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Dom McGahn gettin' out while he can

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Wednesday, August 29, 2018 3:13 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/don-mcgahn-exit-mueller-invest
igation


"DON MCGAHN’S EXIT SIGNALS AN EXPLOSIVE NEW PHASE IN THE RUSSIA PROBE
With the White House counsel on his way out—and Jeff Sessions likely to follow—Trump is setting in motion a series of changes that could fundamentally alter the balance of power between the Justice Department and the president."

"The impending departure of White House general counsel Don McGahn, confirmed on Wednesday morning by Donald Trump, marks a potential sea change for the president as he turns toward a final battle with special counsel Robert Mueller. Earlier this month, The New York Times broke the news that McGahn had offered unusually extensive cooperation to Mueller’s team, testifying for more than 30 hours about the president’s behavior and state of mind during the firing of F.B.I. Director James Comey, as well as Trump’s efforts to shut down the Russia probe. Speculation immediately turned to how long McGahn would remain in his current role, given his apparent effort to inoculate himself from any criminal liability. “If true, it would raise the question of continued service in the position,” as Bob Bauer, who served in the same position under Barack Obama, told me at the time. “How does a lawyer maintain a professional relationship with a client he suspects of setting him up for criminal investigation, and perhaps prosecution?”

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So let's look at the timing... it just came out that McGahn gave Mueller 30 hours of testimony and now he informs the WH that he's leaving "in the fall." Interesting.

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Wednesday, August 29, 2018 3:53 PM

THG


I can't wait to find out what he was telling Mueller in those 30 hrs. of testimony.

T


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Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

So let's look at the timing... it just came out that McGahn gave Mueller 30 hours of testimony and now he informs the WH that he's leaving "in the fall." Interesting.



If Trump actually lets him stick around until the fall, then there's nothing here.

This is similar to how many companies will terminate your employment effective immediately even though you gave a two week notice if they know you're going to work for a competitor.

As we already know, Trump is not afraid of firing people who will make T say "See! Evidence!!!!".

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:42 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Ha - turns out he was pushed out the door, fired by tweet. Trump's new best way to fire someone because he doesn't have to face them - and probably while sitting on the can. This PoS is running out of people to fire.

https://wapo.st/2MCENgW

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Thursday, August 30, 2018 3:31 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


To really get the feel for the Trump administration’s end, we must turn to the finest political psychologist of them all, William Shakespeare. One of the nobles who has turned on their murderous usurper king describes Macbeth’s predicament:

Those he commands move only in command,

Nothing in love. Now does he feel his title

Hang loose about him, like a giant’s robe

Upon a dwarfish thief.

And so it will be for Trump. To be clear, these are very different people. Macbeth is a tragic and compelling figure. Unlike America’s germaphobic president, who copped five draft deferments, he is physically brave. He is faithful to his wife, has a conscience, knows guilt and remorse, and has self-knowledge. He also has a pretty good command of the English language. In all these respects he is as unlike Trump as one can be.

But in the moment of losing power, he will be like Macbeth. Where Nixon, who was a statesman, saw the inevitable and resigned, this president is more likely to go down spitting defiance.

More at www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/the-end-of-trumps-reign/5
68480
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, August 30, 2018 4:29 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


NPR disagrees with you.

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/30/643237020/alan-dershowitz-on-don-mcgahn

Quote:

Well, I think it has everything to do with the fact that he met with Mueller. How can you be represented or have your White House represented by somebody who might very well turn out to be a crucial witness against you? When you sit down for 30 hours with somebody whose goal it is to try to prosecute you or write a report against you or provide evidence for impeachment against you, inevitably that information will be used. Even if McGahn didn't deliberately incriminate the president, he's probably filled some gaps. He's probably provided them with some information - a meeting here and there - that they didn't know about that now they know about.

And the idea of getting advice from a lawyer who may be sitting opposite you in a courtroom seems to be that the writing was on the wall as soon as it was disclosed that he had such an extensive meeting with Mueller. I think the key question is not whether McGahn goes - of course, it was inevitable he would - it's who replaces him.



Supposedly McGahn told Trump that the investigation would blow over if he cooperated with Mueller. It didn't. What McGahn failed to realize what this wasn't a regular, normal investigation, it was a politically-motivated witch hunt, and NOTHING was going to make this investigation go away, not even lack of evidence.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Thursday, August 30, 2018 4:44 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Supposedly McGahn told Trump that the investigation would blow over if he cooperated with Mueller. It didn't. What McGahn failed to realize what this wasn't a regular, normal investigation, it was a politically-motivated witch hunt, and NOTHING was going to make this investigation go away, not even lack of evidence.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

Wrong as always, Signym. McGahn told Trump he would resign if Mueller was fired because that would be an admission that Trump was afraid of being found guilty. Since Trump is guilty of nothing, Trump should let the Mueller investigation burn until it collapses like an old house set on fire. But Trump better be sure there aren't any explosive crimes hidden somewhere in the house.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, August 30, 2018 6:22 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


Supposedly McGahn told Trump that the investigation would blow over if he cooperated with Mueller. It didn't. What McGahn failed to realize what this wasn't a regular, normal investigation, it was a politically-motivated witch hunt, and NOTHING was going to make this investigation go away, not even lack of evidence.





LOL! Witch hunt? That's hilarious! A Republican DOJ politically motivated to investigate a Republican? You're too funny, or maybe really that dumb.

Lack of evidence? Trump's going down, for sure. The only question is when.

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Thursday, August 30, 2018 7:47 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Supposedly McGahn told Trump that the investigation would blow over if he cooperated with Mueller. It didn't. What McGahn failed to realize what this wasn't a regular, normal investigation, it was a politically-motivated witch hunt, and NOTHING was going to make this investigation go away, not even lack of evidence.



Look who's been chugging the Fox Koolaid! China hacked Clinton's emails! QANON & the day of the awakening. Just as crazy as your master:

"When Lester Holt got caught fudging my tape on Russia, they were hurt badly!" - 'Rump

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Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:03 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You guys realize that you're not really losers, right?


I strongly suggest you try to disassociate your political viewpoints from who you see yourselves as.

You're behaving like losers.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:56 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You guys realize that you're not really losers, right?

Trump is worried about being blackmailed. What a loser.

Last week we all heard about “the safe,” the legendary repository of decades of dirt on Donald Trump that had been dug up and then faithfully reburied by the National Enquirer. Trump has always been interested in more than just paying hush money via the Enquirer to women he’s had affairs with. He wants the whole safe.

A question for 6ixStringJack: How nervous are you with the knowledge that reams of blackmail material exist that can be used against the president of the United States? For all anyone knows, the blackmail material has already been stolen. Does that bother you?

It seems to bother Trump.
Quote:

He and his lawyer at the time, Michael D. Cohen, devised a plan to buy up all the dirt on Mr. Trump that the National Enquirer and its parent company had collected on him, dating back to the 1980s, according to several of Mr. Trump’s associates….“It’s all the stuff — all the stuff, because you never know,” Mr. Cohen said on the recording.

The move by Mr. Trump and Mr. Cohen indicated just how concerned they were about all the information amassed by the company, American Media, and its chairman, David Pecker, a loyal Trump ally of two decades who has cooperated with investigators….There was perennial talk about American Media’s business troubles. And Mr. Trump appeared to take a world-wearier view of the wisdom of leaving his sensitive personal secrets in someone else’s hands:

“Maybe he gets hit by a truck,” Mr. Trump said of Mr. Pecker in a conversation with Mr. Cohen, musing about an unfortunate mishap befalling his good friend.

More at www.nytimes.com/2018/08/30/nyregion/trump-cohen-national-enquirer-amer
ican-media-recording.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, August 30, 2018 11:02 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Lack of evidence? Trump's going down, for sure. The only question is when.
2024?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Monday, December 10, 2018 2:16 PM

THG


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'Mika HUMILIATES Trump After Kasie REVEALS Russians Interacted W/ At Least 14 Trump Associates 2016





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Monday, December 10, 2018 3:45 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So?
Quote:


https://thehill.com/policy/international/323582-kremlin-spokesman-russ
ian-ambassador-met-with-advisers-to-clinton


Kremlin spokesman: Russian ambassador met with advisers to Clinton campaign too

Russian President Vladimir Putin's spokesman said in an interview Sunday that the Russian ambassador who met with Trump campaign officials also met with “people working in think tanks advising Hillary or advising people working for Hillary.”

“Well, if you look at some people connected with Hillary Clinton during her campaign, you would probably see that he had lots of meetings of that kind,” Dmitry Peskov told CNN “GPS” host Fareed Zakaria. “There are lots of specialists in politology, people working in think tanks advising Hillary or advising people working for Hillary.”

Peskov said it is the job of Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak to meet with officials on both sides to talk about “bilateral relations.”

more at the link

But we already know fusion GPS, paid by the DNC and the Clinton campaign, was in contact with 'Russians' to get dirt on Trump.
Quote:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaig
n-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html

Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier

Now that WAS actual collusion!






tic tac

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Monday, December 10, 2018 4:03 PM

THG


Clinton kiki, really? A Russian said Clinton did it and you're going with that? Of course, you're a Russian. I wonder if that's going to be Trumps defense. Clinton did it. I laughing again. No really, I am, I'm laughing again.

T



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Monday, December 10, 2018 5:40 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Clinton kiki, really? A Russian said Clinton did it and you're going with that? Of course, you're a Russian. I wonder if that's going to be Trumps defense. Clinton did it. I laughing again. No really, I am, I'm laughing again.

You really don't know how to read, do you?

Well, your loss.




tic tac

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Monday, December 10, 2018 6:36 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
NPR disagrees with you.

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/30/643237020/alan-dershowitz-on-don-mcgahn
Quote:

Well, I think it has everything to do with the fact that he met with Mueller. How can you be represented or have your White House represented by somebody who might very well turn out to be a crucial witness against you? When you sit down for 30 hours with somebody whose goal it is to try to prosecute you or write a report against you or provide evidence for impeachment against you, inevitably that information will be used. Even if McGahn didn't deliberately incriminate the president, he's probably filled some gaps. He's probably provided them with some information - a meeting here and there - that they didn't know about that now they know about.

And the idea of getting advice from a lawyer who may be sitting opposite you in a courtroom seems to be that the writing was on the wall as soon as it was disclosed that he had such an extensive meeting with Mueller. I think the key question is not whether McGahn goes - of course, it was inevitable he would - it's who replaces him.


Supposedly McGahn told Trump that the investigation would blow over if he cooperated with Mueller. It didn't. What McGahn failed to realize what this wasn't a regular, normal investigation, it was a politically-motivated witch hunt, and NOTHING was going to make this investigation go away, not even lack of evidence.

Did McGahn really say that?
What a ginormus simpleton. How did he not get fired right away?
Unbelievable how insipid he must be, if that really was his opinion.

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