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I cannot start this list at the moment.

This is a reminder for me.

I will try to list them.

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I cannot start this list at the moment.

This is a reminder for me.

I will try to list them.

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Paul Manafort plea deal has Trump team 'terrified,' analysts say

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I cannot start this list at the moment.

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That is a mighty weak attempt to be Donald Trump’s mouthpiece. Donald, yesterday, wrote:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
The illegal Mueller Witch Hunt continues in search of a crime. There was never Collusion with Russia, except by the Clinton campaign, so the 17 Angry Democrats are looking at anything they can find. Very unfair and BAD for the country. ALSO, not allowed under the LAW!
7:20 AM - 16 Sep 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1041330897948160002

When did he pass the bar? Does he really think the investigation would have been allowed to go on all this time if it were "illegal"? I checked. It is not illegal:

Appointment of special counsel to investigate Russian interference with the 2016 presidential election and related matters, including any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3726381/Robert-Mueller-Spec
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Whenever Donald, or others, post "witch hunt" it's a weak attempt at deflecting the obvious. Both he and his followers (the kissers of ass) gaslight to draw attention away from their illegal activities, greedy
behavior and all around treasonous acts.

They, of course, fail miserably.


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I honestly hope that Trump really isn't guilty of doing anything because in the end this is all going nowhere and it's because of how the Left and the Media have behaved the last two years.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I honestly hope that Trump really isn't guilty of doing anything because in the end this is all going nowhere and it's because of how the Left and the Media have behaved the last two years.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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If Republicans do well in the midterms, holding a House majority and gaining a Senate seat or two, they are going to try to govern the country. They will make another stab at repealing the Affordable Care Act, enact a new round of tax cuts, and move to cut safety-net programs like SNAP.

There’s a problem with this program of cutting taxes for the rich in order to cut useful programs for the rest is: It’s unpopular. So when Hannity asks Trump to explain why people should vote Republican, Trump can’t bother to cite any of their actual policy agenda:

HANNITY: What do you say to those people that love you but maybe aren’t so hot on the Republican House or Senate member?

TRUMP: You have to go out and vote. We need more Republicans. We will get everything we want, but we need more Republicans. Want to protect your Second Amendment, everything, protect all of the great success that you have had over the last little more than a year and a half, think of it, we are coming up — can you believe it — on two years.

Another tactic is to make up fake positions and attribute them to his opponents, as when Trump says, “The Democrats, they want open borders, people coming in, that means crime.”

Last but by no means least, Trump observes that “the stock market today hit the highest level in its history” and then says a Democratic Congress will crash the market for no reason: “401(k)s are up, 57 percent in a short period of time. If the Democrats get in, those numbers will be cut in half. You will see bad things.”

www.foxnews.com/transcript/2018/09/20/president-trump-talks-kavanaugh-
controversy-russia-probe.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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I honestly hope that Trump really isn't guilty of doing anything because in the end this is all going nowhere and it's because of how the Left and the Media have behaved the last two years.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I'm not going to be happy with the outcome if the Republicans maintain a hard majority down the line. I just don't see it turning out any other way because the Democratic Party and MSM have become so toxic that they can't even win against a Trump white house.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Well, the clock is ticking toward that fateful day there 6ix and hope's all
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Here's what I suggest: You guys take half the country, and the left take over the other
half. Then let's see who will fare better.


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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Here's what I suggest: You guys take half the country, and the left take over the other
half. Then let's see who will fare better.


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Oh, I soooo wish.
One side will be educated with clean air and water and nice roads and people (let's make sure the Rethugs are downwind and downstream btw) and the other side will be full of ignorant cults that chain women to the stove to give birth to all the chemically riddled mutated babies because science is bad and consumer protections keep the overlords from making their millions.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

BungBetty has never visited a City, where the dregs of society reside, Murder and rape each other, glomming off Nanny-State handouts?

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How Many Threads Here Wasted On Mueller's Witch-hunt? ... Another 13. Total of 164. - JSF

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I'm not going to be happy with the outcome if the Republicans maintain a hard majority down the line. I just don't see it turning out any other way because the Democratic Party and MSM have become so toxic that they can't even win against a Trump white house. - SIX

What!? that statement makes no sense at all.
So, the Right is in control of the WH, Congress and Senate (and judicial) and
you're still not happy? because of the Dems and Media (is that ALL Media?).
So, basically you want Dems completely out of the picture. Here's what I suggest: You guys take half the country, and the left take over the other
half. Then let's see who will fare better. - SGG

Apparently you can't read English. - KIKI

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How Many Threads Here Wasted On Mueller's Witch-hunt? ... Another 13. Total of 164. - JSF

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Too effing many!

What's going to happen to the AIL mind when the Mueller investigation reveals that Obama, Hillary, and the DNC conspired with Fusion GPS, MI6, Steele, and the Australian deep state to entrap Trump?


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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Here's what I suggest: You guys take half the country, and the left take over the other
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Oh, I soooo wish.
One side will be educated with clean air and water and nice roads and people (let's make sure the Rethugs are downwind and downstream btw) and the other side will be full of ignorant cults that chain women to the stove to give birth to all the chemically riddled mutated babies because science is bad and consumer protections keep the overlords from making their millions.

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Golly.
BungBetty has never visited a City, where the dregs of society reside, Murder and rape each other, glomming off Nanny-State handouts?
And she has also never visited the rural agronomy, where Conservatives harness and husband the fresh water and environs to provide more food than a nation of Cities can consume.

BungBetty really remains sheltered beyond belief.

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I'm not going to be happy with the outcome if the Republicans maintain a hard majority down the line. I just don't see it turning out any other way because the Democratic Party and MSM have become so toxic that they can't even win against a Trump white house. - SIX

What!? that statement makes no sense at all.
So, the Right is in control of the WH, Congress and Senate (and judicial) and
you're still not happy? because of the Dems and Media (is that ALL Media?).
So, basically you want Dems completely out of the picture. Here's what I suggest: You guys take half the country, and the left take over the other
half. Then let's see who will fare better. - SGG

Apparently you can't read English. - KIKI

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SHINY, you have a baaad case of "arguing with the voices in your head". Those voices are so strong, they're preventing you from even hearing what someone else is saying, and recognizing that it is NOT what you think!

Take a deep breath and this time, try to quiet your mind long enough to comprehend what someone else is posting.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Well, the clock is ticking toward that fateful day there 6ix and hope's all
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I got a lot more than that. I have no stake in this game at all. Doesn't matter to me what happens.

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But how's it going nowhere and when? The left? really!? and the Media!? Gee,
I always thought that you guys believed that once you had control of all 3
branches of government, it would be smooth as ice to guide the country to
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There you go doing that "you guys" thing again.

I've always said that our government is at its "best" when the branches are split and they can't get anything done or passed because they're in a gridlock.

I even just said it again in the first paragraph that you didn't quote here in your response. lol.

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"We'd be winning so much, that people would say, please...this is too much winning."

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Well... we're not losing. I'm happy with things not getting any worse while I spend my own time doing productive things and improving my own life.

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Can't speak for anyone else, but I am.

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How Many Threads Here Wasted On Mueller's Witch-hunt? ... Another 13. Total of 164. - JSF

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Too effing many!

What's going to happen to the AIL mind when the Mueller investigation reveals that Obama, Hillary, and the DNC conspired with Fusion GPS, MI6, Steele, and the Australian deep state to entrap Trump?


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Well, I guess we all have to curl up into a big ball and die.

That's Life!


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How Many Threads Here Wasted On Mueller's Witch-hunt? ... Another 13. Total of 164. - JSF

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Too effing many!

What's going to happen to the AIL mind when the Mueller investigation reveals that Obama, Hillary, and the DNC conspired with Fusion GPS, MI6, Steele, and the Australian deep state to entrap Trump?


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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This is pointless.

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Well, the clock is ticking toward that fateful day there 6ix and hope's all
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I got a lot more than that. I have no stake in this game at all. Doesn't matter to me what happens.

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But how's it going nowhere and when? The left? really!? and the Media!? Gee,
I always thought that you guys believed that once you had control of all 3
branches of government, it would be smooth as ice to guide the country to
winning!!!

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There you go doing that "you guys" thing again.

I've always said that our government is at its "best" when the branches are split and they can't get anything done or passed because they're in a gridlock.

I even just said it again in the first paragraph that you didn't quote here in your response. lol.

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"We'd be winning so much, that people would say, please...this is too much winning."

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Well... we're not losing. I'm happy with things not getting any worse while I spend my own time doing productive things and improving my own life.

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One question: are we there yet?

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Can't speak for anyone else, but I am.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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BungBetty!? WTF!?

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JSF is terrified someone might enjoy sex in any other fashion than missionary position, butt at the same time spends a lot of time obsessing about gays and what they might be doing.

Typical in-the-closet Rethug behavior.

I can't even imagine what his porn habits entail. Something Amish, I'm sure. Oooh Greta...show us your earlobes

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What's going to happen to the AIL mind when the Mueller investigation reveals that Obama, Hillary, and the DNC conspired with Fusion GPS, MI6, Steele, and the Australian deep state to entrap Trump? - SIGNY

Well, I guess we all have to curl up into a big ball and die.- SHINY

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You both get dirty, but the pig enjoys it.

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I don't mind roasting a pig every now and then. - WISHY

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I think you just made a fool of yourself.

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> I < made a fool of myself?? by contesting that farmers are glorified stewards of the land, by pointing out their only concern...LIKE EVERYONE ELSE....is making money??

I see nothing ever changes here...yer still an idiot...

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Mueller Probe Is In Its 'Final Weeks', Expected To Wrap Up After Midterms

Following reports earlier this month that three prosecutors from the office of Special Counsel Robert Mueller have been reassigned to their previous postings within the Department of Justice (and another has left the DoJ entirely for a research fellowship at Columbia Law School), it appears the Mueller probe, which has persisted for roughly 18 months, has entered its final weeks, with sources within the DoJ telling Bloomberg that a final report on Mueller's findings regarding the probe's two most important threads - whether President Trump obstructed justice during the firing of James Comey and whether the Trump Campaign actively colluded with the Russian government - could be submitted to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein shortly after the midterm election.

However, this doesn't mean that investigations and indictments stemming from Mueller's findings will come to a stop: Mueller has long since started delegating different aspects of his investigation (for the example, the investigation into Michael Cohen that yielded a guilty plea in August) to other prosecutors, and still could pursue an in-person interview with Trump, despite having submitted a list of written questions to Trump's legal team (questions about the firing of James Comey and President Trump's tweets have been declared off limits). Though the DOJ's policy of not indicting a sitting president could stymie any attempt to secure a grand jury subpoena.

Department of Justice guidelines suggest that prosecutors should avoid releasing politically sensitive details to the public directly ahead of an election, which is why Mueller will probably wait to wrap things up until after Nov. 6. Though there's no guarantee that Mueller's findings will ever be made public, since Rosenstein is under no obligation to release them (but if he doesn't, it's almost guaranteed that they will leak). Rosenstein has reportedly made it clear to Mueller that he wants him to wrap up the investigation as "expeditiously as possible." If no more indictments are forthcoming, it's expected that Mueller will move to shut the probe down.

With three weeks to go before the midterm elections, it’s unlikely Mueller will take any overt action that could be turned into a campaign issue. Justice Department guidelines say prosecutors should avoid any major steps close to an election that could be seen as influencing the outcome.

That suggests the days and weeks immediately after the Nov. 6 election may be the most pivotal time since Mueller took over the Russia investigation almost a year and a half ago. So far, Mueller has secured more than two dozen indictments or guilty pleas.

Trump’s frustration with the probe, which he routinely derides as a “witch hunt,” has been growing, prompting concerns he may try to shut down or curtail Mueller’s work at some point.

And since Mueller has been tight-lipped about his biggest bombshells dating all the way back to the Manafort indictment, it's possible that there have been "other major developments behind the scenes." Insiders have said that Manafort's plea deal, struc to avoid a trial in a Washington court following his conviction in Virginia, may have "advanced" Mueller's timeline in the collusion probe.

And whatever Manafort offered the Mueller probe to secure his plea deal, odds are it's "something good."

Manafort appears to have good material to offer, said Samuel Buell, a former federal prosecutor who teaches at Duke University School of Law. "He’s not going to get that deal unless he can help Mueller make a case against one or more people," Buell said. Cooperators can’t expect leniency unless they provide "substantial assistance in the prosecution of others," Buell added, citing sentencing guidelines.

Though the fact that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein hasn't been fired suggests one of two things: Either that he has informally suggested that the probe won't result in any legal action against the president, and that the extent of the findings will be one mildly embarrassing report, or that Rosenstein has somehow convinced Trump that the probe is effectively toothless as a ruse. If this is true, the probe's biggest findings may still be ahead of us.

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Yep, that new Get Rich Quick Scheme: farming.
If that were true, then every dairy farmer would have switched to BGH.

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I should probably update this, since new threads continue to sprout. Like weeds.

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Was Russia’s 2016 intervention for Trump a tactical success, yet a strategic failure?
www.vox.com/2019/4/25/18516471/mueller-report-russia-hacking-trump-put
in-2016-election

On the night of Donald Trump’s victory, members of the Russian Duma reportedly burst out in applause when Trump’s election was confirmed, and Putin was spotted sipping champagne. In a speech at the Kremlin, he announced, “Russia is ready and wants to restore full-fledged relations with the US.” In the middle of the celebration, Kirill Dmitriev, the head of Russia’s sovereign wealth fund, received a text from a friend in New York: “Putin has won.”

As Mueller’s report makes clear, Putin viewed Trump and his aides as potential collaborators in his plan to restore Russia’s role as an influential global player. So, Mueller reported, “as soon as news broke that Trump had been elected President, Russian government officials and prominent Russian businessmen began trying to make inroads.”

As Robert Anderson Jr., a former top counterintelligence official with the FBI, explained in a March court document, these types of back channels “would have benefited the Russian government by enabling Russia to bypass formal channels of diplomacy, win concessions, and exert influence within the United States. Such benefits to the Russian government would have carried with them commensurate harm to the United States, including harm to the integrity of the United States’ political processes and internal government dealings, as well as to U.S. foreign policy interests and national security.”

Putin wanted Trump to lift the economic sanctions imposed to punish Russia — and its wealthy elite — for the annexation of Crimea, and to forestall the imposition of tougher sanctions. His government was pushing a Ukraine peace plan that would largely preserve the status quo, and it needed Trump’s assent to quell international and regional opposition.

For a while, the effort to create warmer relations and find a compliant partner must have looked like it was making headway.

But some of the Russians’ entreaties were ignored — partly due to dysfunction and incompetence on the part of Trump’s team.

As questions about Russian election interference began to swirl in the American media and the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into Russia’s influence efforts — which had formally kicked off four months before the election — expanded, Putin’s proxies started running into walls. Flynn, who had convinced Kislyak to tell Putin to hold off on retaliation for sanctions, was booted from the White House within a month of Trump’s swearing in, after the FBI made it clear he had lied to the vice president and was a counterintelligence risk. He later pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI and made a plea deal, explaining his sanctions conversations to Mueller.

Petr Aven, the oligarch chairman of the Russian Alfa-Bank, had sought — at Putin’s direction — intermediaries to push for a communications channel to improve US-Russia relations, according to the Mueller Report. But he was told in an email from Richard Burt, a former US ambassador who was on the board of one of Aven’s companies, that “with so much intense interest in the Congress and the media over the question of cyber-hacking (and who ordered what), Project A [a back channel] was too explosive to discuss.” Later, the Mueller Report states, Aven had to explain to Putin in one of their quarterly meetings that not only had he failed to establish a back channel with the new American president, he had received a subpoena from the FBI and been questioned about his efforts to do so.

Putin’s tactics worked to help bring Trump into the Oval Office, and Trump’s role as a strategic disruptor is obviously paying dividends, with America’s popular reputation provably in decline around the globe. But the overall plan may still prove a strategic failure for the Russian president. Despite attempts, even by Trump himself, to downplay Russia’s interference, the considerable evidence to the contrary dug up by Mueller has now mostly been published.

So even as the trolls and bots continue to try to spread disinformation, the truth — or at least part of it — is finally out. And with it comes a diminished chance of repairing US-Russia relations on terms that Putin might like.

More at www.vox.com/2019/4/25/18516471/mueller-report-russia-hacking-trump-put
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Anybody notice that secondbot posted that Putin & Co. tried to make inroads AFTER Trump was elected?
Accidentally stumbled into the Truth, no matter how allergic he is to it.

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