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What if Biden wins in 2020?
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 3:26 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 3:39 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 6:33 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 8:19 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 8:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Why don't you try writing 'What if Trump wins?' an essay about GOP flaws.
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 8:34 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Why don't you try writing 'What if Trump wins?' an essay about GOP flaws. Every Legacy Media story 24/7 for the last going on 4 years wasn't enough for you, huh? That's okay. When Trump wins in November you'll get 4 more of them. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 9:11 AM
REAVERFAN
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 9:27 AM
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:20 AM
THG
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:36 AM
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:44 AM
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 11:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Trump will not win. The trackers are looking at this election from every angle. Something they didn't do last time. You can put this in the predictions thread. Biden wins in a landslide...Democrat's win back the Senate. T Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 11:40 AM
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 11:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: lol Ted. You're hilarious buddy. Do try not to kill yourself on November 4th. I don't want to be robbed of the lolz. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 12:28 PM
Quote:Oh, no. For sure the Dems will institute single-payer!
Quote: Joe Biden, friend of the working class, will decouple from China and re-industrialize America!
Quote:The DNC is above identity politics and would NEVER foment racial division in the USA!
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 1:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by THG: Trump will not win. The trackers are looking at this election from every angle. Something they didn't do last time. You can put this in the predictions thread. Biden wins in a landslide...Democrat's win back the Senate. T Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 2:00 PM
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 5:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by THG: Trump will not win. The trackers are looking at this election from every angle. Something they didn't do last time. You can put this in the predictions thread. Biden wins in a landslide...Democrat's win back the Senate. T Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others. If Trump stopped acting like a complete idiot about the pandemic, he could pull even with Biden. If Trump can humble Biden, or Biden does it to himself, Trump pulls ahead. If all else fails, Trump has the NSA to use their electronic magic to just plain cheat by changing the vote count. I would not bet my life that Trump loses. But it depends on Trump to stop acting like a fool. I don't know if he can. Maybe. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 5:41 PM
WISHIMAY
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, does anybody dispute those ideas? Was is just an oversight that you forgot to support the DNC? Or do you also think the DNC is a bag of worthless, corrupt politicians who have no vision for our future?
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 5:45 PM
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 5:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I noriced that NOBODY disputed the ideas in my post. NOBODY came forward and posted ...
Quote: ***** All criticism of Trump (... BUT DONALD!...), no actual support for the Democratic Party. So, does anybody dispute those ideas? Was is just an oversight that you forgot to support the DNC? Or do you also think the DNC is a bag of worthless, corrupt politicians who have no vision for our future? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 6:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by THG: Trump will not win. The trackers are looking at this election from every angle. Something they didn't do last time. You can put this in the predictions thread. Biden wins in a landslide...Democrat's win back the Senate. T Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others. If Trump stopped acting like a complete idiot about the pandemic, he could pull even with Biden. If Trump can humble Biden, or Biden does it to himself, Trump pulls ahead. If all else fails, Trump has the NSA to use their electronic magic to just plain cheat by changing the vote count. I would not bet my life that Trump loses. But it depends on Trump to stop acting like a fool. I don't know if he can. Maybe. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly Trumps made up his mind. He's going full on negative. It doesn't matter what his minders think or say. Besides, Trump has surrounded himself with incompetent's who give nothing but bad advice. Trump has been running against Biden for 6 months now and it just keeps getting worse for him. He's hitting Biden with everything he can think of, including lie upon lie and nothing works. Unless Biden gets sick it's over. Remember folks, mail in voting is about to start and Biden will be leading by double digits when it does. This shits over. Stop being afraid. tick tock T Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 7:41 PM
Tuesday, July 21, 2020 7:56 PM
Quote:SIGNYM: So, does anybody dispute those ideas? Was is just an oversight that you forgot to support the DNC? Or do you also think the DNC is a bag of worthless, corrupt politicians who have no vision for our future? WISHY We just don't care what YOU think about it. You are the worthless tool who is so narcissistic you think enslaving the population to your brand of corrupt leaders will work better than any other brand of corrupt leaders. As long as people are allowed top rule other people, all resultant systems are corrupt.
Thursday, July 23, 2020 4:35 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Thursday, July 23, 2020 6:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: My concern is that the corrupt leadership with Biden wouldn't be Biden himself or the DNC, but some nameless, faceless, unreachable technocrats in Basel, or Singapore, or the City of London, or Beijing.
Saturday, July 25, 2020 12:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: First Presidential portrait of a burka. Also, thanks Haken for the system reset - there were no replies being posted for a bit there.
Saturday, July 25, 2020 1:01 PM
Saturday, July 25, 2020 2:41 PM
Sunday, November 15, 2020 9:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: lol Who's shitting? Trump's already run away with it. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, November 15, 2020 10:43 AM
Monday, November 30, 2020 5:13 PM
Friday, December 4, 2020 7:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Fake News narrative is that Sloppy Joe The Pretender managed to injure his "ankle" while his dog was walking him. Is this the last we will hear of Joe until his death is announced? Will the next Fake News that we hear be about finding a knife in his back him dying from Covid? Can any of you Libs share the upcoming timeline? Must not announce his death until after Electoral College confirms Kamala as Veep, then Joe Death announced, then Veep Nancy selected, Then Veep Nancy declares she will remain Speaker while also serving as Veep? Is that it?
Saturday, December 5, 2020 1:49 AM
Saturday, December 5, 2020 12:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: WaPo Private-sector ties complicate Biden’s efforts to staff next administration Key figures selected by the president-elect have worked for major tech firms, managed Persian Gulf state money or helped companies do business overseas. By Michael Scherer, Tom Hamburger and Carol D. Leonnig https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-transition-ethics-conflicts/2020/12/04/a36d783a-34b1-11eb-a997-1f4c53d2a747_story.html And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
Tuesday, December 8, 2020 10:42 PM
Wednesday, December 9, 2020 7:34 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: House approves defense bill with veto-proof majority after Trump urges GOP opposition The $740 billion bill ... (passed) 335-78 https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/08/politics/defense-bill-house-vote-trump-veto-threat/index.html If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better? And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.
Wednesday, December 9, 2020 7:36 AM
Saturday, December 12, 2020 1:02 PM
Monday, January 4, 2021 4:58 AM
JAYNEZTOWN
Monday, January 4, 2021 10:00 AM
Monday, January 4, 2021 11:17 AM
Thursday, January 21, 2021 12:48 PM
Monday, January 25, 2021 3:54 AM
Monday, January 25, 2021 4:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Well, first of all, Biden is an empty suit, so someone else would be running the country. The Obama/Clinton/Pelosi gang? Deeper into the swamp, the deep state and transnationals? Whoever would be in charge would LOVE Biden to be President because he wouldn't have an independent thought in his head. He would never travel the globe or speak with other foreign heads of state. He would never hold live press conferences. Everything would be pre-recorded in five-second sound bites. But I digress. All of the investigations into the political corruption of our security agencies would be shitcanned, as well as any investigation of Biden's and the Clintons' financial corruption. More importantly, the Democrats would use the oppty to solidify their hold on power inDC. Make DC the 51st state? Offer instant citizenship to illegal immigrants? Change voting rules? Get rid of the electoral college? What would they DO with that power? Well, there are some things for sure they wouldn't do: They wouldn't institute single payer because they're just as beholden to big pharma, hospital corporations, and insurances as Republicans, maybe more so. They would never re-industrialize the USA bc the Obama/Clinton/Pelosi wing of the party has been pushing for offshoring American jobs as long as establishment Republicans. After all, how would Apple make its unconscionable profits if it had to assemble its phones in the USA? They wouldn't REALLY reduce the wealth gap (altho they might make a show of it) because their donors belong to the international elites, who they don't want to piss off or drive away. They WOULDN'T be able, or even willing, to fix Covid-19-induced economic problems. The would probably want another bite of the Syrian/Libyan/Ukrainian/Iranian apples because it didn't go the way they planned. But because Russia and China would be standing in the way of their plans, hostility towards the other major powers would also increase. BTW, "interventions" would be framed as "humanitarian" bombings. They would probably want to revitalize NATO, but the EU itself may not welcome such a move- Germany in particular. And while the USA may want to "re-set" its relationships with major powers, it's unlikely to bear much fruit. Even if the people behind Biden want to institute the JPCOA with Iran, it will not cause Iran to undo the $400 BILLION dollar deal that it just inked with China, and neither China nor Russia are likely to succumb to the blandishments of the internationalists. (Russia because it knows better, and China because the 2008 collapse opened their eyes to the fact that, no, the western economy really DOESN'T know what it's doing.) The only wildcard in this sphere is India. OH, AND REPORTING ON COVID-19 WOULD CHANGE DRAMATICALLY. The facts on the ground woudn't change, but you wouldn't get that drumbeat of statistics. I think the press would wind up ignoring the story. So, since life-altering economic, healthcare, or foreign policy changes are not in the wind, what WILL the DNC do? Well, my guess is that it will focus on identity politics morning, noon, and night. There will be all kinds of drama and meaningless concessions and speeches by politicians wearing kente cloth, and they and their base will try to outdo each other in "purity" tests: who can be the least racist/sexist/*ist and the most pure? It will be like something after the French revolution and the Reign of Terror, except instead of losing their heads people will lose their reputations and their jobs. After four years of totally meaningless and pointless drama, nothing will be better than before.
Wednesday, January 27, 2021 7:10 PM
Quote: POLITICO Biden starts staffing a commission on Supreme Court reform He pushed the idea as a candidate during the Amy Coney Barrett confirmation fight. Now, he’s getting it going. By TYLER PAGER 01/27/2021 12:14 PM EST The Biden administration is moving forward with the creation of a bipartisan commission to study reforms to the Supreme Court and the federal judiciary. The commission will be housed under the purview of the White House Counsel’s office and filled out with the behind-the-scenes help of the Biden campaign’s lawyer Bob Bauer, who will co-chair the commission. Its specific mandate is still being decided. But, in a signal that the commission is indeed moving ahead, some members have already been selected, according to multiple people familiar with the discussions. Among those who will be on the commission are Cristina Rodríguez, a professor at Yale Law School and a former deputy assistant attorney general in the Obama Department of Justice, who will join Bauer as co-chair. Caroline Fredrickson, the former president of the American Constitution Society, and Jack Goldsmith, a Harvard Law School professor and a former assistant attorney general in the Bush Department of Justice, will also serve on the commission, those familiar with discussions said. Fredrickson has hinted that she is intellectually supportive of ideas like court expansion. In 2019, she said in an interview with Eric Lesh, the executive director of the LGBT Bar Association and Foundation of Greater New York: “I often point out to people who aren't lawyers that the Supreme Court is not defined as ‘nine person body’ in the Constitution, and it has changed size many times.” Rodríguez’s opinions on court reforms are less clear. Goldsmith’s selection, meanwhile, is likely to be the one to frustrate progressives. A senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Goldsmith did not support Trump and is a friend and co-author of Bauer. But he was a vocal advocate of Brett Kavanaugh’s appointment to the high court — an appointment that sparked Democratic advocacy for expanding the number of Supreme Court seats. “He will also be an influential figure within the Supreme Court building,” Goldsmith wrote in 2018 about Kavanaugh in a Time article titled, “Brett Kavanaugh Will Right the Course of the Supreme Court.” “He is a brilliant analyst with a deep scholarly and practical knowledge of the law. His legal opinions are unusually accessible. He is a magnanimous soul.” Bauer, who is not planning to go into the administration full-time, is himself a proponent of term limits for federal judges. He has been helping with the creation of the commission and, according to a person familiar with the deliberations, initially proposed the idea of forming a commission to study the issue of court reform. “The President remains committed to an expert study of the role and debate over reform of the court and will have more to say in the coming weeks," a White House official said in a statement. The recruitment of members is still ongoing, but a source familiar with the discussion expects between nine and 15 members total to be appointed to the commission. Rodríguez and Goldsmith did not respond to a request for comment, and Fredrickson declined to comment. The idea for a commission came together amid the push by Republican senators to confirm Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court in the weeks before the November election. Under intense pressure to consider reforms to the Supreme Court’s composition — including court expansion — Biden performed a classic Washington, D.C., punt. He announced in October that if he was elected, he would form such a commission to study structural changes. But Biden also conceded he is “not a fan of court packing.” "The last thing we need to do is turn the Supreme Court into just a political football, whoever has the most votes gets whatever they want," Biden said in a “60 Minutes” interview in October. "Presidents come and go. Supreme Court justices stay for generations."
Quote: Progressive groups pushing for court expansion responded with skepticism to Biden’s announcement at the time. And they’ve remained skeptical to this day. “Commissions are often places where ideas go to die and there is no time on the clock to reform the court,” said Aaron Belkin, the director of Take Back the Court, a progressive group advocating for adding seats to the Supreme Court. “The entire agenda of what needs to get done is in jeopardy thanks to stolen federal courts.” “We know,” he added, “that court expansion is the only strategy to allow the administration to solve the problems facing the country.” An administration official said the commission is part of a broader court review and reform effort, part of which will focus on lower courts. Progressives’ push to expand the Supreme Court was reenergized after Democrats won both Georgia Senate runoff races in January, giving them control of all three branches of government for the first time since 2010. But any major structural reform would still be a heavy lift, as several Democratic senators have signaled their opposition to such measures. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said Monday he was waiting for Biden’s commission to decide a path forward on reforms to the Supreme Court. “President Biden has put together this commission to come up with a report in 180 days,” he said in an MSNBC interview this week. “We’re going to see what the commission says and go from there.”
Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:36 AM
Friday, January 29, 2021 12:33 AM
Quote: Democrats Introduce Senate Bill To Make D.C. The 51st State Authored by Jonathan Turley, Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.) and other Democratic senators are introducing a bill for D.C. statehood today, a proposal with heavy opposition in the public in continuing polls. Indeed, the bill was one of the reasons that members and advocates demanded the killing of the filibuster rule to force through the change in status based on a bare majority. If successful, it would give the Democrats two more senators in a city-state that will expected to remain reliably blue. I have testified repeatedly on this issue. There are strong arguments for changing the status of the District and statehood is a viable option. It would clearly be constitutional unlike past proposals. The question is whether it is the best option for the country. Roughly 20 years ago, I proposed a “modified retrocession plan” that would be an alternative if the Congress wanted full voting rights for citizens of the District. The proposal would make create the first city-state in our history with a population of 700,000. However, half of the country opposes the idea. A new Harris/Hill poll shows fifty-two percent of respondents said they favored statehood while 48 percent said they opposed it. That is heavy opposition for such a statehood change. Biden just unveiled another proposal with heavy public opposition: a commission that would allow court-packing or other structural changes on the Court to blunt the conservative majority. I have written a long academic publication on the status of the District of Columbia and testified at the prior hearings on allowing for voting representation of District residents. See Jonathan Turley, Too Clever By Half: The Partial Representation of the District of Columbia in the House of Representatives, 76 George Washington University Law Review 305-374 (2008). I also testified in both the House and Senate repeatedly on such proposals. The debate over D.C. statehood is a complex issue with historical, constitutional, and legal dimensions. It is also an issue with important and unresolved racial issues of a black-majority city without direct representation in Congress. I have previously voiced my view that such lack of representation for the District is unacceptable and untenable in our country. In all, I have testified five times in the House and the Senate on this issue in Congress, particularly on the effort to simply give the District a vote in the House of Representatives. I encouraged the Congress to avoid such flagrantly unconstitutional measures of a vote as a non-state entity and instead focus on a vote of statehood or retrocession. That is why I offered a “modified retrocession plan”, which was also discussed in an academic work. Under my proposal, the mall and core federal buildings would remain the District of Columbia (as is the case in this legislation) but the remainder of the District would retrocede back to Maryland (as did the other half of the original District to Virginia). In this way, residents would receive full representation while receiving the benefits of various Maryland educational and other opportunities. That reduction of the federal enclave has been incorporated in some statehood proposals. I believed that such retrocession offered the fastest course for not just full representation but improved social and educational programs for the district residents. I laid out a phased retrocession plan that began with immediate and full representation. This could be done by congressional vote. People of good-faith can disagree on such proposals and the current legislation is clearly a constitutional approach to reaching a final resolution on the lack of representation in Congress. Indeed, it is important to hear from those who believe that statehood is an important step toward dealing with the historical racial inequalities and discrimination in our nation. Modified retrocession may not be enough to resolve such issues for many in our community.
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