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Countdown To Stealing The Election

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 2:24 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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Well ... we have NEVER had in our Constitution direct citizen vote for the President.

So ... f*ck the Constitution?


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Who said “direct?” Who said f@ck it? You and you only - bad dodge.

What’s the electoral college? What’s an amendment?



THIS is what you posted - remember?

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From now on it'll just depend on which party has the right number of congress reps and F*ck citizens voting.

Well, the when it comes to the US Constitution, the "citizen vote" has never had anything to do at all with selecting the President.

See anything here about people going out and voting for the President - anywhere?


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Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

(The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not lie an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; a quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two-thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice-President.) (This clause in parentheses was superseded by the 12th Amendment.)

The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.



Is there anything else you want to post that's wrong?

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:42 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
I don't think that would qualify us as a Democracy at that point, right?



We're not a Democracy.

Read a book.






Eat sh*t and die, fwad.

Is the United States a Democracy?

The United States is a democracy, but it is not a true democracy. Instead, it is a representative democracy. The common forms of democracy are direct democracy and representative democracy. A direct democracy is a system of government in which the majority have their say on every matter concerning governance. Direct democracies hold referendums each time an issue has to be decided upon because there are no elective representatives. The United States is a representative democracy, as the public elects individuals to represent them at the government level. The United States is also a constitutional democracy, meaning that the functions and roles of the government are governed by the constitution that also protects the rights and privileges of the citizenry regardless of whether they are majority or minority.


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Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:49 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

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Well ... we have NEVER had in our Constitution direct citizen vote for the President.

So ... f*ck the Constitution?


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Who said “direct?” Who said f@ck it? You and you only - bad dodge.

What’s the electoral college? What’s an amendment?



THIS is what you posted - remember?

Quote:

From now on it'll just depend on which party has the right number of congress reps and F*ck citizens voting.

Well, the when it comes to the US Constitution, the "citizen vote" has never had anything to do at all with selecting the President.

See anything here about people going out and voting for the President - anywhere?


Quote:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

(The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not lie an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; a quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two-thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice-President.) (This clause in parentheses was superseded by the 12th Amendment.)

The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.



Is there anything else you want to post that's wrong?



You are one joyless f*ck, aren't you?

Did you vote this year? Was their an option for "President?" Electoral votes chose the president and who determines the electoral votes? Do I really need to connect the dots for you? (Don't worry, I just did). But please continue to be a total nob and waste time.


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Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:10 AM

REAVERFAN


Kiki is a Russian troll. Can't vote in the US.



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Thursday, December 17, 2020 3:51 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



And once again, CC can't point to the US Constitutional amendment where the everday US citizen is guaranteed a vote that selects the president.

Who determines the Electoral College is determined by each state, and - to point this out once again - there is NO Constitutional guarantee that the citizen vote determines what the states do.


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Thursday, December 17, 2020 3:55 PM

REAVERFAN


Are you still blabbering, Russian troll?

Biden won in the fairest election ever. Get over it.



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Thursday, December 17, 2020 4:12 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



And once again, CC can't point to the US Constitutional amendment where the everday US citizen is guaranteed a vote that selects the president.

Who determines the Electoral College is determined by each state, and - to point this out once again - there is NO Constitutional guarantee that the citizen vote determines what the states do.

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:25 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

And once again, CC can't point to the US Constitutional amendment where the everday US citizen is guaranteed a vote that selects the president.

Who determines the Electoral College is determined by each state, and - to point this out once again - there is NO Constitutional guarantee that the citizen vote determines what the states do.

When the Constitution was written, to vote you had to be rich, white, male. Not Catholic. Not Jewish. Neither was the word guarantee or any similar in the Constitution.
https://www.crf-usa.org/bill-of-rights-in-action/bria-8-1-b-who-voted-
in-early-america


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:29 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



And yet - despite many amendments - TO THIS VERY DAY - the Electoral College is how the President is selected, with no Constitutional guarantee that anybody's vote for President counts at all.

But what the heck! Eff the Constitution! Right?

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:45 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

And yet - despite many amendments - TO THIS VERY DAY - the Electoral College is how the President is selected, with no Constitutional guarantee that anybody's vote for President counts at all.

But what the heck! Eff the Constitution! Right?

There has been 700 attempts to remove the Electoral college, but none of them could get 3/4th of the states to agree because whoever happened to be empowered by the Electoral College saw the advantages of keeping it. If the Colonists had put it to vote to, say, get rid of George III, George and Parliament would have squashed the idea. That is the same dynamic that has kept the Electoral College in business for hundreds of years. I think somebody will have to be killed to rid the Constitution of the Electoral College, very much like a million people had to die to remove slavery from the Constitution. To the people who were given special advantages by slavery, preserving slavery was worth fighting to the death. To the people given special advantage by the Electoral College, preserving it might be worth fighting to the death.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:55 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



"because whoever happened to be empowered by the Electoral College saw the advantages of keeping it"

Who would that be?

And BTW, despite the MANY Constitutional changes to say, slavery, and who gets to vote, the Electoral College is STILL the law of the land. And there is STILL no Constitutional provision guaranteeing that any citizen vote for President counts for anything.


ETA: But if you can point out to me that whatever is being done is outside the Constitution, we could have a discussion about that.




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Thursday, December 17, 2020 6:33 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

"because whoever happened to be empowered by the Electoral College saw the advantages of keeping it"

Who would that be?

And BTW, despite the MANY Constitutional changes to say, slavery, and who gets to vote, the Electoral College is STILL the law of the land. And there is STILL no Constitutional provision guaranteeing that any citizen vote for President counts for anything.

ETA: But if you can point out to me that whatever is being done is outside the Constitution, we could have a discussion about that.

There is plenty of things that were and are Constitutional and yet evil. It was perfectly Constitutional to burn women and children alive with A-bombs and American did plenty of that. You would have been threatened with execution if you were opposed to murdering civilians during WWII or Vietnam War. Very Constitutional for the President to murder Indians, too. The Constitution is a very poor guide to the difference between good and evil. Trump is executing people in the Federal prisons when nobody has been executed for decades. What he is doing is perfectly Constitutional. It is very impressive what the Constitution will allow you to legally do once you are in power.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/15/trump-administration-u
s-death-penalty-executions


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 6:56 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



So, what Trump is doing regarding the elections is Constitutional?


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Friday, December 18, 2020 1:05 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



I'm kind of waiting for your response. In your very roundabout way, it sounds like that's what you mean.

You find it "evil" but not necessarily unconstitutional.

Right?

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Friday, December 18, 2020 6:12 AM

THG


Ranting and raving claiming election fraud, while not presenting any evidence of it in 50 or more separate court cases so far, is not following the constitution. Improperly trying to throw out millions of votes is not following the constitution. It’s an attempt at a coup. What’s more disturbing though is how many support this idiot.

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Friday, December 18, 2020 8:20 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

So, what Trump is doing regarding the elections is Constitutional?

I'm kind of waiting for your response. In your very roundabout way, it sounds like that's what you mean.

You find it "evil" but not necessarily unconstitutional.

Right?

While Trump spends all his time doing his thing about the election, have you noticed that he has completely avoided his other duties? It is perfectly Constitutional for Trump to do nothing but what pleases himself:
"Trump fights for a job that he's not doing as coronavirus rages"
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/18/politics/donald-trump-absent-covid-stim
ulus-vaccine/index.html


In his comfort zone of the Twittersphere -- where he's put out countless false tweets claiming the election was "swindled" -- Trump has been silent about the disturbing hacking campaign, suspected to be tied to Russia, that has endangered US national security. Despite being briefed on the massive data breach by top intelligence officials Thursday, he hasn't said anything about risks to the federal government or how he planned to address it.

Sen. Mitt Romney, who has been a critic of the President, called the hacking "the modern equivalent of almost Russian bombers reportedly flying undetected over the entire country," speaking to SiriusXM on Thursday. "And in this setting, not to have the White House aggressively speaking out and protesting and taking punitive action is really, really quite extraordinary." But Trump is "aggressively speaking out and protesting" about Russia this morning:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
The Russia Hoax becomes an even bigger lie!
6:58 AM · Dec 18, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1339918065543352321

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, December 18, 2020 2:38 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Ranting and raving claiming election fraud, while not presenting any evidence of it in 50 or more separate court cases so far, is not following the constitution. Improperly trying to throw out millions of votes is not following the constitution. It’s an attempt at a coup. What’s more disturbing though is how many support this idiot.

The same could be said about Hillary and your favorite boogeymen, the Russians.

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Friday, December 18, 2020 2:40 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




So, why do you think neither democrats* nor republicans are calling for a neutral study of the election?

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Friday, December 18, 2020 7:43 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Republicans Are Manufacturing a Legitimacy Crisis

First they lied about election fraud to sow distrust. Now they say voters don’t trust the election.

Having stoked this distrust, the president and his allies are now exploiting it. They argue that the fraud must be real since so many people believe in it, and that even if it can’t be proved, widespread disbelief in the results makes the election illegitimate. On Fox News, Republican poll numbers have become a routine substitute for evidence. Trump points to them as proof that “the election was rigged.” His campaign advisers, including Lara Trump, also cite these numbers. Last week, Sen. Ted Cruz said the Supreme Court should intervene because “39 percent of Americans right now believe this last election was rigged.” In Georgia, Sen. Kelly Loeffler demanded that the secretary of state resign because “Georgians have lost faith in our elections.” House Minority Whip Steve Scalise, noting the “distrust” felt by “millions of people,” refused to say that Trump should accept the verdict of the Electoral College.

https://web.archive.org/web/20201218153924/https://slate.com/news-and-
politics/2020/12/trump-election-lies-gop-legitimacy-crisis.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 10:02 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


This morning, Trump is again attempting to steal the Election for himself:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
He didn’t win the Election. He lost all 6 Swing States, by a lot. They then dumped hundreds of thousands of votes in each one, and got caught. Now Republican politicians have to fight so that their great victory is not stolen. Don’t be weak fools!
Stephen Colbert’s Joe Biden interview a real joke https://trib.al/oc4Z7Fi
8:41 AM · Dec 19, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340306154031857665

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 2:13 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
The Cyber Hack is far greater in the Fake News Media than in actuality. I have been fully briefed and everything is well under control. Russia, Russia, Russia is the priority chant when anything happens because Lamestream is, for mostly financial reasons, petrified of discussing the possibility that it may be China (it may!). There could also have been a hit on our ridiculous voting machines during the election, which is now obvious that I won big, making it an even more corrupted embarrassment for the USA. @DNI_Ratcliffe @SecPompeo
10:30 AM · Dec 19, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340333618691002368

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo became the first member of the Trump administration to publicly say that Russia was behind the huge cyberattack on federal government agencies. “This was a very significant effort, and I think it’s the case that now we can say pretty clearly that it was the Russians that engaged in this activity,” Pompeo said.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/12/pompeo-links-russia-cybera
ttack-trump-china.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 2:37 PM

REAVERFAN






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Saturday, December 19, 2020 2:58 PM

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 10:28 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


The following news is very disturbing . . . for the GOP:

After four days of early voting, record turnout seen in Georgia runoff Senate elections. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/after-four-days-of-early-voting-reco
rd-turnout-seen-in-georgia-runoff-senate-elections-11608394532


Kentucky's Senator Rand Paul is very, very concerned that people who he doesn't want to vote are voting in Georgia. “I am very worried the Democrats will control all three branches of Government and they will very truly transform America and not for the better.” Paul also says Georgia was stolen by Biden. Now Georgia is being stolen a second time in the run off election for Senators.
https://angrybearblog.com/2020/12/quote-of-the-day

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 3:23 PM

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 4:35 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Every time you literally put words in people's mouths, you're lying.


RF is an idiot. It's that simple.

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Monday, May 3, 2021 7:30 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

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Wednesday, May 12, 2021 5:35 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN




WI Supreme Court Ruled Election Votes were Illegal:
https://www.thepostemail.com/2020/12/15/the-wisconsin-supreme-court-ju
st-gave-its-legislature-cover-to-investigate-illegal-votes
/

https://thedailycoin.org/2020/12/24/judge-rules-over-200000-biden-vote
s-are-illegitimate-in-wisconsin-this-is-a-historic-moment-to-save-the-country
/

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/12/14/wisconsin-supreme-cour
t-rules-absentee-ballot-distribution-violated-state-law-opens-door-for-challenges
/

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/12/14/wisconsin-supreme-cour
t-rules-absentee-ballot-distribution-violated-state-law-opens-door-for-challenges
/

https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2020/12/16/wisconsin-supreme-c
ourt-rules-mass-mail-in-ballots-not-legal
/

https://thegreggjarrett.com/wi-supreme-court-rules-state-did-not-have-
authority-to-abandon-voter-id-rules-due-to-covid
/




Michigan Supreme Court Ruled that Election Votes were Illegal:
https://newspunch.com/trump-vindicated-court-rules-michigans-absentee-
ballot-order-was-illegal
/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/judge-rules-michigan-sec-state
-broke-law-absentee-ballot


https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/17/judge-rules-michigan-secretary-of
-state-violated-state-law-with-absentee-ballot-order
/

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2021/03/19/trump-w
as-right-michigan-judge-rules-states-2020-almost-anything-goes-ballot-signature-rule-was-invalid-n1433600


https://trendingpolitics.com/michigan-court-sec-of-state-broke-electio
n-law-with-absentee-ballot-order-knab
/

https://jonathanturley.org/2021/03/17/court-rules-michigan-secretary-o
f-state-broke-state-law-on-absentee-ballot-guidelines-before-2020-election
/


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Wednesday, May 12, 2021 9:09 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Wait? So fake President* IS fake?

lol

--------------------------------------------------

Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

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Thursday, May 13, 2021 12:07 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Wait? So fake President* IS fake?

lol

Of course. You've known that for a half year already.

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