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Boeing 737 Max
Monday, December 23, 2019 7:01 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Friday, January 10, 2020 11:00 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: "This Plane Was Designed By Clowns, Who Are Supervised By Monkeys [FAA]" - Shocking Boeing Emails Reveal Contempt For Management, FAA ...According to more than 100 pages of internal company communications (which were apparently withheld from the FAA during the certification process for the jet) Boeing employees could be heard mocking federal rules, openly discussing their deception of regulators, and joking about the MAX's potential flaws. The most shocking messages were sent by Boeing pilots and other employees who can be seen discussing software issues and problems with the flight simulator software for the MAX, which is particularly disturbing since it was issues with the plane's MCAS software that were found to have contributed to two avoidable crashes and the brutal deaths of 346 people In one message, one Boeing employee openly admits to deceiving the FAA on behalf of the company. "I still haven’t been forgiven by God for the covering up I did last year," one of the employees said in messages from 2018, apparently in reference to interactions with the Federal Aviation Administration. In another, a group of Boeing test pilots agreed that they wouldn't want their families flying with pilots trained on the new Boeing 737 MAX 8 flight simulator. "Would you put your family on a Max simulator trained aircraft? I wouldn’t," one employee said to a colleague in another exchange from 2018, before the first crash. "No," the colleague responded. As the New York Times explains, the release of these communications, both emails and instant messages, is "the latest embarrassing episode for Boeing in a crisis that has cost the company billions of dollars and wreaked havoc on the aviation industry across the globe." It should go without saying that these messages "threaten to complicate Boeing's relationship with the FAA" at a time when it's still unclear when the MAX might be cleared to fly again. Yet, as we mentioned above, this is only the latest and perhaps most jarring of a string of revelations citing internal documents and communications. Forget "regulatory capture" - a term that's often used to criticize the revolving-door nature of Wall Street compliance officials and the regulatory agencies supposed to keep their firms in line - this is regulatory irrelevance.
Sunday, January 12, 2020 2:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The grunts usually know what's going on ... Quote: "This Plane Was Designed By Clowns, Who Are Supervised By Monkeys [FAA]" - Shocking Boeing Emails Reveal Contempt For Management, FAA ...According to more than 100 pages of internal company communications (which were apparently withheld from the FAA during the certification process for the jet) Boeing employees could be heard mocking federal rules, openly discussing their deception of regulators, and joking about the MAX's potential flaws. The most shocking messages were sent by Boeing pilots and other employees who can be seen discussing software issues and problems with the flight simulator software for the MAX, which is particularly disturbing since it was issues with the plane's MCAS software that were found to have contributed to two avoidable crashes and the brutal deaths of 346 people In one message, one Boeing employee openly admits to deceiving the FAA on behalf of the company. "I still haven’t been forgiven by God for the covering up I did last year," one of the employees said in messages from 2018, apparently in reference to interactions with the Federal Aviation Administration. In another, a group of Boeing test pilots agreed that they wouldn't want their families flying with pilots trained on the new Boeing 737 MAX 8 flight simulator. "Would you put your family on a Max simulator trained aircraft? I wouldn’t," one employee said to a colleague in another exchange from 2018, before the first crash. "No," the colleague responded. As the New York Times explains, the release of these communications, both emails and instant messages, is "the latest embarrassing episode for Boeing in a crisis that has cost the company billions of dollars and wreaked havoc on the aviation industry across the globe." It should go without saying that these messages "threaten to complicate Boeing's relationship with the FAA" at a time when it's still unclear when the MAX might be cleared to fly again. Yet, as we mentioned above, this is only the latest and perhaps most jarring of a string of revelations citing internal documents and communications. Forget "regulatory capture" - a term that's often used to criticize the revolving-door nature of Wall Street compliance officials and the regulatory agencies supposed to keep their firms in line - this is regulatory irrelevance. MORE AT https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/plane-was-designed-clowns-shocking-boeing-emails-reveal-contempt-management-faa
Monday, January 13, 2020 6:54 PM
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Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Now Execs are leaving before they get sent to prison.
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Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: How many got fired at Boeing?
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Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: Boeing engineers still blame cheap Indian Hindu software from the H-1B visa Street Shitters?
Thursday, March 17, 2022 8:44 AM
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Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Jeez. What weasels.
Monday, March 21, 2022 9:26 AM
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Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: Boeing 737 Crashes In China With 132 People Onboard https://www.baystreet.ca/articles/stockstowatch/75684/Boeing-737-Crashes-In-China-With-132-People-Onboard China Eastern Airlines Boeing 737 crash: Flight MU5735 crash - Boeing 737 model accident timeline https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/tori-60821189
Monday, March 21, 2022 11:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: Boeing 737 Crashes In China With 132 People Onboard https://www.baystreet.ca/articles/stockstowatch/75684/Boeing-737-Crashes-In-China-With-132-People-Onboard China Eastern Airlines Boeing 737 crash: Flight MU5735 crash - Boeing 737 model accident timeline https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/tori-60821189 The crash was a Boeing 737-800, not a 737 MAX. https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1505863117343014916 The industry keeps track of "hull-losses", which sounds so much better than crashes/explosions/fires/midair collisions/being hit by antiaircraft missiles/suicidal-pilot-kills-self-and-passengers/whatevers for the 737. Hull-losses: 225 4796 fatalities https://aviation-safety.net/database/types/Boeing-737-series/index This latest "hull-loss" is already in database: https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20220321-0
Thursday, March 24, 2022 10:40 PM
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Friday, March 25, 2022 12:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Why was the trial in Fort Worth?
Sunday, January 7, 2024 3:16 PM
Quote: FAA grounds more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s after section of Alaska Airlines plane blows out The Federal Aviation Administration on Saturday ordered a temporary grounding of dozens of Boeing 737 Max 9 aircraft for inspections, a day after a piece of the aircraft blew out in the middle of an Alaska Airlines flight.... The section of the fuselage missing appeared to correspond to an exit not used by Alaska Airlines, or other carriers that don't have high-density seating configurations, and was plugged.... The incident was described as "an explosive decompression at the window exit," according to Sara Nelson, president of the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA... The Boeing 737 Max 9 is a larger version of Boeing's best-selling jetliner, the 737 Max 8. ... The Boeing 737 Max 9 has an emergency exit door cut behind the wings for use in dense seating cabin configurations, like those used by budget airlines, according to Flightradar24. "The doors are not activated on Alaska Airlines aircraft and are permanently 'plugged,'" Flightradar24 said. Boeing didn't comment beyond its statement when asked about the sealed emergency exit door. Spirit AeroSystems , which makes the fuselages for the 737 Max, confirmed to CNBC that it installed the plugged door on the aircraft... Late last year, Boeing urged airlines to inspect aircraft for a "possible" loose bolt in the rudder control system, the latest in a series of manufacturing flaws on Boeing jets
Quote: The new Boeing 737 Max 9 involved in the incident was delivered to Alaska Airlines in late October and certified in early November, according to FAA data. It had been in service for just eight weeks. The Max is Boeing’s newest version of the 737 and went into service in May 2017.
Sunday, January 7, 2024 3:53 PM
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Monday, January 15, 2024 11:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quality control ain't what it used to be!
Monday, January 15, 2024 2:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quality control ain't what it used to be! SECOND: You handle that by inspecting the product while the subcontractor makes it. If you wait until the product is in its final form before inspecting, you will never get better than whatever the lackadaisical subcontractor feels is good enough, even if it is no good at all.
Tuesday, January 16, 2024 9:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: No kidding! But the problem is, when you're assembling a plane in Indonesia, from parts made in a bunch of small sub-sub contractors in India, Vietnam, Philippines, and Bangladesh ... you gonna send 400 inspectors to all those facilities?
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