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Monday, September 17, 2018 12:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Google it.

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Monday, September 17, 2018 1:08 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Google it.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/406881-lisa-page-bombshell-fbi-could
nt-prove-trump-russia-collusion-before-mueller

Lisa Page bombshell: FBI couldn’t prove Trump-Russia collusion before Mueller appointment

Donald Trump took it personal. He, and his voters, have a very constipated understanding of what the FBI is doing, thinking that the FBI has nothing unless they recorded a wiretapped conversation between Donald and Vladimir Putin. That would be fascinating if there was such a conversation, but that is not what the special counsel is investigating. Instead:

The appointment of special counsel is to investigate Russian interference with the 2016 presidential election and related matters, including any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3726381/Robert-Mueller-Spec
ial-Counsel-Russia.pdf


Despite what Donald thinks, or his voters think, the investigation is NOT all about him. It is about Russian interference with the 2016 election.

I'd like the special counsel to read "House of Trump, House of Putin" by Craig Unger. Mueller would have hundreds of news-stories about Trump money laundering for Russian friends of Putin. There might be something illegal there. Journalists can only go so far without the power to subpoena that Mueller has. Mueller could carry things forward to Court, not just to publication in a newspaper or a book.
www.amazon.com/House-Trump-Putin-Untold-Russian/dp/152474350X/

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Monday, September 17, 2018 1:19 PM

THG


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Google it.



Lisa Page testimony: Collusion still unproven by time of Mueller's special counsel appointment

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/16/lisa-page-testimony-collusi
on-still-unproven-by-time-muellers-special-counsel-appointment.html


Once again jack shows how gullible a moron he is. The headline he led us to is that collusion was unproven before an investigation took place.

His critical thinking skills are so lacking he didn't realize he was creating a thread that highlights his stupidity.

Duh...hey jack...duh, in other words, no shit Sherlock.


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Monday, September 17, 2018 2:06 PM

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Monday, September 17, 2018 7:22 PM

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Today! Trump escalated his efforts to interfere with Mueller’s probe

Trump is demanding the release of an enormous amount of internal material, without redaction, about an ongoing investigation into his campaign and his associates. Every Lisa Page document is included.

Those text messages could discuss all manner of things, including, potentially, investigators’ suspicions, secret evidence, investigative methods, and information on confidential sources whose lives could be put at risk if his instruction to release them “without redaction” is carried out.

The goal appears obvious: Trump is searching for something, anything new he can use to try to discredit the investigation. The GOP has been making hay of the texts between Strzok and Lisa Page all year, and this is an effort to surface similar material Trump can use to attack Mueller.

It’s an investigation Trump has routinely attacked and undermined. He’s not releasing these for “transparency.” He’s looking for ammunition.

More at www.vox.com/2018/9/17/17871876/trump-russia-mueller-declassification

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Monday, September 17, 2018 10:05 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol

What's the reverse of tick tock?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:32 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

What's the reverse of tick tock?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

We know for sure that Trump hates Lisa Page. Why should he bother? Because she worked for Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who might find that Trump cheated on his taxes when he laundered money for Russian mobsters. Trump really, really does not want to pay back taxes he owes. Trump will say anything to stop a financial investigation.
"The Untold Story of Donald Trump and the Russian Mafia" Hardcover – August 14, 2018
www.amazon.com/gp/product/152474350X
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President Donald Trump, of course, has denied having anything to do with Russia, having tweeted, ten days before his inauguration, “Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!”2
But as this book will show, over the last four decades, President Donald Trump and his associates have had significant ties to at least fifty-nine people who facilitated business between Trump and the Russians, including relationships with dozens who have alleged ties to the Russian Mafia.
It will show that President Trump has allowed Trump-branded real estate to be used as a vehicle that likely served to launder enormous amounts of money—perhaps billions of dollars—for the Russian Mafia for more than three decades.
It will show that President Trump provided an operational home for oligarchs close to the Kremlin and some of the most powerful figures in the Russian Mafia in Trump Tower—his personal and professional home, the crown jewel of his real estate empire—and other Trump buildings on and off for much of that period.
It will show that during this period the Russian Mafia has likely been a de facto state actor serving the Russian Federation in much the same way that American intelligence services serve the United States, and that many of the people connected to Trump had strong ties to the Russian FSB, the state security service that is the successor to the feared KGB.
It will show that President Trump has been a person of interest to Soviet and Russian intelligence for more than forty years and was likely the subject of one or more operations that produced kompromat (compromising materials) on him regarding sexual activities.
It will show that for decades, Russian operatives, including key figures in the Russian Mafia, studiously examined the weak spots in America’s pay-for-play political culture—from gasoline distribution to Wall Street, from campaign finance to how the K Street lobbyists of Washington ply their trade—and, having done so, hired powerful white-shoe lawyers, lobbyists, accountants, and real estate developers by the score, in an effort to compromise America’s electoral system, legal process, and financial institutions.
It will show that President Trump, far from being the only potential “asset” targeted by the Russians, was one of dozens of politicians—most of them Republicans, but some Democrats as well—and businessmen who became indebted to Russia, and that millions of dollars have been flowing from individuals and companies from, or with ties to, Russia to GOP politicians, including Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell, for more than twenty years.



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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 7:22 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Ah. It's a financial investigation now. Got it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 7:42 AM

REAVERFAN


It's also treason.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:01 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ah. It's a financial investigation now. Got it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

How can we know what it really is? Mueller only communicates with indictments. You and I have to do a lot of guessing because Mueller wants to keep the criminals guessing, too. We can't even know until Mueller gets a conviction who the criminals are. One thing we know is that President Trump was $4 billion in debt when Russian money came to his rescue and bailed him out, and, as a result, he was and remains deeply indebted to them for reviving his business career and launching his new life in politics. Did Trump do some tax cheating while helping Russians spend their money on real estate? Only Trump and his accountant know for sure and Trump acts like he is worried that Mueller will subpoena his accountant. Therefore Trump's attack on Lisa Page.

The whole official process being run by Mueller is extremely secretive. There is one thing that is not a secret: Trump wants it to STOP NOW! It can't be because Trump is worried about the secret Mueller investigation costing too much, because the taxes that Manafort will now have to pay will cover all the costs. It must be that Trump is worried about Trump, not about a witch hunt wasting taxpayers money.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:14 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Oh. Okay. lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:18 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh. Okay. lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It is not laughable. It is obvious that something terrible is going on inside Trump's head. What it is I don't know, but that is why he wants Mueller to stop investigating. "It is a totally illegal Witch Hunt!" 7:23 AM - 17 Sep 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1041694123382726656

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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:15 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yup. It's so obvious.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 10:07 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ah. It's a financial investigation now. Got it.



You definitely don't "got it."

Financial ties = leverage, financial pain compliance, and favors for favors = collusion, conspiracy, and as RF says, can definitely equal Treason. Putting your financial dealings with other countries before your duty as president, for example. Repeatedly lying about those connections is obstruction and abuse of power. You probably don't/can't/won't see that either.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 1:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ah. It's a financial investigation now. Got it.



You definitely don't "got it."

Financial ties = leverage, financial pain compliance, and favors for favors = collusion, conspiracy, and as RF says, can definitely equal Treason. Putting your financial dealings with other countries before your duty as president, for example. Repeatedly lying about those connections is obstruction and abuse of power. You probably don't/can't/won't see that either.



Like you did when it came to Clinton's financial ties, huh?

Oh, wait. The Russians hacked the DNC and Hillary's server, so that makes whatever was said in those emails null and void. Got it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 1:31 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Like you did when it came to Clinton's financial ties, huh?

Oh, wait. The Russians hacked the DNC and Hillary's server, so that makes whatever was said in those emails null and void. Got it.




Brilliant - Straight from the The Trump playbook for Stooges, 101. "The Hillary Dodge" - gee, never seen that one before. Bet you get a Trump Treat from SIGGY for that.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 1:58 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 1:59 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Like you did when it came to Clinton's financial ties, huh?

Oh, wait. The Russians hacked the DNC and Hillary's server, so that makes whatever was said in those emails null and void. Got it.




Brilliant - Straight from the The Trump playbook for Stooges, 101. "The Hillary Dodge" - gee, never seen that one before. Bet you get a Trump Treat from SIGGY for that.



It's a legitimate question. You can use the reverse Hillary Dodge if you so choose, but that is only another exercise in ignoring your own hypocrisy.

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You definitely don't "got it."

Financial ties = leverage, financial pain compliance, and favors for favors = collusion, conspiracy, and as RF says, can definitely equal Treason. Putting your financial dealings with other countries before your duty as president, for example. Repeatedly lying about those connections is obstruction and abuse of power. You probably don't/can't/won't see that either.



Every single word of this can be applied to Hillary and Bill Clinton.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 2:17 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yanno, while all of you libruls crow about how Manafort was pressured into cooperating with Mueller (and still probably has fuck-all to say about "collusion" with Russia ... because there was none, but probably has a lot to say about Podesta and others ALSO acting as undeclared agents for foreign interests)

... you're forgetting that there are OTHER investigations going on, including the one by the Senate, in which the aforementioned Lisa Page has apparently decided to sing like a bird (followed by Bruce and Nellie Ohr);

and the one by Huber, which has been going on very very quietly in the background. I wonder who Huber is interrogating as cooperative witnesses?

The whole lot of them including Obama and Hillary should be wrapped up in stinky paper towels and tossed into the kitchen trash.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 2:34 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ah. It's a financial investigation now. Got it.



You definitely don't "got it."

Financial ties = leverage, financial pain compliance, and favors for favors = collusion, conspiracy, and as RF says, can definitely equal Treason. Putting your financial dealings with other countries before your duty as president, for example. Repeatedly lying about those connections is obstruction and abuse of power. You probably don't/can't/won't see that either.



Like you did when it came to Clinton's financial ties, huh?

Oh, wait. The Russians hacked the DNC and Hillary's server, so that makes whatever was said in those emails null and void. Got it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Was Hillary Clinton's email server hacked?

All we know is that the FBI found no evidence of it being hacked. This does not mean it was not hacked. It just means that no one has any specific knowledge that it was.

https://www.quora.com/Was-Hillary-Clintons-email-server-hacked

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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 3:10 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Let's keep a few basic facts in mind:

The DNC server's contents were released by Wikileaks. Wikileaks got the contents directly from a NOT RUSSIAN, but someone who had legitimate access to the files ... ie, an insider. Until some investigator actually TALKS TO JULIAN ASSANGE, everything that everyone speculates about where the files came from is bullshit and garbage.

The FBI NEVER examined the DNC server, they just took the word of a DNC-paid computer firm that "the Russians did it". Ahem!

HILLARY's private server (a different matter altogether) on which she conducted State Department business and from which she BleachBitted 33,000 emails about "yoga pants" and "Chelsea's wedding" apparently had a foreign entity secretly added to the "distribution list", so SOME foreigner got copies of most or all of her emails in real time. Maybe is was China, maybe it was Israel. Some people speculate that this was done with Hillary's knowledge as some sort of "quid pro quo". Whatever happened, SOMEone should be investigating this.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 3:19 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Like you did when it came to Clinton's financial ties, huh?

Oh, wait. The Russians hacked the DNC and Hillary's server, so that makes whatever was said in those emails null and void. Got it.




Brilliant - Straight from the The Trump playbook for Stooges, 101. "The Hillary Dodge" - gee, never seen that one before. Bet you get a Trump Treat from SIGGY for that.



It's a legitimate question. You can use the reverse Hillary Dodge if you so choose, but that is only another exercise in ignoring your own hypocrisy.

Quote:

You definitely don't "got it."

Financial ties = leverage, financial pain compliance, and favors for favors = collusion, conspiracy, and as RF says, can definitely equal Treason. Putting your financial dealings with other countries before your duty as president, for example. Repeatedly lying about those connections is obstruction and abuse of power. You probably don't/can't/won't see that either.



Every single word of this can be applied to Hillary and Bill Clinton.




Whatever, keep me posted if she tries to run again.

They sure got you dancing and playing a banjo, don't they?

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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 3:21 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, while all of you libruls crow about how Manafort was pressured into cooperating with Mueller (and still probably has fuck-all to say about "collusion" with Russia ...



You didn't even complete a full sentence without proving yourself to be completely irrelevant - nice one, speedy.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 3:22 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Let's keep a few basic facts in mind:

The DNC server's contents were released by Wikileaks. Wikileaks got the contents directly from a NOT RUSSIAN, but someone who had legitimate access to the files ... ie, an insider. Until some investigator actually TALKS TO JULIAN ASSANGE, everything that everyone speculates about where the files came from is bullshit and garbage.

The FBI NEVER examined the DNC server, they just took the word of a DNC-paid computer firm that "the Russians did it". Ahem!

HILLARY's private server (a different matter altogether) on which she conducted State Department business and from which she BleachBitted 33,000 emails about "yoga pants" and "Chelsea's wedding" apparently had a foreign entity secretly added to the "distribution list", so SOME foreigner got copies of most or all of her emails in real time. Maybe is was China, maybe it was Israel. Some people speculate that this was done with Hillary's knowledge as some sort of "quid pro quo". Whatever happened, SOMEone should be investigating this.




Someone needs her binky and a time out.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 3:24 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Whatever, keep me posted if she tries to run again.
So, what IS the statute of limitations for influence-peddling thru the State Department, money-laundering billions of dollars thru a "charitable foundation", mishandling state secrets, and conspiring with foreign powers?

Inquiring minds want to know!

And cue the pointless personal attack in 3...2...1...
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Someone needs her binky and a time out.
I notice you do that every time you're confronted with undeniable facts. It's a pretty reliable indicator.


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Tuesday, September 18, 2018 3:36 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Like you did when it came to Clinton's financial ties, huh?

Oh, wait. The Russians hacked the DNC and Hillary's server, so that makes whatever was said in those emails null and void. Got it.




Brilliant - Straight from the The Trump playbook for Stooges, 101. "The Hillary Dodge" - gee, never seen that one before. Bet you get a Trump Treat from SIGGY for that.



It's a legitimate question. You can use the reverse Hillary Dodge if you so choose, but that is only another exercise in ignoring your own hypocrisy.

Quote:

You definitely don't "got it."

Financial ties = leverage, financial pain compliance, and favors for favors = collusion, conspiracy, and as RF says, can definitely equal Treason. Putting your financial dealings with other countries before your duty as president, for example. Repeatedly lying about those connections is obstruction and abuse of power. You probably don't/can't/won't see that either.



Every single word of this can be applied to Hillary and Bill Clinton.




Whatever, keep me posted if she tries to run again.



Why bother? It wouldn't dissuade you from voting for her if she runs again.

The point is that you are a hypocrite, and you believe everything that your liberal news tells you to believe.

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They sure got you dancing and playing a banjo, don't they?


Who's this "they" you're talking about?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, September 19, 2018 12:28 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ah. It's a financial investigation now. Got it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

For the moment.
The goal posts get moved tomorrow. The foul lines get moved too, but nobody will be told when or how much. The Strike Zone gets adjusted at the random whim of The Libtard Of The Day.

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Wednesday, September 19, 2018 7:54 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why bother? It wouldn't dissuade you from voting for her if she runs again.



I hate Hillary. She's not running again (thank gawd). I will vote for anyone but Trump if he makes it to 2020.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The point is that you are a hypocrite, and you believe everything that your liberal news tells you to believe.



That's like SIGGY wrong.
I must be missing something - what is "The Liberal News" telling me to believe about Hillary?
In the Real, Factual World, the Clintons have been in DC and in public office for decades and have never been found guilty of anything no matter what the Republicans have run at them.
But, since you have so much knowledge: If anyone has a case against the Clintons that can stick why haven't they been successfully prosecuted for it in all these years? Do you think those 8 to 10 Benghazi trails against Hillary were all legit?

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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They sure got you dancing and playing a banjo, don't they?


Who's this "they" you're talking about?



Whoever has convinced you to talk about Hillary and Obama instead of that fat lying f*cker who is our current president. Why waste our time on people that are in the past?

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Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:35 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Let's keep a few basic facts in mind:

Let's keep a few basic facts in mind:

In the roughly 21 months since he took the oath of office, Trump has sunk far below the already-low bar he set for himself in his ugly campaign. Exhibit A is the unspeakable cruelty that his administration has inflicted on undocumented families arriving at the border, including separating children, some as young as eight months, from their parents. According to The New York Times, the administration continues to detain 12,800 children right now, despite all the outcry and court orders. Then there’s the president’s monstrous neglect of Puerto Rico: After Hurricane Maria ravaged the island, his administration barely responded. Some 3,000 Americans died. Now Trump flatly denies those deaths were caused by the storm. And, of course, despite the recent indictments of several Russian military intelligence officers for hacking the Democratic National Committee in 2016, he continues to dismiss a serious attack on our country by a foreign power as a “hoax.”

www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/09/american-democracy-is-in-cri
sis/570394
/

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Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:23 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why bother? It wouldn't dissuade you from voting for her if she runs again.



I hate Hillary. She's not running again (thank gawd). I will vote for anyone but Trump if he makes it to 2020.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The point is that you are a hypocrite, and you believe everything that your liberal news tells you to believe.



That's like SIGGY wrong.
I must be missing something - what is "The Liberal News" telling me to believe about Hillary?
In the Real, Factual World, the Clintons have been in DC and in public office for decades and have never been found guilty of anything no matter what the Republicans have run at them.
But, since you have so much knowledge: If anyone has a case against the Clintons that can stick why haven't they been successfully prosecuted for it in all these years? Do you think those 8 to 10 Benghazi trails against Hillary were all legit?

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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They sure got you dancing and playing a banjo, don't they?


Who's this "they" you're talking about?



Whoever has convinced you to talk about Hillary and Obama instead of that fat lying f*cker who is our current president. Why waste our time on people that are in the past?



Because context matters.

Trump is president because of Hillary. Because of the Democratic party losing their way so much that Hillary was a thing. Trump would have lost to literally any other Democratic candidate the party could have presented.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:27 AM

THG


Continuing to bring up Clinton is a distraction attempt. It also shows those who attack her to be hypocrites of the worst kind because Trump makes her look like a nun.

T


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Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:42 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Continuing to bring up Clinton is a distraction attempt.
If you believe that Trump must be held accountable for whatever dirty business dealings he had in the past, then you must believe that Hillary (and Bill) ALSO must be held accountable for past crimes.

Right?

I mean, don't you think it's just a little bit hypocritical (AND STUPID) to be harping over what Trump did 30 years ago, and then (when it comes to the Clintons) try to convince us that it's all just water under the bridge? A little more honesty and intellectual rigor would be appreciated!



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Wednesday, September 19, 2018 11:40 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Continuing to bring up Clinton is a distraction attempt.
If you believe that Trump must be held accountable for whatever dirty business dealings he had in the past, then you must believe that Hillary (and Bill) ALSO must be held accountable for past crimes.

Right?

I mean, don't you think it's just a little bit hypocritical (AND STUPID) to be harping over what Trump did 30 years ago, and then (when it comes to the Clintons) try to convince us that it's all just water under the bridge? A little more honesty and intellectual rigor would be appreciated!




What I believe is backed up by facts. Republicans and right wing nuts accused and charged the Clintons with committing all kinds of crimes. Nothing except for Bill lying about an affair ever came of it. What I believe is you refuse to move on because hate, trolling and an inferiority complex motivates you, not perceived wrong doings. The proof of that is Trump.

Trump is responsible for so much worse. Just look at all the guilty pleas Mueller a Republican has garnered while perusing the truth of what is going on. Trump hired all these people. That makes him at best a moron. At worst a traitor. You and others here fain outrage about how these people came under investigation and got caught. Even though your assertions about that have been proven wrong repeatedly. And yet no outrage from you over the crimes they've committed. Nothing, that gives great insights into your character, or lack there of.

You continue to deny Russia's guilt of anything. What you do, despite all the evidence, is insist the Russian investigation is a farce. That and you continue to rehash or assign truth to many times disproven claims against the Clintons. No comrade sig, you're a troll and that's why despite all that's been reported and proven in the courts, you still take the positions you take.

Comrade

T


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Wednesday, September 19, 2018 2:59 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Continuing to bring up Clinton is a distraction attempt. It also shows those who attack her to be hypocrites of the worst kind because Trump makes her look like a nun.

T




I'm not even attacking her here other than to say that it is because of her that Trump is president, and had Trump ran against any other Democrat he would have lost.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, September 19, 2018 3:27 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I mean, don't you think it's just a little bit hypocritical (AND STUPID) to be harping over what Trump did 30 years ago...



Here we go again... who is doing that?

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Wednesday, September 19, 2018 3:32 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well SECOND, for one. Constantly. And THUGR always defends Hillary whenever anyone criticizes her. Just see his post (above)

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Wednesday, September 19, 2018 7:38 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well SECOND, for one. Constantly. And THUGR always defends Hillary whenever anyone criticizes her. Just see his post (above)




Neither actually. In second's case you mistake attacking Republicans as defending Hillary. Similar with T - pointing out your tired, obvious tactic of attacking Hillary to deflect from Trump - the most dangerous and incapable president ever - is not defending her. Once again, your logic is deeply flawed.

It's almost as if just causing friction and contrariness is all that matters with you. Huh....

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Wednesday, September 19, 2018 8:48 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well SECOND, for one. Constantly. And THUGR always defends Hillary whenever anyone criticizes her. Just see his post (above)




Neither actually. In second's case you mistake attacking Republicans as defending Hillary. Similar with T - pointing out your tired, obvious tactic of attacking Hillary to deflect from Trump - the most dangerous and incapable president ever - is not defending her. Once again, your logic is deeply flawed.

It's almost as if just causing friction and contrariness is all that matters with you. Huh....



Dead on G. Both of us have said again and again we hated Hillary. It's as you've said. Causing friction and being contrary is what trolls are about. Especially Russian trolls.

T


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Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


The new Leftist tactic seems to be moving the goalpost every single time they have anything to say. It's impossible to argue with somebody who can change their entire outlook on absolutely anything from moment to moment to suit their narrative.

It's also pointless. They stand for nothing. In lieu of any core values they have a bunch of empty feel good slogans. They're so hollow all you have to do now is sit back and watch them cave in on themselves.

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Thursday, September 20, 2018 8:34 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well SECOND, for one. Constantly. And THUGR always defends Hillary whenever anyone criticizes her. Just see his post (above)

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

From today's NYTimes an article of special significance for Signym and 1kiki:
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/09/20/us/politics/russia-trump-electi
on-timeline.html

A Timeline Showing the Full Scale of Russia’s Unprecedented Interference in the 2016 Election, and Its Aftermath

To me, the most interesting timeline is the one labeled "Denials of wrongdoing by Trump and associates". The denials from the GOP are getting steadily more and more frequent and louder as the history of Russia's Interference becomes more and more detailed. Normally, denials would get less and less frequent and softer as history becomes more detailed, but who thinks anything Trump does is normal?
Quote:

This timeline organizes the complex web of events into parallel threads to show a more complete picture, from the moment Donald J. Trump entered the presidential race to his nearly daily attacks on the Russia investigation as members of his inner circle were charged with crimes.
Quote:

NOVEMBER 2016 TO OCTOBER 2017
A Head-Spinning Start to the Trump Administration
Russia largely dominated the national political conversation after Mr. Trump was elected. American intelligence agencies concluded that President Vladimir V. Putin personally ordered the campaign to interfere in the election. Questionable transition contacts and accusations of attempts by Mr. Trump to kill the investigation come to light. Mr. Trump started posting hundreds of tweets that denied wrongdoing and attacked the investigation.

Quote:

NOVEMBER 2017 TO SEPTEMBER 2018
Trump’s Attacks on the Investigation Escalate as Federal Charges Pile Up
By mid-September, dozens of people had been charged by Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel investigating possible links between the Trump campaign and Russian officials, or because of investigations that stemmed from Mr. Mueller’s inquiry. Mr. Trump denied the validity of the investigation in at least 174 tweets over this period.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:03 AM

THG


Good article at the end of your link second.

tick tock

T


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Thursday, September 20, 2018 12:56 PM

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T





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Thursday, September 20, 2018 1:56 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


For Signym, 1kiki, and Putin:

On an October afternoon before the 2016 election, a huge banner was unfurled from the Manhattan Bridge in New York City: Vladimir V. Putin against a Russian-flag background, and the unlikely word “Peacemaker” below. It was a daredevil happy birthday to the Russian president, who was turning 64.

In November, shortly after Donald J. Trump eked out a victory that Moscow had worked to assist, an even bigger banner appeared, this time on the Arlington Memorial Bridge in Washington: the face of President Barack Obama and “Goodbye Murderer” in big red letters.

Police never identified who had hung the banners, but there were clues. The earliest promoters of the images on Twitter were American-sounding accounts, including @LeroyLovesUSA, later exposed as Russian fakes operated from St. Petersburg to influence American voters.

The Kremlin, it appeared, had reached onto United States soil in New York and Washington. The banners may well have been intended as visual victory laps for the most effective foreign interference in an American election in history.

For many Americans, the Trump-Russia story as it has been voluminously reported over the past two years is a confusing tangle of unfamiliar names and cyberjargon, further obscured by the shout-fest of partisan politics. What Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel in charge of the investigation, may know or may yet discover is still uncertain. President Trump’s Twitter outbursts that it is all a “hoax” and a “witch hunt,” in the face of a mountain of evidence to the contrary, have taken a toll on public comprehension.

But to travel back to 2016 and trace the major plotlines of the Russian attack is to underscore what we now know with certainty: The Russians carried out a landmark intervention that will be examined for decades to come. Acting on the personal animus of Mr. Putin, public and private instruments of Russian power moved with daring and skill to harness the currents of American politics. Well-connected Russians worked aggressively to recruit or influence people inside the Trump campaign.

More at www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/09/20/us/politics/russia-interference
-election-trump-clinton.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, September 20, 2018 2:04 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


For Signym, 1kiki and Putin:

The Plot to Subvert an Election

Nina L. Khrushcheva, a professor of international affairs at the New School and the great-granddaughter of the Soviet premier Nikita S. Khrushchev, said that what Russia pulled off, through creativity and sheer luck, would have been the envy of Mr. Putin’s predecessors: puncturing the American sense of superiority and insisting on Russia’s power and place in the world.

“This operation was to show the Americans — that you bastards are just as screwed up as the rest of us,” Professor Khrushcheva said. “Putin fulfilled the dream of every Soviet leader — to stick it to the United States. I think this will be studied by the K.G.B.’s successors for a very long time.”

More at www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/09/20/us/politics/russia-interference
-election-trump-clinton.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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