Too Shameful To Repeat by JO753

Wrong Polish Russian collaborator Signym. Your posts and interpretation of your posts are bullshit.

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 1:50 PM

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LEST THIS BECOME BURIED BY THUGR'S ENDLESS TROLLING

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SIGNYM: Apparently you can't tell the difference between intimidating and discussing.

CC: O_o eh?
I said: "I'm sorry, but isn't the new you suppose to applaud Jo's free speech and his right to use it? Where's your new, "let's all get together and love one another?" Guess that was just a phase."

I agree, division = bad. I said Trump was the most divisive president we've ever seen, by design. So were you calling out Trump during the last 4 years for being divisive? So why now?

SIGNYM: The division was caused, at least in part, by the media and the deep state. They endlessly slagged him DURING his campaign, and endlessly - and unfairly- slagged him as "racist" for his border protection policies, then we heard how "unfair" the electoral college was and that we should change the Constitution, then we spent three-and-some years hearing that he was "Putin's puppet", a traitor, or worse and that he only won because of the Kremlin's help.

Then there were "leaks" from his office that he was unfit to be President. Then there was "quid pro quo" ... an allegation entirely unsupported by the transcript. There are at least a half-dozen other lies that were told about Trump in the media. I can't think of ANY President who was so repeatedly and unfairly and deliberately targeted for defamation while in office. On top of that, the media endlessly portrayed Trump supporters as idiots, racists, rubes, retards, or worse. It was all highly inflammatory. Nowhere was propaganda-free reporting to be found

By contrast, look at Obama. He did some really horrible shit to the American people, the military, and the world, but the media covered his ass and buried all of HIS offenses, plus he was a smooth talker.

Yanno, it IS possible to discuss Trump's POLICIES objectively. Focus on WHAT HE HAS DONE instead of what he tweeted or what people "said" about him. If we focused on WHAT PRESIDENTS HAVE DONE, and actually tried to determine the truth instead of burying ourselves into the hivemind, and applied that to Obama, and GWB, and Bill we wouldn't have been re-electing such a-holes.

I've tried to discuss Trump's policies many times (As you know, I didn't agree with all of them) and for my pains I was constantly slagged as a "Russian troll" simply because I wasn't hopping on-board with the relentless media narrative (lies).

You people ... the ones who carried on with that divisiveness ... YOU should be ashamed of yourselves for being so weak-minded and gullible, for behaving like a lynch mob and trying to hammer dissenting opinion into the ground.

And being driven by a dishonest media is no excuse.

And let's not forget Hillary calling half of the USA "deplorables", and the call to harass Trump supporters in public. WHO is causing the division, again?

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 3:38 PM

JO753

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The usual tactics.

Sorry, I dont hav the time to play today.

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 3:43 PM

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Originally posted by JO753:
The usual tactics.

Sorry, I dont hav the time to play today.

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So, WHO is being divisive? Thanks for demonstrating my point.

Sorry you're not up for showing me where I'm wrong.

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 4:11 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

And let's not forget Hillary calling half of the USA "deplorables", and the call to harass Trump supporters in public. WHO is causing the division, again?

She said "half" of Trump supporters fit into a "basket of deplorables," "the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic — you name it," "while the other half are people who feel the government has let them down and need understanding and empathy."

The biggest problem in Clinton's statement is that she said "half" of Trump supporters are racists, xenophobes and otherwise bigots. Half means equal or near-equal parts. There's no data to support such a specific number.

https://www.npr.org/2016/09/10/493427601/hillary-clintons-basket-of-de
plorables-in-full-context-of-this-ugly-campaign

I loved that quote from NPR "There's no data to support such a specific number." That made me laugh and think of slave-owning Confederates getting angry at the misrepresentations by abolitionists of Southern slave-owners' character. In Texas I have never run into a stone cold racist or even a half-ass racist (and there are plenty of both in Texas) who could admit they were racist. So it is humorously unsurprising that Trump voters can't recognize themselves when described by Hillary, but she was wrong. The number is not half; that's too small.

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 5:17 PM

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Listen to Trump Pressure Georgia Secretary of State to “Find 11,780 Votes”

In a phone call Saturday, the president issued threats warning of legal repercussions if Brad Raffensperger didn't do as he asked.

During the hourlong phone call Trump not only practically begged Raffensperger to act, he also issued vague threats, implying that failing to do his bidding could lead to criminal liability.

Raffensperger and his lawyer repeatedly told Trump that the count was accurate and that Biden did, in fact, win the state by 11,779 votes. Trump was having none of it and insisted that he knew he came out on top. “Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong,” Raffensperger said. The Post published a four-and-a-half minute cut of the audio that is worth listening to if for no other reason than to understand what a parallel universe the president is living in. It seems Trump has surrounded himself with conspiracy theorists who feed him false information that he then repeats as true without once providing any evidence to back his assertions. “There’s no way I lost Georgia,” Trump repeats over and over again in the call.

Even though Trump assures he won “by hundreds of thousands of votes” at one point he makes clear he doesn’t care about all that. “I just want to find 11,780 votes,” Trump said at one point. “Because we won the state.” At another point of the call he seems to issue vague threats that Raffensperger and his lawyer, Ryan Germany, could face legal repercussions. “That’s a criminal offense,” he said. “And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer.” Throughout the call he appeals to Raffensperger as a Republican saying his refusal to do Trump’s bidding could end up hurting Republicans in the state in the crucial runoff election Tuesday that will decide which party controls the Senate. “You have a big election coming up and because of what you’ve done to the president—you know, the people of Georgia know that this was a scam,” Trump said. “Because of what you’ve done to the president, a lot of people aren’t going out to vote.”

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/listen-trump-pressure-geor
gia-secretary-of-state-votes.html

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 5:24 PM

Trumps trying to destroy the country SECOND and Polish Russian collaborator Sig is calling JO the problem. She has absolutely no idea how stupid she comes across.

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 5:33 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

I pay absolutely zero attention to what Trump tweets. And the only people who care about that are his base, and the never-Trumpers. Everyone else in the middle thinks it's just part of the noise coming out of Washington, along with Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell et al.

Normal people pay attention to what get done, not what gets said.

If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 5:37 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
Trumps trying to destroy the country SECOND and Polish Russian collaborator Sig is calling JO the problem. She has absolutely no idea how stupid she comes across.

T

I have to deal with Trump lovers all day at work. Not one of them has enough self-awareness to see that their problems can never be solved by changing the government to their liking because their problems are internal to their bodies and minds. Their crying need to takeover the government isn't nearly enough to ease their pain, especially when I can see how they sabotage their own lives constantly, unrelentingly, completely unconsciously. On the other hand, I know highly successful and rich people who voted for Trump. They aren't stupid. They fixed their minds and they correctly see the Republican Party as useful for them to accumulate wealth.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 6:21 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Yanno, it IS possible to discuss Trump's POLICIES objectively. Focus on WHAT HE HAS DONE instead of what he tweeted or what people "said" about him.

Yanno, it is possible to expect a president to be a decent person AND not dog-whistle racists, antagonize, and lie every thirty seconds.

EVERYTHING he's been accused of doing WE ALL KNOW HE'S DONE.

Why are you trying sooo hard to sugar coat that??

We aren't EVER going to be ashamed for hating Chump and what he's done to this country. I do not give a shit about his fake ass hypocrite policies. His actions are VERY clear.

Piece of shit to the core, just like his followers

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 6:26 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I pay absolutely zero attention.

FIFY BOOMER.

You idiots are really 100% mindlessly dedicated to downplaying ANYTHING negative that Chump and his disgusting fascist buddies have done.

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 6:43 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Chump and his disgusting fascist buddies have done.

What has he DONE that democrats* haven't ALSO done?

Not said, not tweeted, not misquoted by the m$m, or taken out of context - what has he DONE that's so out of line with previous presidents?

And if democrats* don't DO any different, how are they any better?

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 6:49 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

What has he DONE?

Not said, not tweeted, not misquoted by the m$m, or taken out of context - what has he DONE?

Are you asking if Trump has killed somebody with bare hands rather than talk them to death? No, but he has been executing people since the election because this is his last chance to kill. And as for actual murderers? Trump pardoned them.

In an unprecedented glut of judicial killing, the Trump administration rushed to put 10 prisoners to death.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/15/trump-administration-us-death-
penalty-executions

Trump Has Pardoned a Child Murderer
www.newsweek.com/trump-pardoned-child-murderer-lawyer-iraq-blackwater-
massacre-victims-1557115

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 6:50 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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Chump and his disgusting fascist buddies have done.

What has he DONE that democrats* haven't ALSO done?

Not said, not tweeted, not misquoted by the m$m, or taken out of context - what has he DONE that's so out of line with previous presidents?

And if democrats* don't DO any different, how are they any better?

He's the first president this millennium that didn't start new wars with brown people for oil half a world away.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 8:06 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

He's the first president this millennium that didn't start new wars with brown people for oil half a world away.

Have you seen America's military in action? They are great at killing the wrong people but they lose war after war after war. Even fat stupid Trump knows it. If he'd gone to war, he would have lost, just like America's military has done again and again.

Why America Loses Every War It Starts

Most Americans rightly believe that the U.S. military is the best and most formidable in the world. If that is correct, why, since the end of World War II, has the United States lost every war it started and failed every time it used force without just cause? Indeed, if the U.S. military was a sports team, it would land in the bottom divisions.

History makes this case.

John F. Kennedy presided over the doomed Bay of Pigs invasion in 1961 and set in motion the Vietnam War. While many believe the Cuban Missile Crisis was a great victory, in fact, the Kennedy administration precipitated it with a massive defense buildup in 1961 that forced Soviet Leader Nikita Khrushchev to abandon his military reductions and place short-range nuclear missiles in Cuba to bypass American nuclear superiority.

Lyndon Johnson followed Kennedy into the Vietnam quagmire that led to over 58,000 dead Americans and possibly millions of Vietnamese based on the fallacious view that communism was monolithic and had to stopped there so it did not spread here. Burdened with Vietnam and a plan so secret it did not exist, it took Richard Nixon nearly five years to end that war. While his outreach to China was brilliant as was détente with Russia, Watergate destroyed his presidency.

Jimmy Carter was weak. The failed Desert One raid in 1980 to free 54 Americans held hostage in Tehran compounded the Vietnam malaise. While Ronald Reagan was seen to be tough, he did not bankrupt the Soviet Union in an arms race as it was the irrationality of the system and its brittleness that caused it’s fracturing. But he did send Marines into Beirut in 1983 and 241 died in the barracks bombing. At the same time, Reagan invaded Grenada in part to prevent the Soviets from building an air base and rescue American students at St. Georges Medical School. However, the airfield was being constructed by a British firm and had been part of a decades old plan to increase tourism. And the American commander in the field had told the White House that the students were in no danger.

More at https://observer.com/2017/11/why-america-loses-every-war-it-starts/

If you want to read the book "Anatomy of failure: why America loses every war it starts" it is a free download at
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"This book should be read by all practitioners and serious students of national security as the guide for avoiding failures and miscalculations in using American military power." -- Gen. Colin L. Powell, USA (Ret.), Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (1989-1993)

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 8:27 PM

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6IXSTRINGJACK:

He's the first president this millennium that didn't start new wars with brown people for oil half a world away.

SECOND: Have you seen America's military in action? They are great at killing the wrong people but they lose war after war after war. Even fat stupid Trump knows it. If he'd gone to war, he would have lost, just like America's military has done again and again.

So, are you giving points to Trump for figuring out what seems to have evaded every other President, from Truman forward?

Because in that light, Trump is a friggin' GENIUS compared to all of the other Presidents in the last 70 years.

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 8:32 PM

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I pay absolutely zero attention.

FIFY BOOMER.

You idiots are really 100% mindlessly dedicated to downplaying ANYTHING negative that Chump and his disgusting fascist buddies have done.

NOT TRUE.

But you and your ilk have relentlessly focused on such non-events as Trump's "collusion" with Russia and his presumed "racism" that you missed all of the IMPORTANT stuff.

I TRIED to discuss this under "Good, bad, and ugly" but you weren't capable.

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 8:36 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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SIGNYM:

Yanno, it IS possible to discuss Trump's POLICIES objectively. Focus on WHAT HE HAS DONE instead of what he tweeted or what people "said" about him.

WISHY: Yanno, it is possible to expect a president to be a decent person AND not dog-whistle racists, antagonize, and lie every thirty seconds.

EVERYTHING he's been accused of doing WE ALL KNOW HE'S DONE.

Baloney.

How about this: How about expecting a President NOT to start a new war every other year of his Presidency. How about expecting a President to bail out PEOPLE during a crisis, instead of banks? How about expecting a President NOT to illegally surveil the citizens of his nation? How about expecting a President NOT to dog-whistle gays, illegals, and feminists, and racists?

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 8:42 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
Trumps trying to destroy the country SECOND and Polish Russian collaborator Sig is calling JO the problem. She has absolutely no idea how stupid she comes across.

T

I have to deal with Trump lovers all day at work. Not one of them has enough self-awareness to see that their problems can never be solved by changing the government to their liking because their problems are internal to their bodies and minds. Their crying need to takeover the government isn't nearly enough to ease their pain, especially when I can see how they sabotage their own lives constantly, unrelentingly, completely unconsciously. On the other hand, I know highly successful and rich people who voted for Trump. They aren't stupid. They fixed their minds and they correctly see the Republican Party as useful for them to accumulate wealth.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Polish Russian collaborator Kiki says she doesn’t pay attention to what Trump tweets. This way she doesn’t have to answer for them. Imagine that, she should ignore Biden and politics completely then.

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 8:51 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
6IXSTRINGJACK:

He's the first president this millennium that didn't start new wars with brown people for oil half a world away.

SECOND: Have you seen America's military in action? They are great at killing the wrong people but they lose war after war after war. Even fat stupid Trump knows it. If he'd gone to war, he would have lost, just like America's military has done again and again.
So, are you giving points to Trump for figuring out what seems to have evaded every other President, from Truman forward?

Because in that light, Trump is a friggin' GENIUS compared to all of the other Presidents in the last 70 years.

Give Trump points for knowing his limitations. He couldn't run a war and he knows it, so he ignored his war powers. He couldn't handle Covid-19 and he knows it, so he ignores it, too.

Why, since the end of World War II, has the United States either lost every war it started or failed in every military intervention it prosecuted?

Harlan Ullman's new book answers this most disturbing question, a question Americans would never think of even asking because this record of failure has been largely hidden in plain sight or forgotten with the passage of time.

The most straightforward answer is that presidents and administrations have consistently failed to use sound strategic thinking and lacked sufficient knowledge or understanding of the circumstances prior to deciding whether or not to employ force.

Making this case is an in-depth analysis of the records of presidents from John F. Kennedy to Barack Obama and Donald Trump in using force or starting wars. His recommended solutions begin with a "brains-based" approach to sound strategic thinking to address one of the major causes of failure ----the inexperience of too many of the nation's commanders-in-chief. Ullman reinforces his argument through the use of autobiographical vignettes that provide a human dimension and insight into the reasons for failure, in some cases making public previously unknown history.

If you want to read the book "Anatomy of failure: why America loses every war it starts" it is a free download at
https://libgen.unblockit.dev/search.php?req=Why+America+Loses+Every+Wa
r+It+Starts
"Given the time a book must be in the printer’s hands — this one will appear in the fall of 2017 — a studied analysis of the Trump administration is impossible. Indeed, given the president’s often-instant reversals on policy promises and statements, informed analysis has a half-life of a few hours, or a day or two."

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 10:22 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Kiki says she doesn’t pay attention to what Trump tweets. This way she doesn’t have to answer for them. Imagine that, she should ignore Biden ... completely then.

Have you seen me whinging about Biden* speeches? No.

Have you seen me respond to ANY of Nancy Pelosi*'s tweets? No.

Have you seen me criticize Hillary* based her track record? YES!

Or evaluate Biden*'s nominees based on their track records? YES!

How about you?

If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

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Kiki says she doesn’t pay attention to what Trump tweets. This way she doesn’t have to answer for them. Imagine that, she should ignore Biden ... completely then.

Have you seen me whinging about Biden* speeches? No.

Have you seen me respond to ANY of Nancy Pelosi*'s tweets? No.

Have you seen me criticize Hillary* based her track record? YES!

Or evaluate Biden*'s nominees based on their track records? YES!

How about you?

Have you read the transcript of Trump telling Georgia to change the votes to make Trump the winner? It happened only yesterday:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-phone
-call-transcript/index.html

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Monday, January 4, 2021 1:05 AM

Biden* didn't win.

It was stolen.

We just have to deal with the fact that elections don't mean anything in America anymore. Maybe they never did.

The sun will still rise tomorrow. Whatever.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Monday, January 4, 2021 2:19 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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6IXSTRINGJACK:

He's the first president this millennium that didn't start new wars with brown people for oil half a world away.

SECOND: Have you seen America's military in action? They are great at killing the wrong people but they lose war after war after war. Even fat stupid Trump knows it. If he'd gone to war, he would have lost, just like America's military has done again and again.

So, are you giving points to Trump for figuring out what seems to have evaded every other President, from Truman forward?

Because in that light, Trump is a friggin' GENIUS compared to all of the other Presidents in the last 70 years.

SECOND Give Trump points for knowing ~~his~~ the military's limitations.... [/quote[ Yep, I do give him points for that.

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Why, since the end of World War II, has the United States either lost every war it started or failed in every military intervention it prosecuted?

Not EVERY one. We did manage to prevail in Panama and Grenada

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Harlan Ullman's new book answers this most disturbing question, a question Americans would never think of even asking because this record of failure has been largely hidden in plain sight or forgotten with the passage of time.

The most straightforward answer is that presidents and administrations have consistently failed to use sound strategic thinking and lacked sufficient knowledge or understanding of the circumstances prior to deciding whether or not to employ force...

I think it's deeper than that. I think Presidents are largely not in control of foreign policy. Look at Trump: He wanted to withdraw troops from the ME and the best he could do was reach a stalemate, with the military overpromising and underlings lying to him about troop strength. He wanted to negotiate with N Korea and was torpedoes by Bolt-on. He wanted to secure our borders but all he managed was a protracted struggle with globalist liberaloids.

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Making this case is an in-depth analysis of the records of presidents from John F. Kennedy

Who was assassinated, some say for vowing to take the CIA apart

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to Barack Obama

Who sacked the entire upper level of generals and who worked hand-in-glove with the CIA black ops and State Department, and who achieved exactly what he wanted to achieve: destabilizing the ME.

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and Donald Trump

who got bogged down by the deep state; implementing his foreign policy turned into an exercise in running thru jello.

Did you know that the military generals were shocked as shit when Reagan, out of the blue, proposed nuclear arms reduction? Betcha dollars to donuts they promied themselves that THAT would never happen again!

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His recommended solutions begin with a "brains-based" approach to sound strategic thinking to address one of the major causes of failure ----the inexperience of too many of the nation's commanders-in-chief.

I think the big problem is that foreign policy is NOT made by the CiC. And what YOU see as "failure" is prolly counted as "success". You think that destablizing the mideast and funding jihadists to run around and make trouble is a "failure"? I think that our "strategic thinkers" just decided to throw a stinkbomb in Russia's direction to keep them busy while we "pivoted" to the far east.

They use our soldiers like cannon fodder, or hostages. It's not about "winning wars", SECOND, and never has been.

Just watch: Biden* will continue to antagonize Russia because there's no downside, but I'll bet he'll cozy up to the Chinese because (1) that's where Big Tech wants to continue to make their $$ (Musk is making electric cars in China and selling them to India) and (2) China wants to stop making cheap shit for Walmart and move up the value-added chain, so they'll shed their chainsaws and mops and toilet paper mfr to Malaysia or Vietnam or Phillipines ... a win!win!... for everyone excpet Americans.

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Monday, January 4, 2021 4:13 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
and his presumed "racism" that you missed all of the IMPORTANT stuff.

Only a Nazi thinks a Prez being racist ISN'T important.

SigHEIL

Think that's gonna be my nickname for you permanently. Hope you like it, bootkisser.

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Monday, January 4, 2021 4:17 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Biden* didn't win.

It was stolen.

It's pretty clear just driving around here that the only people who still like Chump are the overflowing racist trash with a yard to match.

The only thing stolen from Chump supporters is a rather large chunk of the frontal lobe

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Monday, January 4, 2021 5:19 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Have you read the transcript of Trump telling Georgia to change the votes to make Trump the winner?

Why, yes I did! Have you? Because it seems amazing that you could condense an entire hour-long conversation into a short, misrepresented, out-of-context partial phrase!

What I ALSO did was try to figure out what was plausible, unlike - say - you.

And here's what I got:

Georgia pre-election polls were either running with Trump and Biden at 50/50, or Trump a bit ahead.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/where-the-presidential-race-stand
s-before-the-last-debate/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/ga/georgia_tru
mp_vs_biden-6974.html

So pre-election Georgia polls were wrong.

The EXIT polls were completely effed up. There are literally pages of results about how wrong the exit polls were. Here are some from my search results about exit polls:

Exit Polls Came Up Short This Year. Here’s Why.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/videos/dont-believe-anything-the-2020-exit
-polls-tell-you/

The problem with exit poll takes, explained
https://www.vox.com/21552679/exit-poll-accuracy

Election 2020: How Accurate Are Exit Polls And Should We Believe Them?
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/11/03/election-2020-how-accurate-a
re-exit-polls-and-should-we-believe-them/

Election 2020 exit polls: Political pundits utterly failed to predict Donald Trump's voters
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/11/07/election-2020-exit-p
olls-trump-minorities-race-women-column/6191966002/

‘Arithmetically impossible’! Pollster explains why the 2020 election is ‘deeply puzzling’ in fact, stat, and math-filled thread
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/11/29/arithmetically-impossible-pol
lster-explains-why-the-2020-election-is-deeply-puzzling-in-fact-stat-and-math-filled-thread/

Why the polls were wrong - and will never be right again
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/why-the-polls-were-wrong-an
d-will-never-be-right-again-20201104-p56bf4.html

And national exit polls were wrong, just like in 2004. (Mitofsky)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election
_in_Georgia

The GEORGIA exit polls had Trump narrowly winning.

And I'm not even going to address the high jinx caught on video tape.

In terms of pre-election polls and exit polls v counts, this is like Mitofsky 2004, déjà vu all over again. And no matter how many times you count the ballots forwards, backwards, and sideways, it won't tell you if something was done with them before you officially tallied them.

Until a neutral. academic. thorough. statistical. investigation is carried out - for example by the CalTech/ MIT voting project - no amount lawsuits and judicial opinion will ever unscramble if 2020 was a legitimate election or not.

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Monday, January 4, 2021 7:35 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
6IXSTRINGJACK:

He's the first president this millennium that didn't start new wars with brown people for oil half a world away.

SECOND: Have you seen America's military in action? They are great at killing the wrong people but they lose war after war after war. Even fat stupid Trump knows it. If he'd gone to war, he would have lost, just like America's military has done again and again.
So, are you giving points to Trump for figuring out what seems to have evaded every other President, from Truman forward?

Because in that light, Trump is a friggin' GENIUS compared to all of the other Presidents in the last 70 years.

Regarding strategy, we must ask: “Why is it that, given the historical realities of the past seven decades, the United States and its presidents too often did so poorly? Why did they not make better strategic calculations in committing the nation to major military interventions?” Of course, the West won the Cold War. But that war never went hot. The wars that did go hot have plagued us the most. One reason is that in those cases brains and intellect were never fully applied, leading to misjudgments, mistakes, and misperceptions that ultimately created failure. Brains and intellect alone have been insufficient to inform and educate the elected leadership, to inculcate in its members a complete understanding of the grim fiscal realities and the current dangers to the U.S. military of uncontrolled internal cost growth.

Obviously, no sensible person would advocate rejecting the use of brains and intellect, especially not in the tortuous problems affecting vital national security issues. The key question is how best to apply brains and intellect. Too often, other factors have taken precedence: domestic political pressures, appointment of civilian officials to key positions whose success in winning elections was not matched by the ability to govern, ideological convictions, flawed assumptions, narrow bureaucratic or parochial interests, disregard of budget realities, the use of money as an alternative or palliative, normal human frailty, and intellectual laziness. All these have negated or overridden the need for a rigorous, relevant, and above all objective intellectual framework. Such a framework would be a “brains-based approach,” working from a mind-set appropriate for the twenty-first century.

For example, despite the experience of the senior members of George W. Bush’s cabinet, no one seriously asked or answered the “What next?” question about Iraq during the buildup to that war in 2002 and 2003. No one considered what needed to be done once Saddam had been dethroned.

The Obama administration was made to look impotent by drawing “red lines” against Bashar al-Assad’s conduct in Syria and demanding his ouster without the means or a plan to make good on that threat. Regardless of the arguments for or against a strategic pivot to Asia, the manner in which the strategy was announced scared allies and friends and provoked China. In any case, the situation in the Greater Middle East soon deteriorated, and the pivot was eclipsed by the need to “rebalance” forces to that theater.

from Chapter 10 of Anatomy of Failure: Why America Loses Every War It Starts
by Harlan Ullman

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Monday, January 4, 2021 7:37 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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SIGNY ... and his presumed "racism" that you missed all of the IMPORTANT stuff.

WISHY: Only a Nazi thinks a Prez being racist ISN'T important.
SigHEIL
Think that's gonna be my nickname for you permanently. Hope you like it, bootkisser.

The important word, WISHY, is "PRESUMED". You PRESUME that Trump's actions are indeed "racist".

Yanno WISHY, you've been wrong about what I think just about every time that you post about it. You're wrong SO OFTEN about what I think that you're probabaly wrong about Trump, too. You see "fascists" and "Nazis" and "Russian trolls" everywhere, especialy where they don't exist.

How about providing a few examples showing that Trump is "racist"?

While you're at it, how about providing a few examples that I'm "Nazi", "Fascist", "Russian troll"?

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Monday, January 4, 2021 8:43 AM

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Biden* didn't win.

It was stolen.

It's pretty clear just driving around here that the only people who still like Chump are the overflowing racist trash with a yard to match.

The only thing stolen from Chump supporters is a rather large chunk of the frontal lobe

Nilbog thinks this is still how you win an argument in 2021.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Monday, January 4, 2021 8:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Quote:
Have you read the transcript of Trump telling Georgia to change the votes to make Trump the winner?
Why, yes I did! Have you? Because it seems amazing that you could condense an entire hour-long conversation into a short, misrepresented, out-of-context partial phrase!

What I ALSO did was try to figure out what was plausible, unlike - say - you.

And here's what I got:

Georgia pre-election polls were either running with Trump and Biden at 50/50, or Trump a bit ahead.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/where-the-presidential-race-stand
s-before-the-last-debate/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/ga/georgia_tru
mp_vs_biden-6974.html

So pre-election Georgia polls were wrong.

Quote:
The EXIT polls were completely effed up. There are literally pages of results about how wrong the exit polls were. Here are some from my search results about exit polls:

Exit Polls Came Up Short This Year. Here’s Why.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/videos/dont-believe-anything-the-2020-exit
-polls-tell-you/

The problem with exit poll takes, explained
https://www.vox.com/21552679/exit-poll-accuracy

Election 2020: How Accurate Are Exit Polls And Should We Believe Them?
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/11/03/election-2020-how-accurate-a
re-exit-polls-and-should-we-believe-them/

Election 2020 exit polls: Political pundits utterly failed to predict Donald Trump's voters
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/11/07/election-2020-exit-p
olls-trump-minorities-race-women-column/6191966002/

‘Arithmetically impossible’! Pollster explains why the 2020 election is ‘deeply puzzling’ in fact, stat, and math-filled thread
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/11/29/arithmetically-impossible-pol
lster-explains-why-the-2020-election-is-deeply-puzzling-in-fact-stat-and-math-filled-thread/

Why the polls were wrong - and will never be right again
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/why-the-polls-were-wrong-an
d-will-never-be-right-again-20201104-p56bf4.html

And national exit polls were wrong, just like in 2004. (Mitofsky)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election
_in_Georgia

The GEORGIA exit polls had Trump narrowly winning.

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And I'm not even going to address the high jinx caught on video tape.

In terms of pre-election polls and exit polls v counts, this is like Mitofsky 2004, déjà vu all over again. And no matter how many times you count the ballots forwards, backwards, and sideways, it won't tell you if something was done with them before you officially tallied them.

Until a neutral. academic. thorough. statistical. investigation is carried out - for example by the CalTech/ MIT voting project - no amount lawsuits and judicial opinion will ever unscramble if 2020 was a legitimate election or not.

Pre and Post Election polls aren't going to be right if they forgot to rig them as much as they rigged the actual election.

Anybody with half a brain knows that this means that they ended up having to pull a whole lot of unexpected 11th hour cheating since Trump did even better than they imagined he would. The original amount of cheating that they'd planned to fall within the margin of error of the original fake polls wasn't good enough.

Just like the Ukraine phone call, there's nothing here with this one either.

Except more evidence that the multi-national corporations are in league with the establishment and will do anything to remove Trump and make sure that a non-Establishment candidate never wins an election again.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Monday, January 4, 2021 8:50 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

How about providing a few examples showing that Trump is "racist"?

For years, even before mounting a formal bid for the presidency, Trump regaled television news audiences with racist conspiracy theories about former President Barack Obama. He pledged to send investigators out to prove the nation’s 44th president was not born in the United States. He later derided immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador, and African countries, calling those foreign nations “shit hole countries.” He once said immigrants from Haiti all “have AIDS” and that Nigerian immigrants would never “go back to their huts.”

In Trump’s mind, a judge’s Mexican heritage made him incapable of ruling fairly in a civil fraud case against one of his companies, and he believes “laziness is a trait in blacks.” Trump, whose real estate company was sued for housing discrimination in the 1970s, went on to place a full-page ad in the New York Times calling for the execution of five innocent black teenagers. Even after the Central Park Five were exonerated, he refused to take it back.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-is-a-racist-if-you-still-support-h
im-so-are-you

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Monday, January 4, 2021 8:52 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

How about providing a few examples showing that Trump is "racist"?
For years, even before mounting a formal bid for the presidency, Trump regaled television news audiences with racist conspiracy theories about former President Barack Obama. He pledged to send investigators out to prove the nation’s 44th president was not born in the United States.

Not racist. Probably true.

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He later derided immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador, and African countries, calling those foreign nations “shit hole countries.”

Not racist. Absolutely true.

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He once said immigrants from Haiti all “have AIDS” and that Nigerian immigrants would never “go back to their huts.”
s

Citations needed.

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In Trump’s mind, a judge’s Mexican heritage made him incapable of ruling fairly in a civil fraud case against one of his companies, and he believes “laziness is a trait in blacks.” Trump, whose real estate company was sued for housing discrimination in the 1970s, went on to place a full-page ad in the New York Times calling for the execution of five innocent black teenagers. Even after the Central Park Five were exonerated, he refused to take it back.

See: 1970's.

Go fuck yourself dummy.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Monday, January 4, 2021 8:58 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Except more evidence that the multi-national corporations are in league with the establishment and will do anything to remove Trump and make sure that a non-Establishment candidate never wins an election again.

It was yesterday that Trump got caught pleading with Georgia's election chief to help him 'find enough votes' to overturn the result in the state. 'find enough votes' means 'CHEAT'

Read the full transcript and listen to Trump's audio call with Georgia secretary of state
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-phone
-call-transcript/index.html

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Monday, January 4, 2021 9:00 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Not racist. Probably true.

You are crazy, 6ix:

Donald Trump Admits Obama Born in U.S. After Years Pushing ‘Birther’ Conspiracy

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, January 4, 2021 9:43 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr

My next project will be to duplicate the skeleton uv my rite foot bekuz therez a chans I may sumday encounter Trump or wun uv hiz dispicable offspring and will not be able to rezist breaking it off in their ass.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real solution: https://fundrazr.com/71jIY1?ref=ab_f9ZUS0

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Monday, January 4, 2021 9:54 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Not racist. Probably true.
You are crazy, 6ix:

Donald Trump Admits Obama Born in U.S. After Years Pushing ‘Birther’ Conspiracy

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

He only said that because he was pressured to say it.

Don't forget that Hillary Clinton started the Birther "conspiracy" too, retard.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Monday, January 4, 2021 9:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
My next project will be to duplicate the skeleton uv my rite foot bekuz therez a chans I may sumday encounter Trump or wun uv hiz dispicable offspring and will not be able to rezist breaking it off in their ass.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real solution: https://fundrazr.com/71jIY1?ref=ab_f9ZUS0

Probably better figure out how to clone yourself first since the Secret Service would probably end that life pretty quick.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Monday, January 4, 2021 10:05 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

In terms of pre-election polls and exit polls v counts, this is like Mitofsky 2004, déjà vu all over again. And no matter how many times you count the ballots forwards, backwards, and sideways, it won't tell you if something was done with them before you officially tallied them.

Until a neutral. academic. thorough. statistical. investigation is carried out - for example by the CalTech/ MIT voting project - no amount lawsuits and judicial opinion will ever unscramble if 2020 was a legitimate election or not.

More agenda driven, Crap "Science" from FIFI. She even shoots herself in the foot by questioning the validity of polls

"So pre-election Georgia polls were wrong.

The EXIT polls were completely effed up. There are literally pages of results about how wrong the exit polls were. Here are some from my search results about exit polls: "

and then trying to use them as a basis for showing the election was wrong. Fcksake, Kookie - which is it? Polls have been unreliable since well before 2004 - triple counting votes not so much. And where was CalTech/ MIT voting project in 2016? Guess we should go back and validate those numbers too. I mean, if we're going to trust them for this election.

"Until a neutral. academic. thorough. statistical. investigation is carried out" but but but you said: "And no matter how many times you count the ballots forwards, backwards, and sideways, it won't tell you if something was done with them before you officially tallied them." so how would CalTech/ MIT determine ballots "had something done to them" (!) from a statistical investigation? Using known unreliable methods (polling)? Are you keeping up, or just thinking up your next lie?

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Monday, January 4, 2021 10:14 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Not racist. Probably true.
You are crazy, 6ix:

Donald Trump Admits Obama Born in U.S. After Years Pushing ‘Birther’ Conspiracy

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1) He only said that because he was pressured to say it.

2) Don't forget that Hillary Clinton started the Birther "conspiracy" too, retard.

I posted a video of Trump changing his racist story about Birtherism.
6ix, do have a video for either of your "facts" 1) or 2) ?

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Monday, January 4, 2021 10:15 AM

You've got an internet connection. Figure it out dummy.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Monday, January 4, 2021 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You've got an internet connection. Figure it out dummy.

There is NOT a video for your "facts" 1) or 2).
Your "facts" are only real in your crazy head, 6ix.

The epistemology of crazy people is to start a podcast of fake facts, then use the podcast as evidence "proving" the fake facts are real facts.

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Monday, January 4, 2021 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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6IXSTRINGJACK:

He's the first president this millennium that didn't start new wars with brown people for oil half a world away.

SECOND: Have you seen America's military in action? They are great at killing the wrong people but they lose war after war after war. Even fat stupid Trump knows it. If he'd gone to war, he would have lost, just like America's military has done again and again.
So, are you giving points to Trump for figuring out what seems to have evaded every other President, from Truman forward? Think before you post.

The central premise of this post is wrong. Trump has presided over at least two wars and lead another. One is the cyber war being waged against us by Russia, china and Iran to name three. He showed himself completely incapable of conducting a defense against it. In fact, his lack of interest in protecting America from it bordered on criminal.

Then there is the war being waged against us by the pandemic. Another war where Trump failed miserably. Again, his actions border on criminal. Hundreds of thousands of deaths that needn’t be.

Then there is the war he has been waging, and continues to wage, against democracy. He will lose, but the damage he has done these last four years is incalculable.

As for Americas war history. We put limitations on ourselves that others don't. Currently, there isn't a country on the planet that we could not march from one end to the other like a tsunami. Thank the stars Trump will be out of office before he figures that out.

T

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Monday, January 4, 2021 10:55 AM

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Trump accused Biden of sending “our youth to fight these crazy endless wars.”

“I’m not saying the military’s in love with me. The soldiers are,” Trump said. “The top people in the Pentagon probably aren’t because they want to do nothing but fight wars so that all of those wonderful companies that make the bombs and make the planes and make everything else stay happy.”

Trump, in December 2018, called U.S. defense spending levels “crazy,” but he’s also boasted that he’s responsible for $2.5 trillion in spending on military equipment.

Administration officials charged Trump with referring to fallen U.S. troops buried in France as “losers” and “suckers.” They also alleged the president questioned why any American would join the military, and demanded that wounded veterans be kept out of planned parades because “nobody wants to see that.”

https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2020/09/08/trump-says-pentagon-le
aders-are-under-defense-industrys-influence/

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Monday, January 4, 2021 11:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:

Administration officials charged Trump with referring to fallen U.S. troops buried in France as “losers” and “suckers.” They also alleged the president questioned why any American would join the military, and demanded that wounded veterans be kept out of planned parades because “nobody wants to see that.”

https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2020/09/08/trump-says-pentagon-le
aders-are-under-defense-industrys-influence/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

It should not be forgotten.

T

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Monday, January 4, 2021 12:38 PM

The Democrats love them some wars.

Maybe they can get all the Bushes in the Biden* cabinet.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Monday, January 4, 2021 12:45 PM

Speak of the Devil....

Looks like Dick Cheney's daughter is no fan of Trump.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/mccarthy-supports-el
ectoral-challenge-house-while-deputy-cheney-opposes

lol

You "Democrats" are just NeoCons and NeoCon puppets.

Have a nice day.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Monday, January 4, 2021 2:27 PM

REAVERFAN

Fuck off, Russian troll. I don't even read your stupidity anymore. You're just an idiot. Tell your boss Pooty to fuck off, too. Murderer.

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Monday, January 4, 2021 2:29 PM

REAVERFAN

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:

Administration officials charged Trump with referring to fallen U.S. troops buried in France as “losers” and “suckers.” They also alleged the president questioned why any American would join the military, and demanded that wounded veterans be kept out of planned parades because “nobody wants to see that.”

https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2020/09/08/trump-says-pentagon-le
aders-are-under-defense-industrys-influence/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

It should not be forgotten.

T

His most recent leaked attempt to bully Georgia into altering votes is criminal, too.

No punishment is as severe as what traitor Trump deserves.

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Monday, January 4, 2021 3:17 PM