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Birx : ' There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust ’

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Monday, May 11, 2020 5:27 PM

AURAPTOR

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“Birx and others were frustrated with the CDC’s antiquated system for tracking virus data, which they worried was inflating some statistics — such as mortality rate and case count — by as much as 25 percent, according to four people present for the discussion or later briefed on it,” the Post reported Saturday, citing its anonymous sources.

Birx was reportedly so frustrated that she allegedly blurted out, “There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust.”

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/05/10/birx-reportedly-rails-against-
inflated-numbers-there-is-nothing-from-the-cdc-that-i-can-trust-919317

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Tuesday, May 12, 2020 1:32 AM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

“There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust.”



Add "prone to repeat total exaggerations ad nauseum" to the long list of character defects Derpy Rappy has.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2020 7:18 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:


“Birx and others were frustrated with the CDC’s antiquated system for tracking virus data, which they worried was inflating some statistics — such as mortality rate and case count — by as much as 25 percent, according to four people present for the discussion or later briefed on it,” the Post reported Saturday, citing its anonymous sources.

Birx was reportedly so frustrated that she allegedly blurted out, “There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust.”



CDC is being pummeled by both "sides." They were once considered a highly respected, independent entity, considered by most of the world as an authority to be listened to. Then Dump cut one of their nuts off. That what he does.

EVEN IF you could know the exact numbers by 25% better, it could be 100,000 deaths or it could be 64,000. Not sure that changes anything. South Korea has only 200+. Give me a fuggin' break. This guy is toast - he can't handle it. Wrong person for the job. You need someone to give rich people and banks money and lie all day long? Bingo! Dump's your boy!

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Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:19 AM

AURAPTOR

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CDC and P. Most people drop off that last letter in the acronym, but it does stand for “prevention“. Honestly, what the fuck did this multibillion dollar division of the United States government do to prevent any damn thing? Seems more like we gave money to China so that they could manufacture this virus in their well-funded laboratory which we practically built. In Wuhan.

I know some on this board fidgett and feel uncomfortable about looking at things honestly, but I don’t give a fuck. In fact, you will be forced to watch.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:22 AM

AURAPTOR

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Oh, and Trump isn’t going anywhere. He handled is probably better than anyone considering he was lied to by China and our own CDC dropped the fucking ball. Testing? That only works if the actual test we get are reliable. The initial batch of kits were faulty, but you don’t want to give a fuck about that do you? You’re just like everyone else on the left, you don’t give a god damn about the facts, you just want to win. Sorry buttercup you’re gonna have to endure four more years of awesomeness from Trump.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:23 AM

THG


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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

“There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust.”



Add "prone to repeat total exaggerations ad nauseum" to the long list of character defects Derpy Rappy has.



Agreed wish

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Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:24 AM

THG


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Oh, and Trump isn’t going anywhere. He handled is probably better than anyone considering he was lied to by China and our own CDC dropped the fucking ball. Testing? That only works if the actual test we get are reliable. The initial batch of kits were faulty, but you don’t want to give a fuck about that do you? You’re just like everyone else on the left, you don’t give a god damn about the facts, you just want to win. Sorry buttercup you’re gonna have to endure four more years of awesomeness from Trump.



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Tuesday, May 12, 2020 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Oh, and Trump isn’t going anywhere. He handled is probably better than anyone considering he was lied to by China and our own CDC dropped the fucking ball. Testing? That only works if the actual test we get are reliable. The initial batch of kits were faulty, but you don’t want to give a fuck about that do you? You’re just like everyone else on the left, you don’t give a god damn about the facts, you just want to win. Sorry buttercup you’re gonna have to endure four more years of awesomeness from Trump.



Lied to by Chi-na? So you think he should have trusted Chi-na over his own Intel agencies & Health advisors? WTF?

Bruh - I actually agreed with you on the CDC. Hate to see how you'd react if I disagreed!

"Awesomeness from Trump" - can't laugh hard enough. The guy who won't wear a mask, makes others NOT wear masks, and then yells at everyone when people around him get sick. F-sake, dude, those are The Goddamn Facts ™

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Tuesday, May 12, 2020 1:01 PM

THG


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
CDC and P. Most people drop off that last letter in the acronym, but it does stand for “prevention“. Honestly, what the fuck did this multibillion dollar division of the United States government do to prevent any damn thing?

I know some on this board fidgett and feel uncomfortable about looking at things honestly,



Let us test that rappy. Here are some facts. Can you look at things honestly? I'm betting not.
T


Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.


Timeline: How Trump was out of step with the CDC during coronavirus response

Health officials in Wuhan, China, post a notice that says they’re investigating a pneumonia outbreak that is spreading in their city. The World Health Organization (WHO) acknowledges that it “was informed of a cluster of cases of pneumonia of unknown cause.”

OFFICIAL US ACTIONS
January 8
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) publishes a health advisory regarding the “pneumonia of unknown etiology” that appears to have originated in Wuhan.

OFFICIAL US ACTIONS
January 17
The CDC dispatches more than 100 staffers to three US airports to screen passengers arriving from Wuhan, a highly unusual step only taken during major health crises.

OFFICIAL US ACTIONS
January 21
Dr. Nancy Messonnier, a senior CDC official handling the response to respiratory diseases, tells reporters, “We do expect additional cases in the United States and globally.”

TRUMP COMMENTS
January 22
At the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Trump says he isn’t worried that the outbreak could turn into a global pandemic, and said he is confident that China is being transparent about the number of cases. “We have it totally under control,” Trump told CNBC. “It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

OFFICIAL US ACTIONS
January 23
CDC advisers tell CNN they are concerned that Chinese health officials haven’t released basic epidemiological data about the virus, making it more difficult to contain the outbreak. Questions remain about how quickly people with the infection become contagious.

TRUMP COMMENTS
January 24
Senior officials from the CDC brief senators about the latest developments about the virus. Later, Trump posts his first tweet about the coronavirus. He praises the Chinese government for its “transparency” handling the outbreak and says, “it will all work out well.”

FOREIGN DEVELOPMENTS
January 25
The WHO says there are more than 1,000 confirmed cases worldwide.

FOREIGN DEVELOPMENTS
January 26
Chinese government health officials reveal for the first time that people who are infected with the coronavirus can spread the disease before they are showing any symptoms.

OFFICIAL US ACTIONS
January 29
The White House announces a coronavirus task force, which is led by Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar and is being coordinated through the National Security Council. Trump attend a meeting of the task force and tweeted that the experts “are on top of it.”

FOREIGN DEVELOPMENTS
January 30
The World Health Organization declares a public health emergency of international concern. The State Department announces a “do not travel” warning for China due to the virus.

OFFICIAL US ACTIONS
January 31
The Trump administration declares a public health emergency in the United States because of the coronavirus and blocks foreigners who visited China from entering the country. (In the following weeks, Trump complained that he didn’t get enough credit for this decision, which he claimed was a turning point in preventing a large-scale outbreak in the United States.)

This same day, about 200 Americans are evacuated out of China and flown to a military base in California, where they are quarantined. Messonnier, the top CDC official, says the drastic move was necessary because “we are facing an unprecedented health threat” from coronavirus.”

FOREIGN DEVELOPMENTS
February 1
The WHO says there are more than 10,000 confirmed cases worldwide.

OFFICIAL US ACTIONS
February 4
Azar and Mulvaney brief lawmakers on Capitol Hill. A week later, Mulvaney criticized the low turnout, saying only “five senators” and about a dozen House members showed up.

FOREIGN DEVELOPMENTS
February 6
The WHO says there are more than 25,000 confirmed cases worldwide.

TRUMP COMMENTS
February 7
Trump speaks with Chinese President Xi Jinping. Later, Trump tweets that China “will be successful” in stopping the coronavirus, “especially as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker, and then gone.” Scientists and public health experts swiftly reject Trump’s outlook and say it’s too early to know how the weather will impact the virus.

TRUMP COMMENTS
February 10
At a political rally in New Hampshire, Trump mentions the coronavirus and says it “looks like, by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away.”

OFFICIAL US ACTIONS
February 13
CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield contradicts Trump’s predictions in an interview with CNN, saying the coronavirus “is probably with us beyond this season, beyond this year.”

FOREIGN DEVELOPMENTS
February 15
The WHO says there are more than 50,000 confirmed cases worldwide.

FOREIGN DEVELOPMENTS
February 19
The WHO says there are more than 75,000 confirmed cases worldwide.

OFFICIAL US ACTIONS
February 24
The White House requests $2.5 billion to deal with the coronavirus emergency.

TRUMP COMMENTS
February 24
Trump tweets, “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA.”

OFFICIAL US ACTIONS
February 25
Messonnier, the CDC official, says it is inevitable that the coronavirus will spread in the US and that Americans need to prepare for disruptions to their daily lives.

TRUMP COMMENTS
February 25
Trump tells reporters during his trip to India that the virus is “a problem that’s going to go away.”

TRUMP COMMENTS
February 26
At a White House press conference, Trump defends his administration’s response to the coronavirus but also contradicts the assessment from the CDC that the virus will definitely spread throughout the US. Trump says, “I don’t think it’s inevitable. I think that there’s a chance that it could get worse, a chance it could get fairly substantially worse, but nothing’s inevitable.”

FOREIGN DEVELOPMENTS
February 27
The WHO says there are more than 82,000 confirmed cases worldwide.

OFFICIAL US ACTIONS
February 29
Health officials in Washington state announce the first coronavirus death inside the United States. The patient was a man in his 50s who had underlying health problems. The Trump administration also issues new travel warnings for South Korea, Iran and Italy, where the outbreak has been particularly strong.

TRUMP COMMENTS
February 29
Trump struck a more measured tone at a White House press conference, where he conceded that “additional cases in the United States are likely.” He also asked the press and politicians “not do anything to incite panic because there’s no reason to panic at all.”

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/03/politics/coronavirus-trump-cdc
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Tuesday, May 12, 2020 1:23 PM

THG


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Oh, and Trump isn’t going anywhere. He handled is probably better than anyone considering he was lied to by China and our own CDC dropped the fucking ball. You’re just like everyone else on the left, you don’t give a god damn about the facts



Let us test this shall we rappy. Here are more facts to add to the ones I've posted above. Can you handle the truth yet? Again I'm betting not.
T


Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.


1. Trump fired America’s pandemic response team and 6 other ways he ‘sabotaged’ our coronavirus response

In 2018, the government’s entire pandemic response chain of command was let go.

Trump shut down the global health security unit within the NSC, and the DHS epidemic team was also pushed out. No one was ever replaced.

This fact caused a ripple effect of panic in many federal and state programs while the news spread of the Coronavirus in China. If the virus was to spread in the U.S., there is no playbook on how to respond.

Why did Trump decide the pandemic response team was dispensable? Simple. It was another part of Obama’s legacy that he felt the need to destroy.

2. The CDC is getting its budget slashed

Trump’s budget request for 2021 cuts the budges for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention or CDC by nearly 16%. The CDC is responsible for disease prevention and control in the United States.

But Trump isn’t worried about cutting funds to the entity that stops disease prevention because “it will all work out well.”

In addition to the cuts being made to the CDC, Trump is also proposing a cut to the global health fund, lowering it from $571 million to $532 million.

Short-sighted decisions such as these have many people worried the current administration is crippling the country’s ability to respond to coronavirus. Former Vice President Joe Biden pointed out in a USA Today piece that “diseases do not stop at borders. They cannot be thwarted by building a wall.”

Yet, a wall is exactly where Trump is throwing the money. His 2021 budget also calls for $2 billion to be allocated for construction on his border wall.

For now, the majority of the confirmed cases are in China, but the director-general of the World Health Organization warns that there is still a “very grave threat” to the entire world.

3. Emergency funds are drying up

Along with the missing response team, there is also the lack of a budget to contend with.

The Department of Health and Human Services has already notified Congress that it may need to transfer up to $136 million in funds to help combat the fast-moving epidemic.

This is partially because the Center for Disease Control and Prevention has already gone through the $105 million that was set aside for emergency public-health responses for infectious disease outbreaks.

Hawaii Lt. Gov Josh Green voiced concerns about the White House’s gameplan to tackle the Coronavirus issue.

“The way this was rolled out is concerning. This is not the kind of thing you want to do on the fly because it creates chaos.”

4. Trump spreads misinformation

Trump keeps repeating a false claim that Americans don’t have to worry because the Coronavirus will be defeated by warm weather.


Steve Herman
?
@W7VOA
Replying to @W7VOA and 3 others
“The heat generally speaking kills this kind of virus,” @POTUS explains to governors, suggesting #China has given him confidence that the #coronavirus outbreak will subside by April.

There’s one big problem with this: scientists say the opposite.

Infectious disease experts told CNN last week that they don’t know enough about this strain of Coronavirus to make that judgment. Dr. Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at the Baylor College of Medicine in Texas, calls the assumption that spring weather will kill coronavirus “reckless.”

“We don’t really understand the basis of seasonality, and of course we know we absolutely nothing about this particular virus.”

5. The administration doesn’t heed warnings

Experts have been warning the administration, but those concerns have gone completely unheeded.

Ron Klain, for one, has been telling the Trump administration for two years that the United States was not capable of handling a pandemic. Klain served as Chief of Staff for two U.S. Vice Presidents and was also the Ebola response coordinator in 2014.

Even Bill Gates, the philanthropic billionaire, repeatedly met with John Bolton about the issue. Bill Gates warned that ongoing cuts to the global health disease infrastructure would make the United States vulnerable to “significant probability of a large and lethal modern-day pandemic occurring in our lifetimes.”

The Trump Administration didn’t listen to the words of Klain or Gates. The CDC’s global health section has been cut so drastically that staff members have been laid off in droves. The section used to work in 49 different countries, but now they have a presence in just 10.

6. The President creates a Coronavirus Task Force

A potential epidemic is here.

In addition to waiting for spring weather to weaken the virus, the only other move Trump has made to prepare the country is the creation of a task force.

The “President’s Coronavirus Task Force.” contains a dozen men, five of whom are directly from the White House staff. According to the Press Secretary, the task force will be responsible for “efforts to monitor, contain, and mitigate the spread of the virus.”

While a task force might seem like a good idea, the details on how its goals will be accomplished have been left quite hazy.

7. More misinformation from his administration

The Trump administration sent Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross to a Fox Business appearance. Ross’s main talking point was the hypothetical business opportunities from Coronavirus saying it “will help to accelerate the return of jobs to North America.”

Ross claims that the losses in China will lead to a surge in American business prospects.

The Commerce Secretary words were proven to be nothing but more misinformation by Paul Krugman of the New York Times. Krugman says:

In such a world, anything that disrupts imports — whether it’s tariffs or a virus — raises production costs, and as a result if anything hurts manufacturing…if the virus seriously disrupts Chinese production, its impact on the U.S. economy will be like an extreme version of Trump’s trade war, except without any compensation in the form of tariff revenue.”

https://www.frontpagelive.com/2020/02/07/10-ways-trump-has-left-americ
a-vulnerable-to-the-coronaviruss-health-and-economic-impacts
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Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:14 PM

AURAPTOR

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More fake news. You’re the fools who believe Obama, Comey, Lynch, Clapper, etc...

ALL iiars.

No point in talking to anyone so deluded & flat out dishonest as you.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:15 PM

THG


What an halfwit you are rappy. Correct that; what a dishonest halfwit you are.

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:32 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
More fake news. You’re the fools who believe Obama, Comey, Lynch, Clapper, etc...

ALL iiars.

No point in talking to anyone so deluded & flat out dishonest as you.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall



You said "Obama" and "Lynch" in the same sentence on purpose! Racist!



Go eat a Snickers, dude.

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020 1:04 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


The White House does not have a plan, it does not have a framework, it does not have a philosophy, and it does not have a goal.

It is not that the president is doing the wrong thing — he is doing basically nothing. But he has combined a substantive passivity with a showman’s desire to dominate the narrative and a political street fighter’s obsession with settling scores, so he is making the job of governors and mayors harder, neither giving them what they need to beat the virus nor leaving them to make their own decisions free from his interference and criticism.

The result is that the country has accomplished essentially none of the necessary preparatory work required to safely begin to reopen and return to some semblance of normal life.

Americans have made tremendous sacrifices to buy their government time, and that time has been wasted. That is why we are left with an increasingly polarized, and polarizing, debate between endless lockdowns and reckless reopening: The government has failed to do what functional governments in other countries have done and create a better option.

www.vox.com/2020/5/13/21255221/trump-coronavirus-plan-covid-reopening-
lockdown-liberate


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, May 14, 2020 5:53 AM

AURAPTOR

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WH has a plan, and it's working. The curve is flattening, we're dealing with the hot spots as they spike and things are going to get back to something like normal.

Everyone knows the Left wants to drag this out , but real Americans aren't going to take another 3 months of mommy and daddy STATE control over their lives.

What's so egregious is how the Left immediately jumped on this crisis so it could politicize and divide us. Literally the worst people in the world.

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Thursday, May 14, 2020 6:01 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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You said "Obama" and "Lynch" in the same sentence on purpose! Racist!


You're the racist who'd even think like that. Tell everyone how stupid you are that you don't even know who Loretta Lynch is, AG under Obama, and her role in exonerating Hillary. How she met with Bill on the tarmac, in a totally prearranged " happenstance " meeting, off either of their official schedules, and absolutely outside of her office, to avoid any sort of appearance of impropriety.... only it's still exactly that. Meeting with the former President whose wife is currently running for President , while also being under investigation for illegally destroying 30-40,000 State Dept. emails, devices, hardware... oh sure, that's totally above board.



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Thursday, May 14, 2020 7:37 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

You said "Obama" and "Lynch" in the same sentence on purpose! Racist!


You're the racist who'd even think like that. Tell everyone how stupid you are that you don't even know who Loretta Lynch is, AG under Obama, and her role in exonerating Hillary. How she met with Bill on the tarmac, in a totally prearranged " happenstance " meeting, off either of their official schedules, and absolutely outside of her office, to avoid any sort of appearance of impropriety.... only it's still exactly that. Meeting with the former President whose wife is currently running for President , while also being under investigation for illegally destroying 30-40,000 State Dept. emails, devices, hardware... oh sure, that's totally above board.




Another humorless Trump lover - sad!

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Thursday, May 14, 2020 11:51 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
WH has a plan, and it's working. The curve is flattening, we're dealing with the hot spots as they spike and things are going to get back to something like normal.

Everyone knows the Left wants to drag this out , but real Americans aren't going to take another 3 months of mommy and daddy STATE control over their lives.

What's so egregious is how the Left immediately jumped on this crisis so it could politicize and divide us. Literally the worst people in the world.

Trump said, “We have more cases than anybody in the world, but why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases. They don’t want to write that. It’s common sense. We test much more.”

A 10-year old heard this, immediately rolled her eyes and said, "That's so stupid! They still have it, they just wouldn't know it!"

What a bizarre thing for Trump to say. So does testing cause deaths, too? Is that why almost 1 of 3 deaths worldwide from COVID-19 comes from the United States?

www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-says-coronavirus-testing-overratedclai
ms-fewer-cases-if-no-testing-2020-05-14


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, May 15, 2020 12:25 AM

1KIKI

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]Originally posted by AURaptor:

What's so egregious is how the Left immediately jumped on this crisis so it could politicize and divide us. Literally the worst people in the world.

I think that the media rightly understood this to be a crisis. And if thinking it's a crisis makes it lean 'left', then I guess that makes almost every country in the world part of 'the left', except for Brazil and Mexico, which now have an upward case explosion when major countries have either plateaued or dropped.

You have really heavy filters on your glasses that somehow block off seeing the rest of the planet.

And why should you care about the rest of the planet? Because it keeps you from coming up with silly statements about D's and R's. The sun rises in the east and sets in the west. If you don't look at the rest of the planet, I'm sure you could find a way to blame that on one or the other, or credit one or the other.

Many, many things aren't a matter of D or R. If you take off your polarized filters that see everything that way, you'll see a more complete reality.

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Friday, May 15, 2020 7:23 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

]Originally posted by AURaptor:

What's so egregious is how the Left immediately jumped on this crisis so it could politicize and divide us. Literally the worst people in the world.

I think that the media rightly understood this to be a crisis. And if thinking it's a crisis makes it lean 'left', then I guess that makes almost every country in the world part of 'the left', except for Brazil and Mexico, which now have an upward case explosion when major countries have either plateaued or dropped.

You have really heavy filters on your glasses that somehow block off seeing the rest of the planet.

And why should you care about the rest of the planet? Because it keeps you from coming up with silly statements about D's and R's. The sun rises in the east and sets in the west. If you don't look at the rest of the planet, I'm sure you could find a way to blame that on one or the other, or credit one or the other.

Many, many things aren't a matter of D or R. If you take off your polarized filters that see everything that way, you'll see a more complete reality.

1kiki, why are you using science? Science has little traction on the Republican side of the climate change debate because it is a long-standing partisan issue. When Covid-19 became partisan, Republican vs Democrat, months ago, science lost with Republicans.
www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/03/covid-19-is-turning-into-
a-partisan-battle-politics-daily/608578
/

There is a wide partisan gap on views of President Donald Trump’s response to the outbreak. Although both Republicans and Democrats rate the responses of public health officials and state and local elected officials positively in the survey conducted last week, partisans are deeply divided on views of Trump’s response. A broad majority of Republicans and Republican leaners (83%) rate Trump’s response to the outbreak as either excellent or good; just 18% of Democrats and Democratic leaners say the same.
www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/04/02/5-facts-about-partisan-reacti
ons-to-covid-19-in-the-u-s
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, May 15, 2020 8:01 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Another humorless Trump lover - sad!



I missed the memo where racism is funny or accusing folks of being racist who aren't is ever acceptable.

You grasp of what's funny is non existent.

You wankers on the Left virtue signal imaginary crap so often there's no question you idiots are void of actual humor.

There's even a movie made about it.



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, May 15, 2020 8:06 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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You have really heavy filters on your glasses that somehow block off seeing the rest of the planet.


Crisis or not, that still doesn't speak to the fact that the US media and Dems are using the China virus as a political opportunity.

Your comments are disjointed and frankly nonsensical. Try again.

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Friday, May 15, 2020 9:09 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I missed the memo where racism is funny or accusing folks of being racist who aren't is ever acceptable.

You grasp of what's funny is non existent.

You wankers on the Left virtue signal imaginary crap so often there's no question you idiots are void of actual humor.

There's even a movie made about it.

The president is a racist, in his words and his actions.

Before you go clutching your pearls and extolling the virtues of “civility,” let me say this: Put a sock in it.

This is not a new revelation, nor is it something that we can continue to ignore as though it were coming from a drunk uncle at the family barbecue. Bigotry is dangerous and, coming from our nation’s commander in chief, it can mean an inability to recognize individual humanity and a failure to act with moral authority in times of crisis. Every person talking about his clothes as Trump cheerfully bares his ass is part of the problem.
www.thedailybeast.com/trump-is-a-racist-if-you-still-support-him-so-ar
e-you



Trump Condemned Racism As ‘Evil’ but here are 20 times he embraced it.
It’s been over a year since his election, and Trump has only doubled down on his racist rhetoric and policies.
www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-racism-examples_n_5991dcabe4b09071f69b926
1


Racial views of Donald Trump
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump

Trump and racism: What do the data say?
There is little reason to expect this research to have much impact on public attitudes; increasingly, partisanship skews what Americans think
qualifies as racist. But there is no excuse for avoiding clear, accurate descriptions of American political dynamics. When the data show that President Trump’s support stems from racist and sexist beliefs, and that his election emboldened Americans to engage in racist behavior, it is the responsibility of social scientists and other political observers to say so.
www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2019/08/14/trump-and-racism-what-do-the-
data-say
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, May 15, 2020 9:13 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Trump has never embraced racism.

There's zero proof he's a racist.

In contrast, Joe Biden has made multiple truly racist comments, and I don't need a filter or some false authority figure telling me what Joe said and then have it explained to me why they're racist.

On their own, Joe's remarks are undeniably racist.

“ Poor kids are just as bright, just as talented, as white kids.” - Joe Biden


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Friday, May 15, 2020 9:18 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Trump has never embraced racism.

There's zero proof he's a racist.

Google Trump racism www.google.com/search?q=trump+racism

Racism Is All Trump Has Left
Facing a tough reelection fight, the president tries to rally his base with the bogeyman of Obama and a reassertion of racial hierarchy.
www.thenation.com/article/politics/racism-trump-obamagate-election/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, May 15, 2020 9:41 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


I'm not clicking links to other sites to boost their count.

Post what you want here, or you have no honest input that I'm interested in seeing.

* You can post the content here, and then offer a link for citation purposes, but this issues is so done and pointless, I'm not chasing garbage around the internet.

Have a real discussion.

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Friday, May 15, 2020 10:11 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm not clicking links to other sites to boost their count.

Post what you want here, or you have no honest input that I'm interested in seeing.

* You can post the content here, and then offer a link for citation purposes, but this issues is so done and pointless, I'm not chasing garbage around the internet.

Have a real discussion.

What else does Trump have left? The economy is a shambles and his unilateralist foreign policy has yielded no clear achievement. Racism is the only card Trump has left to play. There is every reason to think he’ll try to exploit racism to the limit in order to hold on to power.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, May 15, 2020 7:03 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


I see you're too much of a coward to offer any actual evidence.

Deflect away all you want.

What else does Trump have? WTF are you even babbling about? Trump is purposely being falsely accused or non existent racism in the midst of a world pandemic which started form Communist China ( possibly on purpose ).. how ?

I used to think more of Firefly fans, but then I used to think Joss was a decent guy too.




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Sunday, May 17, 2020 10:18 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Trump has never embraced racism.

There's zero proof he's a racist.

In contrast, Joe Biden has made multiple truly racist comments, and I don't need a filter or some false authority figure telling me what Joe said and then have it explained to me why they're racist.

On their own, Joe's remarks are undeniably racist.




Come on dude, Trump is definitely a racist. It's ok. It's America. It's not illegal to be a racist in the US. Everyone's a little bit racist - I'm sure Biden is too. Clinton's? Heck yeah! Bush's? Of course! Chris Rock? Funnier than sh*t!

Much worse though - Trump's a lying sack of shit. He is his only concern.

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Sunday, May 17, 2020 2:23 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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What else does Trump have left?
Pass the buck, and find convenient scapegoats.


I thought this was a convenient time to share a painting titled "The Scapegoat" I find effective.


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Sunday, May 17, 2020 2:29 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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a world pandemic which started from Communist China ( possibly on purpose )
I can't think of ANY country that would start a pandemic ON PURPOSE by infecting its own country first - especially without any obvious containment or treatment pre-planned. In addition, bio-warfare in general is one of the worst ways to try and hurt an enemy since it can never be contained and will always circle back to you, no matter what you do. The only way to do it safely is to vaccinate your people first, or have a treatment in place, which obviously didn't happen in China. Even President Xi wasn't vaccinated - he disappeared for weeks. And to this day China is still struggling with outbreaks (currently in NE China on the Russian border). If they had a vaccine or treatment pre-developed, it would have become obvious by now. Finally, no leader wants a rampant epidemic within the borders, since it's an invitation to political instability.

I think you need to think about that "on purpose" train of thought some more, and maybe reevaluate anyone who seems to be pushing that idea.

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