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claims of 'stolen' elections - Hillary and the DNC wrote the playbook

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 5:30 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



This thread if for those whose memories don't go back 4 years, or even back a few months to Hillary's book rollout.


http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63921&p=2


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Originally posted by THG:
Ranting and raving claiming election fraud, while not presenting any evidence of it in 50 or more separate court cases so far, is not following the constitution. Improperly trying to throw out millions of votes is not following the constitution. It’s an attempt at a coup. What’s more disturbing though is how many support this idiot.

The same could be said about Hillary and your favorite boogeymen, the Russians.





http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63987&p=15


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They aren't all hopeless: Every democrat* who yelled and screamed about Hillary* being robbed was someone with no responsibility over election administration.

This is, needless to say, not a defense of the jackasses who kowtowed to Hillary* and the NYTimes every day to whip the democratic* rank and file into a frenzy over a “stolen” election. They did real damage, and they deserve to be shunned. That said, even direct, personal pressure from the Deep State failed to remove Trump through impeachment.

fify





http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62934&p=35


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1) By claiming the Russians stole the election, democrats* can swindle a tremendous amount of money from suckers for their political future

2) The psychological bonus for never-Trumpers: What the Science of Addiction Tells Us About democrats* (and SECOND, CC, THG, et al)

It turns out that your brain on grievances looks a lot like your brain on drugs.



fify

Democrats* wrote the playbook.





http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62934&p=35


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Russia did help Trump's bid for the White House in 2016, not "steal." You sound hysterical.

Am I 'hysterical' for ACCURATELY pointing out that people claimed 2016 was 'stolen' from Hillary?

Quote:

The 2016 election was stolen. Got a nicer way to say that?
WaPo

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“They had third party candidates boosted, particularly by Russian media. ... I was the candidate that they basically stole an election from,” Clinton said Monday on the New York Times podcast “Sway.”
NYTimes

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A former Alabama state senator claimed Sunday that Hillary Clinton won the 2016 presidential election, but the FBI and Russian government “stole” it from her.
“She won the election, and it was stolen from her,” said Hank Sanders, a lifelong Democrat ...
For the last two years, Clinton has repeatedly blamed the FBI, Russia, and a long list of other scapegoats for her election loss. "I was on the way to winning until a combination of Jim Comey’s letter on Oct. 28 and Russian WikiLeaks raised doubts ..."
ABC15


There are many, many pages of those kind of results.

So yes, democrats, liberaloids, the m$m, and even Hillary herself have claimed Russia 'stole' the election from her. And me pointing out that THAT'S WHAT THEY ACTUALLY CLAIMED, doesn't make me 'hysterical' when THAT'S WHAT THEY ACTUALLY CLAIMED.




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Saturday, December 19, 2020 6:27 PM

REAVERFAN


Kiki the Russian troll continues to display to the world how stupid he truly is. ^

Meanwhile Trump should follow his own advice.

Trump lost, bigly. Get over it.



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Saturday, December 19, 2020 6:39 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




I see you've repeated that post over a number of different threads.

You REALLY must be doing piecework with no QC over the quality! What's the average number you have to clock a day to stay employed?

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 8:03 PM

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On Saturday, Trump called for a “wild” and “big” protest in Washington, D.C. on Jan. 6, the date Congress is scheduled to meet to certify President-elect Joe Biden’s victory. “Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election,” Trump tweeted. He went on to call on Republicans to not recognize Biden as the winner.

I bet that the Republicans in Congress will stop listening to Trump after today's outbursts. I think they will certify Biden as the victor and Trump as crazy.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 8:15 PM

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During an appearance on the conservative Newsmax channel this week, Mr. Flynn pushed for Mr. Trump to impose martial law and deploy the military to “rerun” the election. At one point in the meeting on Friday, Mr. Trump asked about that idea.

The president of the United States asked his advisors about the feasibility of imposing martial law and having the Pentagon run a new election. In other words, staging a military coup. Sure, everyone at the table shot it down, because even Rudy Giuliani isn’t that far gone. But he asked! The president of the United States!

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/12/report-trump-asked-abou
t-imposing-martial-law-to-run-a-new-election
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 9:39 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




And there in a nutshell, is the difference between Barack "CIA" Obama and Trump. Obama had the CIA - and, going further out through further in - the Five Eyes and the FBI - to do the dirty work for him.

Obama has always been in favor of surveillance on everyone, and specifically using the CIA/ State Department to - say - propagandize the American public, foment 'color revolutions' overseas, start special "intelligence'-led military operations in foreign countries, LOVED prosecuting whistleblowers, sicced the NSA on every American's phone records and texts, snooped on phone conversations without warrants (per Snowden) and has the capacity to record all the content (and may have, and still be doing so) - and so on. He wanted to get all his dirty work, Constitutional or not, on the cheap and down low. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/03/18/291165247/report-ns
a-can-record-store-phone-conversations-of-whole-countries


And THEN he started a whole intelligence operation to defeat, remove, and/ or hamstring Trump - in 2016 and going forward. https://www.newsday.com/news/nation/donald-trump-william-barr-russia-1
.31508781


But hey! The US has been running CIA-led coups around the globe for decades. It's what they do.

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 9:44 PM

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Attorney Sidney Powell advising Trump to chart a scorched-earth course (NOT in Hillary's Playbook)

Trump and Powell met in the Oval Office Friday night, ABC News has confirmed, and were joined by Trump's former national security adviser, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, who has been publicly prodding Trump to take unprecedented steps to seize a second term -- including declaring martial law and ordering the military to oversee new elections in the battleground states that Trump lost.

Powell has also been among the most vocal of Trump's advisers to promote the idea that his 2020 election defeat by more than 7 million votes was actually a mirage, the result of an array of forces that had plotted to steal the election from him. A series of scathing court rulings rejected those claims, as did experts on voting technology.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fired-attorney-sidney-powell-back-advi
sing-trump-chart/story?id=74823842


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 9:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

And there in a nutshell, is the difference between Barack "CIA" Obama and Trump.

When will Trump lock up Obama? He best hurry or he won't be able! Oh, I forgot. Trump fired Bill Barr, who is in charge of such things, which means it is probably too late for Trump to act. I wonder if the temporary replacement for Barr could? That's assuming the temp knows how to arrest a former President using the technique of imprisoning him now and filing charges against Obama later. (That is NOT in Hillary's playbook.)

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 10:30 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



And once again you failed to address the facts.


If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 10:34 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Meanwhile, it's a FACT that Hillary, the DNC (I keep wanting to call it the DUNCE), and the m$m repeatedly complained over many years that the 2016 election was 'stolen'. While in the background there were myriad attempts by Obama, the DNC, and the Deep State, with the willing participation of the m$m, to unseat a duly elected president.

And let me point out once again, that NEITHER party seems amenable to a thorough academic investigation of the election.



If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 7:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
And once again you failed to address the facts.

Meanwhile, it's a FACT that Hillary, the DNC (I keep wanting to call it the DUNCE), and the m$m repeatedly complained over many years that the 2016 election was 'stolen'. While in the background there were myriad attempts by Obama, the DNC, and the Deep State, with the willing participation of the m$m, to unseat a duly elected president.

And let me point out once again, that NEITHER party seems amenable to a thorough academic investigation of the election.

1kiki, give some quotes where Hillary says what you claim she said.
I have an exact quote Trump made last night:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
GREATEST ELECTION FRAUD IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY!!!
11:26 PM · Dec 19, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340529063799246848

How does Trump know that?

I am really curious about who told Trump to say that because Trump has been told 575,000 times the exact opposite: cleanest election in history.
https://www.google.com/search?q=cleanest+election+in+history

It is NOT the political parties, it is up to graduate students and professors to do "a thorough academic investigation of the election". If any academics do the work, we will hear about in a few years, once it is completed. The work will only be believable if the professors are NOT sponsored, paid, encouraged, guided, supervised, whatever by politicians.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 9:04 AM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
And once again you failed to address the facts.

Meanwhile, it's a FACT that Hillary, the DNC (I keep wanting to call it the DUNCE), and the m$m repeatedly complained over many years that the 2016 election was 'stolen'. While in the background there were myriad attempts by Obama, the DNC, and the Deep State, with the willing participation of the m$m, to unseat a duly elected president.

And let me point out once again, that NEITHER party seems amenable to a thorough academic investigation of the election.

1kiki, give some quotes where Hillary says what you claim she said.
I have an exact quote Trump made last night:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
GREATEST ELECTION FRAUD IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY!!!
11:26 PM · Dec 19, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340529063799246848

How does Trump know that?

I am really curious about who told Trump to say that because Trump has been told 575,000 times the exact opposite: cleanest election in history.
https://www.google.com/search?q=cleanest+election+in+history

It is NOT the political parties, it is up to graduate students and professors to do "a thorough academic investigation of the election". If any academics do the work, we will hear about in a few years, once it is completed. The work will only be believable if the professors are NOT sponsored, paid, encouraged, guided, supervised, whatever by politicians.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



HERE YA GO. IT'S RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO WAIT LONG.

AND HER AUDIENCE ... YOU?... JUST LAPS IT UP.



Yanno, I would think that a person as intelligent as you CLAIM to be would be embarrased by such an obvious display of deep denial. Emotion over intelligence, as it were.

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 9:16 AM

THG


Trump raised the idea of imposing martial law to overturn the election in a White House meeting

President Donald Trump in a White House meeting Friday touted the idea of imposing martial law to overturn the election result, reported The New York Times and Axios.

The idea had first been touted by Michael Flynn, Trump's former national security advisor, who was reportedly present in the meeting.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-raised-the-idea-of-impos
ing-martial-law-to-overturn-the-election-in-a-white-house-meeting-according-to-reports/ar-BB1c4ZG7?ocid=msedgntp


Can you say coup attempt? Can you say not going to happen? As for Hillary, she was speaking about outside influences, Russia, and the FBI and other intel agencies backed her up. In other words, she was right. It was a different situation than we are dealing with now. This election was clean according to Trumps own hand picked FBI and Justice Department heads. This includes his hand picked man to oversee the elections.

30 days and Trumps gone.

T


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Sunday, December 20, 2020 9:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

HERE YA GO. IT'S RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO WAIT LONG.

AND HER AUDIENCE ... YOU?... JUST LAPS IT UP.

Yanno, I would think that a person as intelligent as you CLAIM to be would be arrased by such an obvious display of deep denial. Emotion over intelligence, as it were.

Signym, I caught you and FOX News misleading by removing most of what Hillary said:

"Keep your eye on the whole landscape as it is moving forward and I think it is also critical to understand that as I’ve been telling candidates who have come to see me: ‘You can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you.’ That - that, my friends, has nothing to do with the economy does it? And so part of our challenge is to understand what it will take to put together not just the popular vote but the electoral college.”

https://twitter.com/bigfootmeds/status/1124941314519232512

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 9:54 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It's cool. The Establishment stole it this time.

People are waking up. And the next four years are going to be tougher than most of them have ever experienced.

People tend not to do too much sleeping when they don't have food on the table and find they can't binge watch Netflix on an empty belly.



What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 10:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's cool. The Establishment stole it this time.

People are waking up. And the next four years are going to be tougher than most of them have ever experienced.

People tend not to do too much sleeping when they don't have food on the table and find they can't binge watch Netflix on an empty belly.

Sure, 6ix, the lower 50% in wealth will rise up from their couches and easy chairs, fighting to their deaths a Revolution overthrowing the upper 50% in wealth. Liberty, Equality, Fraternity! Vive la révolution! (French) or Viva la revolución! (Spanish) or Make America Great Again! or Whatever!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 10:59 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

HERE YA GO. IT'S RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO WAIT LONG.

AND HER AUDIENCE ... YOU?... JUST LAPS IT UP.

Yanno, I would think that a person as intelligent as you CLAIM to be would be arrased by such an obvious display of deep denial. Emotion over intelligence, as it were.

Signym, I caught you and FOX News misleading by removing most of what Hillary said:




It’s what comrade sig does second. She aggregates, combines false hoods with facts manipulating them to change the context of the information. It’s why she loves zerohedge. They do it for her. She's a troll.

T


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Sunday, December 20, 2020 11:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

It’s what comrade sig does second. She aggregates, combines false hoods with facts manipulating them to change the context of the information. It’s why she loves zerohedge. They do it for her. She's a troll.

In Texas, all Trump voters do it. A simplified example from a Trump voter/Exxon engineer I know in Baytown: "There are blizzards in the Northeast, which means there is no global warming." I'm sure that particular Texan knows how climate change actually works, but he has a clever and very fake justification to bitterly complain about Biden's $2 trillion for clean energy projects. The GOP Senators will use fake facts/justifications to stop dead Biden's plan and help Exxon. People like 1kiki will then complain that Democrats won't do anything about climate change. 1kiki and many others never take into account how the GOP can easily block change forever in the Senate without 1kiki acknowledging/admitting what the GOP did.
www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/politics/biden-climate-team-introductions/index
.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 11:56 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's cool. The Establishment stole it this time.

People are waking up. And the next four years are going to be tougher than most of them have ever experienced.

People tend not to do too much sleeping when they don't have food on the table and find they can't binge watch Netflix on an empty belly.

Sure, 6ix, the lower 50% in wealth will rise up from their couches and easy chairs, fighting to their deaths a Revolution overthrowing the upper 50% in wealth. Liberty, Equality, Fraternity! Vive la révolution! (French) or Viva la revolución! (Spanish) or Make America Great Again! or Whatever!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




I'm cool either way.



The people who voted for Biden* that are about to lose their houses and go hungry aren't going to be helped. That's going to make them re-think their choices.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 12:08 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIGNYM:

HERE YA GO. IT'S RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO WAIT LONG.

AND HER AUDIENCE ... YOU?... JUST LAPS IT UP.

Yanno, I would think that a person as intelligent as you CLAIM to be would be [embarrased] by such an obvious display of deep denial. Emotion over intelligence, as it were.

SECOND: Signym, I caught you and FOX News misleading by removing most of what Hillary said:

"Keep your eye on the whole landscape as it is moving forward and I think it is also critical to understand that as I’ve been telling candidates who have come to see me: ‘You can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you.’ That - that, my friends, has nothing to do with the economy does it? And so part of our challenge is to understand what it will take to put together not just the popular vote but the electoral college.”



Well, if you include her whole reasoning, she sounds even more unhinged.
Her gripe is the ELECTORAL COLLEGE. And she's complaining because the vote was "stolen" from her by the Constitution??

Her claim of having the vote "stolen" from her is ridiculous. The difference between her claim and Trump's? Hers is phony, his is real.

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 12:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

So, her gripe is the ELECTORAL COLLEGE??? Because the vote was "stolen" from her by the Constitution??

Her claim of having the vote "stolen" from her is ridiculous. The difference between her claim and Trump's? Hers is phony, his is real.

Trump has been in courts 50 times and lost because his claim is NOT real. There was the equivalent of the electoral college for US Senators, where each state legislature preformed the same function as the electoral college, until the 17th amendment passed.
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Direct_El
ection_Senators.htm


The electoral college has a history of being the second stupidest portion of the Constitution, after slavery, but it gives advantage to select group of people, as did slavery in the Constitution. Slavery got kicked out of the Constitution, but only after a million people died. How many have to die to be rid of the electoral college? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 12:25 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SHE ALSO BLAMES JAMES COMEY

Quote:

Hillary Clinton is still bitter about her presidential election loss in 2016.

“I was the candidate that they

Who is "THEY"? The voters? The Electoral College? The Russians? When you start blaming "them" and "they", you're not talking about some bloodless Constitutional procedure, you're tlaking about actual people. Hillary blames "they", whoever "they" are
Quote:

basically stole an election from,” Clinton said Monday on the New York Times podcast “Sway.”

“I was the candidate who won nearly three million more votes. So no matter how they cut it, it wasn’t the kind of win that people said, ‘OK, it wasn’t my candidate, but OK.’ This election is still front and center in people’s psyches. And people fight about it every day online, because there is a deep sense of unfairness and just dismissiveness toward his victory, and he knows it,” Clinton said.

Clinton blamed her loss in certain key states on former FBI Director James Comey’s letter Congress announcing the existence of emails under investigation. “I absolutely thought I was going to win. So did everybody else. I mean, I know people look back now and say, well, it wasn’t — we were going to win. We were absolutely going to win.”

Clinton also claimed that she was “born” for the presidency, explaining to podcast host Kara Swisher....

Her election loss, Clinton complained, was partially due to a disinformation campaign stemming from “vast right-wing conspiracy.”

“There were academic studies done afterward, lots of them, about why people ended up not voting for me, and it was shocking what they believed. I mean, the disinformation was incredibly pervasive,” Clinton said.

So, she blames people who believed she was a corrupt war-monger. Seems about right to me

Quote:

Clinton also said that the fact that she is a woman also played a role in her loss.

“There is something deeply unsettling to a strata of American voters about a woman getting that close to being president,” Clinton.

And let's not forget all of those sexists out there!


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Sunday, December 20, 2020 12:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

SHE ALSO BLAMES JAMES COMEY

Clinton blamed her loss in certain key states on former FBI Director James Comey’s letter Congress announcing the existence of emails under investigation. “I absolutely thought I was going to win. So did everybody else. I mean, I know people look back now and say, well, it wasn’t — we were going to win. We were absolutely going to win.”

Comey accused Hillary of being a felon three time immediately before the election. If you don't think that had effect on voters, you are nuts, Signym.

The Comey Letter Probably Cost Clinton The Election
So why won’t the media admit as much?
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-comey-letter-probably-cost-cl
inton-the-election
/

Clinton’s decision to give paid speeches to investment banks, or her messaging on pocket-book issues, or the role that her gender played in the campaign — is hard to measure. The impact of Comey’s letter is comparatively easy to quantify, by contrast. At a minimum, its impact might have been only a percentage point or so. Still, because Clinton lost Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by less than 1 point, the letter was probably enough to change the outcome of the Electoral College.

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 12:51 PM

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Quote:

SIGNYM:
SHE ALSO BLAMES JAMES COMEY

Clinton blamed her loss in certain key states on former FBI Director James Comey’s letter Congress announcing the existence of emails under investigation. “I absolutely thought I was going to win. So did everybody else. I mean, I know people look back now and say, well, it wasn’t — we were going to win. We were absolutely going to win.”

SECONDARTE Comey accused Hillary of being a felon three time immediately before the election. If you don't think that had no effect on voters, you are nuts, Signym.

I've downrated you back to SECONDRATE because of your usual skewed memory or honesty. First of all, that's not what happened.

In JULY, Comey announced that they would NOT recommend criminal charges against Hillary for her use of a private email server.
Them he announced that they found additional emails on Anthony Weiner's laptop. Weiner was Huma Abdin's husband, and she was a close Clinton aide.
THEN he announced that there was no new information on the lapop, closing the investigation.

IMHO, looking into Hillary's use of a private email server for State Department business was a legitimate investigation. SIMPLY KNOWING THAT SHE HAS 33,000 EMAILS ON A PRIVATE SERVER WAS ENOUGH TO TAINT HER, IN MY MIND, AND WHEN SHE HAD THEM DESTROYED AFTER THEY WERE SUBPOENAED WAS JUST ANOTHER NAIL IN THE COFFIN. Again, IMHO, Clinton should have been indicted for obstruction of justice when her emails were destroyed AFTER having been subpoenaed. But that's just me. COMEY BASICALLY ABSOLVED CLINTON OF WRONGDOING.

NOW, COMPARE THIS TO HOW TRUMP WAS TREATED

During Trump's ENTIRE campaign and Presidency, he was constantly hounded by false allegations that he or his campaign "colluded" with Russians, that he was Putin's cock-holter, sock puppet, what-have-you. Salacious "details" (fictional) were CONSTANTLY "leaked" to the press by CIA, State Department, and FBI personnel in a coordinate campaign to delegitimize his authority.

Hillary, sad to say, sounds like an entitled, whiny byatch. NOT strong woman that I could point to as a role model, but a sneaky, war-mongering, entitled grifter who had a history of detroying/ hiding evidence (twice), who was associatd with such an unfortunate string of murders, deaths and suicides by anyone who might testify gainst them, whose husband appears to have partaken of Epstein's island of girls (multiple times), who advocated the the destruction of Libya and was responsible for Benghazi (trying to bame it on a spontaneous reaction to some B-grade movie) and who STILL can't take responsibility for losing.

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 1:23 PM

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NOW, COMPARE THIS TO HOW TRUMP WAS TREATED

The issue that I care about is Trump's income taxes. He hasn't paid in 20 years. He hasn't paid while in the White House. If he isn't forced to pay before he is dead, the IRS might just as well stop bothering to collect taxes from the wealthy. In that case, Congress needs to decide if its official policy will be that the wealthy don't pay. If it is NOT policy, then Congress should force the IRS to brutally collect from Trump, his children, and similar scofflaws. There are almost 7 million articles giving details of Trump's tax cheating. Maybe the IRS needs to read a few of them for inspiration to do their job?
https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+tax+cheating

When there are air-crashes, the FAA hears about it on the news and then investigates. Trump's taxes have been the equalent of a major air-crash every April 15th for decades in the news. When is the IRS going to the crash site and look at the wreckage and arrest the stinking drunk pilot, Donald J Trump?

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 2:00 PM

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Yes, I know ... taxes. That is your sole concern because it's prolly the ONLY way that you can tell yourself you're a good person: You pay your taxes.

First of all, I dispute your characterization of your POV. YOU participated in the RUSSIA!RUSSIA! hysteria on many occasions, gasping along with every "revelation" of Rachel Madcow, even stooping to libel both me and KIKI as "Russian trolls" when you know exactly who I am. You derided Trump and Trump voters endlessly as "racists". You claimed he was a rapist, and a swindler. You were CERTAIN he abused his powers, offering Ukraine a "quid pro quo" when the transcript clearly shows no such thing, while Joe Biden quite clearly, publicly, and on camera bragged about doing exactly that.

It's a little late to try and rewrite your posts, seeing as you have left clear and multiple evidence to the contrary. Are you lying to yourself? Or just to us?

But clearly, you don't care about truth, rule of law, Constitutional protections, democracy, politicized prosecutions, national production, trade imbalances, ecological destruction, honest business, racism, sexism, or any of that. The thing that you REALLY care about is hating "republicans" and you will sling any shit to further that hate.

You have done that, over and over, on just this page alone. It doesn't matter how many times you're proven wrong, or lying, you just keep on doing the same thing over and over.

So, done with you for now. But thanks for being a perfect example of a hate-filled, twisted person.

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 4:59 PM

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So, to get back to the FACTS - it's true that Hillary* and the DNC* repeatedly claimed that the 2016 was 'stolen' (not just allegorically 'stolen', but literally using that word stolen, stole, steal, etc), and that that was dutifully carried, amplified, and opined by the m$m, to politicize the democratic* base.


If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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Monday, December 21, 2020 8:01 AM

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Quote:

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Yes, I know ... taxes. That is your sole concern because it's prolly the ONLY way that you can tell yourself you're a good person: You pay your taxes.

First of all, I dispute your characterization of your POV. YOU participated in the RUSSIA!RUSSIA! hysteria on many occasions, gasping along with every "revelation" of Rachel Madcow, even stooping to libel both me and KIKI as "Russian trolls" when you know exactly who I am. You derided Trump and Trump voters endlessly as "racists". You claimed he was a rapist, and a swindler. You were CERTAIN he abused his powers, offering Ukraine a "quid pro quo" when the transcript clearly shows no such thing, while Joe Biden quite clearly, publicly, and on camera bragged about doing exactly that.

It's a little late to try and rewrite your posts, seeing as you have left clear and multiple evidence to the contrary. Are you lying to yourself? Or just to us?

But clearly, you don't care about truth, rule of law, Constitutional protections, democracy, politicized prosecutions, national production, trade imbalances, ecological destruction, honest business, racism, sexism, or any of that. The thing that you REALLY care about is hating "republicans" and you will sling any shit to further that hate.

You have done that, over and over, on just this page alone. It doesn't matter how many times you're proven wrong, or lying, you just keep on doing the same thing over and over.

So, done with you for now. But thanks for being a perfect example of a hate-filled, twisted person.

Tax cheating is the one thing Trump cannot pardon himself for. He will still have to pay those taxes. There is nothing that can be done in a court room about Trump's criminal negligent of a pandemic, nothing to done about Trump lying about the election, but taxes are different.

The presidential election wasn’t close. Joe Biden won. His Electoral College victory was larger than either of George W. Bush’s.

Yet, Donald Trump still refuses to concede. The soon-to-be-ex-president tried to pressure Republican legislators to overturn the election results in the states where Biden’s margin of victory was narrow. They rebuffed him. His legal team filed 59 suits to subvert the popular will — and lost every one of them. The president has even tried to enlist the help of the Supreme Court, which pointedly ignored him.

All of these strategies have failed. Despite many accusations of fraud, the president and his party have been unable to produce even one piece of credible evidence. Wherever recounts took place — two counties in Wisconsin, statewide in Georgia three times — they confirmed Biden’s victory.

Trump’s latest plan is to skip the inauguration on January 20, 2021 and hold a rally in Florida to announce his intention to run again in 2024.

Trump’s sore-loser performance is pathetic. But the denialism embraced by the Republican Party is far more disgraceful, since it represents the failing of an entire institution as opposed to the psychopathy of a single individual. Worse, this electoral denialism is just one of several large-scale delusions that threaten to undermine democracy, tear apart the country, and compromise efforts to address global scourges like COVID-19 and climate change.

Donald Trump has always been a lose-lose kind of guy. His bankruptcies — financial, moral, and otherwise — have always translated into catastrophe for everyone else as well. Now, in losing the 2020 election, he is determined to do whatever he can to burn down the house.

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Monday, December 21, 2020 8:16 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

So, to get back to the FACTS -

First thing Trump did this morning was lie about the election:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Big news coming out of Pennsylvania. Very big illegal ballot drop that cannot be accounted for. Rigged Election!
6:24 AM · Dec 21, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340996686257254403

1kiki, find the evidence for this "Very big illegal ballot drop". Trump didn't point to any evidence. Maybe you can. If you can't, then it is all in Trump's imagination.

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Monday, December 21, 2020 8:31 AM

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I found evidence . . . that Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani will lose another case:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-court/trump-camp
aign-will-again-ask-u-s-high-court-to-upend-election-results-idUSKBN28U0UJ


The petition is “frivolous”, said Joshua Douglas, an election law professor. “The Court will shut it down quickly.”

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Monday, December 21, 2020 8:40 AM

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Is Trump Cracking Under the Weight of Losing?

Getting the boot from the White House is an undeniable ego blow for a man who has never admitted defeat.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/20/trump-white-house-lo
sing-448903


The combination of an unprecedented rebuke meeting an uncommonly vulnerable ego has some people wondering if there is a chance that Trump’s unusual actions suggest something potentially more dire. Could he be on his way to a mental breakdown?

“He’s never been in a situation in which he has lost in a way he can’t escape from,” Mary Trump, his niece and the author of the fiercely critical and bestselling book about him and their family, told me. “We continue to wait for him to accept reality, for him to concede, and that is something he is not capable of doing,” added Bandy Lee, the forensic psychiatrist from Yale who’s spent the last four years trying to warn the world about Trump and the ways in which he’s disordered and dangerous. “Being a loser,” she said, for Trump is tantamount to “psychic death.”

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Monday, December 21, 2020 9:46 AM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Is Trump Cracking Under the Weight of Losing?

Getting the boot from the White House is an undeniable ego blow for a man who has never admitted defeat.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/20/trump-white-house-lo
sing-448903


The combination of an unprecedented rebuke meeting an uncommonly vulnerable ego has some people wondering if there is a chance that Trump’s unusual actions suggest something potentially more dire. Could he be on his way to a mental breakdown?

“He’s never been in a situation in which he has lost in a way he can’t escape from,” Mary Trump, his niece and the author of the fiercely critical and bestselling book about him and their family, told me. “We continue to wait for him to accept reality, for him to concede, and that is something he is not capable of doing,” added Bandy Lee, the forensic psychiatrist from Yale who’s spent the last four years trying to warn the world about Trump and the ways in which he’s disordered and dangerous. “Being a loser,” she said, for Trump is tantamount to “psychic death.”

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Where have I hears this before???

It's not like YOU haven't posted this, or some varation of it, at least a dozen times by now, praying for some kind of article 25 end to your nightmare. And guess what? It wasn't true then, and it's not true now.

YAWN!

Why should Trump "admit" that he "lost" the election when the stats were so hinky, and there was so much evidence of fraud? He may have been defeated, but he didn't lose.

But then, with Hillary, it's a different matter. She lost the electoral college fair and square. a) She didn't keep her eye on the ball, and was lulled into complacency by "popular vote" advantage when any consultant worth his or her salt should have known that it's not the popular vote that counts and b) People just didn't like her all that much. Her negatives were as high as her positives. REAL progressives hated her neocon warmongering, patriots hated her globalist agenda, and social conservatives hated her identitarian virtue-signalling. Plus, she came across as a snaky, greedy, inauthentic, corrupt politician.

With her and her stolen election claims, blaming and ever-shifting cast of "they" and "them" it came across as



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Monday, December 21, 2020 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Why should Trump "admit" that he "lost" the election when the stats were so hinky, and there was so much evidence of fraud? He may have been defeated, but he didn't lose.

The "stats" from the electoral college are very clear. The "evidence of fraud" has been brought to court and was unpersuasive to all judges. By declaring himself the winner, Trump is stirring a rebellion.

Trump didn't spend the weekend mustering an emergency response to the spiking pandemic or offering condolences to the families of victims of a disaster that his neglect has immeasurably worsened. He didn't work into the small hours pushing both sides in the Senate and House to overcome differences in line with his sworn duty to the American people.

Instead, he welcomed to the Oval Office Gen. Michael Flynn to discuss Flynn's idea for a declaration of martial law to overturn the election result. Trump's lawyers made a new appeal to the Supreme Court to invalidate millions of legally cast votes in Pennsylvania. On Twitter, he kept up a corrosive stream of lies about the election -- the kind that have already convinced a majority of Republican voters that the election was stolen.

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Monday, December 21, 2020 12:29 PM

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Fake Election.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Monday, December 21, 2020 1:04 PM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIGNYM:

Why should Trump "admit" that he "lost" the election when the stats were so hinky, and there was so much evidence of fraud? He may have been defeated, but he didn't lose.

SECOND The "stats" from the electoral college are very clear. The "evidence of fraud" has been brought to court and was unpersuasive to all judges. By declaring himself the winner, Trump is stirring a rebellion.

Trump didn't spend the weekend mustering an emergency response to the spiking pandemic or offering condolences to the families of victims of a disaster that his neglect has immeasurably worsened. He didn't work into the small hours pushing both sides in the Senate and House to overcome differences in line with his sworn duty to the American people.

Instead, he welcomed to the Oval Office Gen. Michael Flynn to discuss Flynn's idea for a declaration of martial law to overturn the election result. Trump's lawyers made a new appeal to the Supreme Court to invalidate millions of legally cast votes in Pennsylvania. On Twitter, he kept up a corrosive stream of lies about the election -- the kind that have already convinced a majority of Republican voters that the election was stolen.



SECONDRATE: I used to, among other job responsibilities, evaluate our own data and OTHER lab data for QA. Large. complex data sets which -in some cases- I had no idea how they were generated except a brief description of the procedure used. Sometimes it was an entire packet of raw and final data. And I could ferret out whether there was a fundamental flaw in the data, or whether it was sound and could be relied on. In my day, I have found MANY fundamentally-flawed data sets. (I also found many robust and relable data sets.) For example, I was once given a data set consisting of multiple tests of FCCU emissions from multiple refineries (I'm sure you know what an FCCU is) each of which had been analyzed for over a dozen different analytes, and I shocked the shit out of the consortium of FCCU owners and tchnical experts when I told them that the samples had been analyzed by three different labs and that one of the labs had fucked up one of the analyses.

So I know whereof I speak when I say the data is hinky. I don't give a rat's patooties what "judges" say because (1) they're not in the business of evaluating data and (2) their decisions are partly legalistic and partly political: never a good combination when you want to arrive at the truth.

Also, I know something about "Chain of Custody" and I know for a fact there was NO SUCH THING on the mail-in-ballots.

So Trump is out. He WAS beaten, but he didn't lose.

All that means to me is that the JUDICIAL avenue for reform is blocked, and now it has to come to raw populist power: If the good people of WI, MN, PA, GA etc want clean elections they have to PUSH for them, and that means pushing their governors, legislatures, and state secretaries for clear, robust, auditable, defensible procedures.

And then we go to round 2 in 2022, and round 3 in 2024.

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Monday, December 21, 2020 1:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

It’s what comrade sig does second. She aggregates, combines false hoods with facts manipulating them to change the context of the information. It’s why she loves zerohedge. They do it for her. She's a troll.

In Texas, all Trump voters do it. A simplified example from a Trump voter/Exxon engineer I know in Baytown: "There are blizzards in the Northeast, which means there is no global warming." I'm sure that particular Texan knows how climate change actually works, but he has a clever and very fake justification to bitterly complain about Biden's $2 trillion for clean energy projects. The GOP Senators will use fake facts/justifications to stop dead Biden's plan and help Exxon. People like 1kiki will then complain that Democrats won't do anything about climate change. 1kiki and many others never take into account how the GOP can easily block change forever in the Senate without 1kiki acknowledging/admitting what the GOP did.
www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/politics/biden-climate-team-introductions/index
.html


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T



Fox Host Lou Dobbs Forced to Debunk His Own Fraud Claims Under Threat of Legal Action


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Monday, December 21, 2020 1:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

SIGNYM:

Why should Trump "admit" that he "lost" the election when the stats were so hinky, and there was so much evidence of fraud? He may have been defeated, but he didn't lose.

SECOND The "stats" from the electoral college are very clear. The "evidence of fraud" has been brought to court and was unpersuasive to all judges. By declaring himself the winner, Trump is stirring a rebellion.


SECONDRATE: I used to, among other job responsibilities, evaluate our own data and OTHER lab data for QA.



Me too comrade sig. I used to, among other job responsibilities, evaluate our own data and OTHER lab data for QA as well; go figure right?

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Monday, December 21, 2020 1:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Also, I know something about "Chain of Custody" and I know for a fact there was NO SUCH THING on the mail-in-ballots.

So Trump is out. He WAS beaten, but he didn't lose.

There is no "Chain of Custody" for electronic voting machines, Signym. And if Trump keeps saying he won, his assassination can be a chapter in his biography. See "List of United States presidential assassination attempts and plots" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assas
sination_attempts_and_plots


"Death of Benito Mussolini"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Benito_Mussolini
Loudmouth and ineffectual Trump has been compared to loudmouth and ineffectual Mussolini, Signym.

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Monday, December 21, 2020 1:56 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




But voting can and SHOULD be auditable - see Mitofsky report.



If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Quote:

SIGNYM:

Also, I know something about "Chain of Custody" and I know for a fact there was NO SUCH THING on the mail-in-ballots.

So Trump is out. He WAS beaten, but he didn't lose.

SECONDRATE: There is no "Chain of Custody" for electronic voting machines, Signym. And if Trump keeps saying he won, his assassination can be a chapter in his biography. See "List of United States presidential assassination attempts and plots" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assas
sination_attempts_and_plots



BUT THERE SHOULD BE. SECONDRATE, you yourself must be familiar with the various electronic gages and recording devices in a modern chemical plant or refinery or petrochemical plnat.

And data ... critical data, from pharmaceutical analyses to hospital stat labs record electronic data ALL OF THE TIME. Are you saying that it is impossible to make this data accurate and auditable? Because, I assure you, many agencies have spent many hours figuring out how to do this. The FDA has come up with a pretty complete procedure on how to make it so, which I have spent a fair bit of time implementing in my section of the lab, and talking over with our prosecutors.

But you're right ... it's not easy to make it sabotage-proof. That's why I think we need

PICTURE ID AT THE POLLS
HAND MARKED BALLOTS
HAND-COUNTED, IN PUBLIC

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Monday, December 21, 2020 2:58 PM

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Comrades sig and kiki want everyone to be distracted by what they post, and forget, that they are basing their arguments on false, no evidence (fake news) claims of election fraud. Personally, I’ll trust the courts across this country that say the same. If sig and kiki were doing anything but trolling they would agree with the courts as well.

I think it's time we start calling sig jack and kiki, comrades always wrong. What do ya say?


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Quote:

THUGR: Comrades sig and kiki want everyone to be distracted by what they post, and forget, that they are basing their arguments on false, no evidence (fake news) claims of election fraud. Personally, I’ll trust the courts across this country that say the same. If sig and kiki were doing anything but trolling they would agree with the courts as well.

I think it's time we start calling sig jack and kiki, comrades always wrong. What do ya say?



CCTV footage and hundreds of affidavits count as "evidence". There is more actual evidence about this election than there ever was about Ruusiagate. Get real.


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Monday, December 21, 2020 3:16 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

I think it's time we start calling sig jack and kiki, comrades always wrong. What do ya say?
START calling us comrades? Aren't you about 6 years too late to notice what you've been doing all this time?



If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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Monday, December 21, 2020 3:21 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



MEANWHILE - indeed DEMOCRATS* wrote the playbook on calling elections 'stolen'. And working to unseat a duly elected president.

There can be literally no disagreement with that, unless of course you want to disagree with documented facts. In which case, say buh-bye to reality!

If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Monday, December 21, 2020 3:40 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Ted should just be ignored all the time. His posts are completely irrelevant, and he's just barely intelligent enough to breath without an external device.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Monday, December 21, 2020 3:44 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


THUGR keeps using the honorific "comrade" so comfortably I'm beginning to think HE'S the "comrade" here.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Monday, December 21, 2020 3:47 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



The one **I** wonder about is WISHI.

She keeps posting all these things that are supposedly true about the Russian language. Now, you couldn't go by me whether or not what she posts is meaningful, or even remotely accurate. But I DO wonder why she posts as if she knows so much about Russian.


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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 9:18 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:


And there in a nutshell, is the difference between Barack "CIA" Obama and Trump. Obama had the CIA - and, going further out through further in - the Five Eyes and the FBI - to do the dirty work for him.




T



kiki you're a nut job.


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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 9:22 AM

THG


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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 9:33 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

The one **I** wonder about is WISHI.

She keeps posting all these things that are supposedly true about the Russian language. Now, you couldn't go by me whether or not what she posts is meaningful, or even remotely accurate. But I DO wonder why she posts as if she knows so much about Russian.




She knows as much about Russian language as she does about "cut and paste hacks".

And Second is rich too.



What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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