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Covington 2: George Floyd Boogaloo
Thursday, August 6, 2020 11:36 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Thursday, August 6, 2020 10:22 PM
Friday, August 7, 2020 9:00 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Now, with the leak of the police body-camera footage of the arrest of George Floyd, we have confirmation of what sensible people suspected all along: George Floyd was not a victim of police brutality or injustice. The story we had been sold was that, for no good reason, Floyd was thrown to the ground by a brutal cop, Derek Chauvin, who then put his knee on Floyd’s neck for nearly nine minutes while Floyd pled that he could not breathe, choking him to death. Based on this story, Derek Chauvin was fired and indicted for murder, and the three other cops who assisted him were fired and indicted for aiding and abetting murder. Also based on this story, America has been convulsed by more than two months of race riots, which have killed dozens, injured countless others, and destroyed billions of dollars in property and countless livelihoods. There were many facts that did not fit this story, however. George Floyd’s autopsy revealed that he wasn’t suffocated. Instead, he died of heart failure. He was suffering from heart disease and COVID-19. He also had the opioid fentanyl in his system as well as methamphetamine. The medical examiner said these drugs contributed to this death. (He also had traces of cannabis.) Beyond that, Floyd was apprehended before he could drive off, clearly intoxicated, after trying to pass a counterfeit bill. Should the police have allowed him to just drive away? Obviously not. They had to do something to get Floyd out of his car and away from the public so he could not endanger himself or others. The person who called the police reported that Floyd was acting strangely, which in all likelihood meant that he was intoxicated or mentally ill, thus not to be trifled with. It turns out that Floyd had a long criminal record, including an armed robbery in which held a gun to the stomach of a pregnant woman. In short, George Floyd was a real piece of shit. Moreover, putting a knee on an uncooperative suspect’s neck is an approved police control technique, so how could Chauvin be indicted for murder? Finally, there was never any evidence that race played any role in Floyd’s death. He was not arrested because he was black, but because he committed a crime. He was not forcibly restrained because he was black, but because he was uncooperative. Two of the four officers were non-white. The claim that race had anything to do with Floyd’s death at all was simply a baseless assertion amplified and endlessly repeated by the media and BLM agitators. But now we know that it was all a fraud. What does the police body camera footage reveal? First of all, it reveals that George Floyd was dishonest, uncooperative, and acted deranged and scary. Floyd claimed that he had just lost his mother (he hadn’t). He claimed to be too claustrophobic to get in the police car, which was a lie because he was not too claustrophobic to sit in his own car. He claimed twice that he was not on drugs, falsely. He refused repeatedly to allow the police to cuff him. He refused repeatedly to get in the police car. He claimed multiple times that he could not breathe before he ended up on the ground with Chauvin’s knee on his neck. Obviously he was lying before that, so it made sense for Chauvin to disbelieve him when Floyd was on the ground. And, in any case, remember that the medical examiner said Floyd did not die of asphyxiation. Second, the video reveals that the police dealt with Floyd with a level of patience and professionalism that I certainly could not have mustered. One cannot say that Chauvin lost his patience or lashed out at Floyd. Ask yourself, dear reader, would you have been able to maintain your cool in the same situation? I know I would have snapped. I was thinking “Couldn’t we just arm police with tranquilizer darts to bring these beasts down?” This video gives me nothing but respect for the police who have to deal day in and day out with deranged criminals like George Floyd. Was George Floyd a victim of injustice? No, he died because (1) he committed a crime, (2) refused to comply with the police, and (3) was so high on drugs that he was not up to the rigors of being forcibly arrested. If he hadn’t done any of those things, he — and a lot of other people — would still be alive today. George Floyd’s death was entirely his fault. It wasn’t murder. It was the predictable result of Floyd’s own bad character and bad choices. It was his just desserts. George Floyd got justice.
Friday, August 7, 2020 10:15 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Friday, August 7, 2020 10:41 AM
Friday, August 7, 2020 10:52 AM
Friday, August 7, 2020 11:13 AM
Friday, August 7, 2020 11:24 AM
Friday, August 7, 2020 11:37 AM
REAVERFAN
Friday, August 7, 2020 7:06 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:George Floyd got justice. Gonna let that simmer for a bit with the question: How would YOU have handled Flyod? (SECOND is probably thinking: "I would have just shot him.")
Quote:George Floyd got justice.
Friday, August 7, 2020 7:24 PM
WISHIMAY
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: This wasn't racism, and it certainly wasn't murder.
Friday, August 7, 2020 8:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Floyd was in cuffs. And btw his struggling could have been due to the fact he was suffocating from heart failure and struggling to breathe. Believe me, due to my stints in various hospitals but especially a very large county hospital I've seen big burly dudes on PCP safely restrained and brought in, by EMTs no less, not police. And Floyd was nothing even remotely like that. (That's something I'm sure you haven't seen.) Once a person is in cuffs the situation is under far greater control and the person shouldn't be subjected to tasers, dog-piling, neck restraints, or prone positioning. ETA: once cuffs are on in terms of getting out of restraints there's only 3 options I know of - break the cuffs (my since-retired cop friend tells me that's not likely), break your bones (I haven't seen it but I'm sure it's happened with strong people on PCP), or slip your cuffs for example by bringing your hands down and forward and squeezing your butt and legs through (a few very flexible small people have managed that).
Friday, August 7, 2020 9:18 PM
Friday, August 7, 2020 10:55 PM
Saturday, August 8, 2020 3:09 AM
Saturday, August 8, 2020 5:14 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: A day and a half passes before half-brain and the split-brain chimed in. Did they need the Legacy Media to give them their opinion before they could post it? Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saturday, August 8, 2020 9:33 AM
Sunday, August 9, 2020 4:22 AM
Sunday, August 9, 2020 4:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by WISHIMAY: I know, how 'bout we put a 150 lb weight on the back of your neck for 10 minutes while recovering from the flu and see just how hard it is for your to keep breathing. Dumbass
Sunday, August 9, 2020 7:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: May be stupid, but NOT RACIST. I agree with SIX on that. The problem is, the police reacted LIKE POLICE: they tried to impose their authority when the situation was a medical one, which they didn't recognize. We expect cops to deal with assholes and criminals all the time. And there ARE really bad people out there; gangbangers like where our housekeeper lived who kidnapped her husband and made him take money out of the ATM at regular intervals, kidnapped her grandmother and stole her purse, and threatened her two daughters with rape. (This family was targeted bc one of the gang members wanted to live where THEY lived, and were trying to drive them out.) It was scary stuff. But then when they run into someone who's high, or crazy, or sick, or all of the above, we expect them to take off their police hats and put on their EMT hats and get all empathetic. It's not possible; at least, not for a lot of people. The police need to have an "out": someone who they can call to deal with the crazy, drunk, sick, high people. Like I said: maybe with a tranquilizer dart.
Sunday, August 9, 2020 9:45 AM
Sunday, August 9, 2020 10:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Cops are basically free to murder people without consequence. Fascists love that, because they're racists, too. They're only happy when others are being abused and murdered for not looking like them. That's 6's America, and his tiny brainlet loves to feed on hate. It defines him.
Sunday, August 9, 2020 11:28 AM
Sunday, August 9, 2020 11:31 AM
Sunday, August 9, 2020 11:44 AM
Quote:SECOND: American police kill 3 times more often than police in any other country. That needs a better explanation than you are giving.
Monday, August 10, 2020 5:45 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Actually, the footage shows a lot that was unexpected because of how the Legacy Media portrayed it. They've even duped me twice now. When the Covington incident happened, I said the kid looked like he was seething with hate under that smile. When the Floyd incident happened, I said that these were murderous cops.
Monday, August 10, 2020 5:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: That doesn't look like murder to me. Having a hard time finding any racism either. In fact, I think everyone was pretty patient and calm given that this beast of a dude was obviously drugged out of his mind and acting paranoid and extremely sketchy. This footage would make for a very boring Rage Against the Machine music video. TBTB are going to have to realize that cameras being everywhere are going to make it harder for them to push their narrative. It's absolutely abhorrent that this footage wasn't shown since day one, and we're only seeing it 2 months later. Despite the video having over 4.5 million views, YouTube is suppressing it by keeping it off trending and burying the search results under videos that only have a few thousand views. The Legacy Media needs to go. And they can take Antifa and BLM with them. Maybe when Trump wins in November they can all go to California and split off from the union.
Monday, August 10, 2020 6:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I was wondering about that when you were piling on, overreacting. I wasn't much surprised at kiki. You were so gullible each time, you are sure to be again. This is derived from the template of Entertainment Network CNN, which they changed to after their huge ratings boost from the OJ chase at 25mph on the Interstate, and then the trial. That's how they duped you all with the Rodney King Fake Trial. And all of their scams ever since OJ.
Monday, August 10, 2020 10:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Actually, the footage shows a lot that was unexpected because of how the Legacy Media portrayed it. They've even duped me twice now. When the Covington incident happened, I said the kid looked like he was seething with hate under that smile. When the Floyd incident happened, I said that these were murderous cops. I was wondering about that when you were piling on, overreacting. I wasn't much surprised at kiki. You were so gullible each time, you are sure to be again. This is derived from the template of Entertainment Network CNN, which they changed to after their huge ratings boost from the OJ chase at 25mph on the Interstate, and then the trial. That's how they duped you all with the Rodney King Fake Trial. And all of their scams ever since OJ.
Monday, August 10, 2020 10:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: It's not as if police in the US are mutants genetically different from police around the globe. If police kill more people here, maybe there are causes we could look at. Here's a per capita list courtesy of wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_by_country Now, there are a lot of caveats to this data, but not enough to obscure the pattern I see. Can you see it too?
Monday, August 10, 2020 11:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JACKAREN: MORE TROLLING FROM THE TROLL
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 3:10 AM
Quote:SIX: I'm one of the most skeptical people I know, and they got me twice. Unlike a lot of people, this deeply shames me. And somebody like Karen wonders why I don't believe anything about The Coomph panic.
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 11:48 AM
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 2:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Are you alright with the Mayor of Los Angeles turning off water and power to houses that don't comply with the virus related mandates? Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 4:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by WISHIMAY: I know, how 'bout we put a 150 lb weight on the back of your neck for 10 minutes while recovering from the flu and see just how hard it is for your to keep breathing. May be stupid, but NOT RACIST. I agree with SIX on that. The problem is, the police reacted LIKE POLICE: they tried to impose their authority when the situation was a medical one, which they didn't recognize. We expect cops to deal with assholes and criminals all the time. And there ARE really bad people out there; gangbangers like where our housekeeper lived who kidnapped her husband and made him take money out of the ATM at regular intervals, kidnapped her grandmother and stole her purse, and threatened her two daughters with rape. (This family was targeted bc one of the gang members wanted to live where THEY lived, and were trying to drive them out.) It was scary stuff. But then when they run into someone who's high, or crazy, or sick, or all of the above, we expect them to take off their police hats and put on their EMT hats and get all empathetic. It's not possible; at least, not for a lot of people. The police need to have an "out": someone who they can call to deal with the crazy, drunk, sick, high people. Like I said: maybe with a tranquilizer dart.
Quote:Originally posted by WISHIMAY: I know, how 'bout we put a 150 lb weight on the back of your neck for 10 minutes while recovering from the flu and see just how hard it is for your to keep breathing.
Tuesday, August 11, 2020 5:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Are you alright with the Mayor of Los Angeles turning off water and power to houses that don't comply with the virus related mandates? Do Right, Be Right. :)Maybe you don't understand how things work. Lord Garcetti of the Barony L.A. is ruler of his subjects within his domain. It is not as if he must conform to the wishes of constituents who elected him. Only he can comprehend the greatness that he is, above the unwashed masses beneath him.
Thursday, August 20, 2020 6:19 PM
Thursday, August 20, 2020 6:24 PM
Wednesday, August 26, 2020 4:49 PM
Wednesday, August 26, 2020 6:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: OPPS Fuck George Floyd, and FUCK the Legacy Media liars. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Wednesday, August 26, 2020 9:26 PM
Wednesday, August 26, 2020 10:05 PM
Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:48 AM
Quote:Drunk? Drunk in public is illegal in most places, also known as public intoxication, disturbing the peace. Call the cops for illegl activity. High on illicit drugs in pubic? That is illegal in most places. Call the cops. Crazy? Acting Libtard is allowed in many places. It is only when combined with other, illegal activites when problems arise. Sick? Then you shouldn't be committing felonies where you will lose your freedom to get better.
Thursday, August 27, 2020 4:33 AM
Quote:They (LAPD union) told him to go ahead and have his staffers handle it. They've got shit to do, yanno... with all the rioting going on.
Thursday, August 27, 2020 5:41 AM
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Quote: OPPS Fuck George Floyd, and FUCK the Legacy Media liars.
Thursday, August 27, 2020 10:22 AM
Thursday, August 27, 2020 10:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: If George Floyd was at home, George Floyd was going to die at home. End of story. Period. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, August 27, 2020 11:05 AM
Thursday, August 27, 2020 1:49 PM
Quote:If George Floyd was at home, George Floyd was going to die at home. End of story. Period.
Thursday, August 27, 2020 1:52 PM
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