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and Libya was turned into a hellhole by jihadis and mercs

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SIGNYM:
and Libya was turned into a hellhole by jihadis and mercs
TWITCHY: 'Cause it was such a paradise before we got there

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After coming to power, the RCC government initiated a process of directing funds toward providing education, health care and housing for all. Public education in the country became free and primary education compulsory for both sexes. Medical care became available to the public at no cost, but providing housing for all was a task the RCC government was not able to complete.

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Yet during the four decades of his rule, in contrast to many Arab and African countries, women made progress in Libya. Under King Idris, whom Gaddafi overthrew in 1969, less than a quarter of girls went to primary school, but he increased compulsory education from six to nine years, which boosted female literacy from one of the lowest to one of the highest in the region. By the time he was ousted there were more women than men at university. He encouraged women to take up jobs such as teaching, nursing and administrative work but they also became pharmacists, doctors, dentists and sometimes engineers. Traditionally, a Libyan woman joined a man’s family on marriage after the payment of a bride price, and was then largely restricted to the home, but through the 1970s and 80s the old ways started to break down. By the end of Gadaffi’s rule, there were more women in the workforce in Libya than in most Arab countries.

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ENSLAVED AND RAPED IN LIBYA: How this woman escaped from IS captivity

Since the group emerged in Libya in late 2014, some 240,000 migrants and refugees have traversed the war-torn country. The fighters then enslaved, raped, sold or exchanged at least 63 captive women, nine of whom described their ordeal in detail to Reuters.

On the night of June 2, 2015, gunmen blocked a highway on Libya’s northern coast and stopped a white truck speeding toward Tripoli, the capital. The men trained their assault rifles on the driver. Three climbed aboard to search the cargo.

Ruta Fisehaye, a 24-year-old Eritrean, was lying on the bed of the truck’s first trailer. Beside her lay 85 Eritrean men and women, one of whom was pregnant. A few dozen Egyptians hid in the second trailer. All shared one dream — to reach Europe.

The gunmen ordered the migrants off the truck. They separated Muslims from Christians and, then, men from women. They asked those who claimed to be Muslims to recite the Shahada, a pledge to worship only Allah. All of the Egyptians shouted the words in unison.

“There is no god but God. Muhammad is the messenger of God.”

“Allahu Akbar,” the gunmen called back.

Fisehaye realised then that she was in the hands of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria...

... It only took a week for Fisehaye and the other women to attempt another breakout. Nine escaped, but not Fisehaye. Instead, she was brought back to the makeshift prison and whipped for days. The Korean doctor tended to her wounds.

... The ranks of Islamic State fighters swelled. At its peak, the group may have had 6,000 fighters in Libya, based on the US Army’s estimates, although the Pentagon drastically cut that estimate this month to a thousand fighters in Sirte.

The single men, most of whom flocked from other parts of Africa, needed companions, and Islamic State enlisted older women in Sirte to help. The women, called ‘crows’ because they dressed in black, visited townspeople’s homes and registered single girls older than 15 as potential brides, says Brigadier Gnaidy of the Misrata forces.

As the group’s ambitions grew that summer, so did its need for women. Islamic State’s take on sharia permits men to take sex slaves.

... “You are now sabaya,” Hafeezo told Kidane, using the archaic term for slave. There were four possible outcomes for her and the other women, he explained. Their respective owners could make them their sex slaves, give them away as gifts, sell them to other militias, or set them free.

“Do not worry about what will happen to you in the hands of men,” Kidane says Hafeezo told her. “Concern yourself only with where you stand with Allah.”

Kidane did not share this detail with Fisehaye or the other women, hoping to save them from despair.

Later, one of Hafeezo’s superiors came to the compound to take a census. He wrote the women’s names and ages on a ledger. He asked them to lift their veils and examined their faces. He returned a week later and took two of the youngest women, aged 15 and 18, with him. On December 17, he sent for Kidane. That day, he gave her to a Libyan member of an Islamic State brigade in Sirte. Despite her repeated pleas, her new owner refused to reunite her with Fisehaye.

In late January, a stomach ulcer confined Fisehaye to her bed. Stress made matters worse. Returning from a hospital visit one afternoon, she witnessed a child, no older than 9, shoot a man in the town square.

Soon after, she and the remaining female captives moved to a warehouse in Sirte where Islamic State stored appliances, fuel and slaves. A group of 15 Eritrean women, who had been kidnapped in July, and three Ethiopian women kidnapped in January joined them that week.

The warehouse became, to the women, a last frontier of defiance. As new Muslims, they argued for better healthcare and the abolition of their slavery. They absorbed beatings in response.

Resistance proved futile. An Eritrean fighter called Mohamed, who had often dropped by to survey the women, purchased Fisehaye in February. He never said how much he paid for her. But he seemed gentle at first, asking after her waning health and her past life in Eritrea.

“I was confused. I thought he was going to help me. Maybe he had infiltrated Daesh. Maybe he wasn’t really one of them. I started harbouring hope,” Fisehaye said.

Instead, he raped her, repeatedly, for weeks.

“No one ever showed us which part of the Koran says they could turn us into slaves,” Fisehaye said. “They wanted to destroy us…so much evil in their hearts.”

She plotted her escape but could not find a way out.

Then her owner lent her to another man, a Senegalese fighter. Known by the nom de guerre Abu Hamza, the Senegalese had brought his wife and three children to the Libyan frontline. Fisehaye was to work, unpaid, in Abu Hamza’s kitchen.

The work was busy but bearable, until one night in mid-February when Abu Hamza brought an Eritrean woman from the warehouse. He raped the woman all night.

“She was screaming. Screaming. It tore my heart,” Fisehaye recalled. “His wife stood by the door and cried.”

The next morning, Fisehaye convinced the battered woman to run away with her. They left the city behind and ran into the desert. No one stopped to help them and they were caught by religious police on patrol outside the city.

The police returned both women to captivity. The battered Eritrean woman went back to Abu Hamza. Mohamed took Fisehaye to a three-story building in Sirte that he shared with two other fighters.

Fisehaye moved in with a 22-year-old Eritrean woman and her 4-year-old son, both of whom belonged to a Tunisian commander named Saleh. Another 23-year-old Eritrean lived down the hall with her 2-year-old son and a daughter to whom she gave birth while in Islamic State custody. That woman and her children belonged to a Nigerian fighter who called himself al-Baghdadi.

Fisehaye’s roommates said the men raped them on multiple occasions. They told their stories on condition of anonymity.

“There was no one there to help me. So I kept quiet and took the abuse,” the Eritrean mother of two later said. “I stopped resisting. He did as he pleased with me.”

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
what do you call a President who toppled three nations- creating three failed states, attempted to topple several more, kept a "kill list" ("I'm rather good at that") and spied on any citizen without restraint?

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Personally, I find THAT more disordered than anything Trump has done.

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Grandpa Trump made the family fortune with brothels. Daddy Trump made even more money being a slumlord. Little Donny Trump inherited 400 million dollars, and lost it all. And lost it all. AND LOST IT ALL. Then Putin loaned him millions. Now Donny works for Putin and is a traitor.



Psychopathy runs in the family.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
what do you call a President who toppled three nations- creating three failed states, attempted to topple several more, kept a "kill list" ("I'm rather good at that") and spied on any citizen without restraint?

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A narccistic psychopath.

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What do you call a Secretary of State who said "We came, we saw, he died! *giggle*" after Gaddafi was sodomized with a knife by jihadis, and Libya was turned into a hellhole by jihadis and mercs, with slave auctions and everything?

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A narccistic psychopathic witch.

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Personally, I find THAT more disordered than anything Trump has done.

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SIGNYM:
what do you call a President who toppled three nations- creating three failed states, attempted to topple several more, kept a "kill list" ("I'm rather good at that") and spied on any citizen without restraint?

JSF: A narccistic psychopath.

SIGNY: What do you call a Secretary of State who said "We came, we saw, he died! *giggle*" after Gaddafi was sodomized with a knife by jihadis, and Libya was turned into a hellhole by jihadis and mercs, with slave auctions and everything?

JSF: A narccistic psychopathic witch.

SIGNY: Personally, I find THAT more disordered than anything Trump has done.


SECONDRATE: As a reminder, the entire Republican Party was pleased with the fall of Libya. Start with Trump:

In February 2011, as the Arab Spring was in full swing, Trump advocated an aerial campaign to decapitate the regime of his erstwhile friend. However, unwilling to help the Libyans remove their dictator altruistically, he offered a mercenary bombs-for-oil scheme. Now in 2016, as he has staked out an anti-intervention, America-first stance on international affairs, he has attempted to backtrack from his previous statements so that he can attack Hillary Clinton as responsible for the mess in Libya, and tied to the failed doctrine of humanitarian intervention. (If you read the article, Trump was always crazy, greedy, stupid, and contradictory about Libya.)
www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2016/8/9/donald-trumps-gaddafi-problem/

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Then there is the rest of the GOP:
Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham were equally gratified and positive. “The end of the Gadhafi regime is a victory for the Libyan people and the broader cause of freedom in the Middle East and throughout the world,” they concluded. The two senators, along with their Republican colleagues, Mark Kirk and Marco Rubio, gushed during a visit to “liberated” Tripoli that the rebels had “inspired the world.”
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-skeptics/libya-failed-state-its-
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"A psychopath": Psychologists call Trump the "most psychiatrically disordered president in history"

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"He must be stopped before it is too late,” psychologists Alan D. Blotcky and Seth D. Norrholm warn Americans

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SIGNYM:
what do you call a President who toppled three nations- creating three failed states, attempted to topple several more, kept a "kill list" ("I'm rather good at that") and spied on any citizen without restraint?

JSF: A narccistic psychopath.

SIGNY: What do you call a Secretary of State who said "We came, we saw, he died! *giggle*" after Gaddafi was sodomized with a knife by jihadis, and Libya was turned into a hellhole by jihadis and mercs, with slave auctions and everything?

JSF: A narccistic psychopathic witch.

SIGNY: Personally, I find THAT more disordered than anything Trump has done.


SECONDRATE: As a reminder, the entire Republican Party was pleased with the fall of Libya. Start with Trump:

In February 2011, as the Arab Spring was in full swing, Trump advocated an aerial campaign to decapitate the regime of his erstwhile friend. However, unwilling to help the Libyans remove their dictator altruistically, he offered a mercenary bombs-for-oil scheme. Now in 2016, as he has staked out an anti-intervention, America-first stance on international affairs, he has attempted to backtrack from his previous statements so that he can attack Hillary Clinton as responsible for the mess in Libya, and tied to the failed doctrine of humanitarian intervention. (If you read the article, Trump was always crazy, greedy, stupid, and contradictory about Libya.)
www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2016/8/9/donald-trumps-gaddafi-problem/

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I don't care what a person SAYS as much as what they DO. [Which BTW is one of the reasons you don't find me haring and hounding after Trump's tweets, NOR do you find me believing Obama's lies.] Trump's record speaks for itself: He has not started any new wars. He's not a saint, because the CIA and State Dept are STILL constantly meddling in other nations' internal affairs (Venezuela, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Belarus etc etc) but t least troops haven't been committed.

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Then there is the rest of the GOP:
Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham were equally gratified and positive. “The end of the Gadhafi regime is a victory for the Libyan people and the broader cause of freedom in the Middle East and throughout the world,” they concluded. The two senators, along with their Republican colleagues, Mark Kirk and Marco Rubio, gushed during a visit to “liberated” Tripoli that the rebels had “inspired the world.”
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-skeptics/libya-failed-state-its-
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I lump the establishment warhawk Republicans along with the establishment neocon/"humanistic interventionist" Democrats ... they ALL belong in the trash.

Not overlooking the faults of the Bush/Graham/Rubio/McCain (a moment of silence forMcCain's tumor) and not overlooking the faults of Obama/Clinton/Biden/Feinstein gang either.

TRUMP IS NOT LIKE EITHER OF THEM. WHICH IS WHY THE DEEP STATE HAS WORKED SO HARD TO LEVER HIM OUT.

Would that YOU would be half as reality-oriented!

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Speaking of stability ... if REAVERBOT and SECONDRATE and TWITCHY had to put up with HALF of the shit that Trump had had to put up with .... like, politically-motivated prosecutions of family and friends, and a constant campaign of libel in the press ... they would have gone postal a long time ago. Considering that Trump has had to weather a constant coup attempt based on lies, innuendo, bullshit and insults, I think he's reacted pretty damn well.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The IRS has Trump's tax returns.

Get over it, bitch.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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SIGNYM:
Speaking of stability ... if REAVERBOT and SECONDRATE and TWITCHY had to put up with HALF of the shit that Trump had had to put up with .... like, politically-motivated prosecutions of family and friends, and a constant campaign of libel in the press ... they would have gone postal a long time ago. Considering that Trump has had to weather a constant coup attempt based on lies, innuendo, bullshit and insults, I think he's reacted pretty damn well.

SECONDRATE: Remember Trump's tax returns? All he had to do is call his accountant, but he won't. Instead, he takes the case to the Supreme Court. Trump is an idiot since he paid all taxes. Or did he? But Trump's tax returns keep making front page news because he won't call the accountant. That is pure crazy he won't pick up the phone.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
It's occurred to me that Trump might be making a big deal about things like his taxes which are in truth NOT A PROBLEM simply to keep democrats chasing after non-issues, waste their time, and make them look stupid in the end.

OH silly me, what am I saying? The democrats don't need any help either chasing after irrelevancies, wasting time, or looking stupid.

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It's occurred to me that Trump might be making a big deal about things like his taxes which are in truth NOT A PROBLEM simply to keep democrats chasing after non-issues, waste their time, and make them look stupid in the end.

OH silly me, what am I saying? The democrats don't need any help either chasing after irrelevancies, wasting time, or looking stupid.

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Did you know that tax collection is down? It is not simply the pandemic because it started at the beginning of Trump's term, not this year. The rich are following Trump's example of not paying all their taxes. They know, even without having seen his 10 years of returns before 2016 or his 3 years since then, that Trump is cheating and he is getting away with it because IRS auditing of the rich is a joke.

Tax collection is Trump's responsibility. If Trump was not crazy, he would not be sending out these LOUD signals to all wealthy taxpayers that they can follow his criminal example and also not pay. Who is paying?

Republican vice presidential candidate Mike Pence, in a break with Donald Trump, released a decade's worth of tax returns Friday.
www.politico.com/story/2016/09/mike-pence-tax-returns-227980

Upper echelon cheating is spreading to mid echelon taxpayers. Trump's example of cheating spread to his mild-mannered V.P.: Vice President Mike Pence has filed three tax returns since taking office, but he hasn't publicly released any of them.
www.wsj.com/articles/pences-tax-returns-like-trumps-stay-out-of-sight-
11556011800

I realize that paying taxes is not important to 1kiki and Signym since trolls don't pay for the vast programs they want passed by Congress. 6ix doesn't have any income, so he doesn't care that other people aren't paying taxes while Trump, his crazy hero, is President.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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6ix doesn't have any income, so he doesn't care that other people aren't paying taxes while Trump, his crazy hero, is President.

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It's occurred to me that Trump might be making a big deal about things like his taxes which are in truth NOT A PROBLEM simply to keep democrats chasing after non-issues, waste their time, and make them look stupid in the end.

OH silly me, what am I saying? The democrats don't need any help either chasing after irrelevancies, wasting time, or looking stupid.

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Did you know that tax collection is down? It is not simply the pandemic because it started at the beginning of Trump's term, not this year. The rich are following Trump's example of not paying all their taxes. They know, even without having seen his 10 years of returns before 2016 or his 3 years since then, that Trump is cheating and he is getting away with it because IRS auditing of the rich is a joke.

Tax collection is Trump's responsibility. If Trump was not crazy, he would not be sending out these LOUD signals to all wealthy taxpayers that they can follow his criminal example and also not pay. Who is paying?

Republican vice presidential candidate Mike Pence, in a break with Donald Trump, released a decade's worth of tax returns Friday.
www.politico.com/story/2016/09/mike-pence-tax-returns-227980

Upper echelon cheating is spreading to mid echelon taxpayers. Trump's example of cheating spread to his mild-mannered V.P.: Vice President Mike Pence has filed three tax returns since taking office, but he hasn't publicly released any of them.
www.wsj.com/articles/pences-tax-returns-like-trumps-stay-out-of-sight-
11556011800

I realize that paying taxes is not important to 1kiki and Signym since trolls don't pay for the vast programs they want passed by Congress. 6ix doesn't have any income, so he doesn't care that other people aren't paying taxes while Trump, his crazy hero, is President.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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More lies, innuendo, bullshit and insults from SECONDRATE.

Son, everyone knows you're batshit crazy, with a burning one-sided hatred for all things Republican ever since you were stupid enough to sign up for war in SE Asia. You've got one grotch, and you blather about it endlessly. You're stupid, and worse- you're irrelevant.

Why don't you take your crazy to a psych? We don't do free counseling here.

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6ix doesn't have any income, so he doesn't care that other people aren't paying taxes while Trump, his crazy hero, is President.

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I'm still paying property taxes for other people's kids NOT to go to school. Because lockdown.

I won't mention what they turned the local grade school into, since that would probably aide in any doxxing attempts, but let's just say that the local grade school is no longer even a grade school.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

More lies, innuendo, bullshit and insults from SECONDRATE.

Son, everyone knows you're batshit crazy, with a burning one-sided hatred for all things Republican ever since you were stupid enough to sign up for war in SE Asia. You've got one grotch, and you blather about it endlessly. You're stupid, and worse- you're irrelevant.

Why don't you take your crazy to a psych? We don't do free counseling here.

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Originally posted by THG:
Tick tock second, tick tock

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup.

2 nights until Biden is destroyed on national TV.

Tick Tock.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Trump demands they both be drug tested immediately before or after the debate.


I'd much rather know that Biden doesn't need a shot in the ass of those CIA level drugs to stand up straight and talk coherently for 2 hours than whatever you think you're going to find in those tax documents that the IRS has had since forever, long before Trump was president. You fucking idiot.

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Originally posted by second:
How many tick tocks does it take before a Trump voter realizes that Trump can completely and finally end all speculation about his sanity by simply making one phone call to his accountant to release his income tax returns?

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How many tick tocks does it take before a Trump voter realizes that Trump can completely and finally end all speculation about his sanity by simply making one phone call to his accountant to release his income tax returns?

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The problem with every single one of your claims, from 'golden showers' and 'kompromat' and 'collusion' on forward is that, when examined, they've proven to be false.

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And the words "Russian collusion" were Trump's words, but what Mueller investigated was "Russian interference"

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And the words "Russian collusion" were Trump's words, but what Mueller investigated was "Russian interference"

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Nice red herring! Because what the FBI investigated was "collusion".

You're a pathological liar.

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And the words "Russian collusion" were Trump's words, but what Mueller investigated was "Russian interference" in the 2016 election.

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I only went to July, 2017 in this list of everything you got wrong.

Your record of shilling every phony claim - and being wrong - is quite stellar.

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Where's the evidence?

Or am I supposed to just trust you - and them - after so many (let's graciously call them) errors?

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So, no evidence?

I figured as much.

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SECONDRATE: And the words "Russian collusion" were Trump's words, but what Mueller investigated was "Russian interference"

SIGNY: Nice red herring! Because what the FBI investigated was "collusion".

You're a pathological liar.

SECONDRATE: Signym, you are verging on being as crazy as Trump. The documents are still out there and these say "interfere", not "collude".

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