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Impeachment Investigation Is Underway, Judiciary Committee Says
Sunday, November 17, 2019 9:19 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Monday, November 18, 2019 1:23 PM
THG
Monday, November 18, 2019 1:25 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Monday, November 18, 2019 3:24 PM
Monday, November 18, 2019 3:28 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 11:06 AM
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 11:23 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Anybody watching the impeachment inquiry? I am, I'm watching the impeachment inquiry. They are very exciting. tick tock T Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 12:01 PM
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 12:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Sorry comrade sig but if you were paying attention you'd know this week is set up to blow your all second hand, no first had witnesses out of the water. And sig, and, all their credentials are impeccable. Opps... T Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals. The second week of public hearings in the impeachment inquiry begins Tuesday morning with Jennifer Williams, aide to Vice President Mike Pence, and Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman.
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 12:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Keeping track here ... so far the House has called George Kent, who has said rather briefly that he didn't see or hear anything directly Bill Taylor, who took DAYS to say that he didn't see or hear anything directly either, and Marine Yovanovich, who ALSO didn't see or hear anything but is butt-hurt that she got fired. The whistleblower, Eric Ciamarella according to Rand Paul, who ALSO didn't see or hear anything directly will not appear. Is that about it for the first week? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Sorry comrade sig but if you were paying attention you'd know this week is set up to blow your all second hand, no first had witnesses out of the water. And sig, and, all their credentials are impeccable. Opps...
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 1:03 PM
Quote: Sorry comrade sig but if you were paying attention you'd know this week is set up to blow your all second hand, no first had witnesses out of the water...
Quote:A show trial is a public trial in which the judicial authorities have already determined the guilt of the defendant. The actual trial has as its only goal the presentation of both the accusation and the verdict to the public so they will serve as both an impressive example and a warning to other would-be dissidents or transgressors. Show trials tend to be retributive rather than corrective and they are also conducted for propagandistic purposes.
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 1:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, you can FORGET the entire first week, and all the M$M blowhards who hyperventilated about one "bombshell" after another that turned out to be squibs?
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 1:47 PM
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 2:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by THG: Anybody watching the impeachment inquiry? I am, I'm watching the impeachment inquiry. They are very exciting. tick tock T Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 2:30 PM
Quote: So, you can FORGET the entire first week, and all the M$M blowhards who hyperventilated about one "bombshell" after another that turned out to be squibs? - SIGNY Certainly not as damning as Trump's own words: TRUMP: "The other thing, there's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me." Clear abuse of power
Quote:bribery
Quote:extortion
Quote: and likely not for the first time
Quote:Hey, where have I recently heard someone else use a similar phrase in a completely phony attempt to make the next thing out of their mouth seem popular, or incontrovertible, "...a lot of people ..."
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 2:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Huh, the President of the United States asking a foreign government to look into potential malfeasance of a US politician! "Abuse of power" or "constitutional duty"?
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Liar. The phrase I used was "people" not "a lot of people"... Go look it up yourself, ya maroon
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 3:07 PM
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 3:13 PM
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 5:12 PM
Quote:"but I need you to do me a favor though..."
Quote:More like extortion. You conveniently forgot to say it was conditional, "but I need you to do me a favor though..." Your lies are so 1st grade. Try harder!
Quote:I would like you to do us a favor though.
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 6:10 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 6:27 PM
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 7:35 PM
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 7:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Signy, I want to point out that MUSHY misquoted the phrase: Quote:"but I need you to do me a favor though..." And also trolled based on his 'stupid': Quote:More like extortion. You conveniently forgot to say it was conditional, "but I need you to do me a favor though..." Your lies are so 1st grade. Try harder! So yes, he DOES see/ hear things that never were there. The quote is: Quote:I would like you to do us a favor though. And that puts it as a request, not a demand. (Aside from which, every so called witness says that Zelensky didn't know about any money ties-ins to any investigations at the time of the call. How it could possibly be extortion or even a bribe is beyond me.) Given that that quote is the basis for his post, MUSHY SHOULD have looked it up! And Mushy COULD have looked it up, but he's too smart for that ... what with his smart phone and all.
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 8:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SICKPIGGY: GSTRING "misquotes" Trump, he "misquotes" me, he "misquotes" you, and he "misquotes" SIX all the time.
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 8:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: We both know G that sig is still asking the same questions she has been asking all along. This despite that they've all been answered many times now. And, all in ways that show Trumps guilt.
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 9:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by MUSHY: Please show specific examples, even 1 - I'll wait.
Tuesday, November 19, 2019 9:31 PM
Quote:7:46 P.M. — Morrison once again confirms he didn’t hear anything unlawful during the Trump-Zelensky call. 7:45 P.M. — Morrison confirms each time Sondland told him he had spoken with President Trump, he checked the call logs to see it occurred. 7:40 P.M. — Volker: “Ambassador Sondland is a big personality and sometimes he says things that might be a bit bigger than life.” 7:35 P.M. — Volker on Sondland: “He cared about Ukraine. He wanted to see U.S. support to Ukraine increased.” 7:30 P.M. — Morrison: “I did not understand [investigating the Biden family] as a policy objective.” Volker and Morrison both say they have no evidence of quid pro quo, bribery or treason https://t.co/xHzl0V73EQ pic.twitter.com/7eCmuCRRF9 — CBS News (@CBSNews) November 20, 2019 *** 6:35 p.m. Morrison on Vindman: Top official Tim Morrison said Alexander Vindman's bosses had a lot of concerns about him: -Judgement -Potential leaker -Did not keep his bosses in the loop on what he was doing -Went around his bosses' backs -Was mad he was cut out of working on Ukraine pic.twitter.com/Z9qgSVs9dt — Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) November 19, 2019 5:35 p.m. Morrison testifies that he heard nothing wrong on the July 25 Trump-Zelensky call. Wanted access restricted to the transcript over leak concerns.
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 6:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by THG: We both know G that sig is still asking the same questions she has been asking all along. This despite that they've all been answered many times now. And, all in ways that show Trumps guilt. I wish SIKIKISIX would just confess and tell us who they're working for - that would be much more interesting than this weak sh*t they repost over and over.
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 6:56 AM
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 9:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:Originally posted by MUSHY: Please show specific examples, even 1 - I'll wait. You really mean JUST ONE? You already have it dood. But because it's pretty obvious you don't (can't) read with comprehension, I'll post it again for your edification. And, well, because it makes you look like a stupid liar, and that's always great fun for me. WHAT YOU "QUOTED" TRUMP AS SAYING: Quote:"but I need you to do me a favor though..." WHAT TRUMP ACTUALLY SAID: Quote:I would like you to do us a favor though. Flies shit.
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 11:57 AM
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 12:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Their impeachment dreams are falling apart before their eyes, just like I told them they would, and they're bringing the salt.
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 12:33 PM
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 12:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by THG: We both know G that sig is still asking the same questions she has been asking all along. This despite that they've all been answered many times now. And, all in ways that show Trumps guilt. I wish SIKIKISIX would just confess and tell us who they're working for - that would be much more interesting than this weak sh*t they repost over and over. We know G. Skinheadsix is well, a skinhead. Sig and kiki are Russian polish decedents who as shown here, hate this country and are loyal to Putin. T Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 1:18 PM
Quote: Please show specific examples, even 1 - I'll wait.- GTSRING You really mean JUST ONE? You already have it dood. But because it's pretty obvious you don't (can't) read with comprehension, I'll post it again for your edification. And, well, because it makes you look like a stupid liar, and that's always great fun for me. WHAT YOU "QUOTED" TRUMP AS SAYING: Quote:"but I need you to do me a favor though..." WHAT TRUMP ACTUALLY SAID: Quote:I would like you to do us a favor though. Poor Kiki. So desperate for a "win" she hangs on every little thing hoping to get lucky, hoping someone will misspell a word or drop a comma, like someone on their knees searching the floor of a phone booth looking for loose change. Paraphrasing, summarizing, using quotes to denote spoken word over copied text - totally acceptable. Just ask Hemingway. What's amusing is she makes these tiny claims totally forgetting that everything she posts is against the backdrop of her perpetuating the biggest lie in FFF.Net history. - GSTRING
Quote:And here she is again, propping up another big whopper of a lie. She chooses to "believe" a "favor" from the strongest country on the planet - the only one that can help Ukraine defend itself from an invading Russian army - is not "if you want to," (paraphrasing btw - see how that works with the quotes?). It's a demand, it's a fundamental condition of getting those javelins you need to defend your country. Even Repubs are no longer denying QPQ.
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 1:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The Democrats haven't been able to demonstrate to anyone that QPQ happened, or move the needle on public opinion with their "show trial". They just might destroy their party tho, if we're lucky.
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 1:49 PM
Quote: WASHINGTON — U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland made a significant change to his testimony to House impeachment investigators this week: He said he now remembers telling a top aide to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy that Ukraine would not receive U.S. military assistance until it committed to investigating the 2016 election and former Vice President Joe Biden. ... According to the new sworn declaration, Sondland told Congress that his memory was "refreshed" after reviewing the opening statements given to Congress by Bill Taylor, the acting ambassador to Ukraine, and Tim Morrison, a former adviser to Trump on Russian and European affairs.
Quote: I’m not sure how many people have to testify ...
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Well, let's see how this all sorts out.
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:17 PM
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:18 PM
Quote:He said he now remembers telling a top aide to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy that Ukraine would not receive U.S. military assistance until it committed to investigating the 2016 election and former Vice President Joe Biden. According to the new sworn declaration, Sondland told Congress that his memory was "refreshed" after reviewing the opening statements given to Congress by Bill Taylor, the acting ambassador to Ukraine, and Tim Morrison, a former adviser to Trump on Russian and European affairs. ondland said that by the beginning of September, he “presumed that the aid suspension had become linked to the proposed anti-corruption statement.” Sondland said he also now remembered a Sept. 1 conversation in Warsaw with Andriy Yermak, a top Zelenskiy adviser, in which he told Yermak that "the resumption of U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anti-corruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks." At points in his testimony, Sondland had problems recalling key events described by other witnesses. Asked about a July 10 meeting with White House and Ukrainian officials where Sondland allegedly said he’d worked out a deal with acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney that Zelenskiy could have a meeting with the president if Ukraine opened “investigations,” Sondland said he couldn’t remember.
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:26 PM
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:41 PM
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: In any case, I find nothing wrong with politicians trading favors, and I find nothing wrong with Trump asking that investigation into American involvement in Burisma be revived, and Ukrainian involvement in our 2016 election be initiated. I think they SHOULD be looked into.
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 3:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: “Everyone was in the loop,” according to Sondland
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:Originally posted by second: “Everyone was in the loop,” according to Sondland Except Zelensky. OOPS. Who forgot to tell him?
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:59 PM
JO753
rezident owtsidr
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:03 PM
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Except Zelensky. OOPS. Who forgot to tell him?
Quote:Originally posted by second: Can the President of Ukraine be punished, even theoretically, if he lies to the House?
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 7:30 PM
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