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I believe that there's a subclass of this new aggressive white nationalist movement, and I put it to white men who are OUTRAGED! that their specialness just hasn't been rewarded in a manner they deem appropriate! They're built head to toe out of frustrated entitlement.

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Originally posted by JACK:
posted without the least bit of irony or self-recognition

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
SECOND, I believe that there's a subclass of this new aggressive white nationalist movement, and I put it to white men who are OUTRAGED! that their specialness just hasn't been rewarded in a manner they deem appropriate! They're built head to toe out of frustrated entitlement.

Of course very few people are appropriately rewarded in this society for their contributions. And I'm sorry to see that the only people who seem to be outraged are white males. And it's too bad that they want to make themselves whole by taking away from others.

But in a system where everybody but the people who make money from owning are getting royally screwed (that would be everybody who needs a paycheck), I suppose it's inevitable somebody would take issue at the way the system is treating them.

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I never find arguments about the "system" persuasive.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Meh.

I've been posting facts.

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SECOND, I believe that there's a subclass of this new aggressive white nationalist movement, and I put it to white men who are OUTRAGED! that their specialness just hasn't been rewarded in a manner they deem appropriate! They're built head to toe out of frustrated entitlement.

Of course very few people are appropriately rewarded in this society for their contributions. And I'm sorry to see that the only people who seem to be outraged are white males. And it's too bad that they want to make themselves whole by taking away from others.

But in a system where everybody but the people who make money from owning are getting royally screwed (that would be everybody who needs a paycheck), I suppose it's inevitable somebody would take issue at the way the system is treating them.

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Originally posted by SECOND:
I never find arguments about the "system" persuasive.

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If you had a system running 24/7/365 for a 100+ years, that consistently gave you poor to unacceptable results 99.9% of the time, no matter WHO the operators were, I'd think you'd have a crappy system.

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If you had a system running 24/7/365 for a 100+ years, that consistently gave you poor to unacceptable results 99.9% of the time, no matter WHO the operators were, I'd think you'd have a crappy system.

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From where I'm sitting, I don't see a problem.

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If you had a system running 24/7/365 for a 100+ years, that consistently gave you poor to unacceptable results 99.9% of the time, no matter WHO the operators were, I'd think you'd have a crappy system.

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From where I'm sitting, I don't see a problem.

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Maybe you don't see a systemic problem, but a lot of people do. It's the solutions they're divided on.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You think the problem is Trump. But Obama got far more people killed around the globe. I guess Obama was a far more successful psychopath. YAY OBAMA! You done good!

That's not to say Trump is fine. In his press conference, riffing about UV light and disinfectants, I believe he was playing out a fantasy role. Demonstrating his brilliance to a press corps audience while experts pretended to take him seriously, as if he was contributing as their peer. I felt kinda' embarrassed for him. Nothing good can ever come out of playing out your fantasies in public.

But if that's as far as his personal pathology goes, I'll take that over Obama as a warmongering, people-droning, job-destroying, secretly vengeful, toady of the global system that serves the elite, any day.

Sadly though, Trump's administration's faults aren't limited to Trump's personal pathology. Many in the administration who are a good part of the backbone of the traditional MIC are jonesing for a war with Iran NOW! (Maybe they see his shelf-life might be limited and they're hoping to carry out their agendas before then.) There's that systemic problem again!

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Originally posted by second:

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You think the problem is Trump. But Obama got far more people killed around the globe. I guess Obama was a far more successful psychopath. YAY OBAMA! You done good!

That's not to say Trump is fine. In his press conference, riffing about UV light and disinfectants, I believe he was playing out a fantasy role. Demonstrating his brilliance to a press corps audience while experts pretended to take him seriously, as if he was contributing as their peer. I felt kinda' embarrassed for him. Nothing good can ever come out of playing out your fantasies in public.

But if that's as far as his personal pathology goes, I'll take that over Obama as a warmongering, people-droning, job-destroying, secretly vengeful, toady of the global system that serves the elite, any day.

Sadly though, Trump's administration's faults aren't limited to Trump's personal pathology. Many in the administration who are a good part of the backbone of the traditional MIC are jonesing for a war with Iran NOW! (Maybe they see his shelf-life might be limited and they're hoping to carry out their agendas before then.) There's that systemic problem again!

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I checked my government book and it says very clearly that the President does NOT have the power to declare war. That is Congress's power, and yet the Pentagon, which doesn't seem to be under control of Congress, keeps going to war no matter who is President. Why doesn't Congress cut the Pentagon's budget in order to get control? How did this nonsense become standard practice? Why don't citizens either force their Congressmen to vote on authorizing wars or else not reelect their Congressmen? It truly is a mystery what is going on inside the heads of a majority of American voters/citizens/tax-payers who allow Congress to keep letting this happen decade after decade since June 4, 1942, when the Senate approved a resolution declaring war with Hungary, the most recent Declaration of War.

Official Declarations of War by Congress
www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/h_multi_sections_and_teasers/WarDecl
arationsbyCongress.htm

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

That's a good question.

And, for once, it should be noted that Second posted something that was a non-partisan criticism.

My word. I truly didn't think he was capable of such a thing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

That's a good question.

And, for once, it should be noted that Second posted something that was a non-partisan criticism.

My word. I truly didn't think he was capable of such a thing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You might not have noticed, but I placed the blame on American voters/citizens/tax-payers for no declarations of war being issued since 1942. The majority of Americans know that Congress has been malfunctioning on that particular simple duty and yet they keep reelecting the same people who are shirking their responsibility to decide about wars. Maybe Americans should stop making that mistake when they vote for their Congressmen? Or, more likely, Americans will shirk their own responsibilities, too, in the 2020 election.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Oh. It's a veiled dig at the party you don't approve of.

Gotcha.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
To imply that half of the country is smarter than Homer Simpson because they mindlessly punch the all Democrat ticket is a laugh.

As per usual, your metrics are bullshit.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol @ online poll that has zero verification and therefore zero methodology.

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Originally posted by second:

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lol @ online poll that has zero verification and therefore zero methodology.

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Verify this: The U.S. death toll from Covid-19 on Tuesday exceeded the 58,220 American lives lost during the Vietnam War.

The Covid-19 Memorial Wall ought to be made in the same style as the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall traveling replicas. Instead of a bronze statue of three Vietnam vets, the Covid-19 Wall will have three statues of Trump, one at each end of the wall and one in the middle. The Trump statues’ mouths will be open, talking about himself and how hard it is to be President. Instead of holding a rifle, Trump’s statues will hold a golf club.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_Veterans_Memorial#Traveling_repl
icas

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Add not paying any attention at all to polls designed for the Twitteratti to vent their frustrations to the list of thing you should be doing so you don't set yourself up for devastating disappointment again in November.

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lol @ online poll that has zero verification and therefore zero methodology.

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Verify this: The U.S. death toll from Covid-19 on Tuesday exceeded the 58,220 American lives lost during the Vietnam War.

The Covid-19 Memorial Wall ought to be made in the same style as the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall traveling replicas. Instead of a bronze statue of three Vietnam vets, the Covid-19 Wall will have three statues of Trump, one at each end of the wall and one in the middle. The Trump statues’ mouths will be open, talking about himself and how hard it is to be President. Instead of holding a rifle, Trump’s statues will hold a golf club.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_Veterans_Memorial#Traveling_repl
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Mostly old people who were going to die of something else.

Why should there be any memorial built for them?

Shit happens. Everybody is going to die. Quit politicizing this bullshit.



If ya'all weren't calling him racist for trying to ban flights into the country in the beginning of this, it wouldn't be nearly as bad as it is. (Which isn't that bad in the first place).

This is YOUR fault.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Remind me again how well WaPo owner Jeff Bezos is doing with all the shutdowns.

Oh right. He's doing great.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Remind me again how well WaPo owner Jeff Bezos is doing with all the shutdowns.

Oh right. He's doing great.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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When Bezos runs for President, you can accuse him of whatever pleases you. But thousands of people are dead because of the character of Donald Trump.

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Remind me again how well WaPo owner Jeff Bezos is doing with all the shutdowns.

Oh right. He's doing great.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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When Bezos runs for President, you can accuse him of whatever pleases you. But thousands of people are dead because of the character of Donald Trump.

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No. They are not dead because of Trump. You are mental.

They're dead because they were old and lived an unhealthy life, and now a cold that we've never seen was released by China onto the world and until we develop natural immunity to it, old and unhealthy people have a chance of dying.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tragedy was avoided because George W Bush paid close attention to the intelligence briefings about Osama bin Laden ready to attack. Just like Bush, Trump paid close attention to intelligence briefings, this time on Covid-19. Oops. My mistake. Too bad neither President actually paid attention to those briefings.

www.businessinsider.com/trump-classified-briefings-warned-about-covid-
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“It snuck up on us,” Trump said on March 18, calling the virus “a very unforeseen thing.”

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Tragedy was avoided because George W Bush paid close attention to the intelligence briefings about Osama bin Laden ready to attack. Just like Bush, Trump paid close attention to intelligence briefings, this time on Covid-19. Oops. My mistake. Too bad neither President actually paid attention to those briefings.

www.businessinsider.com/trump-classified-briefings-warned-about-covid-
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“It snuck up on us,” Trump said on March 18, calling the virus “a very unforeseen thing.”

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I haven't been following this conversation, but that caught my eye.

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The WHO just declared the coronavirus a pandemic. Here’s what that means.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Maybe instead of just calling it the China Wuhan virus, Trump should call it an act of war by China with the WHO being an accomplice.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Maybe instead of just calling it the China Wuhan virus, Trump should call it an act of war by China with the WHO being an accomplice.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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The president spent the early weeks of January insisting there was nothing to worry about, and that warnings about a potential pandemic were a "hoax" meant to hurt his re-election bid and tank the stock market.

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What warnings were there in January.

I JUST SENT YOU A LINK TO YOUR FAVORITE WEBSITE THAT STATED THE WHO DIDN'T DECLARE IT A PANDEMIC UNTIL MARCH 11TH.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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What warnings were there in January.

I JUST SENT YOU A LINK TO YOUR FAVORITE WEBSITE THAT STATED THE WHO DIDN'T DECLARE IT A PANDEMIC UNTIL MARCH 11TH.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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In May 2018, President Donald Trump’s biodefense preparedness adviser warned that a flu pandemic was the country’s No. 1 health security threat, and the U.S. was not prepared. What did Trump then do? Fire them.

'Gross misjudgment': Experts say Trump's decision to disband pandemic team hindered coronavirus response

www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/03/18/coronavirus-did-president
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Once you old and sick people all die off from The Coomph, the rest of us will just shrug this off like any of the other Coronaviruses that give us sniffles.

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Once you old and sick people all die off from The Coomph, the rest of us will just shrug this off like any of the other Coronaviruses that give us sniffles.

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How Trump and his team tried to cover up the coronavirus threat

The strongest critics of the Trump administration’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic point to its flat-footedness and the consequences of time lost.

But the full account looks worse. Over the last five days of February, President Trump and senior officials did something more sinister: They engaged in a cover-up.

A look at this window of time gives insight into how several members of the president’s team were willing to manipulate Americans even when so many lives were at stake.

The recent reports that the president wanted to fire the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s top expert on viral respiratory diseases, Dr. Nancy Messonnier, during this period helps put the pieces of the puzzle together.

What was her offense to the president?

In a conference call with reporters on the final Tuesday of the month, Dr. Messonnier spoke frankly. “We want to make sure the American public is prepared,” she said, then put it in personal terms by saying what she told her children that morning: “We as a family ought to be preparing for significant disruption to our lives.”

At the time, senior officials knew the coronavirus was an extreme threat to Americans. Thanks to information streaming in from U.S. intelligence agencies for months, officials reportedly believed that a “cataclysmic” disease could infect 100 million Americans and discussed lockdown plans. The warnings were given to Mr. Trump in his daily brief by the intelligence community; in calls from Alex Azar, the secretary of health; and in memos from his economic adviser Peter Navarro.

The same day that Dr. Messonnier spoke, the military’s National Center for Medical Intelligence raised the warning level inside the government to WATCHCON1, concluding that the coronavirus was imminently likely to develop into a full-blown pandemic.

But the White House did not want the American public to know.

The president’s stated concerns were specific. He didn’t want to upset the markets or China during trade talks. So the president’s top advisers took to the airwaves with a united purpose: to deny the truth.

More at www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/opinion/coronavirus-trump-coverup.html

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There is no cover up, idiot.

The only fucking thing everybody has been talking about for 6 weeks in The Coomph.

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There is no cover up, idiot.

The only fucking thing everybody has been talking about for 6 weeks in The Coomph.

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Gawd you're so dense.

"We have 14 cases and pretty soon it will be zero."
"One day it's just going to disappear..."
"Anybody who wants a test can get one."

etc, etc, etc

You only have to be half paying attention to know how much dodging and lying that PoS's been doing over this.

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At the end of the day there is not a single thing that he ever could have said or done that you wouldn't bitch about.

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