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Originally posted by THG:
Ranting and raving claiming election fraud, while not presenting any evidence of it in 50 or more separate court cases so far, is not following the constitution. Improperly trying to throw out millions of votes is not following the constitution. It’s an attempt at a coup. What’s more disturbing though is how many support this idiot.

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They aren't all hopeless: Every democrat* who yelled and screamed about Hillary* being robbed was someone with no responsibility over election administration.

This is, needless to say, not a defense of the jackasses who kowtowed to Hillary* and the NYTimes every day to whip the democratic* rank and file into a frenzy over a “stolen” election. They did real damage, and they deserve to be shunned. That said, even direct, personal pressure from the Deep State failed to remove Trump through impeachment.

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1) By claiming the Russians stole the election, democrats* can swindle a tremendous amount of money from suckers for their political future

2) The psychological bonus for never-Trumpers: What the Science of Addiction Tells Us About democrats* (and SECOND, CC, THG, et al)

It turns out that your brain on grievances looks a lot like your brain on drugs.

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Russia did help Trump's bid for the White House in 2016, not "steal." You sound hysterical.

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The 2016 election was stolen. Got a nicer way to say that?
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“They had third party candidates boosted, particularly by Russian media. ... I was the candidate that they basically stole an election from,” Clinton said Monday on the New York Times podcast “Sway.”
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A former Alabama state senator claimed Sunday that Hillary Clinton won the 2016 presidential election, but the FBI and Russian government “stole” it from her.
“She won the election, and it was stolen from her,” said Hank Sanders, a lifelong Democrat ...
For the last two years, Clinton has repeatedly blamed the FBI, Russia, and a long list of other scapegoats for her election loss. "I was on the way to winning until a combination of Jim Comey’s letter on Oct. 28 and Russian WikiLeaks raised doubts ..."
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

And there in a nutshell, is the difference between Barack "CIA" Obama and Trump.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
And once again you failed to address the facts.

Meanwhile, it's a FACT that Hillary, the DNC (I keep wanting to call it the DUNCE), and the m$m repeatedly complained over many years that the 2016 election was 'stolen'. While in the background there were myriad attempts by Obama, the DNC, and the Deep State, with the willing participation of the m$m, to unseat a duly elected president.

And let me point out once again, that NEITHER party seems amenable to a thorough academic investigation of the election.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
And once again you failed to address the facts.

Meanwhile, it's a FACT that Hillary, the DNC (I keep wanting to call it the DUNCE), and the m$m repeatedly complained over many years that the 2016 election was 'stolen'. While in the background there were myriad attempts by Obama, the DNC, and the Deep State, with the willing participation of the m$m, to unseat a duly elected president.

And let me point out once again, that NEITHER party seems amenable to a thorough academic investigation of the election.

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1kiki, give some quotes where Hillary says what you claim she said.
I have an exact quote Trump made last night:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
GREATEST ELECTION FRAUD IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY!!!
11:26 PM · Dec 19, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340529063799246848

How does Trump know that?

I am really curious about who told Trump to say that because Trump has been told 575,000 times the exact opposite: cleanest election in history.
https://www.google.com/search?q=cleanest+election+in+history

It is NOT the political parties, it is up to graduate students and professors to do "a thorough academic investigation of the election". If any academics do the work, we will hear about in a few years, once it is completed. The work will only be believable if the professors are NOT sponsored, paid, encouraged, guided, supervised, whatever by politicians.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

HERE YA GO. IT'S RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO WAIT LONG.

AND HER AUDIENCE ... YOU?... JUST LAPS IT UP.

Yanno, I would think that a person as intelligent as you CLAIM to be would be arrased by such an obvious display of deep denial. Emotion over intelligence, as it were.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's cool. The Establishment stole it this time.

People are waking up. And the next four years are going to be tougher than most of them have ever experienced.

People tend not to do too much sleeping when they don't have food on the table and find they can't binge watch Netflix on an empty belly.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

HERE YA GO. IT'S RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO WAIT LONG.

AND HER AUDIENCE ... YOU?... JUST LAPS IT UP.

Yanno, I would think that a person as intelligent as you CLAIM to be would be arrased by such an obvious display of deep denial. Emotion over intelligence, as it were.

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Signym, I caught you and FOX News misleading by removing most of what Hillary said:

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It’s what comrade sig does second. She aggregates, combines false hoods with facts manipulating them to change the context of the information. It’s why she loves zerohedge. They do it for her. She's a troll.

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Originally posted by THG:

It’s what comrade sig does second. She aggregates, combines false hoods with facts manipulating them to change the context of the information. It’s why she loves zerohedge. They do it for her. She's a troll.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's cool. The Establishment stole it this time.

People are waking up. And the next four years are going to be tougher than most of them have ever experienced.

People tend not to do too much sleeping when they don't have food on the table and find they can't binge watch Netflix on an empty belly.

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Sure, 6ix, the lower 50% in wealth will rise up from their couches and easy chairs, fighting to their deaths a Revolution overthrowing the upper 50% in wealth. Liberty, Equality, Fraternity! Vive la révolution! (French) or Viva la revolución! (Spanish) or Make America Great Again! or Whatever!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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SIGNYM:

HERE YA GO. IT'S RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO WAIT LONG.

AND HER AUDIENCE ... YOU?... JUST LAPS IT UP.

Yanno, I would think that a person as intelligent as you CLAIM to be would be [embarrased] by such an obvious display of deep denial. Emotion over intelligence, as it were.

SECOND: Signym, I caught you and FOX News misleading by removing most of what Hillary said:

"Keep your eye on the whole landscape as it is moving forward and I think it is also critical to understand that as I’ve been telling candidates who have come to see me: ‘You can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you.’ That - that, my friends, has nothing to do with the economy does it? And so part of our challenge is to understand what it will take to put together not just the popular vote but the electoral college.”

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

So, her gripe is the ELECTORAL COLLEGE??? Because the vote was "stolen" from her by the Constitution??

Her claim of having the vote "stolen" from her is ridiculous. The difference between her claim and Trump's? Hers is phony, his is real.

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Hillary Clinton is still bitter about her presidential election loss in 2016.

“I was the candidate that they

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basically stole an election from,” Clinton said Monday on the New York Times podcast “Sway.”

“I was the candidate who won nearly three million more votes. So no matter how they cut it, it wasn’t the kind of win that people said, ‘OK, it wasn’t my candidate, but OK.’ This election is still front and center in people’s psyches. And people fight about it every day online, because there is a deep sense of unfairness and just dismissiveness toward his victory, and he knows it,” Clinton said.

Clinton blamed her loss in certain key states on former FBI Director James Comey’s letter Congress announcing the existence of emails under investigation. “I absolutely thought I was going to win. So did everybody else. I mean, I know people look back now and say, well, it wasn’t — we were going to win. We were absolutely going to win.”

Clinton also claimed that she was “born” for the presidency, explaining to podcast host Kara Swisher....

Her election loss, Clinton complained, was partially due to a disinformation campaign stemming from “vast right-wing conspiracy.”

“There were academic studies done afterward, lots of them, about why people ended up not voting for me, and it was shocking what they believed. I mean, the disinformation was incredibly pervasive,” Clinton said.

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Clinton also said that the fact that she is a woman also played a role in her loss.

“There is something deeply unsettling to a strata of American voters about a woman getting that close to being president,” Clinton.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

SHE ALSO BLAMES JAMES COMEY

Clinton blamed her loss in certain key states on former FBI Director James Comey’s letter Congress announcing the existence of emails under investigation. “I absolutely thought I was going to win. So did everybody else. I mean, I know people look back now and say, well, it wasn’t — we were going to win. We were absolutely going to win.”

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SIGNYM:
SHE ALSO BLAMES JAMES COMEY

Clinton blamed her loss in certain key states on former FBI Director James Comey’s letter Congress announcing the existence of emails under investigation. “I absolutely thought I was going to win. So did everybody else. I mean, I know people look back now and say, well, it wasn’t — we were going to win. We were absolutely going to win.”

SECONDARTE Comey accused Hillary of being a felon three time immediately before the election. If you don't think that had no effect on voters, you are nuts, Signym.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

NOW, COMPARE THIS TO HOW TRUMP WAS TREATED

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yes, I know ... taxes. That is your sole concern because it's prolly the ONLY way that you can tell yourself you're a good person: You pay your taxes.

First of all, I dispute your characterization of your POV. YOU participated in the RUSSIA!RUSSIA! hysteria on many occasions, gasping along with every "revelation" of Rachel Madcow, even stooping to libel both me and KIKI as "Russian trolls" when you know exactly who I am. You derided Trump and Trump voters endlessly as "racists". You claimed he was a rapist, and a swindler. You were CERTAIN he abused his powers, offering Ukraine a "quid pro quo" when the transcript clearly shows no such thing, while Joe Biden quite clearly, publicly, and on camera bragged about doing exactly that.

It's a little late to try and rewrite your posts, seeing as you have left clear and multiple evidence to the contrary. Are you lying to yourself? Or just to us?

But clearly, you don't care about truth, rule of law, Constitutional protections, democracy, politicized prosecutions, national production, trade imbalances, ecological destruction, honest business, racism, sexism, or any of that. The thing that you REALLY care about is hating "republicans" and you will sling any shit to further that hate.

You have done that, over and over, on just this page alone. It doesn't matter how many times you're proven wrong, or lying, you just keep on doing the same thing over and over.

So, done with you for now. But thanks for being a perfect example of a hate-filled, twisted person.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

So, to get back to the FACTS -

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Originally posted by second:
Is Trump Cracking Under the Weight of Losing?

Getting the boot from the White House is an undeniable ego blow for a man who has never admitted defeat.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/20/trump-white-house-lo
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The combination of an unprecedented rebuke meeting an uncommonly vulnerable ego has some people wondering if there is a chance that Trump’s unusual actions suggest something potentially more dire. Could he be on his way to a mental breakdown?

“He’s never been in a situation in which he has lost in a way he can’t escape from,” Mary Trump, his niece and the author of the fiercely critical and bestselling book about him and their family, told me. “We continue to wait for him to accept reality, for him to concede, and that is something he is not capable of doing,” added Bandy Lee, the forensic psychiatrist from Yale who’s spent the last four years trying to warn the world about Trump and the ways in which he’s disordered and dangerous. “Being a loser,” she said, for Trump is tantamount to “psychic death.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Why should Trump "admit" that he "lost" the election when the stats were so hinky, and there was so much evidence of fraud? He may have been defeated, but he didn't lose.

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SIGNYM:

Why should Trump "admit" that he "lost" the election when the stats were so hinky, and there was so much evidence of fraud? He may have been defeated, but he didn't lose.

SECOND The "stats" from the electoral college are very clear. The "evidence of fraud" has been brought to court and was unpersuasive to all judges. By declaring himself the winner, Trump is stirring a rebellion.

Trump didn't spend the weekend mustering an emergency response to the spiking pandemic or offering condolences to the families of victims of a disaster that his neglect has immeasurably worsened. He didn't work into the small hours pushing both sides in the Senate and House to overcome differences in line with his sworn duty to the American people.

Instead, he welcomed to the Oval Office Gen. Michael Flynn to discuss Flynn's idea for a declaration of martial law to overturn the election result. Trump's lawyers made a new appeal to the Supreme Court to invalidate millions of legally cast votes in Pennsylvania. On Twitter, he kept up a corrosive stream of lies about the election -- the kind that have already convinced a majority of Republican voters that the election was stolen.

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It’s what comrade sig does second. She aggregates, combines false hoods with facts manipulating them to change the context of the information. It’s why she loves zerohedge. They do it for her. She's a troll.

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In Texas, all Trump voters do it. A simplified example from a Trump voter/Exxon engineer I know in Baytown: "There are blizzards in the Northeast, which means there is no global warming." I'm sure that particular Texan knows how climate change actually works, but he has a clever and very fake justification to bitterly complain about Biden's $2 trillion for clean energy projects. The GOP Senators will use fake facts/justifications to stop dead Biden's plan and help Exxon. People like 1kiki will then complain that Democrats won't do anything about climate change. 1kiki and many others never take into account how the GOP can easily block change forever in the Senate without 1kiki acknowledging/admitting what the GOP did.
www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/politics/biden-climate-team-introductions/index
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Why should Trump "admit" that he "lost" the election when the stats were so hinky, and there was so much evidence of fraud? He may have been defeated, but he didn't lose.

SECOND The "stats" from the electoral college are very clear. The "evidence of fraud" has been brought to court and was unpersuasive to all judges. By declaring himself the winner, Trump is stirring a rebellion.


SECONDRATE: I used to, among other job responsibilities, evaluate our own data and OTHER lab data for QA.

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Me too comrade sig. I used to, among other job responsibilities, evaluate our own data and OTHER lab data for QA as well; go figure right?

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Also, I know something about "Chain of Custody" and I know for a fact there was NO SUCH THING on the mail-in-ballots.

So Trump is out. He WAS beaten, but he didn't lose.

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SIGNYM:

Also, I know something about "Chain of Custody" and I know for a fact there was NO SUCH THING on the mail-in-ballots.

So Trump is out. He WAS beaten, but he didn't lose.

SECONDRATE: There is no "Chain of Custody" for electronic voting machines, Signym. And if Trump keeps saying he won, his assassination can be a chapter in his biography. See "List of United States presidential assassination attempts and plots" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assas
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THUGR: Comrades sig and kiki want everyone to be distracted by what they post, and forget, that they are basing their arguments on false, no evidence (fake news) claims of election fraud. Personally, I’ll trust the courts across this country that say the same. If sig and kiki were doing anything but trolling they would agree with the courts as well.

I think it's time we start calling sig jack and kiki, comrades always wrong. What do ya say?

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I think it's time we start calling sig jack and kiki, comrades always wrong. What do ya say?

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:


And there in a nutshell, is the difference between Barack "CIA" Obama and Trump. Obama had the CIA - and, going further out through further in - the Five Eyes and the FBI - to do the dirty work for him.

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The one **I** wonder about is WISHI.

She keeps posting all these things that are supposedly true about the Russian language. Now, you couldn't go by me whether or not what she posts is meaningful, or even remotely accurate. But I DO wonder why she posts as if she knows so much about Russian.

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