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The big question for the year 2020 is simple: can America get its mind right?
Tuesday, December 31, 2019 1:24 PM
SIGNYM
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Quote:The Meta The big question for the year 2020 is simple: can America get its mind right? If the answer is no, we may not have much chance of continuing as a peaceful,
Quote:functioning country. The era of the long emergency, as I call it, is of a piece with Strauss and Howe’s figurative winter in their Fourth Turning view of history playing out in generational cycles analogous to seasons of the year. Whatever you call it, the current disposition of things has had a harsh effect on our collective psychology. It has made an unusually large cohort of Americans functionally insane, believing in demons, hobgoblins, and phantoms, subscribing to theories that, in previous eras, children would laugh at, while contesting obvious realities and provoking grave political hazard. The madness is distributed over many realms of American life, with the common denominator of a thinking class fallen into disordered thinking. The disorder is led by the information media and higher education with their crypto-Gnostic agendas for transforming human nature to heal the world (in theory). It includes a grab-bag of delusions and deliberate mind-fucks ranging from the morbid obsession with Russian interference in our affairs, to the crusade against free speech on campus, to the worship of sexual perversity (e.g. the Transsexual Reading Hour), to the campaigns against whiteness and maleness, to the incursions of woke-ness in the corporate workplace, to the cynical machinations of economists, bankers, and politicians in manipulating financial appearances, to the effort to divorce reality from truth as a general proposition.
Quote: These diseases of mind and culture are synergized by an aroused political ethos that says the ends justify the means,
Quote:so that bad faith and knowing dishonesty become the main tools of political endeavor. Hence, a venerable institution such as The New York Times can turn from its mission of strictly pursuing news and be enlisted as the public relations service for rogue government agencies seeking to overthrow a president under false pretenses. The overall effect is of a march into a new totalitarianism, garnished with epic mendacity and malevolence. Since when in the USA was it okay for political “radicals” to team up with government surveillance jocks to persecute their political enemies?
Quote: This naturally leads to the question: what drove the American thinking class insane? I maintain that it comes from the massive anxiety generated by the long emergency we’ve entered — the free-floating fear that we’ve run out the clock on our current way of life, that the systems we depend on for our high standard of living have entered the failure zone; specifically, the fears over our energy supply, dwindling natural resources, broken resource supply lines, runaway debt, population overshoot, the collapsing middle-class, the closing of horizons and prospects for young people, the stolen autonomy of people crushed by out-of-scale organizations (government, WalMart, ConAgra), the corrosion of relations between men and women (and of family life especially), the frequent mass murders in schools, churches, and public places, the destruction of ecosystems and species, the uncertainty about climate change, and the pervasive, entropic ugliness of the suburban human habitat that drives so much social dysfunction. You get it? There’s a lot to worry about, much of it quite existential. The more strenuously we fail to confront and engage with these problems, the crazier we get.
Quote: Much of the “social justice” discontent arises from the obvious and grotesque income inequality of our time accompanied by the loss of meaningful work and the social roles that go with that. But quite a bit of extra tension comes from the shame and disappointment over the failure of the long civil rights campaign to correct the racial inequalities in American life — everything from attempts at school integration to affirmative action (by any name) to “multiculturalism” to the latest innovations in “diversity and inclusion.” In short, too many black Americans are still failing to thrive in this land despite fifty years of expensive government programs and educational experiments galore, and there are few explanations left to account for that failure, which includes black-led cities in ruin and high rates of black violent crime. This quandary harrows the thinking class and drives them ever deeper into their crypto-Gnostic fantasies about changing human nature to heal the world. The net result is that race relations are worse and more fraught than they were in 1950. And the outcome is so embarrassing that the thinking class avoids facing it at all costs (despite bad faith calls for “an honest conversation about race” that is, in actuality, unwelcome).
Quote: Our country is caught in a matrix of self-destructive rackets and the common denominator is the immersive dishonesty we have given ourselves permission to practice. In ethics and daily conduct, we’re nothing like the country that came out of World War Two. Our national maxim these days is anything goes and nothing matters. That’s a poor platform for navigating through life on earth. After a decades-long clamor for “hope and change,” that’s one big thing we don’t talk about changing, and apparently have no hope for changing. America has got to get its mind right about lying to itself. This is a forecast, after all, and I’m going to try to be as concise as possible on the particulars, which we’ll now turn to. Forecasts, you understand, are like jazz, an improvisational connecting of dots at a certain moment in time… or throwing spaghetti at the wall to see if anything sticks. Election 2020 There’s an excellent chance that the Democratic Party will be in such disarray by summertime, that it may break apart into a radical-Wokester faction and a rump “moderate” faction. That would make the election somewhat like the 1860 contest on the eve of the first Civil War. The current crop of leading candidates — Biden, Sanders, Warren, Buttigieg — all look to me like horses that ain’t gonna finish. Michael Bloomberg could end up leader of the rump moderates, propelled by his inexhaustible bank account, but I doubt his appeal to the racial minorities and the new millennial voters Democrats depend on. I’m not sure he’s left with much else. I’m convinced that Joe Biden is in still in the contest solely to avoid investigation. He’s already obviously not wholly sound of mind, and he’s not even in the White House yet. Think of how Bob Mueller looked testifying in congress six months ago, and imagine Uncle Joe in the White House Situation Room. The record of grift from Uncle Joe’s Veep days is vibrantly nauseating, and embarrassingly on-the-record in video and in bank statements. Similarly, for Elizabeth Warren: there are too many video recordings of her lying about herself. She’d never overcome an opponent’s political ad campaign replaying them daily. I’m sorry, but despite the crypto-Gnostic wish by many Thinking Class-niks to make the marginal seem normal, I doubt the voters want to see Mayor Pete in the White House with a “First Husband.”
Quote: Bernie Sanders has a shot of leading a radical faction this time — if he can overcome the hacks in the DNC — and only a dim shot at winning the general election. This overview leaves a pretty big crack in the door for Hillary Clinton to ride into a hung convention in Milwaukee on a paper mache white horse and try to “rescue” the party. I believe she’d be laughed out of the hall, making for a humiliating final scene in her accursed career. One other possibility is that a figure currently off the game-board somehow flies in to lead the Democratic Party, but it’s impossible to state who that black swan character might be. That could also be something like a “smoke-filled room” scenario of a nominating convention, like the one that picked Warren Harding a hundred years before: the party poohbahs get together and just ram their decision down the delegates throats. I’d assign a 20 percent chance to that outcome. Whatever you think of his style, manner, and policies, Donald Trump has one outstanding quality: resilience. As David Collum has remarked, Mr. Trump is anti-fragile (in the Nassim Taleb sense). The more he is antagonized, the stronger he seems to get. His weak spot is his ownership of the economy and the financial markets that are supposed to serve it. His destiny, which I described in blogs three years ago, is to be the guy left holding the bag when things economic start cracking up
Quote: — a situation I’ll describe in its own category below. The odds are not so good that the status quo of an ever-rising stock market will hold up until next November. And if it goes south in a hard way, that will certainly work against his reelection. It could also be the one thing that would permit the Democratic Party to stay glued together — but implies that a shake-up in markets and banks would have to happen by early summer, before the conventions. Meanwhile, the attempts at impeachment have a peevish Lilliputian flavor. Keeping it up —bringing a threatened second or third bill of impeachment with extra charges — will only reinforce Mr. Trump’s anti-fragility. Second to the economic issues is the question whether the firm of Barr & Durham will manage to pin some criminal responsibility on the people who undertook the RussiaGate coup against Mr. Trump — a ghastly mis-use of government power now celebrated by Democrats, who, you might recall, used to be against police states.
Quote: A series of perp walks by the likes of Brennan, Comey, Clapper, and others could finally burst the bubble of credulity that the Mueller face-plant and the damning Horowitz report failed to achieve among the True Believers of Rachel Maddow.
Quote:Of course, this matter has even greater significance for correcting the meta-problem of America chronically lying to itself. RussiaGate and its spinoffs was such a gargantuan edifice of malicious dishonesty that it must be deconstructed in the courts, or the mental health of the nation may not recover. It is the key to ending the regime of anything goes and nothing matters. Bottom line: if the markets or the value of the dollar don’t crash, Mr. Trump will be reelected. However, I expect that his rivals will resort to Lawfare tactics to tie up the election process in a paralyzing tangle of litigation that would impede or deny a peaceful resolution of the outcome. These tactics may provoke the president to declare some extraordinary measures to overcome this climactic act of “Resistance” — perhaps a period of martial law while the results are re-tabulated. Yes, it could get that extreme. Economy and Its Accessories The shale oil “miracle” was a financial stunt using debt to provide the illusion that the nation’s energy supply was safe and assured long-term. It’s been an impressive stunt, for sure, with production nearing 13 million barrels-a-day now, but it is foundering on its Ponzi business model — the producers just can’t make money at it, and they’ve spent ten years proving that it’s a foolish play for investors.
Quote: The result will be dwindling investment in an endeavor that requires constant re-investment. Which means that 2020 is the year that shale oil de-miracle-izes and production falls. The bankruptcies have only just begun.
Quote: The economy is really just a function of energy inputs, and these must be inputs that make economic sense — that don’t cost more than whatever they return. All our banking and finance arrangements depend on that. If energy inputs decline, or the cost in energy exceeds the value of net energy you get, then debts of every kind can no longer be repaid and the whole system implodes. From there the question is whether collapse is slow or fast. My guess is that it may start slowly and then accelerate rapidly to critical — and the process has already begun. As a result of this energy dynamic, we’re seeing a generalized contraction in economic activity and growth worldwide, expressed in standards of living that will fall going forward.
Quote:The effects in America are already obvious and discouraging: the struggling middle-class, people living paycheck-to-paycheck, people unable to buy cars or pay to fix them. The hope was that America might reindustrialize (some version of MAGA) while the “emerging” economies kept producing stuff as the “engines” of the global economy: China, India, Korea, Brazil, Mexico and others. These places saw standards of living rise dramatically the past thirty years. Reversing that trend will be a trauma. These emerging economies are topping off and heading down because of the same basic energy dynamics which affect the whole world: running out of affordable energy, oil especially. The likely result will be political instability within China, and the rest — already manifest — and some of that disorder may be projected outward at economic rivals.
Quote: Europe has experienced plenty of blowback from its contracting standard-of-living as expressed in the Yellow Vest disruptions in France, the Brexit nervous breakdown, the gathering power of nationalist political movements in many nations, and the ongoing refugee crisis (largely economic refugees from failing third world places). The European banks, led by the sickest of them all, Deutsche Bank, suffer from a crushing burden of bad derivative obligations that are liable to sink them in 2020, and then there will be a scramble for survival in Euroland, with the recent refugees caught in the middle. I think we will see the first attempts to expel them as financial chaos spreads, violence erupts, and nationalism rises.
Quote:The “solution” to the quandary of contraction since 2008 has been for central banks to “create” mountains of fresh “money” to provide the illusion that debts can be repaid (and fresh loans generated) when reality clearly refutes that. All that money “printing” has only deformed banking relations and the behavior of markets — the most obvious symptoms being asset inflation (stocks, bonds, real estate), the quashing of price discovery (the chief function of markets), and zero interest rates (which makes the operations of banking insane). The bankers will continue to do “whatever it takes” to try to keep the game going, but they’ve run out of actual mojo to get it done. Interest rates can barely go any lower. The amount of money “printing” needed to sustain the illusion of a functioning, rational system grows ever larger. In the six weeks just before-and-after Christmas, the Federal Reserve is expected to pump $500 billion into the banks to stabilize asset prices. How long can they keep doing that? Eventually, either asset prices fall (perhaps crash), or the increasingly desperate measures needed to prop them up will degrade the value of money itself. The catch is, that might not happen everywhere at once. For instance, China’s banking system, like Europe’s, is ripe for a convulsion, which would send money fleeing for perceived safety (while it can) into America’s markets, temporarily pumping up the Dow, the S & P, and US Treasury bonds even while other big nations crash. But US banks have the same disease and those birds of disorder will eventually roost here, too.
Quote: Also, the method of distributing fresh central bank money-from-thin-air will likely change going forward. The public will surely revolt at another bankster bailout. Instead, the folks-in-charge will turn to “Peoples’ QE,” otherwise known as “helicopter money” (as in dropping cash from choppers), or Modern Monetary Theory (MMT — print money until the cows come home), featuring “Guaranteed Basic Income.” The tensions in the contraction trap we’re in are such that disequilibrium in the debt markets can only play out in a hard default or a softer attempt to inflate currencies. Inflation could keep stock markets afloat and allow continued debt repayment (“servicing”) in currencies of declining value — a process that is never really manageable in history, always gets out-of-hand, and leads quickly to political mayhem. Remember, there are two ways of going broke: having no money, and having plenty of money that is worthless.
Tuesday, December 31, 2019 4:54 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:The Meta The big question for the year 2020 is simple: can America get its mind right? If the answer is no, we may not have much chance of continuing as a peaceful, functioning country. The era of the long emergency, as I call it, is of a piece with Strauss and Howe’s figurative winter in their Fourth Turning view of history playing out in generational cycles analogous to seasons of the year. Whatever you call it, the current disposition of things has had a harsh effect on our collective psychology. It has made an unusually large cohort of Americans functionally insane, believing in demons, hobgoblins, and phantoms, subscribing to theories that, in previous eras, children would laugh at, while contesting obvious realities and provoking grave political hazard.
Quote:The madness is distributed over many realms of American life, with the common denominator of a thinking class fallen into disordered thinking. The disorder is led by the information media and higher education with their crypto-Gnostic agendas for transforming human nature to heal the world (in theory). It includes a grab-bag of delusions and deliberate mind-fucks ranging from the morbid obsession with Russian interference in our affairs, to the crusade against free speech on campus, to the worship of sexual perversity (e.g. the Transsexual Reading Hour), to the campaigns against whiteness and maleness, to the incursions of woke-ness in the corporate workplace, to the cynical machinations of economists, bankers, and politicians in manipulating financial appearances, to the effort to divorce reality from truth as a general proposition.
Quote:Amen. The transnationals have managed to manipulate us into a state where we are chasing after ever-smaller ever-more fragmented identity-victimhood tribes (Does being a black female bisexual give me more brownie points than a white trans female?) Instead of focusing in what unites us, we're fighting over some theoretical advantage that is supposed to come to us as "victims". Which, btw, will never come, because we're too disunited to make our common situation better.
Quote: Hence, WISHY can't seem to see that being willing to kill 7 billion people would make her even worse than Stalin, and REAVERBOT thinks that punching a "Nazi" in offense is morally acceptable, and not just plain assault and battery.
Quote:so that bad faith and knowing dishonesty become the main tools of political endeavor. Hence, a venerable institution such as The New York Times can turn from its mission of strictly pursuing news and be enlisted as the public relations service for rogue government agencies ... Since when in the USA was it okay for political “radicals” to team up with government surveillance jocks to persecute their political enemies?
Quote:Since people have totally lost their moral bearings and can't seem to apply their outrage and their own rules to ... themselves.
Quote: This naturally leads to the question: what drove the American thinking class insane?
Quote:I maintain that it comes from the massive anxiety generated by the long emergency we’ve entered — the free-floating fear that we’ve run out the clock on our current way of life, that the systems we depend on for our high standard of living have entered the failure zone; specifically, the fears over our energy supply, dwindling natural resources, broken resource supply lines, runaway debt, population overshoot, the collapsing middle-class, the closing of horizons and prospects for young people, the stolen autonomy of people crushed by out-of-scale organizations (government, WalMart, ConAgra), the corrosion of relations between men and women (and of family life especially), the frequent mass murders in schools, churches, and public places, the destruction of ecosystems and species, the uncertainty about climate change, and the pervasive, entropic ugliness of the suburban human habitat that drives so much social dysfunction. You get it? There’s a lot to worry about, much of it quite existential. The more strenuously we fail to confront and engage with these problems, the crazier we get.
Quote:Agreed. Fear combined with denial makes an ugly mix.
Quote: Much of the “social justice” discontent arises from the obvious and grotesque income inequality of our time accompanied by the loss of meaningful work and the social roles that go with that. But quite a bit of extra tension comes from the shame and disappointment over the failure of the long civil rights campaign ... and there are few explanations left to account for that failure ... This quandary harrows the thinking class and drives them ever deeper into their crypto-Gnostic fantasies about changing human nature
Quote: to heal the world. The net result is that race relations are worse and more fraught than they were in 1950. And the outcome is so embarrassing that the thinking class avoids facing it at all costs (despite bad faith calls for “an honest conversation about race” that is, in actuality, unwelcome).
Quote:But the ultimate cause of this is the fact that in an economy managed by the elites FOR the elites, scarcity is the name of the game. If there were enough good jobs for everyone who wanted to work, every person of every race, sex and orientation would be able to fruitfully ensure their own future and contribute productively to society. This environment of diminished expectations is leading us to fight with each other over what little we have, like people in a lifeboat fighting over water.
Quote: Our country is caught in a matrix of self-destructive rackets and the common denominator is the immersive dishonesty we have given ourselves permission to practice. In ethics and daily conduct, we’re nothing like the country that came out of World War Two. Our national maxim these days is anything goes and nothing matters. ... America has got to get its mind right about lying to itself. This is a forecast, after all, and I’m going to try to be as concise as possible on the particulars, which we’ll now turn to. Forecasts, you understand, are like jazz, an improvisational connecting of dots at a certain moment in time… or throwing spaghetti at the wall to see if anything sticks. Election 2020 There’s an excellent chance that the Democratic Party will be in such disarray by summertime, that it may break apart into a radical-Wokester faction and a rump “moderate” faction. ... I’m convinced that Joe Biden is in still in the contest solely to avoid investigation. ... for Elizabeth Warren: there are too many video recordings of her lying about herself. ... I doubt the voters want to see Mayor Pete in the White House with a “First Husband.”
Quote:Mayor Pete has the backing of the deep state. Don't count him out.
Quote: Bernie Sanders has a shot of leading a radical faction this time — if he can overcome the hacks in the DNC ... This overview leaves a pretty big crack in the door for Hillary Clinton to ride into a hung convention in Milwaukee on a paper mache white horse and try to “rescue” the party. I believe she’d be laughed out of the hall, making for a humiliating final scene in her accursed career. One other possibility is that a figure currently off the game-board somehow flies in to lead the Democratic Party, but it’s impossible to state who that black swan character might be. That could also be something like a “smoke-filled room” scenario of a nominating convention, like the one that picked Warren Harding a hundred years before: the party poohbahs get together and just ram their decision down the delegates throats. I’d assign a 20 percent chance to that outcome.
Quote:Whatever you think of his style, manner, and policies, Donald Trump has one outstanding quality: resilience. As David Collum has remarked, Mr. Trump is anti-fragile (in the Nassim Taleb sense). The more he is antagonized, the stronger he seems to get. His weak spot is his ownership of the economy and the financial markets that are supposed to serve it. His destiny, which I described in blogs three years ago, is to be the guy left holding the bag when things economic start cracking up
Quote:I agree. Trump has good intentions, but even in the arena that is his purview: foreign and military policy - he hasn't been able to get past the CYA/Stat Dept/FIB deep state and the neocons/warhawks in Congress, and he simply doesn't have the power to re-invigorate manufacturing and repair our infrastructure, both essential for a sound economy
Quote: — a situation I’ll describe in its own category below. The odds are not so good that the status quo of an ever-rising stock market will hold up until next November. And if it goes south in a hard way, that will certainly work against his reelection. It could also be the one thing that would permit the Democratic Party to stay glued together — but implies that a shake-up in markets and banks would have to happen by early summer, before the conventions.
Quote: Meanwhile, the attempts at impeachment have a peevish Lilliputian flavor. ... Second to the economic issues is the question whether the firm of Barr & Durham will manage to pin some criminal responsibility on the people who undertook the RussiaGate coup against Mr. Trump — a ghastly mis-use of government power now celebrated by Democrats, who, you might recall, used to be against police states. A series of perp walks by the likes of Brennan, Comey, Clapper, and others could finally burst the bubble of credulity that the Mueller face-plant and the damning Horowitz report failed to achieve among the True Believers of Rachel Maddow.
Quote: NOTHING will burst that bubble. What will happen is a slow erosion of narrative, and that will take time. It will take years - literally, years (five more, at least) - before believers lose their faith, and the truest of the true believers never will.
Quote:Of course, this matter has even greater significance for correcting the meta-problem of America chronically lying to itself. RussiaGate and its spinoffs was such a gargantuan edifice of malicious dishonesty that it must be deconstructed in the courts, or the mental health of the nation may not recover. It is the key to ending the regime of anything goes and nothing matters. Bottom line: if the markets or the value of the dollar don’t crash, Mr. Trump will be reelected. However, I expect that his rivals will resort to Lawfare tactics to tie up the election process in a paralyzing tangle of litigation that would impede or deny a peaceful resolution of the outcome.
Quote: These tactics may provoke the president to declare some extraordinary measures to overcome this climactic act of “Resistance” — perhaps a period of martial law while the results are re-tabulated. Yes, it could get that extreme. Economy and Its Accessories The shale oil “miracle” was a financial stunt using debt to provide the illusion that the nation’s energy supply was safe and assured long-term. It’s been an impressive stunt, for sure, with production nearing 13 million barrels-a-day now, but it is foundering on its Ponzi business model — the producers just can’t make money at it, and they’ve spent ten years proving that it’s a foolish play for investors.
Quote: "We lose a litle bit on every well, but we make up for it in volume!"
Quote: I think about five years ago I did some research into fracking and nat gas/shale oil, and with the exception of a few fields the yield drops off pretty drastically -loses about 90% in five years - and must constantly be "restimulated". SECOND can probably provide better background on this.
Quote: I disagree. This isn't a "worldwide" phenomenon, but a western one. I keep hearing that the Saudi oilfields are played out, North Sea oil is dwindling, and American fracking is meeting its financial end, but there are still near-pristine oil and gas fields out there which have been protected (in a backwards kind of way) from exploitation by sanctions and war, such as Iraq, Iran, Russia, and Venezuela. There is also a giant recently-discovered gas field under the Eastern Mediterranean. Be prepared for the west (ie USA, NATO) fighting /destabiizing to try and gain control of these energy resources.
Quote:Nah ...
Quote:Quite possibly true
Quote:Jim Willie in his talks about "de-dollarization" and described a situation in which the realm of the dollar becomes smaller and smaller, even as it's value goes up and up. At some point, it will become useless for international trade. ("it will go up and up, and then disappear!")
Tuesday, December 31, 2019 7:07 PM
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JEWELSTAITEFAN
Thursday, January 2, 2020 6:28 PM
Friday, January 3, 2020 3:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: In order to resolve the disconnect which jumps iout whenever I read some of your posts, please consider inclusion of a disclaimer that you are from California, which is why you are not part of the real world.
Quote:I do realize CA is the land of great business in signs, as long as they say Out of Business, Space for Rent, Space for Lease, Space for Sale. etc. But in my lifetime I cannot recall hearing such a deluge of ads from employers begging for people to come work for them. Work for us because we are employee owned. We give $3,000 signing bonuses. WE give $5,000 signing bonuses. We are more centrally located. All these endless lists of reasons why everybody should come work for these companies.
Quote: Meanwhile, kids (in their 20s and 30s) who claim they are ready to work are all stoned, or can't be bothered to actually show up for work for 5 consecutive days, or cant be bothered to put away their gamephone while on the workroom floor.
Quote:I cannot imagine that anybody who does not actually want to work isn't employed.
Friday, January 3, 2020 9:08 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Friday, January 3, 2020 9:18 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Yup. The job market is "better", but nowhere near what is being claimed. I was getting jobs thrown at me for $11 to $15 an hour when I was 19 years old, and that was through a temp agency. Those office type temp agencies don't even exist anymore. At 40, I'll probably end up finding a part time job making somewhere in the same ballpark. With 20 years of inflation, that number should be $22 to $30 an hour to break even. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saturday, January 4, 2020 4:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: I'm not sure where unemployment comes into the picture in any of my posts ... but ... I did a quick lookup. Overall, California unemployment tracks national unemployment. But unemployment isn't the whole picture, there's also the national labor force participation rate. (I don't believe there are figures for California.) In 1999 it was ~67%, slowly dropping to 66% in 2008, and then it hit the skids cratering to ~62.5% from where it hasn't significantly recovered. https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-labor-force-participation-rate.htm Despite the lower unemployment rate, the marvel of all the economist talking-heads is that wages haven't gone up. In fact, for most people, inflation-adjusted wages haven't gone up since the 70's. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/08/07/for-most-us-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/ Now, as we all know - or we should - the CPI calculations are a load of crap, because they don't use a constant basket of goods, they use some fudged 'equivalent' - the switcheroo having been instituted in 1987 under dubya. https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/1987/01/art1full.pdf So REAL inflation in probably higher, and that means people's REAL wages have been going down. And that's despite a soaring GDP, which has (in inflation-adjusted dollars) gone up from ~ $5000 in 1970 to ~ $15,000 in 2019. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDPC1/ Finally, a year or so ago I tried to find figures for the percent of people in full-time jobs, part-time jobs, temp jobs and gig work, and failed. But of the waiters I talk with (of both sexes), nearly all have at least two part-time sans-benefits jobs, and some are doing gig work on the side as well like GrubHub and Lyft. And that's despite the fact that, unlike federal minimum wage, the California minimum wage applies to food service workers and is $11 for small (<25 employees) businesses. If businesses are serious about needing workers they need to pay an adequate salary, provide full-time work with benefits, and show that there'll be some stability in employment. Yanno, adjust to the pressures of the 'free-market'. If they don't do that, then imo they're just virtue-signalling whining.
Saturday, January 4, 2020 4:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: In order to resolve the disconnect which jumps iout whenever I read some of your posts, please consider inclusion of a disclaimer that you are from California, which is why you are not part of the real world. Why the unnecessary snark? I don't recall ever being snarky with you and I can assure you that California is very much in the real world.
Quote: Quote:I do realize CA is the land of great business in signs, as long as they say Out of Business, Space for Rent, Space for Lease, Space for Sale. etc. But in my lifetime I cannot recall hearing such a deluge of ads from employers begging for people to come work for them. Work for us because we are employee owned. We give $3,000 signing bonuses. WE give $5,000 signing bonuses. We are more centrally located. All these endless lists of reasons why everybody should come work for these companies. Near where you live? 'Cause I sure don't see that happening around here! Whar we have are McJobs. Have you ever considered the possibility that your region may be different from California, especially considering the glut of cheap-labor illegal immigrants around here? Quote: Meanwhile, kids (in their 20s and 30s) who claim they are ready to work are all stoned, or can't be bothered to actually show up for work for 5 consecutive days, or cant be bothered to put away their gamephone while on the workroom floor. You mean, where you live? Or are you now posting about CA? Or everywhere? Quote:I cannot imagine that anybody who does not actually want to work isn't employed. What we have are McJobs. People may be "employed" but they can't actually make a living here because they're working 10-29 hours a week for $11-15/hr in a region where the median home costs something like $700,000. This isn't a problem just in CA, western NY state (NOT NYC) has much the same underemployment problem, and it seems there is a lot of that going on in the Midwest too. Maybe you're trying to extrapolate a national situation from localized experience. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
Saturday, January 4, 2020 4:18 PM
Quote:Does this help? https://www.bls.gov/news.release/laus.t02.htm They don't give the exact figure for Participation Rate, but that figure is Labor Force Divided by Civilian non-institutionalzed Population. Can you calculate what you need, or is that information missing for you?
Sunday, January 5, 2020 9:20 AM
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Sunday, January 12, 2020 12:08 AM
WISHIMAY
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: The big question for the year 2020 is simple: can America get its mind right?
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