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Dr. Fiona Hill
Monday, November 25, 2019 1:08 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:This is a fictional narrative that has been perpetrated and propagated by the Russian security services themselves,” Hill said in her opening statement during a public hearing. Hill testified on Nov. 21 in the impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump.
Monday, November 25, 2019 1:22 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Monday, November 25, 2019 1:24 AM
Monday, November 25, 2019 1:31 AM
Monday, November 25, 2019 1:36 AM
Monday, November 25, 2019 2:18 AM
Quote:"That's actually why as a non-partisan person, and as an expert on Russia and an expert on Vladimir Putin and on the Russian security services, I wanted to come in and serve the country to see if I could help. I heard president Trump say that he wanted to improve relations with Russia. I believe we have to. We can't be in this unending confrontation with Russia. We have to find a way to stabilize our relationship and to professionalize that relationship, as well as to stop them from doing what they did in 2016 and again in 2020. This is really the crux of the issue, that I and others are trying to put across and I think that you've put across very eloquently."
Monday, November 25, 2019 2:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: "Stop spreading the fictional narrative..." That's our job. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Monday, November 25, 2019 2:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Also... "I have a short opening statement". Right out the gates with lie number one. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Monday, November 25, 2019 2:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Lie number two... "Russia interfered in the 2016 elections." Neither Russia nor Ukraine interfered in the 2016 elections. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Monday, November 25, 2019 2:31 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Monday, November 25, 2019 2:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: President Obama on Election Interference: Although, according to the New York Times and CNN, Obama is a Conservative now... so take what he says for what it's worth. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Monday, November 25, 2019 2:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: "stop them from doing what they did in 2016 and again in 2020" Is she referring to the future as if it was the past and already a fait accompli?
Monday, November 25, 2019 3:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Are you kidding me? It was about 10 minutes....you consider that long? SGG Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Also... "I have a short opening statement". Right out the gates with lie number one. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Monday, November 25, 2019 3:34 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Monday, November 25, 2019 8:00 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: My skepticism is nothing personal against her. We've been hearing the same old shit about Russian interference for 3 years straight, yet not a single person has ever explained what that actually means. I know more than a large majority of people do about tech and how it works, yet they speak in bullshit vaguery and meaningless jargon when they're dancing around the topic. (Because they think we're all fucking stupid).
Monday, November 25, 2019 8:41 AM
THG
Monday, November 25, 2019 9:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: "Stop spreading the fictional narrative..." That's our job.
Monday, November 25, 2019 9:35 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by THG: SGG you can't argue with stupid. The others on the thread are still saying no Russian interference in our election. That is stupid on jacks part and Russian trolling on sig and kiki's.
Monday, November 25, 2019 9:52 AM
Monday, November 25, 2019 9:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: My skepticism is nothing personal against her. We've been hearing the same old shit about Russian interference for 3 years straight, yet not a single person has ever explained what that actually means. I know more than a large majority of people do about tech and how it works, yet they speak in bullshit vaguery and meaningless jargon when they're dancing around the topic. (Because they think we're all fucking stupid).Time has explained it: When Russia set out to interfere with the 2016 election, it went all out. Over the course of the election, a wide-ranging group of Russians probed state voter databases for insecurities; hacked the Hillary Clinton campaign, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Democratic National Committee; tried to hack the campaign of Sen. Marco Rubio and the Republican National Committee; released politically damaging information on the internet; spread propaganda on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and Instagram; staged rallies in Florida and Pennsylvania; set up meetings with members of the Trump campaign and its associates; and floated a business proposition for a skyscraper in Moscow to the Trump Organization. The goal, as determined by the U.S. intelligence community and backed up by evidence gathered by Special Counsel Robert Mueller: To damage the Clinton campaign, boost Trump’s chances and sow distrust in American democracy overall. The details of these efforts have come out in drips and drabs since the 2016 election ended, with information revealed by a memo from intelligence agencies, court documents filed by Mueller, testimony from Trump associates in court and before Congress and investigative news reports. There is so much more at https://time.com/5565991/russia-influence-2016-election/ Try www.google.com/search?q=Russian+interference+explained if you want more. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Quote:The FBI alerted states to the threat about two months before the 2016 election when hackers accessed voter registration databases in Illinois and Arizona. Then in January 2017, the government issued its first report on election interference and blamed Russia for the hacks. However, DHS did not tell top state officials that their systems were scanned by hackers until nearly a year after the election.
Quote:The prosecutors offered up more details, including saying that hackers stole information on 500,000 voters from an unnamed state’s website, including names, addresses, partial Social Security numbers, dates of birth and driver’s license numbers.
Monday, November 25, 2019 10:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I'm not a Republican. Besides... it's not the Republicans you have to worry about anyhow. It's all of those people who voted for Trump and Obama, and are going to vote for Trump again. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Monday, November 25, 2019 10:04 AM
Monday, November 25, 2019 12:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: There's only so much bullshit that I can stomach, and her statements tested my limit. Every other sentence that came out of her mouth was manipulative. OOC tho "SHINY", what was her testimony on the matter of the hearings? Did she witness anything? Or did she just bloviate?
Monday, November 25, 2019 12:22 PM
Quote: SGG you can't argue with stupid. The others on the thread are still saying no Russian interference in our election. That is stupid on jacks part and Russian trolling on sig and kiki's. Yup. 1 useless idiot and 2 Old Soviets doing what they do. And you nailed it as well SGG. She was awesome. She put that whiner from Ohio in his place so quickly. He had his brief case in his lap and started pouting and she charmed him while making him look like angry child. He had to go on Fox right after to try and save some face. What is with these crazy @ss Republicans??
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Really!? That's what worries you? YGTBFKM! SGG
Monday, November 25, 2019 12:40 PM
Quote:Time has explained it...
Quote: When Russia set out to interfere with the 2016 election, it went all out. Over the course of the election, a wide-ranging group of Russians probed state voter databases for insecurities
Quote: hacked the Hillary Clinton campaign, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Democratic National Committee
Quote:; tried to hack the campaign of Sen. Marco Rubio and the Republican National Committee
Quote:released politically damaging information on the internet
Quote:; spread propaganda on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and Instagram;
Quote: staged rallies in Florida and Pennsylvania; [THE DEEP STATE] set up meetings with members of the Trump campaign and its associates
Quote:floated a business proposition for a skyscraper in Moscow to the Trump Organization.
Wednesday, November 27, 2019 1:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: "stop them from doing what they did in 2016 and again in 2020" Is she referring to the future as if it was the past and already a fait accompli?
Wednesday, November 27, 2019 2:00 AM
Wednesday, November 27, 2019 2:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: There's only so much bullshit that I can stomach, and her statements tested my limit. Every other sentence that came out of her mouth was manipulative. OOC tho "SHINY", what was her testimony on the matter of the hearings? Did she witness anything? Or did she just bloviate? I take it from lack of anyone's response that she saw and heard nothing except ... as usual ... secondhand gossip. Folks, you need to learn to keep your eye on the ball! You're too easily distracted.
Wednesday, November 27, 2019 2:14 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: A Putin expert, you say? I'm going to need to see some credentials. Did she get her degree in Putinology? Do Right, Be Right. :)
Wednesday, November 27, 2019 2:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: There's only so much bullshit that I can stomach, and her statements tested my limit. Every other sentence that came out of her mouth was manipulative. OOC tho "SHINY", what was her testimony on the matter of the hearings? Did she witness anything? Or did she just bloviate? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY
Wednesday, November 27, 2019 11:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: My God, don't be silly Jack. You guys kill me! SGG Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: A Putin expert, you say? I'm going to need to see some credentials. Did she get her degree in Putinology? Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, November 28, 2019 12:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: My God, don't be silly Jack. You guys kill me! SGG Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: A Putin expert, you say? I'm going to need to see some credentials. Did she get her degree in Putinology? Do Right, Be Right. :) I thought Liberals only went to college to study racial inequality and gender studies. Even though she chose not to get into STEM, I for one think it's great that Fiona got her Doctorate in Putin instead. That's why she's making the big bucks now and not asking you if you'd like cream in your Starbucks coffee while bitching about "muh Patriarchy" on Twitter until 3:00AM. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, November 28, 2019 1:00 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: The same 400-lb guy laying in bed cracking the DNC, when everybody knows it was.....Ukraine!? Ha! sgg Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: My God, don't be silly Jack. You guys kill me! SGG Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: A Putin expert, you say? I'm going to need to see some credentials. Did she get her degree in Putinology? Do Right, Be Right. :) I thought Liberals only went to college to study racial inequality and gender studies. Even though she chose not to get into STEM, I for one think it's great that Fiona got her Doctorate in Putin instead. That's why she's making the big bucks now and not asking you if you'd like cream in your Starbucks coffee while bitching about "muh Patriarchy" on Twitter until 3:00AM. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, November 28, 2019 1:03 AM
Quote:The Democratic National Committee, which is struggling to keep up with its Republican counterpart’s fundraising pace, is turning to 2020 presidential candidates for help raising cash in the pivotal fourth quarter.
Quote:The latest filings show that the Republican National Committee raised just over $23 million in August and has $53 million on hand, while the DNC brought in $7.9 million and has $7.2 million in debt
Thursday, November 28, 2019 6:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: You want an answer. Did you actually watch her testimony.
Quote:Time's up....you didn't immediately answer. Your rules, not mine. What say you?
Friday, November 29, 2019 3:20 AM
Quote:Do you mean the video that you posted? THAT WASN'T TESTIMONY. It was an opening statement. Yes, I watched it. Ten minutes of her telling us what an "expert"she is and then spewing bullshit. That was the part I couldn't stomache.
Quote:I say you're a dick.
Quote:I waited nine hours for "anyone" to respond, and several posts had gone by without "anyone" responding.
Quote:But yanno, you;re typical of liberaloids, applying a different set of standards to your own behavior because the one thing you all have in xommon is that you're all hypocrites.
Friday, November 29, 2019 3:48 AM
Quote:And please, do note how they report the facts here.
Quote:"Struggling to keep up with its Republican counterpart's fundraising pace"????? Gee. Ya think?
Quote:Now, SGG... How do you suppose cnbc would have presented that story if the roles were reversed, and the DNC had $53 Million dollars on hand while the RNC only had $700,000? What about CNN? Vox? Motherjones?
Quote:I can assure you, the kid gloves would not be applied.
Friday, November 29, 2019 4:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6STRINGJACK: And please, do note how they report the facts here.
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: You mean "the facts" the Fake News delivers on a daily basis? according to the Scumbag-in-Chief. Aren't they the purveyors of "fake" news. So which is it?
Quote:I don't know, but I remember once hearing that no matter how much the Dems accumulate that they wouldn't win. So now garnering all the money in the world is a good thing? Yeah, the Slugs are now rich. Someone get the champagne!
Quote:Well, I guess that means we've lost, and a bunch of losers.
Quote:The "Fake' news Legacy media. Of course, they would lie! Wait, I'm confused. You mean that the news of a hefty sum of money garnered by the RNC is "fake" news or real news, and that the "Legacy" media has somehow managed to manipulate this story against(?) the Right Wing fascists? Or, have they've been up to their shenanigans!?
Quote:Please help a "shiny" out! You seem to know more about this "fake" news stuff than I do.
Quote:Ooo, is that a threat?
Friday, November 29, 2019 10:21 AM
Friday, November 29, 2019 10:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Is Jack quoting CNBC and suggesting what they've written is factual?
Quote:How exactly does that work?
Quote:Either all mainstream media is fake news, or only when they write stories that challenge his perceptions?
Quote:For the record. Jack posts mostly opinions because he can't site the media. This is due to the fact they, and the facts they report, exist in an alternate reality from Jacks. Still, he does quote the media when it suits him.
Quote:Question, does Jack realize if his perceptions are based on lies or denials of the facts, that his perceptions are incorrect?
Friday, November 29, 2019 10:55 AM
Quote:It would put Trump’s impeachment process squarely in the media spotlight in the run-up to the early voting states but also would ground several key 2020 contenders in Washington even though their presence as jurors will have little to no impact on the outcome. All signs right now point to the GOP-dominant Senate acquitting President Trump. Republican Sen. John Cornyn, who faces his own reelection fight this year, is practically licking his chops at the thought of Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar, Cory Booker and Kamala Harris, along with independent Bernie Sanders, sidelined from the campaign trail in the weeks leading up to the Iowa caucuses on Feb. 3 and the New Hampshire primary on Feb. 11. South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg is already leading the pack in Iowa, and he and Joe Biden and are nipping at Warren’s heels in New Hampshire. Democrats, Cornyn told reporters late last week, are already “squandering” their opportunity to focus on the issues voters care about most with their march toward impeachment.
Friday, November 29, 2019 12:28 PM
Quote:Do you mean the video that you posted? THAT WASN'T TESTIMONY. It was an opening statement. Yes, I watched it. Ten minutes of her telling us what an "expert"she is and then spewing bullshit. That was the part I couldn't stomache.- SIGNY Careful there sweetheart, you'll bust a gasket. Did you take your meds? I wouldn't want you to have to call 911 and rush you off to the ER. -SGG
Quote: "Russian goals are to ... neutralize a perceived US threat to Russian interests"
Quote:And don't be such a cunt, you know perfectly well I meant her on-air testimony- SGG
Quote:I waited nine hours for "anyone" to respond, and several posts had gone by without "anyone" responding.- SIGNY Really!? did you time it with an official Guinness World Record Holder watch? Of course, if you never respond, does that count? - SGG
Friday, November 29, 2019 1:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: But her statements contradict her so-called expertise. She's fully on-board with the idea that Russia "successfully" interfered in the 2016 election - for which there is little evidence - and that calls into question her objectivity. OF COURSE she backs what the "intelligence agencies" say because she's part of it.
Friday, November 29, 2019 1:36 PM
Quote: But her statements contradict her so-called expertise. She's fully on-board with the idea that Russia "successfully" interfered in the 2016 election - for which there is little evidence - and that calls into question her objectivity. OF COURSE she backs what the "intelligence agencies" say because she's part of it. - SIGY She backs the Senate Intelligence Report On Russian Interference In The 2016 Election. It is the Senate reminding everybody at fff.net that Signym is lying/misleading/fooling them. www.npr.org/2019/07/25/745351734/read-senate-intelligence-report-on-russian-interference-in-the-2016-election
Friday, November 29, 2019 2:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: But her statements contradict her so-called expertise. She's fully on-board with the idea that Russia "successfully" interfered in the 2016 election - for which there is little evidence - and that calls into question her objectivity. OF COURSE she backs what the "intelligence agencies" say because she's part of it. - SIGY She backs the Senate Intelligence Report On Russian Interference In The 2016 Election. It is the Senate reminding everybody at fff.net that Signym is lying/misleading/fooling them. www.npr.org/2019/07/25/745351734/read-senate-intelligence-report-on-russian-interference-in-the-2016-election Oh yeah, the same Senate "Intelligence" Committee that told us that Saddam had WMD. Right.
Friday, November 29, 2019 3:04 PM
Quote:I wrote to Diane Feinstein before authorization of use of force (Iraq), urging her to vote "no". I got back a smarmy form email saying that, well, as a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, she had information that I didn't have, and therefore her decisions were just way more intelligent than mine. What an ass. Feinstein, IMHO, has NEVER been a "liberal", "progressive", "lefist" or whatever you want to call it, in terms of "national security". Neither has Reid. And Pelosi is pretty 50-50.
Friday, November 29, 2019 3:25 PM
Friday, November 29, 2019 3:40 PM
Friday, November 29, 2019 4:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Meh... Whatever. Impeachment isn't going to happen. What else have you got? Do Right, Be Right. :)
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