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Tuesday, January 28, 2020 12:20 PM

THG


If John Bolton testifies its game over. Let me explain why. Bolton will name others, staff, generals, ambassadors and top intelligence officers who will collaborate his testimony. They then, will have to be called to testify.

No, the democrats don’t have to agree to the Biden’s being called. The republicans not calling Bolton at this point will be seen by the country as a cover-up.

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Tuesday, January 28, 2020 3:14 PM

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The independent Quinnipiac University Poll regularly surveys residents in Connecticut, Florida, New York, New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and nationwide about political races, state and national elections and issues of public concern.

The January 28 national poll found 75% of voters say allow witnesses in Senate impeachment trial; 53% say President Trump not telling truth about Ukraine.

https://poll.qu.edu/

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Tuesday, January 28, 2020 4:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol

Look at T sucking Bolton's dick.

I told you that would happen.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 29, 2020 6:52 AM

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The January 28 national poll found 75% of voters say allow witnesses in Senate impeachment trial; 53% say President Trump not telling truth about Ukraine.

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Friday, January 31, 2020 7:48 AM

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lol

Look at T sucking Bolton's dick.

I told you that would happen.

Democratic Sen. Kyrsten Sinema ended Wednesday’s portion of the impeachment trial with a good question that exposed one of many weaknesses in Trump’s defense: Why was the hold on aid for Ukraine done in secret?

The administration held up foreign aid to Northern Triangle countries in March 2019 and Afghanistan last September. Sinema, from Arizona, pointed out that in each of those instances, officials followed lawful procedure and notified Congress as well as the affected countries.

“In these instances, the receiving countries knew the funds were being withheld to change behavior, and further publicly stated American policy,” said Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, reading Sinema’s question. “Why, when the administration withheld the Ukrainian security assistance, did it not notify Congress, or make Ukraine or partner countries publicly aware of the hold and the steps needed to resolve the hold?”

Under federal law, the president is required to notify Congress to change how they’ve appropriated money. In the case of Ukraine, a top government watchdog found that Trump violated the law because he did not.

Democrats want to know: If Trump’s intentions were even somewhat pure, then why did the administration implement the freeze as it did?

A Trump defense team lawyer, Patrick Philbin, could only muster a weak response to Sinema.

More at www.vox.com/2020/1/30/21114971/kyrsten-sinema-impeachment-trial-patric
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Friday, January 31, 2020 9:50 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yup. And Congress is supposed to make declarations of war too.

How many illegitimate wars are we in since GWB now? It's hard to keep track of them all.

Congress is just really bad at its job.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, January 31, 2020 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. And Congress is supposed to make declarations of war too.

How many illegitimate wars are we in since GWB now? It's hard to keep track of them all.

Congress is just really bad at its job.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Congress is NOT really bad at its job. Congress correctly sees, in my opinion, its job as getting reelected. Then who is bad? It is the majority of voters who keep reelecting the same old Congressmen: Reelection Rates Over the Years
Few things in life are more predictable than the chances of an incumbent member of the U.S. House of Representatives winning reelection. Senate races still overwhelmingly favor the incumbent, but not by as reliable a margin as House races.
More at www.opensecrets.org/overview/reelect.php

This situation explains everything that is wrong in the Federal government and it is all the fault of the majority of voters. But the majority of Americans cannot see that their problems are caused by their crappy decisions. They keep hoping that somebody else, maybe Congress, will fix the mess the American voters keep perpetuating. But your Congressman failed so many times before so why do Americans keep returning the same failures to office? Because the majority is at or below average in intelligence. I want to get rid of Senator Cruz and Cornyn, but the majority of Texas voters will keep reelecting those two failures forever. Cruz and Cornyn know that, and behave as you'd expect for lazy employees who can't be fired.


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Friday, January 31, 2020 10:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. And Congress is supposed to make declarations of war too.

How many illegitimate wars are we in since GWB now? It's hard to keep track of them all.

Congress is just really bad at its job.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Congress is NOT really bad at its job. Congress correctly sees, in my opinion, its job as getting reelected. Then who is bad? It is the majority of voters who keep reelecting the same old Congressmen: Reelection Rates Over the Years
Few things in life are more predictable than the chances of an incumbent member of the U.S. House of Representatives winning reelection. Senate races still overwhelmingly favor the incumbent, but not by as reliable a margin as House races.
More at www.opensecrets.org/overview/reelect.php

This situation explains everything that is wrong in the Federal government and it is all the fault of the majority of voters. But the majority of Americans cannot see that their problems are caused by their crappy decisions. They keep hoping that somebody else, maybe Congress, will fix the mess the American voters keep perpetuating. But your Congressman failed so many times before so why do Americans keep returning the same failures to office? Because the majority is at or below average in intelligence. I want to get rid of Senator Cruz and Cornyn, but the majority of Texas voters will keep reelecting those two failures forever. Cruz and Cornyn know that, and behave as you'd expect for lazy employees who can't be fired.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Let's just put term limits on Congress. Problem solved.

Oh... wait. That would require a majority vote to put them all out on the street without any skills that are marketable outside of the political realm.

Nevermind.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, January 31, 2020 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Let's just put term limits on Congress. Problem solved.

Oh... wait. That would require a majority vote to put them all out on the street without any skills that are marketable outside of the political realm.

Nevermind.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Your solution lets the majority of voters be completely irresponsible for their stupidity in not firing their failure of a Congressman. That makes it a bad solution.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 31, 2020 11:52 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Let's just put term limits on Congress. Problem solved.

Oh... wait. That would require a majority vote to put them all out on the street without any skills that are marketable outside of the political realm.

Nevermind.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Your solution lets the majority of voters be completely irresponsible for their stupidity in not firing their failure of a Congressman. That makes it a bad solution.




Well you're not going to fix stupid.

I believe that people who have a lower than 120 IQ shouldn't even be allowed to vote, personally. But, yanno, Democrats claim that's racist.

So. What's your solution?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, January 31, 2020 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Let's just put term limits on Congress. Problem solved.

Oh... wait. That would require a majority vote to put them all out on the street without any skills that are marketable outside of the political realm.

Nevermind.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Your solution lets the majority of voters be completely irresponsible for their stupidity in not firing their failure of a Congressman. That makes it a bad solution.




Well you're not going to fix stupid.

I believe that people who have a lower than 120 IQ shouldn't even be allowed to vote, personally. But, yanno, Democrats claim that's racist.

So. What's your solution?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Do you remember this comment of yours?
Quote:

Yup. And Congress is supposed to make declarations of war too.

How many illegitimate wars are we in since GWB now? It's hard to keep track of them all.

Congress is just really bad at its job.

The voters would force/demand that their Congressman make the decision to go to war if the voters were required to go to the war the President starts.

But you have probably noticed, almost no voters go to war. Instead, mercenaries do the fighting and they do a crappy job, too, losing constantly because they do it mostly for their pay, not for a win. The voters are not at risk themselves, which is why they act irresponsibly about the wars the President starts.

The number of mercenaries is small compared to the number of voters who make money from the jobs created by the defense industries. That is another reason for voters and Congressmen to be irresponsible about going to war. The way to fix the system is to make the voters suffer or die when they make the wrong decision.

Even better idea: if the President loses a war or it is a stalemate, execute the President. That ought to be in the Constitution. It would certainly make Presidents more cautious about going to war.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 31, 2020 12:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Let's just put term limits on Congress. Problem solved.

Oh... wait. That would require a majority vote to put them all out on the street without any skills that are marketable outside of the political realm.

Nevermind.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Your solution lets the majority of voters be completely irresponsible for their stupidity in not firing their failure of a Congressman. That makes it a bad solution.




Well you're not going to fix stupid.

I believe that people who have a lower than 120 IQ shouldn't even be allowed to vote, personally. But, yanno, Democrats claim that's racist.

So. What's your solution?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Do you remember this comment of yours?
Quote:

Yup. And Congress is supposed to make declarations of war too.

How many illegitimate wars are we in since GWB now? It's hard to keep track of them all.

Congress is just really bad at its job.




Yup. I remember the comment I made. I don't constantly lie like you do so I don't have to keep a tally of what I've said in the past and worry about it being hypocritical. (Something that you don't even bother doing, because every other post you make contradicts something else you said five minutes beforehand).


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The voters would force/demand that their Congressman make the decision to go to war if the voters were required to go to the war the President starts.

But you have probably noticed, almost no voters go to war. Instead, mercenaries do the fighting and they do a crappy job, too, losing constantly because they do it mostly for their pay, not for a win. The voters are not at risk themselves, which is why they act irresponsibly about the wars the President starts.

The number of mercenaries is small compared to the number of voters who make money from the jobs created by the defense industries. That is another reason for voters and Congressmen to be irresponsible about going to war. The way to fix the system is to make the voters suffer or die when they make the wrong decision.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Oh. Okay. So fascism is the cure then. Make them suffer or die when they make the wrong decision.

I suppose that you are the arbiter of what makes a right and wrong decision in this scenario too?




Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, January 31, 2020 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Oh. Okay. So fascism is the cure then. Make them suffer or die when they make the wrong decision.

I suppose that you are the arbiter of what makes a right and wrong decision in this scenario too?

A wrong decision would be losing the war or the war becomes a stalemate. The punishment? The voters get drafted into the war that is being lost. Throw more bodies at the enemy, like it was WWII. But right now, when America starts losing or is in stalemate, nothing happens other than a few mercenaries get a concussion or killed. Since nothing happens to voters, why would the voters force their Congressman to vote against war? And why would Congress not let the President do whatever he pleases? If the majority of voters don't care, because there is no risk for them, why should Congress care what the President does, since stopping the President will mean the Congressman will lose some votes in the next election?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 31, 2020 3:57 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Oh. Okay. So fascism is the cure then. Make them suffer or die when they make the wrong decision.

I suppose that you are the arbiter of what makes a right and wrong decision in this scenario too?

A wrong decision would be losing the war or the war becomes a stalemate. The punishment? The voters get drafted into the war that is being lost. Throw more bodies at the enemy, like it was WWII. But right now, when America starts losing or is in stalemate, nothing happens other than a few mercenaries get a concussion or killed. Since nothing happens to voters, why would the voters force their Congressman to vote against war? And why would Congress not let the President do whatever he pleases? If the majority of voters don't care, because there is no risk for them, why should Congress care what the President does, since stopping the President will mean the Congressman will lose some votes in the next election?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




So I'm asking you what your solution is, stupid.

All you're doing is going around in circles and talking bullshit.



Nothing you have said is a better idea than term limits. You didn't like term limits. You want people to die. But people aren't going to die.

So, I'll ask again, what is your solution.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, January 31, 2020 4:28 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Oh. Okay. So fascism is the cure then. Make them suffer or die when they make the wrong decision.

I suppose that you are the arbiter of what makes a right and wrong decision in this scenario too?

A wrong decision would be losing the war or the war becomes a stalemate. The punishment? The voters get drafted into the war that is being lost. Throw more bodies at the enemy, like it was WWII. But right now, when America starts losing or is in stalemate, nothing happens other than a few mercenaries get a concussion or killed. Since nothing happens to voters, why would the voters force their Congressman to vote against war? And why would Congress not let the President do whatever he pleases? If the majority of voters don't care, because there is no risk for them, why should Congress care what the President does, since stopping the President will mean the Congressman will lose some votes in the next election?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




So I'm asking you what your solution is, stupid.

All you're doing is going around in circles and talking bullshit.



Nothing you have said is a better idea than term limits. You didn't like term limits. You want people to die. But people aren't going to die.

So, I'll ask again, what is your solution.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Term limits is a crappy solution because it kicks out perfectly good Congressmen and it still does not force them to vote yay or nay on war. What you have not grasped is that tinkering around with the rules won't fix the problem of going to war whenever the President, one person, is in the mood. You'd have to change things either
1) radically -- a national referendum on a Declaration of War
or
2) thoughtfully -- the voters act like they give a damn about the Constitution, which requires Congress to declare war.

Placing term limits on Congressmen won't make them want to decide about war. If nobody is supervising/threatening Congress, it will just goof-off, doing only the parts of the job that are easiest.

The choice is really either the voters very slowly making the War decision themselves or the voters forcing Congress to make the decision slightly faster, or to violate the Constitution by letting the President make fast and ridiculous decisions about War. Term limits is not any one of those; it will do nothing.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 31, 2020 6:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Says the guy who only gives a damn about the Constitution when it suits him.



Most people don't care, and they're never going to care. But they still get a vote and are brainwashed by either side to vote to vote for that side.

If I made the rules, the first thing I would do is take away any person's right to vote who has ever once in their lives just pressed the button to vote straight party line.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, January 31, 2020 6:47 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Says the guy who only gives a damn about the Constitution when it suits him.

Most people don't care, and they're never going to care. But they still get a vote and are brainwashed by either side to vote to vote for that side.

If I made the rules, the first thing I would do is take away any person's right to vote who has ever once in their lives just pressed the button to vote straight party line.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Have you checked around you? Most people don't care about anything but the food in their mouth. The Universe pays them back for their wide-ranging indifference/apathy by not caring about them any more than it cares about squirrels in the trees and deer in the forest.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 31, 2020 7:53 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"Because the majority is at or below average in intelligence." Statistically speaking, I can see the majority of voters being 'at' normal intelligence. But statistically speaking, I can't see the majority of voters being below normal intelligence.

A statement like that would have to have been made by someone pretty stupid.

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Friday, January 31, 2020 8:59 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Says the guy who only gives a damn about the Constitution when it suits him.

Most people don't care, and they're never going to care. But they still get a vote and are brainwashed by either side to vote to vote for that side.

If I made the rules, the first thing I would do is take away any person's right to vote who has ever once in their lives just pressed the button to vote straight party line.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Have you checked around you? Most people don't care about anything but the food in their mouth. The Universe pays them back for their wide-ranging indifference/apathy by not caring about them any more than it cares about squirrels in the trees and deer in the forest.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




You've changed topic so much here today that I'm having a hard time remembering what we were arguing about in the beginning, and an even harder time caring about it at all.

We're agreed that most people are stupid.

I'm of the mind that "average" intelligence means dumb, and those who sit right in the middle shouldn't be happy with where they're sitting.

Add to that a public school system that is designed to cripple our brains and make us stupid laborers and nothing more, and that's why we are where we are at right now.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, February 1, 2020 8:13 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
"Because the majority is at or below average in intelligence." Statistically speaking, I can see the majority of voters being 'at' normal intelligence. But statistically speaking, I can't see the majority of voters being below normal intelligence.

A statement like that would have to have been made by someone pretty stupid.

“In 2016, Donald Trump captured 68 percent of the vote in West Virginia, a state hit hard by opioid overdoses,” begins the 2018 NPR story: “Analysis Finds Geographic Overlap In Opioid Use And Trump Support In 2016.”

The NPR story was about a study published in JAMA Network Open titled “Association of Chronic Opioid Use With Presidential Voting Patterns in US Counties in 2016,” lead authored by physician James Goodwin. In counties with high rates of opioid use, Trump received 60% of the vote; but Trump received only 39% of the vote in counties with low opioid use. Opioid use is prevalent in poor rural counties, as Goodwin reports in his study: “Approximately two-thirds of the association between opioid rates and presidential voting was explained by socioeconomic variables.”

Goodwin told NPR: “It very well may be that if you’re in a county that is dissolving because of opioids, you’re looking around and you’re seeing ruin. That can lead to a sense of despair . . . . You want something different. You want radical change.”

A Hollywood Dem could viscerally communicate in 30 seconds about Trump and Radical Change: “You fantasized that this braggart would be your hero, but you discovered he’s just another rich asshole politician out for himself.” This strategy will not necessarily get Dems the shit-life syndrome vote, but will increase the likelihood that these folks stay home on Election Day and not vote for Trump.

More at www.counterpunch.org/2020/01/03/shit-life-syndrome-trump-voters-and-cl
ueless-dems
/

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Saturday, February 1, 2020 8:44 AM

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lol

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Saturday, February 1, 2020 10:55 AM

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Saturday, February 1, 2020 11:53 AM

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lol

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Saturday, February 1, 2020 12:21 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Ooops.

Looks like you all blew your wad on your Fake Impeachment.

Now you'll need to go back to your Countdown to Impeachment. Maybe you'll try for a non-Fake Impeachment this time. Article 3?

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Saturday, February 1, 2020 12:39 PM

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Ooops.

Looks like you all blew your wad on your Fake Impeachment.

Now you'll need to go back to your Countdown to Impeachment. Maybe you'll try for a non-Fake Impeachment this time. Article 3?

Back when Nixon was in Watergate trouble, there weren't enough Republican votes in the Senate to remove him, but for the good of his political party Nixon stepped down to let Gerald Ford, his perfectly satisfactory V.P., run the country and run in the next election. There will never be enough Republican Senators voting for removal of a Republican to be replaced with perfectly satisfactory V.P. Mike Pence. And Trump would never step down to help his party. Besides, once he steps down Congress will get him for income tax evasion. Nixon also got caught cheating on his taxes by Congress. Trump knows the same will happen to him, so he needs another 4 years in the White House to delay the day when he finally pays.

President Nixon's Troublesome Tax Returns
www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/cf7c9c870b600b9585256df80075b9dd/f
8723e3606cd79ec85256ff6006f82c3?OpenDocument

What is striking is how little income tax was paid. Nixon's four-year average of tax-to-gross income was only 7 percent. By agreeing to pay $465,000, Nixon's wealth was reduced to half of the previous $988,522. One White House spokesman stated that Nixon was "almost totally wiped out" by the agreement (WSJ, Apr. 5, 1974). However, Nixon was fortunate to have had $433,000 in liquid assets to pay the tax deficiency.

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Monday, February 17, 2020 9:30 AM

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More than 1,110 former Justice Department officials who served in Republican as well as Democratic administrations posted a statement calling on Attorney General Bill Barr to resign.


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Monday, February 17, 2020 2:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Tuesday, February 18, 2020 12:58 PM

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Roger Stone will be sentenced Thursday despite his ongoing bid to overturn conviction

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/stone-sentencing-thursday-desp
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Tuesday, February 18, 2020 1:07 PM

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Federal judges' association calls emergency meeting after DOJ intervenes in case of Trump ally Roger Stone

WASHINGTON — A national association of federal judges has called an emergency meeting Tuesday to address growing concerns about the intervention of Justice Department officials and President Donald Trump in politically sensitive cases, the group’s president said Monday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/federal-judges-call-meet-after
-doj-s-action-on-stone/ar-BB1068Le?ocid=msedgntp


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Tuesday, February 18, 2020 1:50 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Doooood.

This thread is OVER. "Countdown Clock, Trumps Removal 'Starts'"

How are they going to remove him? Impeachment? BEEN THERE. DONE THAT. AND FAILED.



Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!


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Tuesday, February 18, 2020 1:52 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Why don't you start a new thread more accurately titled: "HOW TRUMP AND THE M$M MADE ME NUTS." ?



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Tuesday, February 18, 2020 2:17 PM

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John Bolton speaks out about his time in the Trump White House and thousands of fmr. DOJ employees say Trump's attorney general William Barr should quit.


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Tuesday, February 18, 2020 2:27 PM

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Fuck Bolton and Fuck the corrupt to the core DOJ.

Time to drain the swamp, bitches.

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Friday, February 28, 2020 2:54 PM

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Friday, February 28, 2020 9:05 PM

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I personally want Bernie to be the nominee.

It will be hilarious watching Trump get 400 in the Electoral College.

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Monday, March 2, 2020 12:00 PM

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Monday, March 2, 2020 12:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I personally want Bernie to be the nominee.

It will be hilarious watching Trump get 400 in the Electoral College.

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Monday, March 2, 2020 9:51 PM

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Putin has more in common with Bernie than anybody who's been in politics in the last 4 decades. So there's that.

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Tuesday, March 3, 2020 10:30 AM

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Thursday, March 5, 2020 7:01 AM

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Thursday, March 5, 2020 8:45 AM

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Just barely...

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Friday, March 6, 2020 3:10 PM

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Friday, March 6, 2020 3:58 PM

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Quote:

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You can probably add Chief Speaking Bull to the list once it's clear that Bernie isn't going to be the nominee or she gets a REALLY good feeling the Super Delegates are going Biden if nobody is a clear winner.

She is such a filthy whore.

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Saturday, March 7, 2020 10:08 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Trump Is Counting on the Supreme Court to Save Him

The president’s remarkable lawsuit against his own accountants and bankers can succeed only if the conservative majority intervenes on his behalf. Plainly, there is something in Trump’s tax documents that Trump dreads letting the world see.

The issues raised by impeachment in early 2020 come roaring back for the election finale. Trump’s evident corruption, the questions over his thralldom to the Putin regime in Russia, the refusal of the Republican Party to uphold law when inconvenient to Trump—you thought we’d talked them to death during impeachment? There is so much more to come.

Sometime before June 29, 2020, the U.S. Supreme Court will either plunge the United States into the severest constitutional crisis of the Trump years—or save Americans from that crisis.

Three different committees of Congress, as well as New York State prosecutors, have issued subpoenas to President Donald Trump’s accountants and bankers for his tax and business records. Trump has sued to stop the accountants and bankers from complying. He has lost twice at the district-court level and twice at the appeals-court level. Now he is looking to the conservative majority on the Supreme Court to rescue him.

On March 31, the court will hear oral arguments in the cases of Trump v. Mazars and Trump v. Deutsche Bank. The decision will be rendered sometime between then and the court’s summer break.

Although Trump is suing his accountants and his bankers as a private citizen, his case has been joined by the Department of Justice. Solicitor General Noel Francisco has signed an amicus brief on behalf of the United States. It is an astonishing document. It invites the Supreme Court to junk two centuries of precedent—and to substitute an entirely new system of judicial review of congressional subpoenas that involve a president:
Quote:

A legislative subpoena must therefore satisfy heightened requirements when it seeks information from the President. At the threshold, the full chamber should unequivocally authorize a subpoena against the President. Moreover, the legislative purpose should be set forth with specificity. Courts should not presume that the purpose is legitimate, but instead should scrutinize it with care. And as with information protected by executive privilege, information sought from the President should be demonstrably critical to the legislative purpose. A congressional committee cannot evade these heightened requirements merely by directing the subpoena to third-party custodians, for such agents generally assume the rights and privileges of their principal, as this Court has recognized in analogous cases.
All the requirements in that above paragraph were devised for purposes of this litigation. None of them has ever been enforced—none of them has ever been imagined—in the previous 230 years of skirmishing between Congresses and presidents. Every must and should and cannot was invented in this very brief, for the immediate legal purposes of this president in this dilemma. The solicitor general might as well have said that subpoenas must be delivered by a sled pulled by flying reindeer, for all the connection between these demands and the previous constitutional history of the United States.

As the House of Representatives noted in the brief it filed, previous Congresses have obtained the bank records of Presidents Andrew Johnson and Jimmy Carter, and the tax records of President Richard Nixon. They have read the diaries of President Ronald Reagan and the law-firm billing records of first lady Hillary Clinton.

It’s never before been the law that a subpoena of the president must be authorized by “the full chamber,” much less that this authorization be “unequivocal”—whatever that means.

It’s never before been the law that the president’s privileges—whatever they are—also extend to his private business agents.

It’s never before been the law that the courts set themselves over Congress as scrutinizers of its subpoenas, approving or disapproving. Until now, instead, courts have always extended the utmost deference to congressional investigations, from the first Washington administration onward.

The Trump administration cannot cite case law for any of its new demands.

More at www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/mazars-lawsuit/607540/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, March 7, 2020 10:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:

Trump Is Counting on the Supreme Court to Save Him

The president’s remarkable lawsuit against his own accountants and bankers can succeed only if the conservative majority intervenes on his behalf. Plainly, there is something in Trump’s tax documents that Trump dreads letting the world see.




Fraud, wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain. That and the IRS will have its pound of flesh.

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Saturday, March 7, 2020 11:04 AM

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Trump fires acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney


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Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:57 AM

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Dr. Redlener, the director of the National Center for Disaster Preparedness, tells Lawrence O’Donnell that President Trump is leading the country in the wrong direction causing a "complete active melting down of America's health and hospital system."


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Saturday, March 28, 2020 11:26 AM

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Trump!!! You're killing people...

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As the number of coronavirus cases continues to surge across America, Trump took time at his briefing and on Twitter to go after the governors of Michigan and Washington as dire reports pour out of American hospitals.


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Saturday, March 28, 2020 1:32 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Was this the "Tick Tock to 47% Approval" thread?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_app
roval-6179.html



You read that right. 47.3% approval, vs. 49.3% disapproval. The best looking number's he's seen in either category since he was elected, and continuing to trend up.

Even the "experts" have said that Trump is a lock at 47%.

I don't think it's going to stay that high, but after all of this Trump should find a new floor, probably no lower than 46% unless all of this nonsense somehow drags on through the whole summer.


Trump wins in November easily if he is still at 45%.

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Wednesday, April 1, 2020 10:57 AM

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