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Like I said, F*** Russia

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Thursday, July 16, 2020 9:30 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Epstein didn't kill himself.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, July 19, 2020 5:48 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Epstein didn't kill himself.




I know, everyone knows...Trump had him killed.




You know it's interesting times in Russia when people line up to defend the guy that is only accused of killing JUST A FEW PEOPLE...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8536651/Anti-Putin-protesters
-streets-Russian-town-bordering-China-arrest-governor.html



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Sunday, July 19, 2020 8:20 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Pretty sure you meant the Clintons had him killed.

Maybe the "royal" family.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, July 19, 2020 9:14 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yep, Bill and Hillary had a lot more contact with Epstein than Trump. WISHY seems to be permanently confused on the issue.

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Sunday, July 19, 2020 9:15 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


BTW, was there ever a point to this thread?

Seems like a few somebodies got all huffy about an event that never happened.

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Sunday, July 19, 2020 9:31 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yep, Bill and Hillary had a lot more contact with Epstein than Trump. WISHY seems to be permanently confused on the issue.





lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 20, 2020 2:06 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Pretty sure you meant the Clintons had him killed.

Maybe the "royal" family.




Oblivious, as always.

The judge presiding over the Deutsche Bank and Epstein case just had her family taken out.

You know who was up to their neck in Deutsche Bank money, moron??

Hint: It ain't the Clintons...


It's your orange god, Chumpsky

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Monday, July 20, 2020 2:08 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
BTW, was there ever a point to this thread?

Seems like a few somebodies got all huffy about an event that never happened.




Yeah, it was to give you another Russia thread to downplay and marginalize.

Gotta earn them Rubles somehow....

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Monday, July 20, 2020 2:35 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
BTW, was there ever a point to this thread?

Seems like a few somebodies got all huffy about an event that never happened.




Yeah, it was to give you another Russia thread to downplay and marginalize.

Gotta earn them Rubles somehow....



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Monday, July 20, 2020 3:04 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Do you know what your problem is, WISHY? You believe the lamestream media. Despite have been lied to multiple times, you remain as gullible and trusting as the first time you were ever lied to, or the tenth.

Do you reacll WHICH publisher first printed this story?

As I recall, it was the NYT.

Here is what PETER STRZOK had to say about the NYT's published "news" about the so-called RUSSIA!RUSSIA! hysteria early on in the Trump administration, just months after Trump took office, when the NYT was publishing articles about all of the "contacts" between the various members of the Trump team and Russia:

Remember, this is ANTI-TRUMP PETER STRZOK OF THE FBI, WHO WAS ACTIVELY WOKRING TO DEPOSE TRUMP FROM OFFICE WITH FAKE CHARGES OF COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA, AND THESE ARE HIS NOTES FROM THAT TIME

Quote:

STRZOK
"This [NYT] statement is misleading and inaccurate as written. We have not seen evidence of any individuals in contact with Russians (both Governmental and non-Governmental"

"There is no known intel affiliation, and little if any [Government of Russia] affiliation[.] FBI investigation has shown past contact between [Trump campaign volunteer Carter] Page and the SVR [Service of the Russian Federation], but not during his association with the Trump campaign."

"We are unaware of any calls with any Russian government official in which Manafort was a party."

"We do not yet have detailed [Trump campaign] banking records."

"Again, we are unaware of ANY Trump advisers engaging in conversations with Russian intel officials" and "Our coverage has not revealed contact between Russian intelligence officers and the Trump team."

Claim in NYT article: "The F.B.I. asked the N.S.A. to collect as much information as possible about the Russian operatives on the phone calls..."

Note by Strzok: "If they [NSA] did ["collect as much information as possible about Russian operatives on the phone calls"] we are not aware of those communications."

"We have not investigated Roger Stone."

"Recent interviews and investigation, however, reveal Steele may not be in a position to judge the reliability of subsource network."

"This is inaccurate... our investigation of Manafort was opened in August 2016."

Note by Strzok: "This is inaccurate..."



In other words, Peter Strzok was aware, as was the rest of his chain of command, that not only was the NYT punlishing numerous falsehoods about Trump, but that the "source" of much of this information - Steele- had no contacts in Russia and was therefore unreliable.

However, bc the FBI COC ... Strzok, Comey, et al, were also colluding to drive Trump from office, none of them stepped forward to correct the reporting, and were in fact colluding with the press.

I know it's a difficult mindset to change, but instead of assuming that the M$M is telling the truth until they've been proven to be lying, you're MUCH safer assuming that they're lying - or at least spinning like crazy- until demonstrated otherwise. If you do that, you won't be fooled so often into believing nonsense.

You CAN, for example, apply a few basic questions to any reporting, from any source:
Qui bono? Who benefits? Somebody benefits and somebody loses from every story. and...
Why now? Out of the thousands of stories that could be run on any particular day, some are bannered and others are banished. These are conscious choices made by editors, with a purpose in mind.

Here, for example, is a good explanation why the lamestream media is not reporting on this information but is instead redirecting people's attention to identitu politics and symbolic victories over statues which change absolutely nothing






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Monday, July 20, 2020 10:07 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Do you know what your problem is, WISHY? You believe the lamestream media. Despite have been lied to multiple times, you remain as gullible and trusting as the first time you were ever lied to, or the tenth.

Do you reacll WHICH publisher first printed this story?

As I recall, it was the NYT.

Here is what PETER STRZOK had to say about the NYT's published "news" about the so-called RUSSIA!RUSSIA! hysteria early on in the Trump administration, just months after Trump took office, when the NYT was publishing articles about all of the "contacts" between the various members of the Trump team and Russia:

Remember, this is ANTI-TRUMP PETER STRZOK OF THE FBI, WHO WAS ACTIVELY WOKRING TO DEPOSE TRUMP FROM OFFICE WITH FAKE CHARGES OF COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA, AND THESE ARE HIS NOTES FROM THAT TIME

Quote:

STRZOK
"This [NYT] statement is misleading and inaccurate as written. We have not seen evidence of any individuals in contact with Russians (both Governmental and non-Governmental"

"There is no known intel affiliation, and little if any [Government of Russia] affiliation[.] FBI investigation has shown past contact between [Trump campaign volunteer Carter] Page and the SVR [Service of the Russian Federation], but not during his association with the Trump campaign."

"We are unaware of any calls with any Russian government official in which Manafort was a party."

"We do not yet have detailed [Trump campaign] banking records."

"Again, we are unaware of ANY Trump advisers engaging in conversations with Russian intel officials" and "Our coverage has not revealed contact between Russian intelligence officers and the Trump team."

Claim in NYT article: "The F.B.I. asked the N.S.A. to collect as much information as possible about the Russian operatives on the phone calls..."

Note by Strzok: "If they [NSA] did ["collect as much information as possible about Russian operatives on the phone calls"] we are not aware of those communications."

"We have not investigated Roger Stone."

"Recent interviews and investigation, however, reveal Steele may not be in a position to judge the reliability of subsource network."

"This is inaccurate... our investigation of Manafort was opened in August 2016."

Note by Strzok: "This is inaccurate..."



In other words, Peter Strzok was aware, as was the rest of his chain of command, that not only was the NYT punlishing numerous falsehoods about Trump, but that the "source" of much of this information - Steele- had no contacts in Russia and was therefore unreliable.

However, bc the FBI COC ... Strzok, Comey, et al, were also colluding to drive Trump from office, none of them stepped forward to correct the reporting, and were in fact colluding with the press.

I know it's a difficult mindset to change, but instead of assuming that the M$M is telling the truth until they've been proven to be lying, you're MUCH safer assuming that they're lying - or at least spinning like crazy- until demonstrated otherwise. If you do that, you won't be fooled so often into believing nonsense.

You CAN, for example, apply a few basic questions to any reporting, from any source:
Qui bono? Who benefits? Somebody benefits and somebody loses from every story. and...
Why now? Out of the thousands of stories that could be run on any particular day, some are bannered and others are banished. These are conscious choices made by editors, with a purpose in mind.

Here, for example, is a good explanation why the lamestream media is not reporting on this information but is instead redirecting people's attention to identitu politics and symbolic victories over statues which change absolutely nothing





SIGNYM defending Russia? This place never changes.

Bored again.

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Monday, July 20, 2020 10:59 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Pretty sure you meant the Clintons had him killed.

Maybe the "royal" family.




Oblivious, as always.

The judge presiding over the Deutsche Bank and Epstein case just had her family taken out.

You know who was up to their neck in Deutsche Bank money, moron??

Hint: It ain't the Clintons...


It's your orange god, Chumpsky




That's funny. Your thread title you made about it reads as follows:

Quote:

Taking bets on how long Ghislaine Maxwell remains alive before Chumpsky and Clinton have her murdered...



I'm sure the Clinton Foundation has loads of money stuffed in shady banks around the world.

What does that even matter?


There's at least a hundred names that we know of that would be screwed if the real Epstein story got out. There's probably a thousand names we never even heard of that are more powerful than Trump or Clinton.



The difference is, you're not joking when you blame it on Trump. I'm joking when I blame it on Clinton. I said back when Epstein was killed that I was joking when I said it was the Clintons.

I'm sure they would have done it if they felt the need to, but they don't need to. Trump doesn't need to. That shit was done quietly and the decisions were made in some dark hidden room by some shadowy figures that we'll never know their identities.



If they ever manage to find that guy who dressed up in a Fed Ex uniform, it's not going to matter at all. He was a nobody. Some local thug who was either paid $10k or blackmailed into doing it. He knows nothing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 20, 2020 11:21 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Do you know what your problem is, WISHY? You believe the lamestream media. Despite have been lied to multiple times, you remain as gullible and trusting as the first time you were ever lied to, or the tenth.



SIGNYM defending Russia? This place never changes.
Bored again.



As G, sig continues to blame the main stream media for all the misinformation out there. When in fact, they've been incredibly good. Everyone out there who bucks what they have been reporting is either a troll, an ideologue who doesn't care about the truth, only their chosen side coming out on top, or stupid beyond belief.

Let’s not forget, as demonstrated by her last post here. Sig likes to post confusing posts. Posts of stockpiled untruths about events in the form of rants. The amount of reporting she and others here have dismissed as being fake, is the evidence of their intentions. They are the rotten eggs of this firefly site.


T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Monday, July 20, 2020 11:43 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Once again, we'll get a good dose of how "true" the Legacy Media has been to you when Trump wins in a blowout in November.

I'll wait.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 20, 2020 12:49 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

CC:

SIGNYM defending Russia? This place never changes.
Bored again.



Hmm, since I'm quoting Strzok, it must be

Strzok defending Russia, and CC lying again?

Who pays you to troll, CC? You lie so often and with such little conviction that it must be a job.

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Tuesday, July 21, 2020 1:34 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


The difference is, you're not joking when you blame it on Trump.

I'm sure they would have done it if they felt the need to, but they don't need to. Trump doesn't need to.


If they ever manage to find that guy who dressed up in a Fed Ex uniform, it's not going to matter at all. He was a nobody. Some local thug who was either paid $10k or blackmailed into doing it. He knows nothing.






Still not joking. Yeah, he needs to, to keep himself out of federal prison.

P.S. They found the guy. Conveniently DEAD. Just happened to be a woman hating Q-Anon Chump supporter...HOW SURPRISING........NOT.

You can't even remotely get the implications, can you??

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Tuesday, July 21, 2020 8:25 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol

I'm sure he was a Trump supporting incel.

You're a hoot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 21, 2020 9:44 AM

REAVERFAN


NEWS: Trump Just Fulfilled His Billionaire Pal’s Dream
A Labor Department letter could help Trump’s private equity donors fleece 100 million workers. The letter follows a $3 million super PAC donation from a Wall Street titan pushing for the change.
https://sirota.substack.com/p/news-trump-just-fulfilled-his-billionair
e


As news cycles were consumed by Trump deliberately inflaming social unrest and threatening a domestic military invasion, the president’s political appointees were approving a regulatory change that could transfer hundreds of billions of dollars of Americans’ retirement savings to private equity firms. Those are the Gordon Gekko-run outlets that have become famous for fleecing investors, laying off workers, gutting local economies, strip-mining media outlets and creating public health and environmental disasters -- all while minting Wall Street billionaires.

The Trump administration’s new directive came just a few months after private equity billionaire Steve Schwarzman -- who had been pushing for the change -- poured $3 million into a super PAC backing Trump’s reelection bid.

“A Windfall of $435 Billion”
To the casual onlooker, the information letter from the Employee Benefits Security Administration reads like every other impenetrable passage of stereo instructions that fills the Federal Register -- but this was no routine piece of paperwork. The guidance to Switzerland-based investment firm Partners Group effectively changed the enforcement of federal law protecting workers’ retirement savings.

While longstanding worker-protection regulations have prevented 401k plans from investing in high-risk private equity firms, the letter now permits corporations to funnel that money to those firms, which charge notoriously giant fees.

Trump’s administration argued that workers should feel fortunate and thankful that the administration will now let employers turn their savings over to private equity barons.

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Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:40 AM

THG


And again. Fuck Russia...

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Tuesday, July 21, 2020 5:23 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


I'm sure he was a Trump supporting incel.

You're a hoot.



IT'S IN THE DAMN NEWS. YOU COULD TRY READING, YOU KNOW.
It doesn't physically hurt

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8546039/Pro-Trump-murderer-la
wyer-turned-life-women-hating-dumped.html

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Tuesday, July 21, 2020 7:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol @ the news.

Have they told you anything true in 2020?

No. No they haven't.



Remember when they told us all that Epstein flung himself off his 4 1/2 foot tall 2nd bunk like an Olympic Gymnast and broke his neck? He even managed to do it with a 300lb ex-cop brute sharing the cell with him and the people who were making sure he didn't kill himself not even being aware that it happened. Without anyone being the wiser he also managed to use his X-Men telepathic powers to blank out all the video cameras so nobody could see him do it.

Pretty impressive for a 65 year old dude that spent most of his life banging 10 year olds.


Too bad for him he didn't have Magneto's super powers though. Magneto never had a problem breaking out of prison.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, July 23, 2020 1:19 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:



Remember when they told us all that Epstein flung himself off his 4 1/2 foot tall 2nd bunk like an Olympic Gymnast and broke his neck?



You really believe Chump supporting Maxwell publicly means NOTHING, don't you?




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Thursday, July 23, 2020 1:43 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I didn't see the message, but it could be taken one of 2 ways like

1) I really wish her well
or
2) she needs to watch her back. Kinda like having the godfather tell you to watch your health.

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Thursday, July 23, 2020 2:27 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:



Remember when they told us all that Epstein flung himself off his 4 1/2 foot tall 2nd bunk like an Olympic Gymnast and broke his neck?



You really believe Chump supporting Maxwell publicly means NOTHING, don't you?







You're just an idiot. Of course you think this.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, July 23, 2020 12:31 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


OH, LOOK! SOMETHING ELSE THAT RUSSIA DIDN'T DO!


Quote:

UK Government Failed to Find Whether Russia Meddled in Brexit Vote: Report

Britain's government failed to find out whether Russia meddled in the 2016 referendum on membership of the EU, a parliamentary report released on Tuesday said, saying the intelligence services should investigate and make their findings public.

The long-anticipated report by parliament's intelligence and security committee found that Russia had tried to influence a separate referendum in 2014 when voters in Scotland rejected independence.

But it said the committee was unable to determine whether Russia had attempted to influence the European Union referendum, which led to Britain's exit from the bloc this year.

When asked for evidence on suspected Russian meddling in the vote, Britain's main domestic intelligence agency MI5 produced just six lines of text, the committee said.

What were those "six lines"? It's not like a 300-page report; for the sake of completeness it should be quoted in the article.

Quote:

... The government of Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who came to power as one of the leading figures in the victorious campaign to leave the EU, rejected the call for a further review. A spokesman for Johnson said the prime minister was confident the referendum result to leave the EU was fair.

The report cast Russia as a hostile power which posed a significant threat to Britain and the West across a range of fronts, from espionage and cyber to election meddling and laundering dirty money."It appears that Russia considers the UK one of its top Western intelligence targets," the report said.

It said there were open source indications that Russia had sought to influence the Brexit campaign. But hard evidence had not been produced.

But no evidence for election meddling. Why not ask Christopher Steele? I'm sure HE would cook something up to fill the bill!

Quote:

"The key point is ... they had not sought even to ask that question and that is at the heart of this report," Stewart Hosie, a Scottish National Party member of the committee, told reporters.

British foreign minister Dominic Raab rejected claims that the government had avoided investigating Russia.

"We have a long period recognising the enduring and significant threat posed by Russia," he said. "We are not for a second complacent."

Russia has repeatedly denied meddling in the West, casting the United States and Britain as gripped by anti-Russian hysteria.

"Russia has never interfered in the electoral processes of any country in the world - not the United States, not Britain, nor any other countries," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.

Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova cast the report as "Russophobia in a fake frame".

RUSSIAN MEDDLING AND MONEY

Relations between London and Moscow plunged to post-Cold War lows after Britain blamed Russia for poisoning former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia with a nerve agent in the English city of Salisbury.

Last week, the British government said it believed Russian actors had tried to meddle in last year's general election, which was held after the report published on Tuesday was finished.

When discussing the EU referendum, the report is heavily redacted and there was a classified annex that was not published.

The committee also cast Russia as a source of corrupt money that had been welcomed in London, the world's premier international financial capital.

Well, those are Russian oligarchs fleeing Russian law. It's not Putin's fault that the City of London banks welcome dirty money.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-07-21/russia-meddled-i
n-scottish-vote-unclear-on-brexit-uk-parliamentary-report



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Thursday, October 1, 2020 1:00 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
OH, LOOK! SOMETHING ELSE THAT RUSSIA DIDN'T DO!




OH, LOOK! SOMETHING RUSSIA DOES A LOT!

Just to be mindless dicks

More than half of nation-state cyber attacks in the last year have originated from Russia, Microsoft has revealed in a new report.

According to the firm's annual Digital Defense Report, 52 per cent of state-sponsored hacking attempts from July 2019 and June 2020 were Russian in origin.

Exactly a quarter during this time period came from Iran, 12 per cent from China and the remaining 11 per cent from North Korea and other countries.


https://refusefascism.org/

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Thursday, October 1, 2020 3:01 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Sure. Whatever.

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Thursday, October 1, 2020 10:58 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Pretty sure you meant the Clintons had him killed.

Maybe the "royal" family.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Yeah, the Clintons have been out of the white house for decades, now, but they had Epstein killed.

Trump is a known buddy of Epstein, raped at least one underage girl with him, and would be exposed if Epstein were to testify, but no, it was the Clintons, because reasons.

What a dope.



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Thursday, October 1, 2020 10:59 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Sure. Whatever.

Our resident Russian trolls: Using the same talking points all Russian trolls use.

Coincidence?



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Thursday, December 17, 2020 7:23 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Our resident Russian trolls: Using the same talking points all Russian trolls use.

Coincidence?



Every damn day for 15 YEARS, I mean that's some quality brainwashing. Why would ANYONE think Russia should take over ANYTHING?? I don't get it...


Good job though, Chump Administration. Way to cover our asses

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9064709/Russian-hack-federal-
government-hard-overstate-says-ex-homeland-security-adviser.html#comments



Russia is damn hard at work starting WW3...

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 8:18 PM

REAVERFAN


Bellingcat and Navalny present evidence linking Russian FSB to poisoning
Outspoken Kremlin critic Alexei Navalny and investigative outlet Bellingcat have unveiled more evidence, claiming that agents from Russia's secretive Federal Security Service were behind a near-fatal Novichok poisoning.
https://www.dw.com/en/bellingcat-and-navalny-present-evidence-linking-
russian-fsb-to-poisoning/a-55939814


Putin's an evil, murderous tyrant. I will dance when he dies.

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 8:40 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Our resident Russian trolls: Using the same talking points all Russian trolls use.

Coincidence?



Every damn day for 15 YEARS, I mean that's some quality brainwashing. Why would ANYONE think Russia should take over ANYTHING?? I don't get it...


Good job though, Chump Administration. Way to cover our asses

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9064709/Russian-hack-federal-
government-hard-overstate-says-ex-homeland-security-adviser.html#comments



Russia is damn hard at work starting WW3...

Hey WISHY! I'm making chicken and dumplings for dinner! C'mon down!

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:07 PM

REAVERFAN


Hackers targeted US nuclear weapons agency in massive cybersecurity breach, reports say
Attack part of wider assault on federal agencies and critical infrastructure
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/hackers-
nuclear-weapons-cybersecurity-b1775864.html?utm_content=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&utm_source=reddit.com#Echobox=1608238108


Russian hackers, that is. We don't dine with the enemy. Trump does, but patriots don't.



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Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:28 PM

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Stoking Conflict by Keystroke
New Facebook takedowns expose networks of Russian-linked assets targeting Libya, Sudan, Syria, and the Central African Republic.
https://cyber.fsi.stanford.edu/io/news/africa-takedown-december-2020

Today Facebook announced the takedown of three separate networks that targeted communities across Africa. Facebook shared the assets with the Stanford Internet Observatory (SIO) and Graphika before they were suspended. SIO collaborated with colleagues at Graphika on two reports analyzing these networks, both of which we published today.

The first network consisted of 126 Pages, 16 Groups, 211 profiles, and 17 Instagram accounts affiliated with individuals with links to the past activity of the Internet Research Agency (IRA), an entity linked to Russian businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin. According to Facebook, the network involved operators in Russia, Libya, Egypt, Sudan, and Syria and targeted individuals in Libya, Sudan, and Syria. The operation also had a Twitter presence of approximately 30 accounts actively participating in the information operation. These accounts had several thousand followers — at least one had almost 12,000 followers — but the Twitter presence was much smaller than that on Facebook.
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Russians are slimy little fuckers. Can't trust any of them. Just look at the stupid, lying, evil Russian trolls we have here. They're dogshit.



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Friday, December 18, 2020 1:25 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



So ... not targeting a US interest, and not done by the Russian government, but one was linked to the French military.


The aims appear to have been:
Quote:

Libya:
Several suspended assets were linked to the Stop Terror media brand, which ran a daily podcast.
The network pushed for the release of Russian sociologist Maksim Shugalei and his translator Samir Seifan from a Libyan prison.

Sudan:
Like the 2019 Prigozhin-Sudan operation, the Pages targeting Sudan in this takedown heavily leveraged “news” websites. Narratively, these Pages and linked sites discussed Sudan’s economic crisis and positively framed a Russian-Sudanese deal for a Russian naval base in Sudan, and positively framed ongoing Russian activities in Sudan’s mining sector.

Syria:
Overall, Syria-focused assets mobilized in support of the Bashar al-Assad regime, government ... (... which is reocgnized by the UN as the legitimate government of Syria).
The Syrian Facebook Pages told negative stories about the lives of Syrian refugees, perhaps as part of push and pull strategies to promote refugee resettlement.



So dastardly!!


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Friday, December 18, 2020 12:18 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

So ... not targeting a US interest, and not done by the Russian government, but one was linked to the French military.

Whoosh! Right over your Russian troll head!



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Friday, December 18, 2020 12:19 PM

REAVERFAN


And who's to blame for this disaster? That's right...

Trump moved cyber security budget to pay for his wall before major hacking assault
‘We have a president diverting money, billions of it, to build a wall,’ says former FBI deputy
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-cy
bersecurity-fbi-russian-hackers-b1776007.html?utm_source=reddit.com


Trump does everything Putin tells him to, just like Kiki the Russian troll does.



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Friday, December 18, 2020 12:25 PM

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Russia hasn’t just hacked our computer systems. It’s hacked our minds. The Recent Hack Is Putin's Goodbye to Trump - and warning. Russia will remain like a virus inside the DNA of America for a long long time.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/russia-hasnt-just-hacked-our-c
omputer-systems-its-hacked-our-minds/2020/12/17/7ddd72a8-40a7-11eb-8bc0-ae155bee4aff_story.html


The more we learn about the recent hack into dozens of America’s most critical computer networks — widely attributed to Russia — the more it becomes clear that it is massive, unprecedented and crippling. Tom Bossert, who served as homeland security adviser to President Trump, writes, “It will take years to know for certain which networks the Russians control and which ones they just occupy.” (We do know they successfully penetrated the Department of Homeland Security’s systems as well as those of Treasury, Commerce and others.) Stanford’s Alex Stamos describes it as “one of the most important hacking campaigns in history.” The New York Times’ David E. Sanger, who has written several books on cyberweapons, co-wrote an article calling the breach “among the greatest intelligence failures of modern times.”

Vladimir Putin’s Russia has significantly expanded its hybrid warfare, using new methods to spread chaos among its adversaries. The United States will have to fortify its digital infrastructure and respond more robustly to the Kremlin’s mounting cyberattacks. But what about the perhaps more insidious Russian efforts at disinformation, which have helped to reshape the information environment worldwide?

In 2016, two scholars at Rand Corp. wrote a paper describing Russia’s “firehose of falsehood” propaganda model. Very different from Cold War-era propaganda, current Russian approaches work with prevailing technologies and social media platforms. There are two key features — “high numbers of channels and messages and a shameless willingness to disseminate partial truths or outright fictions.” There is no effort at consistency or credibility. The report quotes one analyst: “New Russian propaganda entertains, confuses and overwhelms the audience.”

Russia’s method closely resembles Trump’s own propaganda strategy. Trump issues a blizzard of messages, using every medium he can find. He is usually untruthful but always entertaining. He never worries about consistency, asking only that you remember his most recent claims. When campaigning in 2016 he argued that the unemployment rate was a hoax, that the Federal Reserve was keeping interest rates dangerously low and that the stock market was a bubble about to burst. Once he entered the White House, he soon said the opposite about all three. If you bombard people in the present, few have time to dwell on the past.

Wittingly or unwittingly, Trump uses the Russian model, which rests on the principle that people get convinced when they hear the same message many times from a variety of sources, no matter how biased. He adds to this an intuitive understanding of how social media works. If you make a claim that is truly outrageous, it will attract attention and eyeballs, spread far and wide, and ensure that people hear it repeatedly — and over time begin to believe it. A boring truth dies on Twitter, while a sensational lie goes viral and (most disturbingly) over time become a half-truth. (I recently experienced this myself. A commentary of mine was edited so that I seemed to be saying close to the opposite of what I actually was, which then ensured that it was widely disseminated.)

Trump has set a new standard because he simply does not view the truth as a constraint. A principled conservative would explain that Republicans do not have a replacement for Obamacare because they don’t believe the federal government should be required to guarantee health care as a right. Trump’s method is easier — he simply asserts that he has a plan, even better than Obamacare. Trump has announced he will veto the defense appropriations bill, apparently because it removes Confederate names from bases and does not repeal Section 230, a rule about social media companies. But he decided it would be simpler to claim that “THE BIGGEST WINNER OF OUR NEW DEFENSE BILL IS CHINA.” There is no conceivable sense in which this is factual — the bill actually would create a formal deterrence initiative against Chinese expansionism. But Trump understands that a sensational lie is far more effective than a complicated truth.

The pandemic might have accelerated these trends toward disinformation. Socially isolated, cut off from most communities, Americans seem even more susceptible to theories that confirm their partisan beliefs. The most startling fact about 2020 is not that Trump tried to overturn the results of the election. Many of us predicted he would try. What is stunning is that, according to the polls, 60 million Americans believe his assertions and the series of lies that sustain them. The problem is not just that Russia has hacked America’s computer systems. It seems to have hacked our minds.



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Friday, December 18, 2020 2:42 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



reposted to get a fact-based response

So ... not targeting a US interest, and not done by the Russian government, but one was linked to the French military.


The aims appear to have been:
Quote:

Libya:
Several suspended assets were linked to the Stop Terror media brand, which ran a daily podcast.
The network pushed for the release of Russian sociologist Maksim Shugalei and his translator Samir Seifan from a Libyan prison.

Sudan:
Like the 2019 Prigozhin-Sudan operation, the Pages targeting Sudan in this takedown heavily leveraged “news” websites. Narratively, these Pages and linked sites discussed Sudan’s economic crisis and positively framed a Russian-Sudanese deal for a Russian naval base in Sudan, and positively framed ongoing Russian activities in Sudan’s mining sector.

Syria:
Overall, Syria-focused assets mobilized in support of the Bashar al-Assad regime, government ... (... which is reocgnized by the UN as the legitimate government of Syria).
The Syrian Facebook Pages told negative stories about the lives of Syrian refugees, perhaps as part of push and pull strategies to promote refugee resettlement.



So dastardly!!


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Friday, December 18, 2020 2:54 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

reposted to get a fact-based response

So ... not targeting a US interest, and not done by the Russian government, but one was linked to the French military.


The aims appear to have been:
Quote:

Libya:
Several suspended assets were linked to the Stop Terror media brand, which ran a daily podcast.
The network pushed for the release of Russian sociologist Maksim Shugalei and his translator Samir Seifan from a Libyan prison.

Sudan:
Like the 2019 Prigozhin-Sudan operation, the Pages targeting Sudan in this takedown heavily leveraged “news” websites. Narratively, these Pages and linked sites discussed Sudan’s economic crisis and positively framed a Russian-Sudanese deal for a Russian naval base in Sudan, and positively framed ongoing Russian activities in Sudan’s mining sector.

Syria:
Overall, Syria-focused assets mobilized in support of the Bashar al-Assad regime, government ... (... which is reocgnized by the UN as the legitimate government of Syria).
The Syrian Facebook Pages told negative stories about the lives of Syrian refugees, perhaps as part of push and pull strategies to promote refugee resettlement.



So dastardly!!


Too many good facts, KIKI! Get with the narrative!

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 12:00 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Too many good facts, KIKI! Get with the narrative!





Every time you twits defend Russian hacking you just look like more and more of a joke around here, you know that right???




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Sunday, December 20, 2020 12:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


^ Says the biggest joke in the RWED.



What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 3:14 PM

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 5:35 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


^ Marcos is just salty he's too stupid to hack computers and he still has to burn his trash cans in person.

At least he was already wearing a mask everywhere, so he doesn't feel oppressed when they tell everybody else that they have to.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 9:59 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Too many good facts, KIKI! Get with the narrative!





Every time you twits defend Russian hacking you just look like more and more of a joke around here, you know that right???




Every time you panic about RUSIIA!RUSSIA! or FASCISM! without the slightest evidence you look like a panicked cow.

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Monday, December 21, 2020 12:33 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Every time you panic about RUSIIA!RUSSIA! or FASCISM! without the slightest evidence you look like a panicked cow.





It's hilarious that your alternate "double think" definition of "without evidence" is DOZENS of articles relaying info from defense departments, energy departments, government officials...EVEN MICROSOFT said it


All relayed info is somehow "neofitsial'nyy" (say the word slow and you'll get it) if I haven't been in the government computers MY OWN SELF.

Seriously, great brainwashing. Ypa Manipulative pieces of SHIT.






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Monday, December 21, 2020 12:41 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




Nobody "said it" except the newspapers.

Name me one quoted person who'se seen the actual code, who understands it, who "said it". Otherwise, it's just people quoting people who quoted someone who heard an anonymous someone say something.

And, meh.

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Monday, December 21, 2020 12:49 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:


Otherwise, it's just people quoting people who quoted someone who heard an anonymous someone say something... ON AN AVERAGE OF EVERY THREE MONTHS.

And, meh.



Fify.

A Russian Troll would say "MEH".

Someone that wanted Russia to stay on their frozen hell side of the line would say

Funny how that works!


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Monday, December 21, 2020 1:17 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Every 3 months? Is that how long you're OTR?

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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 12:16 AM

WISHIMAY


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9076393/Contradicting-Trump-U
S-justice-chief-fingers-Russia-hack.html


Even idiot Bill Barr can see the Cyrillic writing on the wall.


But you two are completely blind and dense. How surprising





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