday, April 24, 2021 1:41 AM
Saturday, April 24, 2021 9:06 AM
Saturday, April 24, 2021 9:32 AM
Saturday, April 24, 2021 1:21 PM
Saturday, April 24, 2021 1:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: It's estimated that 1,000 to 6,000 more deaths occurred last year in cities where BLM protested.
Saturday, April 24, 2021 1:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Roaming Charges: The Eyes of Derek Chauvin https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/04/23/roaming-charges-the-eyes-of-derek-chauvin/ Derek Chauvin never lost control. He wasn’t the officer who arrested George Floyd on a petty complaint about a fake $20 bill. He wasn’t the officer who pulled his gun and screamed profanities at an obviously frightened, non-threatening man. He didn’t place the cuffs on so tightly they cut into the wrists and slowed the blood flow to Floyd’s hands. Chauvin didn’t shove Floyd into the cramped backseat of the police cruiser, ignoring his anxiety about being trapped in such a confined space. Chauvin didn’t brutally hurl Floyd to the street. Chauvin didn’t lose his cool. He didn’t raise his voice. He remained calm, as he got on top of Floyd, jammed his knee into his throat, and pinned his body to the pavement, pressing it down, squeezing the veins and arteries shut. He didn’t allow himself to be distracted as the crowd shouted at him, as Floyd’s lungs writhed for breath, as the EMTs searched for a pulse, finding none. As he released his knee from Floyd’s lifeless body, his expression didn’t change. He remained in control. Isn’t that the scariest part? It is for me. Derek Chauvin didn’t act on impulse. He didn’t act out of fear. He didn’t act out of anger or in response to a threat against his own life. He didn’t make a split-second decision. He didn’t let his emotions get the better of him. Derek Chauvin was in control. That’s why the other officers didn’t intervene. He wasn’t acting out of line. He wasn’t ranting. He wasn’t verbally taunting Floyd. He wasn’t beating him. He wasn’t letting any of the chaotic circumstances get under his skin. He was steady, just keeping the pressure on, minute after minute, calmly responding to Floyd’s frantic plea that he couldn’t breathe by saying with not even the faintest edge to his voice: “Then stop talking, stop yelling. It takes heck of a lot of oxygen to talk.” That’s what cold-blooded murder looks and sounds like. It’s methodical. It’s clinical. It’s emotionally detached. So the question is: was Derek Chauvin born this way or was this learned behavior. Was he born to kill or trained to? All of those latter-day eugenicists proclaiming the existent of a “violence” gene would do well to scrutinize his DNA profile. But in a sense it hardly matters. Derek Chauvin was the kind of police officer America wanted. One who didn’t get distracted. One who had a method and followed it. One who didn’t get ruffled. One who wasn’t impetuous or boisterous or overtly racist. One who didn’t lose his cool One stayed in control. Now they want to wash their hands of him and his methods. Now they want to say he was a rogue cop, a rule-breaker, a bad officer, a sadist, a vigilante. They can cut him adrift, lock him up, isolate him. But they can’t wipe away the truth. Derek was one of them. He was no rookie. He had roamed the streets for 19 years. He was a known quantity. If the police didn’t create Derek Chauvin, they recruited him, rewarded his methods, admired his calm demeanor, placed him in control. I return one more time to the fatal footage. I pause the video and scan his face, looking for something, anything that might explain how he could do what he did. But when you gaze into the eyes of Derek Chauvin, as he squeezes the last breath out of a human being under his total control, you see nothing. And that nothingness looks right back at you.
Saturday, April 24, 2021 1:49 PM
Quote:6ixStringJack: It's estimated that 1,000 to 6,000 more deaths occurred last year in cities where BLM protested. REAVERBOT: Because the pigs love to murder black people. Racists love to ghettoize them. Racists like you.
Saturday, April 24, 2021 2:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:6ixStringJack: It's estimated that 1,000 to 6,000 more deaths occurred last year in cities where BLM protested. REAVERBOT: Because the pigs love to murder black people. Racists love to ghettoize them. Racists like you. Do you seriously expect us to believe that cops shot 1000-6000 ppl in the past year? C'mon, when police are acting under a microscope, this wouldn't have escaped notice! Nah, what REALLY escapes notice is black-on-black, and black-on-everyone-else crime. Because, yanno, blacks are automatically victims of "the system" which means that their crimes are automatically excused. So sayeth BLM/Antifa.
Saturday, April 24, 2021 2:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:6ixStringJack: It's estimated that 1,000 to 6,000 more deaths occurred last year in cities where BLM protested. REAVERBOT: Because the pigs love to murder black people. Racists love to ghettoize them. Racists like you. Do you seriously expect us to believe that cops shot 1000-6000 ppl in the past year? C'mon, when police are acting under a microscope, this wouldn't have escaped notice! Nah, what REALLY escapes notice is black-on-black, and black-on-everyone-else crime. Because, yanno, blacks are automatically victims of "the system" which means that their crimes are automatically excused. So sayeth BLM/Antifa. I understand that since you're Russian, your English comprehension isn't very good. That, and you're an idiot, anyway.
Saturday, April 24, 2021 2:13 PM
Saturday, April 24, 2021 2:26 PM
Saturday, April 24, 2021 5:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So I want to get back to this for a bit. I haven't really been following this, but I recently read that the prosecution charged Chauvin with two counts of murder AND manslaughter, all for the same event. And the jury found him guilty of all three! On the face of it, that seems ludicrous. The difference between murder and manslaughter is intention. You can't kill someone both intentionally AND unintentionally. Just from a layperson's POV, I don't think Chauvin intended to kill anyone. He was using an approved hold. But the hold is only meant to be used while handcuffing, not on a cuffed suspect. Especially not one in distress. There are many points at which Chauvin SHOULD have taken his knee off, but he didn't. My guess is he'd done that many times b4 and so he was careless and maybe callous and grossly mishandled the situation, but death was not the intended outcome. So I wonder what the jury was thinking, and why they convicted someone of two mutually exclusive crimes. Or maybe they're as stupid as THUGR, TWITCHY, REAVERBOT, and SECONDRATE? Or maybe they were intimidated by the prospect of mob violence? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Saturday, April 24, 2021 5:58 PM
Saturday, April 24, 2021 6:10 PM
Quote:Derek Chauvin never lost control.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: No, this is not "cold blooded murder", ya boob. Emotional control is how police are SUPPOSED to act. Do you WANT police to be acting out of panic, or anger, or hyped- up adrenaline? I'm pretty sure Chauvin did not intend for Floyd to die. He fucked up. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Saturday, April 24, 2021 6:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Ok, so he wasn't convicted on three charges, only one? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Saturday, April 24, 2021 7:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:6ixStringJack: It's estimated that 1,000 to 6,000 more deaths occurred last year in cities where BLM protested. REAVERBOT: Because the pigs love to murder black people. Racists love to ghettoize them. Racists like you. Do you seriously expect us to believe that cops shot 1000-6000 ppl in the past year? C'mon, when police are acting under a microscope, this wouldn't have escaped notice!
Quote:Nah, what REALLY escapes notice is black-on-black, and black-on-everyone-else crime.
Quote:Because, yanno, blacks are automatically victims of "the system" which means that their crimes are automatically excused. So sayeth BLM/Antifa.
Saturday, April 24, 2021 7:44 PM
Saturday, April 24, 2021 7:48 PM
Saturday, April 24, 2021 7:58 PM
Saturday, April 24, 2021 8:24 PM
Sunday, April 25, 2021 12:37 PM
Quote:For example, now, far fewer Americans personally believe George Floyd was murdered (36%) compared to last summer (60%). Though slightly more believe it was an accident (8%, up from 3%), much of this shift has been to respondents saying they don’t know. Currently, 17% say they don’t know how to characterize Floyd’s death, up from 4% in June.
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