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Also let it be known, for the record, that SECOND advocates for the popular election of the President.

1) Alhto, I have so say, SECOND, that if you look at the results of popular elections everywhere - Senators, Representatives, Governors, state assemblypeople, mayors etc- you're unlikely to be happy with those results either, because the GOP will still be elected to office. Just look at the number of times that terrible GOP candidates were elected as President, WITH the popular vote. Once again, that giant grotch that you carry around with you is blinding you to reality. I don't know where all of your hate comes from, but it's doing you no good.

2) Personally, I think JO and (in a sideways kind of way, KIKI) have a better suggestion, and that is to reduce the role of POLITICAL PARTIES. That was ONE of the reasons for the electoral college. But it sure didn't work! The Founding Fathers hated the thought of a few things, private central banks being one (They had experience with the Bank of England to inform them), big giant corporations being another (East India Company was another example to avoid) and political parties being a third.

3) Why don't you turn that giant grotch towards a useful outcome, and figure out a way to reduce the role of money and political parties in our elections? It's a knotty problem to solve, just right for that kind of obsessive grinding that you're so good at!

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1) Reagan, Bush 1, and Nixon were also terrible GOP Presidents in their own way. History isn't limited to the last 18 years yanno. If I were to look back further in history, I'm sure I'd find a BUNCH of terrible Presidents of all parties, elected by popular vote. And BTW, Hillary would have been a terrible President too.

2) Did I say BAN political parties??? No, I didn't. But for some reason, there are many nations with multiple parties which need to form coalitions in order to govern, which offer the populace more policy choices.

3) Do you think that money only became important after Citizens United??? Oh, my dear child! Please re-think that post!

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Probably in regret for what he had NOT done to Nixon, in retirement LBJ took up heavy smoking, drinking, and all around gluttony to make himself feel better. Many Texans still do that when they feel like failures. They turn toward huge portions of food, tobacco, alcohol, drugs. It doesn't work. It killed LBJ only two days after Nixon's second inauguration.

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I wish it killed him sooner and more painfully. He deserved it.

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Probably in regret for what he had NOT done to Nixon, in retirement LBJ took up heavy smoking, drinking, and all around gluttony to make himself feel better. Many Texans still do that when they feel like failures. They turn toward huge portions of food, tobacco, alcohol, drugs. It doesn't work. It killed LBJ only two days after Nixon's second inauguration.

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You do realize that there is life outside of Texas, don't you?

Hell, I'm not even sure that you know if there are people other than Republicans in Texas on one side and noble and virtuous you on the other.

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I wish it killed him sooner and more painfully. He deserved it.

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Yanno... for supposedly being on the right side of history and on the side of justice and all that is right and good in the world, you and Marcos and a few of the others here really come off as some of the most hateful, spiteful and judgmental people I've ever known.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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1) Reagan, Bush 1, and Nixon were also terrible GOP Presidents in their own way. History isn't limited to the last 18 years yanno. If I were to look back further in history, I'm sure I'd find a BUNCH of terrible Presidents of all parties, elected by popular vote. And BTW, Hillary would have been a terrible President too.

2) Did I say BAN political parties??? No, I didn't. But for some reason, there are many nations with multiple parties which need to form coalitions in order to govern, which offer the populace more policy choices.

3) Do you think that money only became important after Citizens United??? Oh, my dear child! Please re-think that post!

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Picking one of your points ...

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"1kiki, would you be one of those who see no reason for Senators to be chosen by popular vote because the previous system gives you the results you want?"

I've been arguing for the current Constitution the whole time. Now you're accusing me of not wanting to follow it.

The reason why you have to lie, SECOND is because you're mentally, morally, and socially leprous.

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Yeah... pretty much.

I love when Second shows everybody what an awesome guy he is by showing what an asshole he is. Super scary big tough guy, Second. lol

He's got all the money in the world, yet here he is... spending his free time telling 4 people he doesn't agree with how they should think and live their lives.

I truly feel honored.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah... pretty much.

I love when Second shows everybody what an awesome guy he is by showing what an asshole he is. Super scary big tough guy, Second. lol

He's got all the money in the world, yet here he is... spending his free time telling 4 people he doesn't agree with how they should think and live their lives.

I truly feel honored.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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LBJ’s wife tells a story about him to Robert A Caro. Caro’s reaction:
I’m sure that I was too old to blush; I just, I am sure, felt as if I were blushing. The next week, we met in her office, for another long, immensely helpful interview, on other topics, during which I was able to look at her again.
www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/01/28/the-secrets-of-lyndon-johnsons-a
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You need to read the story. Then you will know why LBJ's wife didn't give a damn whether or not her husband killed himself with smoking and drinking after he retired from the White House. She outlived him by about 40 years. Life was much more pleasant without him.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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I'm sure he was an asshole.

It's a prerequisite for politics or any high profile government job.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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SECOND ... speaking of random and self-contradictory rants .... you spend post after post bitterly attacking Trump specifically and Texas Republicans, the GOP, and people who voted against Hillary generally. You lay the blame for Trump's election on racism and sexism and a myriad of other factors (none of them the DNC's fault, of course!) and most lately on your last grotch: the Elecoral College and the Constitution of the United States.

Then you post a long, detailed attack on Pres Johnson, who was ... iirc ... a Democrat elected by the largest percent of the popular vote. Ever.

So, what's your point? You seem to have shot down your own arguments about Republicans and the electoral college in one fell swoop by demonstrating that

a) Democrats are just as bad as Republicans (You did the same when you attacked Kennedy) and
b) The popular vote is just as capable of electing assholes as the Electoral College

DO you have a point?

IMHO ... you never do. This is just a place for you to thoughtlessly splatter and spew. I would suggest that you see a psychiatrist if you want a place to drain those deep emotional abcesses of yours because you might get something positive out of it, but I'm sure you won't take that suggestion.

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Just so you don't forget....

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Just so you don't forget....

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Signym, like all Trumptards I know in the real world, you make promises/resolutions/oaths/declarations of your intentions you won't keep. Several times you and 1kiki promised not to read me. Then there were the promises to sue me. Do one, or another, or even both! Otherwise you just look like you have some kind of mental disorder. But then the Trumptards I know actually do have mental disorders. It is so sad that they reached out for help from Donald Trump, the man who can get nothing done, despite all his promises/resolutions/oaths/declarations of his intentions. I always forget Trump gave himself and me a huge tax cut. At least he kept that promise. I am so thankful.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Hear Hear

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So you don't have a point. Got it.

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