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Impeachment Investigation Is Underway, Judiciary Committee Says
Wednesday, October 9, 2019 9:35 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: And over 75% of people in the US supported the Iraq War. Yanno, a billion flies eat shit. I bet you did, too. It doesn't make it caviar.
Wednesday, October 9, 2019 9:47 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:Originally posted by SLOPPY SECONDS: 1kiki, you are mixing impeachment of judges with impeachment of Presidents. Even though both are called "impeachment", one is well established procedure and the other is not, mostly because there are thousands of judges at any time, but only one President.
Quote:Originally posted by SLOPPY SECONDS: 1kiki, you are mixing impeachment of judges with impeachment of Presidents. Even though both are called "impeachment", one is well established procedure and the other is not, mostly because there are thousands of judges at any time, but only one President.
Wednesday, October 9, 2019 9:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: So - go find that quote. Or I'll just figure you're doing your usual bullshitting (lying).
Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:05 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SLOPPY SECONDS: Whatever you think you know about impeachment, SLOPPY SECONDS, it counts for nothing.
Quote:Originally posted by SLOPPY SECONDS: But beyond those lines, there isn’t much more information spelling out exactly how the process should work — which gives the House free rein to decide how things can go, including whether to launch the inquiry with a full floor vote or not.
Thursday, October 10, 2019 12:38 AM
Thursday, October 10, 2019 7:33 AM
Thursday, October 10, 2019 7:55 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Thursday, October 10, 2019 7:59 AM
Quote:Burisma paid Joe Biden $900,000 for lobbying – Ukrainian MP 17:43, 09.10.2019 4 min read KYIV. Oct 9 (Interfax-Ukraine) – Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden received $900,000 for lobbying activities from Burisma Group, Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada member Andriy Derkach said citing investigation materials. Derkach publicized documents which, as he said, "describe the mechanism of getting money by Biden Sr." at a press conference at Interfax-Ukraine's press center in Kyiv on Wednesday.
Thursday, October 10, 2019 8:00 AM
THG
Thursday, October 10, 2019 8:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: In SECONDRATE's ever-sifting kaleidescope of thoughts, SECONDRATE jump tracks froHouse rules to Senate effectiveness, to death. SECONDRATE has no idea which of his ideas takes precedence and cannot control his own thoughts. SECONDRATE
Thursday, October 10, 2019 8:39 AM
Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:01 AM
Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Trump hasn't acted lawlessly. If you truly believe that he is now, I bet you regret the way the Legacy Media has not picked its battles, and subsequently, how you haven't either. Something like 55% of less than 5% of the people who actually watch the news and pay any attention to any of this are for impeachment. Wooptie doooo Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:26 AM
Thursday, October 10, 2019 12:20 PM
Quote: The Latest: Ukraine to probe alleged 2016 US interference By Associated Press October 10, 2019 at 7:33 AM EDT KYIV, Ukraine — The Latest on Ukrainian president’s “media marathon” (all times local): 2:25 p.m. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy says his country will “happily” investigate whether Ukrainians interfered in the 2016 U.S. elections. ... He said it’s in Ukraine’s interest to determine what happened.
Quote:President Donald Trump asked Zelenskiy for such an investigation in a July phone call
Quote:Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy says there was “no blackmail” in a phone call with U.S. President Donald Trump that helped spark an impeachment inquiry. Responding Thursday to questions from The Associated Press, Zelenskiy said that he only learned after their July 25 phone call that the U.S. had blocked hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to Ukraine.
Thursday, October 10, 2019 12:32 PM
Thursday, October 10, 2019 1:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: As I understand it, Trump will cooperate with the investigation but only if Pelosi allows Republicans to participate in meetings, to cross examine and be able to call rebuttal witnesses, and allow Trump counsel during House testimony. Those protections were accorded Bill Clinton, and Hillary Clinton (when she was investigated for Benghazi) and it's only fair. Otherwise Pelosi is just heading a kangaroo court. So I'm glad that Trump is giving House Dems the big middle finger; they deserve it.
Thursday, October 10, 2019 3:20 PM
Thursday, October 10, 2019 3:50 PM
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Thursday, October 10, 2019 4:21 PM
Thursday, October 10, 2019 4:49 PM
Thursday, October 10, 2019 5:11 PM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I see that The Intercept, and SECONDRATE, have already determined Trump's guilt, absent of a trial and actual ... yanno. evidence. Read the article. I smell and awful lot of "if" coming offa that plan. But SECONDRATE buys into it because he's crazy.
Thursday, October 10, 2019 5:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I see that The Intercept, and SECONDRATE, have already determined Trump's guilt, absent of a trial and actual ... yanno. evidence. Read the article. I smell and awful lot of "if" coming offa that plan. But SECONDRATE buys into it because he's crazy. He's guilty of so much more than using the US government to smear his upcoming rival it's hilarious, in a black humor kind of way. The level of corruption is so deep... we saw only the top of it with Russia!Russia!Russia! Funny thing, I think we all knew at some level he was a lying, corrupt piece of sh*t, just some chose to ignore it because Hillary!Hillary!Hillary! and some even for {i]Russia!Russia!Russia!
Thursday, October 10, 2019 7:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I see that The Intercept, and SECONDRATE, have already determined Trump's guilt, absent of a trial and actual ... yanno. evidence.
Quote:I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.
Thursday, October 10, 2019 8:03 PM
Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: a person familiar with her expected testimony told NBC News.
Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I see that The Intercept, and SECONDRATE, have already determined Trump's guilt, absent of a trial and actual ... yanno. evidence.Did you miss the point that so long as Trump is President and Barr is Attorney General, Trump will NOT be charged? But Trump won't always be President. Maybe Pence will be the next President. Maybe he will give Trump a blanket pardon, same as President Ford gave to Nixon:Quote:I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974. https://watergate.info/1974/09/08/text-of-ford-pardon-proclamation.html All President Pence need do is change names and dates. Trump's Pardon is ready to go. The next Democrat for President sure is not giving Trump a pardon. The next Democrat won't honor a self-pardon that Trump gives to Trump. Trump has to resign, or else never leave the White House. President-for-Life Donald Trump has a nice sound to it. When Ford reads to the nation the text of the pardon, he said July 20, 1969, but the pardon says January 20, the first day Nixon was in office. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Thursday, October 10, 2019 10:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: He won't be found guilty of anything in any court of law. I'm sure he's not worried about it.
Thursday, October 10, 2019 11:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Just a few weeks ago it seemed that Trump would skate on charges both of colluding with Russia to subvert the 2016 election and of obstruction of justice; the Mueller report was basically a bust, partly because the story was complicated, partly because of Robert Mueller’s diffidence. But Trump has managed to make things clear. First he demanded that foreign regimes produce dirt on domestic political rivals, not just in phone calls but right there on camera. Now he’s engaged in a crude, obvious effort to stonewall the House impeachment inquiry that is clearly an impeachable offense in itself. Why did he hand the Democrats so much ammunition? Partly he seems to have gotten high on his own supply — he actually seems to believe the bizarre conspiracy theories his supporters drum up to excuse his actions. Also, he lacks self-restraint. Even if he considers any effort to hold him accountable a form of treason, he should have known better than to blurt it out in public. If Trump were cannier and more self-controlled, he would be unstoppable. He has the backing of a party whose elected representatives have shown no sign of scruples. He has de facto state media in the form of Fox News and the rest of the Murdoch empire. He has already managed to corrupt key government agencies, including the Justice Department. Indeed, these advantages are so large that he may yet prevail. The only reason he could falter is Trump’s own deficiencies. It says a lot about the modern G.O.P. that the party is still solidly behind a man so obviously, grotesquely, not up to the job. I am grateful that Trump is immature and incompetent. His character flaws may bring him down, but Republicans will learn from that. Next time they will find a Trump clone minus the obvious problems with dishonesty and mental instability. "Luckily, Trump Is an Unstable Non-Genius" www.nytimes.com/2019/10/10/opinion/donald-trump.html The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Friday, October 11, 2019 6:59 AM
Friday, October 11, 2019 7:34 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: At least four national security officials raised alarms about Ukraine policy before and after Trump call with Ukrainian president https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/at-least-four-national-security-officials-raised-alarms-about-ukraine-policy-before-and-after-trump-call-with-ukrainian-president/ar-AAIAZm4?ocid=spartanntp This thing is going to end many a career. tick tock T
Friday, October 11, 2019 7:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: It's always interesting to go back and grade these things in the light of history.
Friday, October 11, 2019 8:11 AM
Friday, October 11, 2019 10:29 AM
Friday, October 11, 2019 10:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: What grade to you give Trump for his stupid move in Syria this week? Impeachable grade stupidity?
Friday, October 11, 2019 11:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: It's always interesting to go back and grade these things in the light of history.
Friday, October 11, 2019 11:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: DA da da da. Trump loses again in court. He has to give congress his taxes. Last stop, Supreme Court. tick tock Donnie T
Friday, October 11, 2019 11:34 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: That's not going to go the way you hope it does. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Friday, October 11, 2019 11:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Are you saying that the legal system does not go the way it is expected?
Friday, October 11, 2019 1:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Are you saying that the legal system does not go the way it is expected? Yup. Still no justice for Epstein or his clients. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Friday, October 11, 2019 3:01 PM
Friday, October 11, 2019 3:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Are you saying that the legal system does not go the way it is expected? Yup. Still no justice for Epstein or his clients. Do Right, Be Right. :)There is justice! Turns out, the president is not above the law. A federal appeals court held TODAY that Trump’s claims that he is immune to congressional oversight have no basis in law.
Friday, October 11, 2019 3:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Dissenting opinion by Neomi Rao - Nomiated by Donald Trump, March 18th, 2019 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neomi_Rao
Friday, October 11, 2019 3:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SECOND: What grade to you give Trump for his stupid move in Syria this week? Impeachable grade stupidity?
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI:Speaking of stupidity ... what a stupid thing to post. SLOPPY thinks that all fullness of 'history' can be known in mere hours. SLOPPY is a deranged idiot.
Quote:Originally posted by SECOND: With one phone call, and given 3 days, Trump's go ahead to Turkey was followed by a war between Turkey and the Kurds in Syria. History has spoken and it said Trump's strategy is idiotic.
Friday, October 11, 2019 3:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: With one phone call, and given 3 days, Trump's go ahead to Turkey was followed by a war between Turkey and the Kurds in Syria. History has spoken and it said Trump's strategy is idiotic. To keep a new war from starting, Trump only had to NOT give the President of Turkey what he wanted from Trump in that phone call. We will never know if Trump felt that Trump Towers Istanbul would go bankrupt if Trump did not give Turkey's President what he asked for -- which was to move American troops out of the way of Turkish troops so that the invasion of Syria could begin this week. That is exactly the kind of thing that would get him impeached. Obviously, if Trump had done what he said he was going to do while campaigning, he would not own Trump Towers Istanbul today and he would not have to weigh which is more important to himself: making Trump money in Istanbul or starting a new war. "Some Hard Truths About Turkey’s Invasion Of The Syrian Kurds" www.forbes.com/sites/melikkaylan/2019/10/11/some-hard-truths-about-turkeys-invasion-of-the-syrian-kurds/ "Turkish party: Seize Trump's hotel to protest sanctions" www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/2/turkish-party-seize-trumps-hotel-protest-sanctions/ I am sure Trump is aware he could have lost a hotel this week if he did not cooperate with Turkey's War on Kurds. What is more important to Trump? A few thousand dead Kurd women and children? Or Trump's hotel in Istanbul? I think we know it is the hotel. I think he should be impeached for that, even though he will deny he let a war start because he loves money. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Friday, October 11, 2019 3:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: It'll be a long, long time before anyone knows ALL the relevant facts. But that doesn't stop you from being a deranged idiot, does it SLOPPY?
Friday, October 11, 2019 3:50 PM
Friday, October 11, 2019 3:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: It'll be a long, long time before anyone knows ALL the relevant facts. But that doesn't stop you from being a deranged idiot, does it SLOPPY? The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality. Signy posted this elsewhere, it just took me a couple minutes to research this; https://news.bitcoin.com/turkey-throws-another-wrench-into-the-usds-works-and-joins-russian-swift/ Turkey Throws Another Wrench Into the USD's Works and Joins Russian Swift Let's see ... Turkey has Russia's defense system and is no longer reliant on buying US arms; and has joined the SWIFT alternative, blunting any sanctions efforts. OOPS. They've slipped the US leash. And to round out the info, so has Iran. https://www.eurasiareview.com/22092019-have-moscow-and-tehran-essentially-turned-away-from-us-dollar-oped/ “Russia and Iran will transfer payments using an alternative system to the internationally recognized SWIFT money transfer network, Governor of Iranian central bank, ..."
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