Coronavirus Panic Must Stop, Press Needs to Be Held Accountable for Hurting People by 6IXSTRINGJACK

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

I think this is the extent of the way he claims people are being hurt: "businesses are getting destroyed that people’s lives are being upended". I haven't seen any businesses in my neighborhood getting destroyed. Have you seen any businesses getting destroyed over by your way, Jack?

I also think this is being overtly politicized. Every time I read something in the 'news' that mentions SARS-COV-2 and Trump in the same place, it makes me grind my teeth ... the same way that idiots focused on Trump's tweets make me grind my teeth.

There's just too much hyperbole on both fronts.

But I think this could roll out to be a credible problem.

Apropos of nothing, what we haven't seen to date is a country that just decided to let it rip. Let it do its worst. That would be an interesting data point.

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Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:57 PM

Sure, it's hyperbole, but it's nice to hear it from the other side when all you hear is the sky is falling from everybody else.

I'm the wrong person to be asking about "businesses failing" though. I don't ever spend any money on anything.

But yanno what? If facemasks are sold out at a hardware store where I live, a place that isn't going to actually feel any effects of this until long after we would know if it was really bad through places like you live, I'd be willing to bet that patronage to places like restaurants are quite a bit down too. McDonalds will weather that storm just fine, but what about the local ma and pa food joints that don't have the same resources? Or small two screen movie theaters like the one down by my brother that I love?

I won't even get into how many gross advertisements focusing on COVID and Trump I heard on the radio from Bloomberg's campaign in the few days I was helping my friend in the south suburbs of Chicago.

I'm a patient man. I look forward to this blowing over and not being anything serious so I can tell everybody that I told you so, again.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 3:19 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

How many have to die before you think it's significant? I've asked you that before.

What if the actions you think are too excessive are the ones that keep it from being the worst-case scenario? Since one can't prove a negative, you'll never be able to make your claim!

You have a really bad case of poorly-defined endpoint!

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 3:37 AM

WISHIMAY

Yeah, THE PRESS killed those 30 people.

God, yer dense.

I think we're about to get a big uptick in deaths due to it. The numbers are calling for it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8098831/Coronavirus-doctor-re
veals-patients-intensive-care-young-40.html

Dr Sam Fink is treating two patients stricken with COVID-19 and is friends with a third patient in Tarzana, CA
All three men are in intensive care, including one who is in his forties and has no preexisting conditions.

How many people you think we can fit in intensive care??? Maybe a couple hundred in our area...out of thousands possible??

But you have no intention of taking up intensive care space, so no problem....right?

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 7:42 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
How many have to die before you think it's significant? I've asked you that before.

What if the actions you think are too excessive are the ones that keep it from being the worst-case scenario? Since one can't prove a negative, you'll never be able to make your claim!

You have a really bad case of poorly-defined endpoint!

I dunno. Let's say 100 Million. In the US alone.

I've already answered your question when you asked it before.

If 33% of the population isn't curbed at the very least, and then maintained at that level, things are never going to get better when it comes to climate change and lack of resources.

If COVID doesn't do it, something else will eventually come around and do it. Maybe we run out of cillins that will save us all from Staph?

It becomes a problem when it's clear that the thing finally comes around is so devastating that it dwindles the human population down to numbers that can't even maintain today's technology and the power grid and the infrastructure.

Sorry, but 30 people got divorced in the time it took me to write this reply in the US alone.

I'm not worried about COVID.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:46 AM

And, BTW...

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What if the actions you think are too excessive are the ones that keep it from being the worst-case scenario? Since one can't prove a negative, you'll never be able to make your claim!

I'm sure that was the thinking behind the Patriot Act and the TSA as well.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 10:25 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Michael Osterholm, the infectious disease expert who has been warning for a decade and a half that the world will face a pandemic, says the US is ill-prepared to combat the coronavirus due to a shortage of equipment and supplies.

Osterholm, of the University of Minnesota, wrote in Foreign Affairs magazine in 2005 that, "Time is running out to prepare for the next pandemic. We must act now with decisiveness and purpose." He reiterated this point in his 2017 book, "Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Killer Germs."

BERGEN: So, if in a regular year in the US, the case fatality rate of influenza is 0.1%, you're saying that COVID-19 will be higher?

OSTERHOLM: Twenty to 30 times higher. It could easily be that. We just don't know yet and it could go down based on what we learn.

BERGEN: So, if the 0.1% case fatality rate of the flu kills tens of thousands in any given year in the US, what are the implications for the coronavirus?

OSTERHOLM: It's obvious that this is a very serious challenge. I think that it was unfortunate that a number of public health professionals said early on when COVID-19 first emerged that annual influenza was a much more serious problem.

What they hadn't understood was that they were only watching the opening scene of this particular "coronavirus winter," as I call it. We can expect to see a large number of deaths moving forward -- far surpassing any severe influenza season.

The Chinese data suggests that anywhere from 5% to 10% of COVID-19 cases will become severe illnesses. These cases require a tremendous amount of expert health care; that makes this disease even more of a challenge relative to influenza.

BERGEN: Are we equipped with the ICUs and the ventilators to deal with a large-scale group of people coming in with these kinds of symptoms?

OSTERHOLM: Absolutely not. Right now, today, in Minneapolis-St. Paul, every one of the beds that we use for extracorporeal membrane oxygenation (ECMO), a high-level machine that supports the heart and lungs and is critical for keeping people alive who have illness like COVID-19, are filled. This is in part because we are just coming off a moderate to severe flu season and that has really stretched our care capacity. On top of that, a number of hospitals throughout the country have only 5 to 10 days' worth of personal protective equipment (PPE) available for health care workers. They don't know when over-stretched PPE manufacturers will be able to deliver more.

More at https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/10/opinions/osterholm-coronavirus-inte
rview-bergen/index.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 10:37 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Just so you know, SECOND, the more "experts" that you drag out, the more SIX will dig in his heels.

MY reason for not even reading any of your posts fully is a little different: Because of your endless, baseless, twisted, self-contradictory, hate-filled griping, everything you post goes into my mental shit-can. You might even be right, but it still goes into my mental shit-can because all YOU do is fling shit.

Oh BTW what do you think of that oil price war?

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 10:49 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

SO, SIX, you think people "should" go on as before and ignore a highly contagious and potentially fatal disease because ... ?

You wouldn't mind sacrificing a third of the population to achieve your goal of ... Depopulation? A society living in total denial? Donald Trump's re-election? Supporting small business?

Seriously? (Oh btw you contradicted yourself, just like SECOND. I'll let you figure that one out.)

Well, go stand in the corner with the other hate-mongers here: SECOND and TWITCHY. THEY wouldn't mind seeing half (or more!) of the population die. Clearly they don't give a fuck about anybody but themselves. What about you?

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Pity would be no more,
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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 10:58 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just so you know, SECOND, the more "experts" that you drag out, the more SIX will dig in his heels.

MY reason for not even reading any of your posts fully is a little different: Because of you endless, baseless, twisted, self-contradictory, hate-filled griping, everything you post goes into my mental shit-can. You might even be right, but it still goes into my mental shit-can because all YOU do is fling shit.

Oh BTW what do you think of that oil price war?

The cost to produce a barrel of oil in Texas is very high compared to the cost in Russia and Saudi Arabia (I worked construction engineering for Saudi Aramco, once upon a time). It was inevitable that if Texas wouldn't limit its oil production by joining OPEC+ that OPEC+ would discipline overly optimistic and greedy Texas oilmen by lower prices to less than the cost in Texas but still higher than the cost of production in Russia. Once Texans understand how markets work, Texans will decide to pump less oil, just as OPEC wants them to do.

Preparing for pandemics is much like preparing for office building fires. The building owners don't want to pay for fire sprinklers added retroactively to old buildings, seeing it as a waste of their money but once the fire starts it is too late. The US didn't want to waste money preparing for a pandemic. Now it is too late for the equivalent of sprinklers. Instead, the entire fire department will have to be called. The building fire could have been kept to one floor, but now it might spread to the entire building. Hope not.

This is not an office building, but it is an example from yesterday of how being a cheapskate owner will get 72 people burned to death:
Grenfell contractors more concerned about ‘cost and delay’ than fire safety, inquest hears
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-fire-inquest-em
ails-contractors-cost-delay-safety-a9392786.html
During discussions about installing cavity barriers designed to stop flames in March 2015, it was noted an upgrade from the minimum required standard of 30 minutes’ fire-resistance to 120 minutes’ would cost an extra £12,000, the inquiry was told on Tuesday.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:56 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
How many have to die before you think it's significant? I've asked you that before.

What if the actions you think are too excessive are the ones that keep it from being the worst-case scenario? Since one can't prove a negative, you'll never be able to make your claim!

You have a really bad case of poorly-defined endpoint!

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I dunno. Let's say 100 Million. In the US alone.

I've already answered your question when you asked it before.

If 33% of the population isn't curbed at the very least, and then maintained at that level, things are never going to get better when it comes to climate change and lack of resources.

If COVID doesn't do it, something else will eventually come around and do it. Maybe we run out of cillins that will save us all from Staph?

It becomes a problem when it's clear that the thing finally comes around is so devastating that it dwindles the human population down to numbers that can't even maintain today's technology and the power grid and the infrastructure.

Sorry, but 30 people got divorced in the time it took me to write this reply in the US alone.

I'm not worried about COVID.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Well, then it would be interesting to see a real life test of you 'not caring'. Perhaps your niece would end up in the ICU. Unlikely, but it's always possible. Maybe your father, which is far more likely; or your mother, though I'm not sure you'd think that was a bad thing. Maybe your brother. Maybe you.

I can tell you from watching it happen more than once, suffocating to death is an excruciating way to die.

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:57 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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The cost to produce a barrel of oil in Texas is very high compared to the cost in Russia and Saudi Arabia (I worked construction engineering for Saudi Aramco, once upon a time). It was inevitable that if Texas wouldn't limit its oil production by joining OPEC+ that OPEC+ would discipline overly optimistic and greedy Texas oilmen by lower prices to less than the cost in Texas but still higher than the cost of production in Russia. Once Texans understand how markets work, Texans will decide to pump less oil, just as OPEC wants them to do.

Preparing for pandemics is much like preparing for office building fires. The building owners don't want to pay for fire sprinklers added retroactively to old buildings, seeing it as a waste of their money but once the fire starts it is too late. The US didn't want to waste money preparing for a pandemic. Now it is too late for the equivalent of sprinklers. Instead, the entire fire department will have to be called. The building fire could have been kept to one floor, but now it might spread to the entire building. Hope not.

This is not an office building, but it is an example from yesterday of how being a cheapskate owner will get 72 people burned to death:
Grenfell contractors more concerned about ‘cost and delay’ than fire safety, inquest hears
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-fire-inquest-em
ails-contractors-cost-delay-safety-a9392786.html
During discussions about installing cavity barriers designed to stop flames in March 2015, it was noted an upgrade from the minimum required standard of 30 minutes’ fire-resistance to 120 minutes’ would cost an extra £12,000, the inquiry was told on Tuesday.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

= SHITCAN

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 12:00 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Well, SIX, have you figured out where you contradicted yourself yet?

I'll give you a hint:

Quote:
Coronavirus Panic Must Stop, Press Needs to Be Held Accountable for Hurting People

versus

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It becomes a problem when it's ... so devastating that it dwindles the human population down to numbers that can't even maintain today's technology and the power grid and the infrastructure.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 2:36 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
The cost to produce a barrel of oil in Texas is very high compared to the cost in Russia and Saudi Arabia (I worked construction engineering for Saudi Aramco, once upon a time). It was inevitable that if Texas wouldn't limit its oil production by joining OPEC+ that OPEC+ would discipline overly optimistic and greedy Texas oilmen by lower prices to less than the cost in Texas but still higher than the cost of production in Russia. Once Texans understand how markets work, Texans will decide to pump less oil, just as OPEC wants them to do.

Preparing for pandemics is much like preparing for office building fires. The building owners don't want to pay for fire sprinklers added retroactively to old buildings, seeing it as a waste of their money but once the fire starts it is too late. The US didn't want to waste money preparing for a pandemic. Now it is too late for the equivalent of sprinklers. Instead, the entire fire department will have to be called. The building fire could have been kept to one floor, but now it might spread to the entire building. Hope not.

This is not an office building, but it is an example from yesterday of how being a cheapskate owner will get 72 people burned to death:
Grenfell contractors more concerned about ‘cost and delay’ than fire safety, inquest hears
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-fire-inquest-em
ails-contractors-cost-delay-safety-a9392786.html
During discussions about installing cavity barriers designed to stop flames in March 2015, it was noted an upgrade from the minimum required standard of 30 minutes’ fire-resistance to 120 minutes’ would cost an extra £12,000, the inquiry was told on Tuesday.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
= SHITCAN

Incorrect, Signym, you are shit head, unable to imagine a pandemic is similar to high rise fire. Coronavirus and Grenfell are similar; the authorities did a poor job before, during and after because they could not imagine a man-made catastrophe.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 2:56 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Coronavirus and Grenfell are similar; the authorities did a poor job before, during and after because they could not imagine a man-made catastrophe.

You could say that about ANY of the man-made catastrophes we're facing now.

Anything else vapid to say, like, yanno, val girl??

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 3:08 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:
Coronavirus and Grenfell are similar; the authorities did a poor job before, during and after because they could not imagine a man-made catastrophe.
You could say that about ANY of the man-made catastrophes we're facing now.

Anything else vapid to say, like, yanno, val girl??

So far, Trump is in denial over the seriousness of the pandemic, despite skyrocketing infection numbers. "It will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away," Trump told the nation on Tuesday.

Trump's campaign says it's still full steam ahead, announcing a large "Catholics for Trump" event at a Wisconsin convention center on March 19.

In contrast to Trump's indifference to pandemic, Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden both canceled rallies planned to cap off Super Tuesday II.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 3:35 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:
Coronavirus and Grenfell are similar; the authorities did a poor job before, during and after because they could not imagine a man-made catastrophe.
You could say that about ANY of the man-made catastrophes we're facing now.

Anything else vapid to say, like, yanno, val girl??

Trump Has Ordered Coronavirus Meetings To Be Classified

wtf?

The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus. Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

This White House is insane. How many extra people are going to die because they’re hellbent on letting Donald Trump pretend that everything is totally under control instead of doing everything they can to limit the spread and mortality rate of the coronavirus?

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/03/trump-has-ordered-coronavirus-m
eetings-to-be-classified/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 4:04 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Maybe you should be arguing with Jack about this. I'm not the one saying it's no big deal.

In fact, I started the original thread about this LONG before you ~~figured out it might be a problem~~ decided to be a political opportunist about it. You even argued and said this wasn't meaningful, and that any medical problems were a result of being a wrong-thinking republican (which btw I'm not).

Remember?

In fact, you're doing EXACTLY what Trump is doing, and treating this as a political event, and not the serious real-world life-and-death crisis it is. I would be shocked as hell if you could post 5 posts in a row about this, and not mention Trump or his administration even once.

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 4:36 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Maybe you should be arguing with Jack about this. I'm not the one saying it's no big deal.

In fact, I started the original thread about this LONG before you ~~figured out it might be a problem~~ decided to be a political opportunist about it. You even argued and said this wasn't meaningful, and that any medical problems were a result of being a wrong-thinking republican (which btw I'm not).

Remember?

In fact, you're doing EXACTLY what Trump is doing, and treating this as a political event, and not the serious real-world life-and-death crisis it is. I would be shocked as hell if you could post 5 posts in a row about this, and not mention Trump or his administration even once.

The way Trump handles Coronavirus is exactly how he handles everything:

“My net worth fluctuates, and it goes up and down with the markets and with attitudes and with feelings, even my own feelings,” Donald Trump said in a 2007 deposition for a lawsuit he filed against journalist Tim O’Brien for reporting that Trump was not a billionaire. “Let me just understand that a little,” said O’Brien’s lawyer. “Your net worth goes up and down based upon your own feelings?” “Yes,” Trump said, “even my own feelings, as to where the world is, where the world is going, and that can change rapidly from day to day.”

I’m surfacing that exchange now because it’s a useful window into our present moment. The president of the United States has long believed three things: The first is that reality isn’t real, there’s only “narrative.” The second is that he controls that narrative in accordance with his feelings (and Fox News). The third is that only his feelings are real or worth considering. Tempting though it may be to dismiss these as the ravings of a solipsist, it’s to Trump’s credit that he has gotten a surprisingly large number of people to subscribe to these three tenets. Much of the apparatus of the executive branch is now led by people who bow to his whims and go to shocking lengths to make the things he says at least seem true. His attorney general has waved away investigations into the corruption he denies. The National Weather Service formally instructed the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration not to correct the president’s Sharpie modification of Hurricane Dorian’s path, even if it meant giving Americans in danger the wrong information. The director of national intelligence is refusing to brief Congress on electoral interference, reportedly over concerns he might say things Trump would find upsetting.

Now Trump is trying to force-of-will a pandemic into not being a pandemic at all. “It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear,” Trump said at the White House on Feb. 28.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/03/coronavirus-crisis-trump-s
pin-fail.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 4:44 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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The way SECOND handles Coronavirus is exactly how he handles everything: force-of-will a pandemic into being a political opportunity.

fify

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 5:32 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
The way Trump handles Coronavirus is exactly how he handles everything:

“My net worth fluctuates, and it goes up and down with the markets and with attitudes and with feelings, even my own feelings,” Donald Trump said in a 2007 deposition for a lawsuit he filed against journalist Tim O’Brien for reporting that Trump was not a billionaire. “Let me just understand that a little,” said O’Brien’s lawyer. “Your net worth goes up and down based upon your own feelings?” “Yes,” Trump said, “even my own feelings, as to where the world is, where the world is going, and that can change rapidly from day to day.”

I’m surfacing that exchange now because it’s a useful window into our present moment. The president of the United States has long believed three things: The first is that reality isn’t real, there’s only “narrative.” The second is that he controls that narrative in accordance with his feelings (and Fox News). The third is that only his feelings are real or worth considering. Tempting though it may be to dismiss these as the ravings of a solipsist, it’s to Trump’s credit that he has gotten a surprisingly large number of people to subscribe to these three tenets. Much of the apparatus of the executive branch is now led by people who bow to his whims and go to shocking lengths to make the things he says at least seem true. His attorney general has waved away investigations into the corruption he denies. The National Weather Service formally instructed the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration not to correct the president’s Sharpie modification of Hurricane Dorian’s path, even if it meant giving Americans in danger the wrong information. The director of national intelligence is refusing to brief Congress on electoral interference, reportedly over concerns he might say things Trump would find upsetting.

Now Trump is trying to force-of-will a pandemic into not being a pandemic at all. “It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear,” Trump said at the White House on Feb. 28.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/03/coronavirus-crisis-trump-s
pin-fail.html

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 5:50 PM

WISHIMAY

The only sentence in the news that matters today...

Coronavirus cases in Italy have jumped in the last 24 hours by 196 to 827.

In ONE DAY, 631 more people.

Spain, France, and Denmark, are also getting smacked.

Also, some brown people caught something.
Coronavirus infections in Qatar rise 1,000% in ONE DAY from 24 to 262.

958 new cases, 63 new deaths and 228 new recoveries in Iran. Total cases reach 9,000

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

4,600 people dead in less than... 2 months-ish??

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 5:58 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
The way Trump handles Coronavirus is exactly how he handles everything: . . .
= SHITCAN

Signym, you have shit for brains. Trump promised he'd make his income tax returns available. A promise that he repeated many times. When the audits were finished on his taxes, he still didn't make the returns available. He has been sued and lost that case about keeping his returns a secret six times in a row. The Supreme Court will be seven. He handled Coronavirus the same as his tax returns. He lies over and over, whatever lie best serves himself. Trump did the same with his blind trust as he has done with Coronavirus. He promised a blind trust, but what he delivered on paper is nothing like a blind trust. He promised a replacement for Obamacare, but what he delivered to the Senate was nothing. There was no replacement described in a bill that the Senate could vote on. Trump just says whatever serves himself best, never really meaning anything with his words about Obamacare or Coronavirus.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 6:17 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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The way SECOND handles Coronavirus is exactly how he handles everything: force-of-will a pandemic into being a political opportunity.

fify

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 6:57 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Signym, you have shit for brains. Trump promised he'd make his income tax returns available. A promise that he repeated many times. When the audits were finished on his taxes, he still didn't make the returns available. He has been sued and lost that case about keeping his returns a secret six times in a row. The Supreme Court will be seven. He handled Coronavirus the same as his tax returns. He lies over and over, whatever lie best serves himself. Trump did the same with his blind trust as he has done with Coronavirus. He promised a blind trust, but what he delivered on paper is nothing like a blind trust. He promised a replacement for Obamacare, but what he delivered to the Senate was nothing. There was no replacement described in a bill that the Senate could vote on. Trump just says whatever serves himself best, never really meaning anything with his words about Obamacare or Coronavirus.

= SHITCAN

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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:02 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SO, SIX, you think people "should" go on as before and ignore a highly contagious and potentially fatal disease because ... ?

Yes.

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You wouldn't mind sacrificing a third of the population to achieve your goal of ... Depopulation? A society living in total denial? Donald Trump's re-election? Supporting small business?

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

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Seriously? (Oh btw you contradicted yourself, just like SECOND. I'll let you figure that one out.)

Okay.

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Well, go stand in the corner with the other hate-mongers here: SECOND and TWITCHY. THEY wouldn't mind seeing half (or more!) of the population die. Clearly they don't give a fuck about anybody but themselves. What about you?

The only difference here is I'm not picking and choosing who.

A virus is the most fair way to do it, like I pointed out before... as long as it hasn't been genetically engineered to target specific DNA.

Shirley Jackson's Lottery x Seven Billion.

Let the chips fall where they may. We're all gonna go sometime. I'm alright if it's my time.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:05 PM

I'm furious about the Legacy Media politicizing this and generating a ton of ad revenue from it.

I didn't realize the effect this fear mongering was having on people today until I had to restrain myself from giving a 66 year old woman that I know a hug because she probably would have recoiled in horror.

She's cracking up. She went to WalMart today and couldn't find anything she was looking for and she says the store was in shambles.

She thinks she's going to die.

Seriously. WTF.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:08 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
= SHITCAN

Will you shitcan Trump's speech tonight? Or will you fify (fixed it for Trump)?
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
I will be addressing the Nation this evening at 9:00 P.M. (Eastern) from the Oval Office.
3:44 PM · Mar 11, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1237841878889840642

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:12 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
= SHITCAN
Will you shitcan Trump's speech tonight? Or will you fify (fixed it for Trump)?
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
I will be addressing the Nation this evening at 9:00 P.M. (Eastern) from the Oval Office.
3:44 PM · Mar 11, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1237841878889840642

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

I won't be watching it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:20 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

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Well, go stand in the corner with the other hate-mongers here: SECOND and TWITCHY. THEY wouldn't mind seeing half (or more!) of the population die. Clearly they don't give a fuck about anybody but themselves. What about you?

The only difference here is I'm not picking and choosing who.

A virus is the most fair way to do it, like I pointed out before... as long as it hasn't been genetically engineered to target specific DNA.

Shirley Jackson's Lottery x Seven Billion.

Let the chips fall where they may. We're all gonna go sometime. I'm alright if it's my time.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

This does NOT have to be a catastrophe. Taiwan has millions of visitors from China and only 45 coronavirus cases and one death. Here’s how Taiwan did it:
www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/3/10/21171722/taiwan-coronavirus-china
-social-distancing-quarantine

Aggressive measures starting in December saved Taiwan. Can we learn from them?

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:24 PM

I still don't even think there's anything to worry about at all.

I'm just saying I don't really give shit if there is either.

Whatever.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 10:25 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Will you shitcan Trump's speech tonight? Or will you fify (fixed it for Trump)?
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
I will be addressing the Nation this evening at 9:00 P.M. (Eastern) from the Oval Office.
3:44 PM · Mar 11, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1237841878889840642

=> SHITCAN

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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 10:25 PM

JONGSSTRAW

"I still don't even think there's anything to worry about at all."

I'm sure lots of people said the same thing in Europe about the Black Plague.... like "Oh what's the big deal about a few dead rats?"

Corona was declared a pandemic today. I don't think that's something to ignore or poo-poo. People with weak immune systems are the most vulnerable. Beyond that, stay clean and don't breathe too much.

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 10:34 PM

LOL

NBA cancels its entire season.

Tom Hanks and his wife have Coronavirus.

IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD!!!!!!

We survived GWB and Obama. We'll survive this.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 10:40 PM

I have to go grocery shopping tomorrow and see if the assholes are panicking and buying everything out.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:03 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

I went to one of my usual stores today and all was fine. Tomorrow I'll go to the other. I expect it to be fine too, except for the normal level of inability to get stuff that's been going on for about a year.

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:09 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Look at Italy - they actually have a world-class medical system in the north (where the pandemic first hit) but because they didn't get control of the virus early thru strong government action (closing schools, banning gatherings, getting out the message of voluntary "social distancing") their hospitals are totally overwhelmed. Ambulance response times used to be eight minutes, it's now an hour. Surgical suites, general wards, hallways are all being turned into intensive care units and pathologists and ENTs and gynecologists are being turned into intensivists, doctors and nurses are burning out over too much work and seeing too many people die when all they can offer is a mask and an oxygen tank. Medical staff are themselves falling ill. And these north Italians are NOT flooding hospitals with the merest sniffle: They stay home for 10, 14 days until they can't stand it anymore.

The entire nation of Italy just now had to be put on lockdown.. If they had bitten the bullet a month ago, the economic pain and death would have been much, much lighter.

*****

According to some, we are where Italy was a month ago. In a month, we could be where Italy is now. Our hospitals could be in complete chaos, with COVID19 victims and heart attack victims and trauma victims all dying, equally unattended, in a crowded hospital corridor, like a scene out of Contagion.

If it gets that bad, Trump will deservedly be blamed. His first response was to blame China and prop up the stock market instead of taking prompt action to blunt the pandemic.

Nobody will blame Trump for COVID19 puncturing the stock bubble. But they WILL blame him if he fails to take effective action. (And, no, that doesn't included meaningless but dramatic publicity stunts.) Whatever the Italian PM Conte should have been doing a month ago, Trump should be doing now. That might mean closing schools and shuttering all shops except food and pharmacies. Maybe even temporarily nationalizing the healthcare system and pharmaceuticals to mobilize resources to where they're needed most.

In the meantime ... and in the absence of government action ... practice social distancing. Don't go to voluntary gatherings, stay away from churches, schools, and doctors' offices, restaurants, bars, gyms etc. Don't touch your face. Wash yur hand often. If you have a mask, wear one. Learn how to take if off and put it on properly.

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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Thursday, March 12, 2020 12:08 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

I was listening to KNX1070 and I was impressed with what state, local, and private entities are doing in the absence of federal leadership. A lot of activities have been cancelled completely, the UC system is going to online classes for at least a month, many schools are expected to be closed for at least a month - and so on.

I have no idea where they're getting their guidance from, but obviously someone has impressed on a few people the importance of doing this NOW, while it's still doable, instead of later, when the epidemic is in full swing and it'll be no help at all.

Anyway, tomorrow I'll finish my usual stocking up - which I always do to reduce trips and gas consumption - and gassing up, and continue to limit my trips.

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Thursday, March 12, 2020 1:28 AM

WISHIMAY

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I still don't even think there's anything to worry about at all.

I'm just saying I don't really give shit if there is either.

Whatever.

^
^
^
What mental illness looks like.

Yanno, you sure post a LOT about it for someone who supposedly doesn't care. I mean, what's your goal?? To get people to not notice their own deaths??

To act like the most macho ass on Earth??

IF YOUR HEALTH DOESN'T MATTER, GO GET THE VIRUS.
GO HAVE SEX WITH INNER CITY HOOKERS.
DRINK AND DRIVE, DUDE.
WHOOOO

I mean, life is just one big meaningless hoax, right??
Not one second of your life matters a damn, right?

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Thursday, March 12, 2020 2:55 AM

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SIX: I still don't even think there's anything to worry about at all.
I'm just saying I don't really give shit if there is either.
Whatever.

TWITCHIMAY: What mental illness looks like.

Yanno, you sure post a LOT about it for someone who supposedly doesn't care. I mean, what's your goal?? To get people to not notice their own deaths??
To act like the most macho ass on Earth??

IF YOUR HEALTH DOESN'T MATTER, GO GET THE VIRUS.
GO HAVE SEX WITH INNER CITY HOOKERS.
DRINK AND DRIVE, DUDE.
WHOOOO

I mean, life is just one big meaningless hoax, right??
Not one second of your life matters a damn, right?

Do you know why SIX is a better person than you are?

His thinking goes askew when it comes to viral diseases. YOUR thought processes ... such as they are ... are twisted about everything. And you're just so mean. All the time. You can't help yourself, can you?

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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Thursday, March 12, 2020 7:39 AM

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Thursday, March 12, 2020 9:30 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Do you know why SIX is a better person than you are?

His thinking goes askew when it comes to viral diseases. YOUR thought processes ... such as they are ... are twisted about everything. And you're just so mean. All the time. You can't help yourself, can you?

You're talking about Kiki, right? Wish treats people the way they treat her, just like I do. Funny how that works.

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Thursday, March 12, 2020 9:44 AM

No she doesn't. She comes in and attacks people regardless of the topic when they've said nothing about her.

If the way people treat her has gotten worse over time, which I have little doubt that it has, she has nobody but herself and her own behavior to blame for that. She's an awful person.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, March 12, 2020 11:55 AM

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The reviews on Wall Street to President Donald Trump’s prime-time Oval Office address on the response to the coronavirus were not kind.

From Trump’s misstatements of White House policy to his lack of clarity on the funding he wanted, analysts said the speech ended up being more harm than help in his apparent desire to calm financial markets. The speech included him saying that cargo from Europe would be blocked, which the White House clarified was not accurate and that the ban was limited to passengers.

Here’s a look at what some are saying, as markets kicked off another rough day, with U.S. stocks (S&P 500, -8.18%) falling sharply enough at the opening bell to trigger the week’s second trading halt.

• “President Trump in an extraordinary Oval Office address didn’t offer up major new ideas on stimulus and only said he’d propose a vague payroll tax holiday to Congress without strongly standing up for any firm size/magnitude. This effectively kicks the issue to Congress which is still planning to go on recess next week.” — Ernie Tedeschi, Evercore ISI

• “President Trump’s address to the nation was symptomatic of the lack of policy coordination in the face of a global coronavirus pandemic. Amidst rapidly rising domestic COVID-19 infections, the president blamed Europe for mismanaging the crisis, and imposed a 30-day ban of foreigners travelling from the region.” — Gregory Daco, Oxford Economics

• “In our view, the failure to include announcements of stronger domestic public health responses — from expanded testing to mobilization of emergency medical capabilities — will hinder Administration efforts to build public trust in the US effort. The counter to Trump’s response is already beginning to form, as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) introduced her opening bid for what a stimulus package will look like.” — Clayton Allen, Height Securities

• “Markets are upset because 1) there are few policies to limit the near-term economic damage; 2) President Trump got several policies wrong, raising questions about policy coherence; and 3) characterizing this as a foreign virus suggests an unrealistic assessment of the risks.” — Paul Donovan, UBS

• “We are confident that a macroeconomically significant ($100bln+) fiscal policy package will eventually pass Congress, but likely not before the one-week recess beginning Friday. Markets will likely remain sensitive to headlines regarding negotiations between Congress and the administration.” — Andrew Hollenhorst, Citi

More at www.marketwatch.com/story/symptomatic-of-the-lack-of-policy-coordinati
on-heres-what-wall-street-analysts-are-saying-about-trumps-speech-2020-03-12

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Thursday, March 12, 2020 12:05 PM

Hope all you gamblers in the DOW saw this one coming.

Don't gamble with money you need or you don't have in the first place.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, March 12, 2020 12:09 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...

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No she doesn't.

Yes she does.

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Thursday, March 12, 2020 12:18 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hope all you gamblers in the DOW saw this one coming.

Don't gamble with money you need or you don't have in the first place.

Always sound advice. I also like: "know your limits."

Over the long term the market has been pretty reliable.

Glad to see trading suspended. It's crazy to think business valuations can have real merit during such an effed up time. Whatever, it'll come back - it always does. And if it doesn't, then we got bigger problems.

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Thursday, March 12, 2020 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hope all you gamblers in the DOW saw this one coming.

Don't gamble with money you need or you don't have in the first place.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

If you could buy at 40% off the normal price, would not buy? That is what is happening on the stock market.

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