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Saturday, September 29, 2018 8:42 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The rest of this quote is a great example of why you shouldn't use broad, sweeping generalizations. The sh*t you post! You were the one I called out for saying, "she's using false accusations..." and you couldn't stand up and be accountable for.... using sweeping generalizations that you also couldn't back up. "How do you know?" Silence. And now more sweeping generalizations, "It's a MeToo thing." Damn dude. Right G, dead on. T
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The rest of this quote is a great example of why you shouldn't use broad, sweeping generalizations. The sh*t you post! You were the one I called out for saying, "she's using false accusations..." and you couldn't stand up and be accountable for.... using sweeping generalizations that you also couldn't back up. "How do you know?" Silence. And now more sweeping generalizations, "It's a MeToo thing." Damn dude.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The rest of this quote is a great example of why you shouldn't use broad, sweeping generalizations.
Saturday, September 29, 2018 8:54 AM
THG
Saturday, September 29, 2018 10:49 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I wasn't silent. I was very clear when I said that given the high political stakes here and the fact that the illiberal, regressive Leftitst have made crying Rape one of their go-to moves along with calling everyone a Nazi, I would have been more surprised if he wasn't accused of rape than I am that he was.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Me saying that that this is a false accusation is not broad, nor is it sweeping. It's a very targeted accusation on my part. And as far as "how do I know?" Let me put it this way. I have just as much evidence that she threw out a false accusation as she has backing up her accusation.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Do me a favor and Google Kavanaugh #MeToo But yeah. I guess I'm just making that shit up. lol
Saturday, September 29, 2018 10:59 AM
REAVERFAN
Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:02 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: I've seen a lot of different behavior from all kinds of people; after a while you just realize that they're all individuals. - SIGNY Unless they're part of an Asian Lady Gang you mean. You do see how you just removed their individuality and packaged them into a group so you could dismiss or demean their actions, right? - GSTRING
Quote:To Siggy: You sound just like a bro. - GSTRING
Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:04 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: The Kavanaugh affair has produced millions of words of comment. At this point, it’s a purely partisan fight. Yup. Quote:I think pretty much everyone — Democrat and Republican alike — does know the truth of what happened: yada yada yada
Quote:Originally posted by second: The Kavanaugh affair has produced millions of words of comment. At this point, it’s a purely partisan fight.
Quote:I think pretty much everyone — Democrat and Republican alike — does know the truth of what happened: yada yada yada
Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:08 AM
Quote:I am in a very select group that thinks that something is seriously wrong with Kavanaugh, right here and now, not the teenage Kavanaugh from 35 years ago. Kavanaugh reminds me of Bill Clinton saying I did not have sex with that woman, while he was on national TV. If Bill wasn't stupid, he would have apologized and saved himself a lot of trouble. Apologies are cheap. Kavanaugh should know that, too, because he worked on impeaching Bill Clinton. Kavanaugh should have apologized for his uncouth teen years and easily saved himself a lot of trouble. -SECOND
Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:36 AM
Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:39 AM
Saturday, September 29, 2018 1:55 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Saturday, September 29, 2018 1:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Never fear - the FBI is on the case! I wish I had more trust in the institution, but at least there'll be an investigation. https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/29/politics/kavanaugh-fbi-background-investigation/index.html
Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:03 PM
Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:05 PM
Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: No, I'm talking about you, Russian troll.
Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:00 PM
Quote:This is what my previous post was all about. Eroding faith in our institutions
Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: This is what my previous post was all about. Eroding faith in our institutions The institutions themselves are the cause of "eroding faith".
Quote: This is what my previous post was all about. Eroding faith in our institutions
Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: This is what my previous post was all about. Eroding faith in our institutions, egged on by Russian trolls.
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: You must mean Russian trolls like CNN and the NYTimes and USAToday. FBI, Justice Dept. riddled with anti-Donald Trump, pro-Clinton bias https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/06/15/justice...fbi.../704815002/ Jun 15, 2018 - When is political bias not political bias? When it is ... “FBI Employee” consoled Attorney 2 that “Trump's supporters are all poor to middle class, ... F.B.I. Agents Gave Trump a Weapon Against Mueller. Republicans Are ... https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/.../politics/fbi-ig-report-house-hearing-republicans.ht... Jun 19, 2018 - Though the report focused on the investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server and found no evidence that political bias ... If you want to know whether Strzok was biased, just look at his texts ... https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/13/opinions/strzok-hearing-bias-opinion.../index.html Jul 14, 2018 - FBI agent Peter Strzok's bias against then-candidate Donald Trump is ... political analysts professed to hear nothing new in FBI agent Peter ... Peter Strzok fired from the FBI - CNNPolitics - CNN.com https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/13/politics/peter-strzok-fired-fbi/index.html Aug 13, 2018 - The FBI has fired Peter Strzok, an agent who was removed from the ... had an extramarital affair, that could be read as exhibiting political bias.
Quote:Originally posted by THG: You quote zerohedge. Your concept of what is truthful and what is not disqualifies you from making judgements concerning honest institutions. I'll give you a hint. Mainstream means where most people get their information. Why, because they have the highest level of trust even in the worst of times. You're by far the one who posts the most fake information in these threads. Laughable sig, your opinions are laughable. And I see once again you are quoting and having a conversation with yourself. T
Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:18 PM
Quote:You quote zerohedge. Your concept of what is truthful and what is not disqualifies you from making judgements concerning honest institutions. I'll give you a hint. Mainstream means where most people get their information. Why, because they have the highest level of trust even in the worst of times.
Saturday, September 29, 2018 7:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:You quote zerohedge. Your concept of what is truthful and what is not disqualifies you from making judgements concerning honest institutions. I'll give you a hint. Mainstream means where most people get their information. Why, because they have the highest level of trust even in the worst of times. Truth is not determined by who "most people" trust. At one time, most people trusted the church and believed that the earth was flat. At one time, most people trusted their shamans and believed that disease was caused by a curse. Or, to put it another way ... A billion flies eat shit. Why should I care who "most people" trust? HOW do we determine what is true and what is not? HOW do we make sense of the welter of conflicting opinions? There is the scientific method. Perhaps you've heard of it? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake "The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
Saturday, September 29, 2018 8:24 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:You quote zerohedge. Your concept of what is truthful and what is not disqualifies you from making judgements concerning honest institutions. I'll give you a hint. Mainstream means where most people get their information. Why, because they have the highest level of trust even in the worst of times. Truth is not determined by who "most people" trust. At one time, most people trusted the church and believed that the earth was flat. At one time, most people trusted their shamans and believed that disease was caused by a curse. Or, to put it another way ... A billion flies eat shit. Why should I care who "most people" trust? HOW do we determine what is true and what is not? HOW do we make sense of the welter of conflicting opinions? There is the scientific method. Perhaps you've heard of it?
Saturday, September 29, 2018 8:38 PM
Sunday, September 30, 2018 6:32 AM
Sunday, September 30, 2018 7:19 AM
Sunday, September 30, 2018 7:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: I've seen a lot of different behavior from all kinds of people; after a while you just realize that they're all individuals. - SIGNY Unless they're part of an Asian Lady Gang you mean. You do see how you just removed their individuality and packaged them into a group so you could dismiss or demean their actions, right? - GSTRING Well, there was a third Asian woman involved, who provided an allegation with NO DATE AND NO PLACE (Was it the parking lot? The front lobby? Five years ago? Six?) much like Blasey-Ford. (Also, I read the investigation report.) So, there were three women, all Asian, who would gather in a little group in a private corner of the lab before and after every step of the investigation, looking sideways at XXX if he happened to walk by ... it was pretty obvious what was going on. They were Asian, they were women, and they ganged up on somebody. Hence Asian lady gang.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You think "sounding like a bro" is an insult?? PREJUDICED MUCH?
Sunday, September 30, 2018 8:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I bet at this point that if he gets sworn in he's going to be the most partisan judge there ever was. The entire Left has come at him, attacked him and his family, and has viewed him as guilty from the second the accusation was made. Anybody who has any empathy at all can see that. And if he does get sworn in, the way this entire thing was handled is going to be one in a growing line of extremely poor decisions the Democrats have made in recent years. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, September 30, 2018 8:44 AM
Sunday, September 30, 2018 8:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: You had all of this ready to post 6 minutes after RF posted? Amazing skill Kiki.
Sunday, September 30, 2018 9:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: So, can Kavanaugh decide a case based on the law rather than his feelings?
Sunday, September 30, 2018 9:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: You had all of this ready to post 6 minutes after RF posted? Amazing skill Kiki.
Sunday, September 30, 2018 9:47 AM
Sunday, September 30, 2018 9:54 AM
Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:04 AM
Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: What I'm wondering is ... WHAT IF the FBI investigation shows nothing? Then what? Will facts move anyone's mind an angstrom's worth of distance?
Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:35 AM
Quote: https://www.npr.org/2018/09/28/652558787/what-difference-would-it-make-if-the-fbi-were-to-investigate-kavanaugh The FBI Is Going To Investigate Kavanaugh After All. What Does That Mean? September 28, 201812:23 PM ET Philip Ewing A wild turn of events on Friday flipped a new FBI investigation into Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh from a long shot into a sure thing. That was one result of an eleventh-hour agreement among the members of the Senate Judiciary Committee after a contentious session of offstage horse-trading. The panel voted to recommend the embattled Kavanaugh to the full Senate on the condition that the final floor vote not take place until after the FBI conducted a background investigation into allegations of sexual misconduct confronting the nominee. The inquiry would be "limited in scope" and completed within a week. The White House later Friday ordered the bureau to do just that. The FBI is expected to produce a report for the White House, which the administration would then give the Senate. The compromise Democrats and outside groups had been calling for the FBI's involvement since the allegations by Christine Blasey Ford and other women first surfaced that Kavanaugh had assaulted them or committed other such acts — allegations that Kavanaugh strongly denies. Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., pitched the delay and new investigation to his compatriots, apparently setting that as his condition for ultimately supporting Kavanaugh on the Senate floor. Republican leaders, who need every vote they can get to confirm the nominee, agreed. Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, had opposed involving the FBI but said Friday he would take up Flake's case. Ultimately he secured an agreement with Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. "We've had a good day today by moving the nominee," Grassley told reporters. "A good day. We're very happy with the progress we've made." Democrats said the compromise was the right move. "I think it will be better for the country that this FBI investigation occur," Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., told NPR. "I'm not sure what the answers will be. It's possible some of the witnesses won't even agree to talk with FBI. ... But to think we wouldn't even try would be the saddest thing for the country." What happens next The new deadline for a Kavanaugh vote is Oct. 5. Grassley asked President Trump to instruct the FBI to spend that week conducting interviews, reviewing documents and looking into the new accusations. The president agreed. "The supplemental FBI background investigation would be limited to current credible allegations against the nominee and must be completed no later than one week from today," Grassley said. It wasn't immediately clear whether "current credible allegations" would mean the FBI would interview only people connected with Ford's case or with some of the other women who have come forward with allegations against Kavanaugh. The FBI is unlikely to open a criminal investigation. Instead, its investigators are expected to pursue the same kind of background inquiry they have conducted on Kavanaugh in the past, focused on the new allegations. The nominee said in a statement released by the White House that he would go along. "Throughout this process, I've been interviewed by the FBI, I've done a number of 'background' calls directly with the Senate, and yesterday, I answered questions under oath about every topic the Senators and their counsel asked me," Kavanaugh said. "I've done everything they have requested and will continue to cooperate." At least one key player in this drama also volunteered to talk: Mark Judge — a boyhood friend of Kavanaugh's who has been accused by Ford of being a bystander to her sexual assault and was named in other allegations — said in a letter to the Judiciary Committee that he would cooperate under certain conditions. Judge renewed his denials about being involved with any sexual misconduct and said that he would "cooperate with any law enforcement agency that is assigned to confidentially investigate these allegations." Why would the FBI make a difference? It's a crime to lie to Congress, but lying to the FBI is a whole other matter. And there is a practical difference between people in the Kavanaugh case issuing written statements — as Judge and others have done — and actually sitting down with human special agents. Investigators might glean details from people involved that aren't yet in the public eye. They might discover there are more people, including witnesses or others, than have been a part of the public accounting so far. But the FBI will not give its own determination about the truthfulness of what witnesses say — one reason Grassley and Kavanaugh both earlier said they opposed activating the bureau. Investigators probably only will conduct interviews and then pass them to the Senate, they said. Even if the bureau serves only as a gold-plated transcription service in this case, the completeness of those transcripts might exceed the body of evidence that now exists — and it would be evidence obtained from witnesses who could be prosecuted if they lied to the feds. Democrats and outside groups — and now, Flake — argue that the information that has surfaced recently means the FBI must look into Kavanaugh again. Ford told the Judiciary Committee she hadn't told anyone about her alleged sexual assault by the 1990s, when Kavanaugh was screened for a job in the Justice Department, or even by the early 2000s, when he was cleared to work in the White House of President George W. Bush. Many Republicans say the due diligence on Kavanaugh already was complete. Now that the Judiciary Committee has voted to recommend him to the full Senate, they argue, the full chamber must decide. NPR correspondent Tim Mak contributed to this report.
Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:42 AM
Quote:They were Asian, they were women, and they ganged up on somebody. Hence Asian lady gang. - SIGNY Hence, you no longer thought of them as individuals as you bragged about earlier.- GSTRING
Quote:You think "sounding like a bro" is an insult?? PREJUDICED MUCH? - SIGNY Well, it was meant as one. Are you sure you know what "bro" means? - GSTRING
Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yes, I know what "bro" means. My point was that you CLAIM to think of and treat people as individuals, you criticized me for calling a group of conspirators a "gang" and yet, there you are ... castigating an entire CATEGORY of totally unknown individuals. I mean, would it have been any different if you said "You sound like a Jew"? Isn't lumping people together like that ... in your mind ... an act of prejudice? Just sayin'.
Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:55 AM
Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:59 AM
Sunday, September 30, 2018 11:02 AM
Sunday, September 30, 2018 11:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Many Republicans say the due diligence on Kavanaugh already was complete. Now that the Judiciary Committee has voted to recommend him to the full Senate, they argue, the full chamber must decide.
Sunday, September 30, 2018 11:29 AM
Sunday, September 30, 2018 12:21 PM
Sunday, September 30, 2018 2:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: The democrats are hoping that this hail Mary pass will save the day. While I'm happy that there'll be at least some type of extra vetting - hail Mary passes rarely work irl. Unless there's some egregious heretofore unnoticed boulder of a problem, I don't think it will change the outcome. Well, that's what you get when you've lost the Senate and House years ago - and then you lose the Presidency.
Sunday, September 30, 2018 3:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: So, can Kavanaugh decide a case based on the law rather than his feelings? Tell me a single time that Sotomayor didn't vote along party lines. The whole Supreme Court is a partisan hack job these days. There hasn't been objectivity there for decades. I don't have to ask you why you feel it's so important that Kavanaugh's swearing in is blocked. You're the only one here attacking him for legitimate reasons instead of being a part of the Leftist hate mob. Your answer to this question would have been the same 3 months ago as it is today. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, September 30, 2018 4:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: You had all of this ready to post 6 minutes after RF posted? Amazing skill Kiki. Why, yes I did, thanks to google! Have you never used it? You should try it sometime! In this case I typed in * fbi biased political * and then copy /pasted the paragraphs from the results page, skipping any with known political leanings, like politico which came up first; or unsubstantiated claims like Strozk denying he was biased, which came up second; ... and so on. And btw, you should never be amazed that anyone can be better and faster at this than you because - well, you and your cohorts really suck at information-gathering. You truly do. You are abysmal at it. A blind kindergärtner could do better.
Sunday, September 30, 2018 4:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan:
Sunday, September 30, 2018 4:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Worth quoting T Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan:
Sunday, September 30, 2018 4:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: So, can Kavanaugh decide a case based on the law rather than his feelings? Tell me a single time that Sotomayor didn't vote along party lines. The whole Supreme Court is a partisan hack job these days. There hasn't been objectivity there for decades. I don't have to ask you why you feel it's so important that Kavanaugh's swearing in is blocked. You're the only one here attacking him for legitimate reasons instead of being a part of the Leftist hate mob. Your answer to this question would have been the same 3 months ago as it is today. Do Right, Be Right. :)Somebody has been paying attention.
Sunday, September 30, 2018 4:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: You had all of this ready to post 6 minutes after RF posted? Amazing skill Kiki. Why, yes I did, thanks to google! Have you never used it? You should try it sometime! In this case I typed in * fbi biased political * and then copy /pasted the paragraphs from the results page, skipping any with known political leanings, like politico which came up first; or unsubstantiated claims like Strozk denying he was biased, which came up second; ... and so on. And btw, you should never be amazed that anyone can be better and faster at this than you because - well, you and your cohorts really suck at information-gathering. You truly do. You are abysmal at it. A blind kindergärtner could do better. It's what happens when you truly believe that your smartphone makes you smarter. Do Right, Be Right. :)
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