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Impeachment Investigation Is Underway, Judiciary Committee Says
Sunday, October 13, 2019 11:59 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Precrime. Thoughtcrime. You heard it here, folks. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, October 13, 2019 12:14 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:There is something fundamentally wrong with how Americans solve crime. If the criminal won't confess, the system can't solve the crime. There is a sociopath who went on a 40 year murder spree. Only now, when the old fool is talking about his exploits, will the system be able to solve 96 murders. But if the system would look at how the man lived his life during those 40 years, the system would not have waited until he was fat, old, slow and stupid to catch him. Trump is getting fat, old, slow and stupid. The system might catch him, too, but there were many instances in his past that indicated he is a sociopath who should have been locked up.- SECONDRATE
Quote:All those times he broke the law but has not gone to jail will count for nothing. All those tens of thousands of lies he has told will count for nothing. All that tax cheating is nothing. He is innocent.
Sunday, October 13, 2019 12:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Wow, a crazy person calling someone else crazy. How crazy is THAT??? Quote:All those times he broke the law but has not gone to jail will count for nothing. All those tens of thousands of lies he has told will count for nothing. All that tax cheating is nothing. He is innocent. And then it doubles down on delusion. Crazier still!
Sunday, October 13, 2019 12:45 PM
Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECONDRATE is a sociopath. Someone told me so, so it must be true.
Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:11 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: "I eagerly await the lawsuit you and 1kiki have promised to file against me." Nope, not against you. Against SOMEBODY. Or, maybe, several somebodies. Maybe all at once. Maybe not. At a time of my choosing. For reasons you won't know.
Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:25 PM
Quote: Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All
Quote: Trump only takes two positions. Either you’re a scummy loser, liar, whatever, or you’re the greatest. He told Trump that if he would give him half the advance and half the book’s royalties he’d take the job. Such terms are unusually generous for a ghostwriter. He asked Trump to describe his childhood in detail. After sitting for only a few minutes in his suit and tie, Trump became impatient and irritable. He looked fidgety, Schwartz recalls, “like a kindergartner who can’t sit still in a classroom.” “It’s implicit in a lot of what people write, but it’s never explicit—or, at least, I haven’t seen it. And that is that it’s impossible to keep him focussed on any topic, other than his own self-aggrandizement, for more than a few minutes, and even then . . . ” Schwartz trailed off, shaking his head in amazement. He regards Trump’s inability to concentrate as alarming in a Presidential candidate. “If he had to be briefed on a crisis in the Situation Room, it’s impossible to imagine him paying attention over a long period of time,” he said. rump’s short attention span has left him with “a stunning level of superficial knowledge and plain ignorance.” He said, “That’s why he so prefers TV as his first news source—information comes in easily digestible sound bites.” He added, “I seriously doubt that Trump has ever read a book straight through in his adult life.” There was not a single call that Trump deemed too private for Schwartz to hear. “He loved the attention,” Schwartz recalls. “If he could have had three hundred thousand people listening in, he would have been even happier.” Trump seemed driven entirely by a need for public attention. “He lied strategically. He had a complete lack of conscience about it.” Since most people are “constrained by the truth,” Trump’s indifference to it “gave him a strange advantage.” insatiable hunger for “money, praise, and celebrity.” “He’d like people when they were helpful, and turn on them when they weren’t. It wasn’t personal. He’s a transactional man—it was all about what you could do for him.” He told Trump that if he would give him half the advance and half the book’s royalties he’d take the job. Such terms are unusually generous for a ghostwriter.
Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Do you realize that sounds ...
Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:32 PM
Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Somebody is lying about the content of the article. Gee. Who would that be?
Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Somebody is lying about the content of the article. Gee. Who would that be?The title is: "Trump’s Ghostwriter: He’s a Sociopath" I don't think that means the Ghostwriter is the Sociopath. www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/07/18/trump-s-ghostwriter-he-s-a-sociopath The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Quote:Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All “The Art of the Deal” made America see Trump as a charmer with an unfailing knack for business. Tony Schwartz helped create that myth—and regrets it.
Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:39 PM
Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:52 PM
Sunday, October 13, 2019 2:04 PM
Quote: can see clear signs that 1kiki and Signym will crack up.- SECONDRATE
Sunday, October 13, 2019 2:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yanno, just as an aside
Sunday, October 13, 2019 2:54 PM
WISHIMAY
Quote: Originally posted by second: I can see clear signs that 1kiki and Signym will crack up. Trump is starting to crack, too.
Sunday, October 13, 2019 3:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Just as an aside about crazy people having problems . . . Take care Signym, 1kiki, and 6ix that Trump's problems don't kill you. For me, the worse it gets for Trump, the more I laugh. Schadenfreude can't kill me, can it? I worry because I expect to get more every week, maybe too much.
Sunday, October 13, 2019 5:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: I was JUST going to post that you've entered WISHY territory - and speak of the devil! Your insanity must have spoken to hers.
Sunday, October 13, 2019 6:01 PM
Sunday, October 13, 2019 7:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.
Sunday, October 13, 2019 7:10 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Precrime. Thoughtcrime. You heard it here, folks. Do Right, Be Right. :)6ix, you would not do well as a cop. You have someone who has never been convicted of a crime, and yet you jail them then place them on trial. And all the while, they are completely innocent of any crime. It is outrageous! Trump is completely innocent until proven guilty! To impeach him is to prejudge him as guilty. All those times he broke the law but has not gone to jail will count for nothing. All those tens of thousands of lies he has told will count for nothing. All that tax cheating is nothing. He is innocent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ www.ais-cpa.com/tax-fraud-by-the-numbers-the-trump-timeline/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_of_statements_by_Donald_Trump The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Sunday, October 13, 2019 8:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: You would do wise not to throw stones in that glass house of yours.
Monday, October 14, 2019 12:43 AM
Monday, October 14, 2019 1:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: When have I bitched about gay people. Show me the quote.
Quote: What'sss your favorite planet, honey? Mine is Uranussssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss Don't worry about those Klingonssssssssssssssss, sssssweetie. I've got a Vulcanized Particle Weapon just itching to get in on that action. Heya Lonessssssssstar! I ssssssseeeee your sssssschwartzsssssssssss isssssssss asssssssss big assssssss mine. Nobody here is bashing gays, faggot.
Monday, October 14, 2019 8:39 AM
Monday, October 14, 2019 9:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: That's not what you said. You said a person, regardless if they were Trump or not, who has exhibited what you deem to be sociopathic behavior should be locked up. You would do wise not to throw stones in that glass house of yours. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Monday, October 14, 2019 11:00 AM
Quote: Originally posted by second: It has only been 8 days since Trump's amazing phone call with the President of Turkey. Unfortunately, nobody stopped Trump from giving Turkey permission to kill Kurds, America's allies. I guess the staff in the White House did not see it as classic sociopathic behavior. It is okay because it is a phone call. t.
Monday, October 14, 2019 11:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: A giant nothingburger and general waster of broadband.
Monday, October 14, 2019 11:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: That's not what you said. You said a person, regardless if they were Trump or not, who has exhibited what you deem to be sociopathic behavior should be locked up. You would do wise not to throw stones in that glass house of yours. Do Right, Be Right. :)Better than locking up a sociopath, maybe letting the sociopath work in the White House would be the best treatment?
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:00 AM
THG
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:03 AM
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:38 AM
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 11:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: More than six in ten (61 percent) of those polled recognized that a U.S. president asking another country for help with "campaigns and political efforts" was something they "should not" do.
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 12:19 PM
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 12:25 PM
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 1:59 PM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The ONLY evidence they have of anything that could even be laughingly called wrongdoing is the Billy Bush tapes.
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 2:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: It's not incumbent on me to provide anybody with any evidence of innocence. It is, however, incumbent upon Democrats and the Legacy Media to provide evidence of Trump's guilt. They have been remiss in these duties. The ONLY evidence they have of anything that could even be laughingly called wrongdoing is the Billy Bush tapes. But please, impeach away. I agree with the impeachment proceedings.
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 2:12 PM
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 2:21 PM
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 2:26 PM
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 2:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: a billion flies eat shit As every single talking head says, impeachment is a POLITICAL process, not a judicial one. Whether or not Trump is impeached, and whether or not he's removed, has nothing to do with guilt or innocence, it's a political shitshow ... exactly the same way the Iraq War wasn't a military decision, it was a political shitshow. And, yanno - a billion flies eat shit.
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 3:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Can't wait for Bolton to be subpoenaed. He said he wants to get a chance to make his case against Trumps claims against him. tick tock tick tock T
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: There it is. :) Exactly what I was waiting for. Let's add Bolton to the list of T's personal heroes.
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 8:07 PM
JO753
rezident owtsidr
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: Wile reading the 10 offensez, I had an idea! After the senate GoPs let Trump off the hook in the impeachment, everybody boycotts 5th Avenue! The premiis iz that they dont want to get shot by Trump or anybody associated with him, including hiz idiot voterz. And not just 5th Avenue in NYC, but EVERY 5th Avenue in the nation! ---------------------------- DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early http://www.7532020.com .
Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: There it is. :) Exactly what I was waiting for. Let's add Bolton to the list of T's personal heroes. Nice try! Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The ONLY evidence they have of anything that could even be laughingly called wrongdoing is the Billy Bush tapes. https://www.needtoimpeach.com/impeachable-offenses/ "TRUMP'S 10 IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES 1. Obstructing Justice The trail of evidence starts with Trump’s attempt to get Comey to drop an investigation into National Security Advisor, Michael Flynn. When he refused, Trump fired James Comey, the FBI director responsible for overseeing the investigation into Trump’s relationship with Russia during the 2016 election. Trump made two more attempts at stopping the investigation by trying (unsuccessfully) to fire Robert Mueller, Comey’s predecessor. Then, Trump ordered White House Counsel Don McGahn to create a false record indicating that no attempts took place – McGahn refused. Trump has repeatedly attempted to intimidate or influence witnesses in proceedings against him. In all, Robert Mueller’s investigation revealed multiple instances where there was “very substantial” evidence that Trump had committed obstruction of justice. Read more about Donald Trump’s obstruction here. 2. Profiting from the Presidency The Constitution’s Foreign Emoluments Clause prohibits the president from accepting personal benefits from any foreign government or official. Trump has retained his ownership interests in his family business while he is in office. Thus, every time a foreign official stays at a Trump hotel, or a foreign government approves a new Trump Organization project, or grants a trademark, Trump is in violation of the Constitution. Trump has repeatedly pushed his properties as avenues to secure his favor, and multiple foreign officials have stayed at his properties while lobbying his administration. Saudi officials, and an Iraqi Sheik stayed at his hotel when lobbying for their interests. China approved multiple trademarks for his family’s brands while negotiating trade policies. Trump attempted to promote his club in Doral Florida for the 2020 G-7 Conference. And every time he goes to golf at a Trump property, he funnels taxpayer money into his family business—violating the Domestic Emoluments Clause. To date, Trump has spent over $100 million taxpayer dollars to golf and vacation at his own properties. 3. Collusion In the middle of the 2016 election, Trump’s son was invited to meet with a Russian national regarding “information that would incriminate Hillary and…would be very useful to” Donald Trump. Donald Trump Jr. was told it was “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.” Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort took the meeting. Federal law prohibits campaigns from soliciting or accepting anything of value from a foreign national. Paul Manafort and Rick Gates met with Konstantin Kilimink, likely a Russian spy, multiple times in the summer of 2016 to provide him with internal campaign polling data detailing the Trump campaign’s midwestern strategy. Manafort lied about these meetings to the FBI even after pleading guilty to other crimes. This relationship between the Trump team and multiple Russian nationals raises questions of whether the campaign aided a hostile foreign power’s active operation against the United States. 4. Advocating Political & Police Violence When Trump gave cover to the neo-Nazis who rioted in Charlottesville and murdered a protester, he violated his obligation to protect the citizenry against domestic violence. When Trump encouraged police officers to rough up people they have under arrest, he violated his obligation to oversee faithful execution of the laws. Trump and his rhetoric have been cited in numerous criminal proceedings as being the inspiration and justification for political violence. When faced with impeachment in the House, Trump has alluded to his supporters engaging in insurrection to keep him in power – a rallying cry readily picked up by his supporters. 5. Abuse of Power President Trump threatened to withhold aid from Ukraine if its Prime Minister did not investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son. Using taxpayer dollars to manipulate an important ally against Russia and attack a political rival is a clear abuse of presidential power. Furthermore, this administration tried to conceal the whistleblower complaint that brought this corruption to light and label the civil servant who filed it as partisan. In addition, Trump’s decision to pardon Joe Arpaio, who was convicted for contempt of court after ignoring a court order that he stop detaining and searching people based on the color of their skin, amounted to an abuse of the pardon power that revealed his indifference to individual rights, equal protections, and the separation of powers. Pardoning this conviction goes against the Fifth Amendment, which allows the judiciary to issue and enforce injunctions against government officials who flout individual rights. 6. Engaging in Reckless Conduct High-ranking administration officials involved in foreign affairs have signaled that Trump does not have the capacity to make informed decisions in the event of a military crisis. Even worse, his actions could spark a needless confrontation stemming from misunderstanding or miscalculation. We see this in full effect every time Trump tweets or makes a public statement taunting and threatening the North Korean regime. The president may be the “Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States,” but that does not give him the right to behave in reckless or wanton ways that put millions of lives at risk. If he is unfit to perform his duties as Commander in Chief, he cannot be allowed to remain in the position. 7. Persecuting Political Opponents President Trump has repeatedly pressured the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate and prosecute political adversaries like Hillary Clinton; now, the DOJ has reopened the Clinton email investigation in an attempt to scandalize his opponents. This is not based in concerns with national security, law enforcement, or any other function of his office—it is an attempted power play, plain and simple. Trump also pressured the Ukrainian government to investigate Joe Biden, his potential opponent in the general election, by leveraging US military aide to help his reelection prospects. Trump and Attorney General Barr have asked foreign intelligence agencies to assist in an investigation to discredit Robert Mueller, hoping to undermine the credibility of the damning Mueller Report. There’s no question that these actions constitute an outrageous and inappropriate abuse of executive branch powers and serve as clear grounds for impeachment. 8. Attacking the Free Press President Trump has repeatedly attacked the concept of an independent press. He’s called critical coverage “fake news” and journalists “the enemy of the American people,” made threats to change libel laws and revoke licenses, and his battles with CNN led him to try to interfere in the AT&T/Time Warner merger. His Administration has repeatedly and baselessly revoked press credentials for critical coverage. He has dismissed the murder of a critical journalist, citing the economic partnership the US has with the offending nation. This demonstrates his unwillingness to respect and uphold the Constitution, and disdain for the crucial foundations to our free society. Thanks to Free Speech for People, whose white paper, ‘The Legal Case for a Congressional Investigation on Whether to Impeach President Donald J. Trump,’ served as the basis for this list. 9. Violating Immigrants' Right to Due Process Enforcing its new “zero tolerance” policy, the Trump administration separated as many as 3,000 immigrant children from their parents at the southern border. This policy was meant to deter families from attempting to cross the border. The children and their families have been held in internment camps and cages with what lawyers call “inhumane conditions.” Due to negligence, the Trump administration has no plan to reunite all children with their families, even deporting some parents while their children remain detained. Currently, the Trump administration is in court trying to enforce a policy allowing the administration to detain migrants indefinitely in violation of their constitutional rights. Thanks to Free Speech for People, ‘New ground for impeachment hearings: cruel and unconstitutional imprisonment of children and their families,’ served as content for this impeachable offense. 10. Violating Campaign Finance Laws Donald Trump knew disclosure of his extramarital affairs with Stephanie Clifford (A.K.A. Stormy Daniels) and Karen McDougal could hurt his chances at winning the 2016 election. At the direction of Trump, Michael Cohen and American Media, Inc. (AMI), the publisher of the National Enquirer bought the rights to the women’s stories and forced them to sign Non-Disclosure Agreements to prevent them from going public for the purpose of protecting his campaign. Cohen admitted to making illegal, hush-money payments to hide Trump’s affairs in the fall of 2016, just weeks before the election. Federal prosecutors, and Trump’s co-conspirators Cohen and AMI, all say that Cohen made the payments at Trump’s direction, “in concert with the campaign,” and with the intention of helping Trump win. Trump made illegal reimbursements to Michael Cohen for this crime while President, discussing the illegal scheme while in the Oval Office. Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator because he directed Cohen to “cause an unlawful corporate contribution” and an “excessive campaign contribution” by paying the two women hush money with the intent to influence the election. Thanks to Free Speech for People, whose white paper, ‘The Legal Case for a Congressional Investigation on Whether to Impeach President Donald J. Trump,’ served as content for this impeachable offense." I don't agree with all of the supporting points, but it's a far cry from grabbing P being the ONLY Impeachable offense.
Wednesday, October 16, 2019 1:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: 7. Persecuting Political Opponents President Trump has repeatedly pressured the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate and prosecute political adversaries like Hillary Clinton; now, the DOJ has reopened the Clinton email investigation in an attempt to scandalize his opponents. This is not based in concerns with national security, law enforcement, or any other function of his office—it is an attempted power play, plain and simple. Trump also pressured the Ukrainian government to investigate Joe Biden, his potential opponent in the general election, by leveraging US military aide to help his reelection prospects. Trump and Attorney General Barr have asked foreign intelligence agencies to assist in an investigation to discredit Robert Mueller, hoping to undermine the credibility of the damning Mueller Report. There’s no question that these actions constitute an outrageous and inappropriate abuse of executive branch powers and serve as clear grounds for impeachment.
Wednesday, October 16, 2019 7:39 AM
Wednesday, October 16, 2019 9:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: BTW... none of those bullet points are legit. Either they are flat out not criminal "offenses" (which only some people are even offended by), but the rest of them are hearsay and/or anonymous claims with no actual evidence to back them up.
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