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Tuesday, June 30, 2020 7:40 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So you CLAIM.

Whatever.



I'm still seeing no EVIDENCE, and neither are you. And I know you're not seeing evidence because there's none to be had.

That lack of evidence SHOULD give your race into delusion at least a small speed bump. You SHOULD be at least briefly wondering 'where is the EVIDENCE?'.

But you can hardly bother to question what you desperately need to believe even though there's a lack of EVIDENCE.



Meh. Yo' still so crazy and morally twisted.

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Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:00 PM

THG


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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I got as far as Russian Troll™ and stopped reading. You know for a fact I'm not one and yet you lie ... and troll ... and lie some more. I can't even think of one single post of yours that hasn't been a lie and a troll.

So all your posts ... I just shitcan.

But keep digging your own grave for your honesty and sanity. I'm not so nice that I don't cheer a bit inside when I watch you spend all that time and energy turning yourself into an ever more odious moral and mental garbage dump.

I feel so very sorry for you, but you have the same problem Trump has: you can't digest new information that disagrees with old prejudices.




She's a commie troll second and you know that. Lying is her business.

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Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:02 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So, since you seem intent on ducking reality in favor of feeding your hatreds, let me ask this question again - where is the EVIDENCE that any of this is true?

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Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:03 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I got as far as Russian Troll™ and stopped reading. You know for a fact I'm not one and yet you lie ... and troll ... and lie some more. I can't even think of one single post of yours that hasn't been a lie and a troll.

So all your posts ... I just shitcan.

But keep digging your own grave for your honesty and sanity. I'm not so nice that I don't cheer a bit inside when I watch you spend all that time and energy turning yourself into an ever more odious moral and mental garbage dump.

I feel so very sorry for you, but you have the same problem Trump has: you can't digest new information that disagrees with old prejudices.




She's a commie troll second and you know that. Lying is her business.

T


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Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:15 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
So you CLAIM.

Whatever.

I'm still seeing no EVIDENCE, and neither are you.

That SHOULD give your fall into delusion at least a small speed bump. But you can hardly bother to question what you desperately need to believe due to a lack of EVIDENCE.

Meh. Yo' still so crazy.

My daughters, all four of them, went Trick-or-treating in 1990. Next day, they were not to eat the candy until after dinner, but they disobeyed, telling me I couldn't prove they ate it. I had found the candy wrappers. They said, like little lawyers and philosophers of science, "Not proof we ate the candy." Technically, they had not lied to me, but they were trying to mislead me. I said, "I will take you to the hospital and have your stomachs pumped if necessary." Then they gleefully admitted eating the candy. We were all happy that they had not gone the next step to a bald-faced lie.

We know Trump ate the candy and if he wants to prove he did not, his stomach could be pumped and his tax returns and briefing books could be made public to prove he isn't a tax-cheater and prove the Russians did not pay a bounty for murdering Americans. But Trump isn't as honest as four little girls are. He will simply lie and then lie some more and he will continue withholding all evidence of his "innocence". Willfully withholding evidence is evidence.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:42 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


There's one foolproof way to stop me from snickering at you and all of your posts - provide one piece of evidence that what you claim is true.

But in all these years, you haven't been able to do that - not even once.

BTW, yeah, you were an asshole to your children, too and a hypocrite - demanding total honesty from them when you don't even hold yourself down to little white lies and tell large, legally liable whoppers instead.

Jeeze what a corrupt twisted fuck you are.

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Tuesday, June 30, 2020 9:11 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
There's one foolproof way to stop me from snickering at you and all of your posts - provide one piece of evidence that what you claim is true.

But in all these years, you haven't been able to do that - not even once.

BTW, yeah, you were an asshole to your children, too and a hypocrite - demanding total honesty from them when you don't even hold yourself down to little white lies and tell large, legally liable whoppers instead.

Jeeze what a corrupt twisted fuck you are.

What is this thing you have about protecting Trump's reputation? If he won't protect his reputation by willingly showing the proof of his innocence, which he has on documents such as his briefing books and tax returns, assuming he actually is innocent, then he is giving evidence he is guilty. He can't use the 5th amendment to justify withholding evidence that proves him innocent. The 5th is for withholding evidence of guilt and self-incrimination.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, June 30, 2020 9:16 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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SECOND:
What is this thing you have about preferring facts and honesty?

fify

IDK. I guess I prefer reality and integrity to whatever it is you're spewing.

BTW, you still haven't been able to post one single solid piece of EVIDENCE to back up your fantasies.

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Tuesday, June 30, 2020 9:46 PM

SIGNYM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
What you can't seem to digest is the need for EVIDENCE.

EVIDENCE is paramount. A requirement for EVIDENCE would have kept the US out of a lot of disasters it never should have been in in the first place, from Vietnam to Libya. Maybe you should have learned that lesson back then from Vietnam, instead of becoming a nutcase over 'republicans'. Personally, for me, it's made the difference between swallowing shit like the domino theory, WMD!!! and RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! and crediting actual, real things like SARS-CoV-2.

So, since you were unable to answer the question the first time (which speaks volumes about your mental acuity, btw), let me ask it again - what EVIDENCE is there that this is even real?

Truly, the evidence that proves Trump did not let Americans be murdered is in the briefing books which, so far, Trump won't let you see, no more than he will let you see, so far, his income tax returns to prove he does not cheat on taxes. In all the years he has been in office, none of his tax returns have been made public, although he could do it with a phone call to his accountant. He could make the briefing books available with one phone call. Trump won't make those phone calls because he cheated on his taxes and Russia paid a bounty for the murder of Americans.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

So, you have no evidence.

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Tuesday, June 30, 2020 9:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


But we have anonymous sources!!!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:42 AM

SIGNYM

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Meanwhile, everyone who is willing to go on the record denies that Trump was ever briefed.

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Wednesday, July 1, 2020 2:14 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It's just more bullshit.

All the news for the last 3 years is bullshit. Probably much, much longer than that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, July 1, 2020 6:11 AM

THG


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

Circumstantial evidence is indirect evidence which creates an inference from which a main fact may be inferred. For example, circumstantial evidence of a murder is not based on first-hand eyewitness.

Since Trump has taken office the circumstantial evidence of his crimes is endless. The direct evidence of his crimes has been exposed in people testifying under oath. There is also the fact that many at the DOJ believe you cannot indict a sitting president protecting him for now.

Tick tock, it's coming...

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Wednesday, July 1, 2020 7:02 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


THUGR: Apparently you have yet to figure out the difference between allegation and evidence. Just because some people say something doesn't make it true, especially when those people have been known to lie in the past.

Every time the allegations against Trump are investigated in depth, the "evidence" gets weaker and weaker umtil, in the Mueller probe, Ukrainegate, and the Flynn investigation it goes POOF! and disappears altogther.

The EVIDENCE is telling me that there are an awful lot of liars in the spook agencies, and that the M$M dutifully whips those lies into froth, and stupid people lap it up.

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Wednesday, July 1, 2020 7:08 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


DOOD. You have no clue what evidence is, let alone circumstantial evidence.

Evidence is not gossip, or anonymous unverified claims, or claims that someone said that someone said (hearsay).

Sheesh.

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Wednesday, July 1, 2020 7:44 AM

THG



Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:21 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Anything on topic?

Of course not!


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Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:23 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Meanwhile, everyone who is willing to go on the record denies that Trump was ever briefed.

I only bring up Trump's income taxes because that will enlighten you on what Trump is doing about Russian bounties paid for murdering Americans. Trump could prove the Russians did not pay, but he won't provide the proof, which is in his briefing books. Why not? The briefings do not support his lies to protect Putin that Trump is telling about Russia.

All of Trump's accountants deny he cheated on his taxes, but none of them have made Trump's tax returns public knowledge. Trump promised to publicize his tax returns, but then he didn't. All these denials are worthless. It is the tax returns that have value because those would show Trump did not cheat on his taxes. If 67 Senators could have agreed, Trump could have been forced to reveal his tax returns and forced to prove he is innocent. But the GOP Senators wouldn't agree to make the sociopath President stop lying constantly about his taxes. Similarly, the GOP Senators won't force Trump to make his briefing books available to prove he was never warned about Russian bounties to murder Americans.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:29 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Sociopath Trump only bothers sociopath SECOND because Sociopath Trump is richer, more powerful, more well-known, and overall more successful than sociopath SECOND. When sociopath SECOND looks in the mirror he doesn't see a sociopath, he sees a loser sociopath.

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Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:32 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Sociopath Trump only bothers sociopath SECOND because Sociopath Trump is richer, more powerful, more well-known, and overall more successful than sociopath SECOND. When sociopath SECOND looks in the mirror he doesn't see a sociopath, he sees a loser sociopath.

It is classic Trump behavior to withhold the proof that he is innocent, but loudly declare himself innocent. He did that with his income tax cheating. He is doing it again with Russia paying bounties to murder Americans. But maybe Trump and Russia are not innocent! That would explain Trump withholding the proof of innocence.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:56 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by THG:

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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I think this bot has become self aware.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:08 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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SIGNYM: Meanwhile, everyone who is willing to go on the record denies that Trump was ever briefed.

SECOND: I only bring up Trump's income taxes because that will enlighten you on what Trump is doing about

PROBABLY FICTITIOUS
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Russian bounties paid for murdering Americans. Trump could prove the Russians did not pay, but he won't provide the proof, which is in his briefing books. Why not?
Because Trump should not be required to prove his innocence, over and over, to people who maliciously accuse him of everythong under the sun, most of which never happened.

I think I'm going to start accusing YOU, SECOND, with every post, and then demand that you prove your innocence.

YOU do that multiple times a day, calling me a Russian troll and accusing Trump of problems that have been building/in existence for decades. How about the tables being turned?

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Wednesday, July 1, 2020 6:21 PM

THG


Let me see. Will I listen to comrades sig, jack kiki or a navy seal?

T


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Former U.S Navy SEAL Dr. Dan Barkhuff wants to know if Donald Trump is a coward who can't stand up to Putin or if he's complicit.



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Wednesday, July 1, 2020 6:26 PM

THG


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.


Charlie Savage joins Andrea Mitchell to discuss his new reporting in the New York Times that American officials intercepted data showing large financial transfers between Russian intelligence and Taliban-linked accounts.


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Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:38 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.



Should somebody tell Ted how funny it is when he posts this to start off whatever bullshit he's posting?


Nah. Let's just get a good laugh every time he does.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:58 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


THUGR, this is what your post reminds me of



The NYT is the big hippo, and you're the little one.

****

Let's start with MSNBC's spin. MSNBC, you may recall, hosted Rachel Madcow, who spent three years hyperventilating lies.

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"President Trump is facing more questions today about what he knew about 'the reports'.."
WHICH reports?

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"American officials intercepted.."

WHICH officials? This would be the domain of the NSA. The NSA says no such data exists. If it did, then let it be brought forward.

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"...and why he has not taken action"

About reports that may or may not exist, about events which may or may not have happened? What kind of "action" should be taken about something which might not exist?

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"They" have justified this ... "they've" been telling Congress only the first part of the story..."
"They" who? The National Security Council? The CIA? The DNI? The NSA?

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The President has not taken any actions
On something which even the MSNBC host recognizes that is, at this point, only an allegation?? Trump has taken action before, like when he struck Syria with missiles, over allegations that proved to be false. Bush invaded Iraq over allegations that proved to be false. People have rioted over allegations that proved to be false, like "hands up, don't shoot" actually never happened. The Democratic Party took action over collusion that not only never existed, it was fabricated by MI6 and the FBI.

MAYBE if the DNC and other rabid partisans and warhawks would actually insist on EVIDENCE, instead of insisting that people jump at shadows, we'd all be better off.

The whole video was garbage and should be shitcanned, and if people want to stop being useful idiots they should withhold judgment until more reliable info becomes available.



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Thursday, July 2, 2020 12:40 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Looking forward to another day of Ted posting videos made by the neocons behind The Lincoln Project.


Them neocons... They sure are good at giving names to things that belie their true intent. *cough* *cough* PATRIOT ACT *cough* *cough*

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 12:45 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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more fabrications and pointless assertions

fify

You'd think after all this time, you'd be able to cough up one solid piece of evidence for any of your claims. Just one.

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:36 AM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by THG:


Former U.S Navy SEAL Dr. Dan Barkhuff wants to know if Donald Trump is a coward who can't stand up to Putin or if he's complicit.




Don't all *Americans* want to know that.

I fully believe that Trump just thought he could spend his term schmoozing and faking it and make bank for him and his friends. I don't think he expected for a minute that there would be real ramifications to him not giving a single shit about the "details".

I can't believe he's still breathing some days. Any other person on the planet would have been worm food by now.

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:03 AM

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Russia did pay extremists to attack U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan, Taliban sources confirm

Taliban commanders have confirmed that Russia has offered financial and material support to its members in exchange for attacking US forces in Afghanistan.

Three separate Taliban sources told Insider they were aware of Russian bounty payments being made — though they said only the less-disciplined elements on the fringes of the group would take up such an offer.

www.businessinsider.com/russia-did-pay-extremists-attack-american-sold
iers-taliban-sources-say-2020-7


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:15 AM

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Vladimir Putin could rule Russia until 2036. He's already one of the world's longest-serving leaders

Russian President Vladimir Putin is already one of the world's longest-serving leaders, and on Wednesday, voters paved the way for him to rule the country until 2036.

Early referendum results showed overwhelming support for Putin's proposed constitutional reforms, including one that resets the clock on the President's term limit. Should he win the 2024 election and the next one, six years later, Putin could cling onto power until he is 84, pushing his reign to more than 36 years.

Putin has already been in power for over 20 years, coming in at number 14 on a list of the world's longest-serving leaders, excluding royals, who often serve for life.

His longevity has come from shuffling back and forth between the roles of prime minister and president continuously since 1999. He is regarded as an autocratic leader, and while the country holds elections, they are widely seen as undemocratic and designed in his favor. Election monitors said the 2018 presidential vote was "overly controlled" and "lacked genuine competition."

The length of Putin's rule already puts him in the company of autocrats like Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and Rwandan President Paul Kagame, who had the constitution successfully changed so he could extend his rule to 35 years in total.

Should he rule Russia for another two terms, Putin's reign will look more like those of Cameroon's Paul Biya, Equatorial Guinea's Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo, Iran's Ali Khamenei and Cambodia's Hun Sen, all of whom have been in power for more than 35 years.

www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/europe/russia-vladimir-putin-longest-serving-le
aders-intl/index.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:22 AM

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 12:35 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Russia did pay extremists to attack U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan, Taliban sources confirm

Taliban commanders have confirmed that Russia has offered financial and material support to its members in exchange for attacking US forces in Afghanistan.

Three separate Taliban sources told Insider they were aware of Russian bounty payments being made — though they said only the less-disciplined elements on the fringes of the group would take up such an offer.

www.businessinsider.com/russia-did-pay-extremists-attack-american-sold
iers-taliban-sources-say-2020-7



So, how does this square with the report of "bank payments" being tracked to the Taliban? If these are higher-up Taliban members who made these claims, who are these "less disciplined" members getting payments? Does each Taliban member, no matter how lowly or how far out on the "fringe", have their own bank account to which money may be transferred? Or are there bank accounts at the higher Taliban levels, from which payments are distributed internally, and is it these higher-level "fringe" members who are being described as being "less disciplined"? It's hard to see how one allegation squares with the other. It sounds to me more like some Taliban members are making a power grab by weaponizing the allegations.

WHY would the Taliban need to be "incentivized" to kill Americans. Hasn't that been their chief occupation since we invaded, nineteen years ago?. Why would Russian's support these jihadist elements? We did in 1979 (when we called them "freedom fighters" and "mujahideen") when WE were paying them to kill Russians. Why would Russia support a group that led to their ognominious defeat and which is antithetical to their nation?

There is only one American group that I can think of that might need incentive to be ... if not killed, ignored ... and that is the CIA contacts for Afghani drug growing and drug smuggling operations. Everyone knows that Afghanistan is the world's center of opium poppy-growing, and it is widely suspected that the CIA has ties to these operations and it using them as sources of off-book money. Other than that, it seems a waste of money to be paying low-level Taliban grunts to kill low-level American grunts, which they have been happily doing for almost two decades now.

Right now, none of it makes sense, and there is still no EVIDENCE for any of this. Just a lot of people making a lot of accusations, some of which contradict other accusations.

Where's the evidence?


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Thursday, July 2, 2020 1:01 PM

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So, how does this square with the report of "bank payments" being tracked to the Taliban? If these are higher-up Taliban members who made these claims, who are these "less disciplined" members getting payments? Does each Taliban member, no matter how lowly, have their own bank account to which money may be transferred? Or are there bank accounts at the higher Taliban levels, from which payments are distributed internally, and is it these high-level members who are being described as being "less diciplined"? It's hard to see how one allegation squares with the other.

WHY would the Taliban need to be "incentivized" to kill Americans. Hasn't that been their chief occupation since we invaded, nineteen years ago?. Why would Russian's support these jihadist elements? We did in 1979 (when we called them "freedom fighters" and "mujahideen") when WE were paying them to kill Russians. Why would Russia support a group that led to their ognominious defeat and which is antithetical to their nation?

There is only one American group that I can think of that might need incentive to be ... if not killed, ignored ... and that is the CIA contacts for Afghani drug growing and drug smuggling operations. Everyone knows that Afghanistan is the world's center of opium poppy-growing, and it is widely suspected that the CIA has ties to these operations and it using them as sources of off-book money. Other than that, it seems a waste of money to be paying low-level Taliban grunts to kill low-level American grunts, which they have been happily doing for almost two decades by now.

You have so many questions, Signym, and no URLs to back you up. It is as if you just made up a bunch of questions as a smokescreen.

If you really want to make a good smokescreen, start demanding video of the Taliban delivering dead Americans to Moscow and then receiving a bounty payment. Demand to see the income tax returns from the Taliban and the Russian accountants records of payment. Did any of the Taliban deposit some of the bounty into their 401K? Where are the paper records? Signym, demand paper records that have a signature guarantee from a notary public in Afghanistan or else you refuse to believe.

Go crazy with questions, Signym. Go absolutely nuts.

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 1:22 PM

SIGNYM

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SIGNYM: So, how does this square with the report of "bank payments" being tracked to the Taliban? If these are higher-up Taliban members who made these claims, who are these "less disciplined" members getting payments? Does each Taliban member, no matter how lowly, have their own bank account to which money may be transferred? Or are there bank accounts at the higher Taliban levels, from which payments are distributed internally, and is it these high-level members who are being described as being "less diciplined"? It's hard to see how one allegation squares with the other.

WHY would the Taliban need to be "incentivized" to kill Americans. Hasn't that been their chief occupation since we invaded, nineteen years ago?. Why would Russian's support these jihadist elements? We did in 1979 (when we called them "freedom fighters" and "mujahideen") when WE were paying them to kill Russians. Why would Russia support a group that led to their ognominious defeat and which is antithetical to their nation?

There is only one American group that I can think of that might need incentive to be ... if not killed, ignored ... and that is the CIA contacts for Afghani drug growing and drug smuggling operations. Everyone knows that Afghanistan is the world's center of opium poppy-growing, and it is widely suspected that the CIA has ties to these operations and it using them as sources of off-book money. Other than that, it seems a waste of money to be paying low-level Taliban grunts to kill low-level American grunts, which they have been happily doing for almost two decades by now.


SECOND: You have so many questions, Signym, and no URLs to back you up.

I need URLs to think and ask questions?

Hey. I'm just asking about what YOU posted, and wondering how those posts fit togehter

HINT: They don't. One accusation contradicts the other, like so many of your posts

It would probably help you, a lot, if YOU started asking questions. It might have saved you from your first terrible mistake: joining a war on specious grounds that at that point was winding down.

At least start trying to fit the pieces together and look for contradictions or incosistencies between accusations. Yanno, that's pretty low-level logic, something that even YOU should be capable of, and it would save you the embarassment of contradicting yourself from one post to the next, which is what you freqently do.

For starters, how about those bank records that "somebody" says exists? Where are they?

Since "somebody" has already claimed that they have been recorded by our intelligence, if it really happened I'm sure the GRU could piece together where and how the data might be intercepted. I'll bet the Taliban recipients could do the same. So it would not reveal much to the perps about our "sources and methods" if we show the actual data.

IF WE DON'T SEE THAT DATA, THE ONLY PEOPLE LEFT IN THE DARK WOULD BE US AVERAGE AMERICANS. AS USUAL.

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 1:57 PM

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IF WE DON'T SEE THAT DATA, THE ONLY PEOPLE LEFT IN THE DARK WOULD BE US AVERAGE AMERICANS. AS USUAL.

Trump’s bond with veterans starts to fracture over Russian bounty plot

As Trump grapples with the scandal over his reported inaction after being briefed on a Russian plot to pay bounties for the killing of US troops, a series of military figures have lined up to condemn the president.

As Trump’s response has oscillated between the threat not being credible and him not being made aware of it, some veterans have expressed alarm at the latter explanation – at a president who is not being given, or who is not reading, important briefing documents. “If you’re going to put your life on the line for country, you want to have leadership in place that’s going to value your life, and do what they can to protect you. That’s the deal. So yeah, it’s very personal to me.”

The sentiment was echoed by Erik Hendriks, whose son was killed in an attack in Afghanistan in April 2019. The attack has been linked to the Russian bounty effort, and Hendricks questioned what Trump and the military knew about the plot in advance.

Hendriks’ mother, Felicia Arculeo, and Shawn Gregoire, the mother of Michael Isaiah Nance, who was killed in the same attack, have demanded an investigation into the Russian bounty plot and the Trump administration, as pressure grows on the president to explain what happened.

“I really want someone to get to the bottom of this,” Gregoire told CNBC. “Even if he was not briefed, what’s happening now?”

Referring to Trump, Gregoire asked: “What are you doing now, now that you know?”

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/02/trumps-bond-with-veterans-crac
ks-over-russian-bounty-plot


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Thursday, July 2, 2020 1:59 PM

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Looking forward to another day of Ted posting videos made by the neocons behind The Lincoln Project.


Them neocons... They sure are good at giving names to things that belie their true intent. *cough* *cough* PATRIOT ACT *cough* *cough*

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T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.







lol

I knew Ted wouldn't let me down and would post more neocon videos today.

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:23 PM

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lol

I knew Ted wouldn't let me down and would post more neocon videos today.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Did you know that Trump would call reports of Russian bounties on U.S. troops a “hoax”?
www.cbsnews.com/video/trump-calls-reports-of-russian-bounties-on-u-s-t
roops-a-hoax
/

Unfortunately for Trump, it is not a hoax, but he will continue saying "hoax", waiting for the next dozen scandals to obscure this scandal. There is always another, followed by another, which is what happens when the President is goofing off 24/7.
"Russia bounty flap highlights intel breakdown under Trump"
www.politico.com/news/2020/07/01/russia-bounty-intel-breakdown-trump-3
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Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:47 PM

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Not a reply to what you quoted, so I ignored it like the rest of the bullshit you post.

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:51 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

SIGNYM:
IF WE DON'T SEE THAT DATA, THE ONLY PEOPLE LEFT IN THE DARK WOULD BE US AVERAGE AMERICANS. AS USUAL.

SECOND: Trump’s bond with veterans starts to fracture over Russian bounty plot

As Trump grapples with the scandal over his reported inaction

"REPORTED INACTION". This is how the M$M spins their lies.
Quote:

after being briefed
the top intel people are saying that have NOT briefed Trump on this. This looks just like another mouth-breathing spittle-flying hoax on the American people.

Where's the EVIDENCE?



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Thursday, July 2, 2020 3:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

SIGNYM:
IF WE DON'T SEE THAT DATA, THE ONLY PEOPLE LEFT IN THE DARK WOULD BE US AVERAGE AMERICANS. AS USUAL.

SECOND: Trump’s bond with veterans starts to fracture over Russian bounty plot

As Trump grapples with the scandal over his reported inaction

"REPORTED INACTION". This is how the M$M spins their lies.
Quote:

after being briefed
the top intel people are saying that have NOT briefed Trump on this. This looks just like another mouth-breathing spittle-flying hoax on the American people.

Where's the EVIDENCE?

The newspapers told Trump about the Russian bounties on dead Americans. The relatives of dead American soldiers want to know what Trump will do about the Russian bounties. Trump has already done what little he will do -- he will call it a "Hoax!"

Claiming everything is a "Hoax!" has worked for Trump with the Republican Senators, Mitt Romney being the one exception, and maybe the word "Hoax!" will work with voters. We will know in November.

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:51 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIGNYM:
IF WE DON'T SEE THAT DATA, THE ONLY PEOPLE LEFT IN THE DARK WOULD BE US AVERAGE AMERICANS. AS USUAL.

SECOND: Trump’s bond with veterans starts to fracture over Russian bounty plot

As Trump grapples with the scandal over his reported inaction

SIGNY: "REPORTED INACTION". This is how the M$M spins their lies.

SECOND ... after being briefed ...

SIGNY: The top intel people are saying that have NOT briefed Trump on this. This looks just like another mouth-breathing spittle-flying hoax on the American people.
Where's the EVIDENCE?

SECOND: The newspapers told Trump about the Russian bounties on dead Americans.

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

The newspapers told Trump about "collusion" with Russia that not only never happened, it was fabricated by MI6 and the FBI! The newspapers told us that Kavanaugh was a rapist, that Saddam had WMD, that Covington students assaulted a revered elderly Native American, and that Flynn betrayed his country! The newspapers were silent as the grave for years about Epstein's and Maxwell's perversions with kids.

The newspapers are full of shit, just like you. Should Trump respond to every twitch and jerk of shit-flingers like you?

I don't know if you're a paid troll, but you sure act like one.



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Tuesday, July 7, 2020 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Trump has verified as true the Russian bounty on dead Americans. Trump tries to catch who leaked the Russian bounty story to the news:

Trump administration narrows suspects in Russia bounties leak investigation

Top White House officials have reportedly narrowed the list of potential individuals who could have leaked information about Russian agents providing funds to Taliban-linked militants to target American troops in Afghanistan.

Politico Playbook reported Tuesday that fewer than 10 people remain on a list of suspects in the internal investigation, a sign that President Trump is serious about finding and possibly punishing whichever official was behind the leak to the media.

The White House has faced a bipartisan storm of criticism from lawmakers and other figures, with Democrats and the president battling over whether Trump was briefed on the bounties and some, including Hillary Clinton, his 2016 opponent, accusing the president of ignoring his intelligence briefings entirely.

Congressional Republicans including Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) have also joined in on the criticism, demanding a firm response from the president, who has argued that intelligence surrounding the bounties was not credible.

"I'm interested in hearing the administration speak clearly about their plans that aren't just hypothetical sanctions sometime out in the future, but what should we be doing now to make [Russian intelligence] have more doubts about their behavior not just in Afghanistan but more broadly," Sasse told The Hill this week.

“We shouldn’t be cozied up to Russia or giving them favors of any kind,” added his colleague, Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah). “What we do know is Russia’s been helping the Taliban, the Taliban’s been killing Americans, and that’s all I need to know to know that we should be tough on Russia.”

“I certainly wouldn’t want to be inviting them to the G-7,” Romney continued, referring to the Group of Seven.

White House officials have engaged in numerous hunts for leakers throughout Trump's first term, though most have fizzled out without resulting in notable firings.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/506147-trump-administratio
n-narrows-suspects-in-russia-bounty-leak


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Tuesday, July 7, 2020 10:54 AM

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Russia did pay bounties for dead Americans and Trump wants to fire whoever told the newspapers about it:

White House searches for intel leakers

-- Searching For Leakers … The Trump administration has opened an internal investigation to try to uncover who leaked intelligence about Russians paying the Taliban bounties to kill American soldiers. The administration maintains the story is overcooked and the leaks cherry-picked despite a steady stream of follow-ups from media outlets across the globe.

The administration has interviewed people with access to the intelligence, and believes it has narrowed down the universe of suspects to fewer than 10 people.

The administration has said it would search for leakers in its ranks on many occasions. Notably, they vowed to find out who wrote an anonymous op-ed in the NYT almost two years ago. They said they’d find who leaked the president’s calendars in February 2019. Most of these probes fizzled out or faded away.

But, the administration seems a bit more worked up about these leaks, due to the highly classified nature of the intelligence.

www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2020/07/07/new-white-house-searc
hes-for-intel-leakers-489718


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Tuesday, July 7, 2020 11:21 AM

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Keep making shit up and/or posting made up shit bud.

Nobody cares.

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Tuesday, July 7, 2020 11:27 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Somebody leaked intelligence to the press that Trump paid prostitutes to pee on him in a Russian hotel.

Trump did an investigation to find out who that was.

The only problem was, the story was false.

Not seeing anything in any story that provides... what is that, again? Oh, yes .... EVIDENCE ... that the story is true.


*****

The newspapers told us Hillary would win.

The newspapers told us Kim Jong Un was dead.

The newspapers FAILED to tell us about the growing pandemic in China, grappling as they were with the impeachment of President with a false charge.

Now the newspapers are hounding Trump with STILL MORE evidence-free accusations. And you're just the one to splatter it here.

Color me "not impressed". When I see a shitstorm of amplified accusations swirling around... "Mother of soldier killed in..." "Sasse also wants to know..." "Pompea called before House..." I know there's no "there" there. The M$M is making a Big Deal About Nothing because all they're doing is talking about people talking about. If there really was anything there, they wouldn't be reduced to such fluff.


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Tuesday, July 7, 2020 11:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Somebody leaked intelligence to the press that Trump paid prostitutes to pee on him in a Russian hotel.

Trump did an investigation to find out who that was.

The only problem was, the story was false.

Not seeing anything in any story that provides... what is that, again? Oh, yes .... EVIDENCE ... that the story is true.

Trump did not search the desks of staff in the White House for the pee tapes. But Trump is searching White House staff for the leak on Russian bounties. Trump wishes to know who xeroxed the intelligence report on Russian bounties and gave copies to the news. The search inside the White House for the leaker is evidence that the Russians did pay a bounty for dead Americans and that Trump wants to punish the leaker, not Putin.

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Tuesday, July 7, 2020 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Somebody leaked intelligence to the press that Trump paid prostitutes to pee on him in a Russian hotel.

Trump did an investigation to find out who that was.

The only problem was, the story was false.

Not seeing anything in any story that provides... what is that, again? Oh, yes .... EVIDENCE ... that the story is true.

Trump did not search the desks of staff in the White House for the pee tapes. But Trump is searching White House staff for the leak on Russian bounties. Trump wishes to know who xeroxed the intelligence report on Russian bounties and gave copies to the news. The search inside the White House for the leaker is evidence that the Russians did pay a bounty for dead Americans and that Trump wants to punish the leaker, not Putin.

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Yanno what, dildo? If lying Schiff knew about it back in February, admitted that Trump didn't know about it until now, and it was leaked by a third party outside of the two of them, I want to fucking know who's doing the leaking myself.



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Tuesday, July 7, 2020 11:48 AM

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Yanno what, dildo? If lying Schiff knew about it back in February, admitted that Trump didn't know about it until now, and it was leaked by a third party outside of the two of them, I want to fucking know who's doing the leaking myself.

On alleged bounties, White House targets leakers, not Russia

Confronted with intel about Russia putting a bounty on the heads of U.S. troops, the White House is taking action - by hunting for leakers.

Most of the nation's leading news agencies confirmed the story: U.S. intelligence agencies have reason to believe Vladimir Putin's government offered financial rewards to those who killed American servicemen and women.

As the controversy unfolded, there were competing accounts on the scope of the intelligence, but nevertheless, the White House is now prepared to take action -- against those responsible for bringing the story to light.

It's worth emphasizing by Donald Trump's reasoning, there are no leakers to uncover because, as the president put it last week, the entire story was "made up" by journalists as part of an elaborate conspiracy to "damage" his re-election campaign and his party. The "secret source" behind the reporting, Trump added, "probably does not even exist, just like the story itself." The president concluded that the entire matter is "just another hoax."

If Trump were right, then why would the White House seek out a leaker who doesn't exist? How could officials "narrow down the universe of suspects to fewer than 10 people" if the underlying claim was manufactured by nefarious reporters? It would seem the investigation itself debunks the president's claims.

www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/alleged-bounties-white-house-targets-
leakers-not-russia-n1233049


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Tuesday, July 7, 2020 11:53 AM

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Trump did not search the desks of staff in the White House for the pee tapes. But Trump is searching White House staff for the leak on Russian bounties. Trump wishes to know who xeroxed the intelligence report on Russian bounties and gave copies to the news.


This is all somebody's fervid imagination. If there were actionable intelligence reports that were actually photocopied from the WH desk, why was the initial story attributed to "sources", and so incredibly lacking in detail and ... what is that word again ... oh yes ... EVIDENCE?

Fuzzy intelligence reports that are nothing more than rumors don't make it to the President's ear. I'm sure there are dozens, if not HUNDREDS of rumors about geopolitics swirling around right now, about anything from "What caused the three explosions at Iran's nuclear processing facility" to "What Merkel eating for breakfast signifies about her resistance to US sanctions against Russia".

People are lying, and SECONDHAND apparently can't detect lies, which is why he wound up going to Vietnam to kill people. And now he spends all of his time spreading lies here.


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