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Libtard's Love Affair With Ultra Liberal RINO McCain

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Saturday, August 25, 2018 8:38 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I was watching a good TV Show, a rare experience, when ABC interrupted for more fawning over their favorite R-coded Libtard.

Some highlights:
I keep forgetting that he graduated the Naval Academy at the absolute bottom of his Class, despite having an Admiral father.

No mention of his accomplishment of being the only American in all of history to single-handed fatally damage, destroy and Decommission an entire Aircraft Carrier.




Such a complete failure all his life, but this can be accredited to his severe bout of Libtardism.

The worst self-claimed Republican has died. May he open his eyes soon.

Now so many Patriotic American Veterans can have a far less despising animosity towards GOP members. So many have felt stabbed in the back with every sighting of McCain, he has been a nonstop thorn in the side of Patriotic Veterans for so long.

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Saturday, August 25, 2018 8:51 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Geez.
Such a nonstop parade of MSM Libtards I have been able to avoid until now, forced to suffer these fools while waiting for a worthwhile airing of a show.


Although every single other channel has enough sense to not disrupt their scheduled programming, this is the only network with scheduled programming that is interesting.

And now they are into another hour of this crap.


What sappy bastards. You'd think their Hero Hitler or Stalin or Mussolini or Lenin had expired.


I only recognize the names of these Colossal Morons from their historic milestones of the most insipid of comments of this century.

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Sunday, August 26, 2018 2:28 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yanno, I have to wonder if he's really dead, or if this isn't some elaborate staging so he can get out of the upcoming inquisiti ... I mean, depositions. This reminds me a lot of the Iran-Contra affair .... as the investigation slowly wended its way up through Oliver North and John Poindexter, the last culminating piece of testimony from then-head of the CIA William Casey was lost when Casey conveniently died. Of a pneumonia caused by a brain tumor, they said.

https://www.nytimes.com/1987/05/07/obituaries/william-casey-ex-cia-hea
d-is-dead-at-74.html


We joked at the time that 3 oz of lead was a considerable-sized tumor!

I guess I was a cynic, even back then.

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Sunday, August 26, 2018 4:32 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, I have to wonder if he's really dead, or if this isn't some elaborate staging so he can get out of the upcoming inquisiti ... I mean, depositions. This reminds me a lot of the Iran-Contra affair .... as the investigation slowly wended its way up through Oliver North and John Poindexter, the last culminating piece of testimony from then-head of the CIA William Casey was lost when Casey conveniently died. Of a pneumonia caused by a brain tumor, they said.

https://www.nytimes.com/1987/05/07/obituaries/william-casey-ex-cia-hea
d-is-dead-at-74.html


We joked at the time that 3 oz of lead was a considerable-sized tumor!

I guess I was a cynic, even back then.

Do you think this is what prompted Slick Willie to off Ron Brown?
First, bullet to the brain pan to kill him, then crash the entire plane, with no survivors - oops, plane crash, nothing to see here folks, move along now, just ignore that man behind the curtain.

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Sunday, August 26, 2018 4:50 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


^ Deplorables

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Sunday, August 26, 2018 9:28 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Wednesday marks the 10th anniversary of John McCain unveiling Sarah Palin, a say-anything, gun-toting political neophyte, as his running mate in the 2008 presidential election. It delivered a short-term boost in the polls. But it also opened the Pandora’s box of populism.

“I don’t think he could have known it at the time but he took a disease that was running through the Republican party – anti-intellectualism, disrespect for facts – and he put it right at the center of the party,” said David Brooks.

McCain criticized Obama for associating with the 1960s radical William Ayers, claiming: “Mr Obama’s political career was launched in Mr Ayers’ living room.” McCain had spent the week “trying to portray Senator Barack Obama as a friend of terrorists who would drive the country into bankruptcy”, running campaign ads that hammered Obama as a “liar”.

Alaska governor Palin, nominee for vice-president, told the Republican convention: “I love those hockey moms. You know, they say the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick.” Her gaffes were quaint by Trumpian standards, but she had little grasp of policy, accused Obama of “palling around with terrorists” and paved the way for a grievance-fueled, celebrity-driven politics, later appearing in a reality TV show and as a pundit on Fox News.

McCain came to realize that Palin was a terrible mistake. In the HBO documentary, filmed as he was dying from brain cancer at his ranch in Sedona, Arizona, he made that confession.

Jeff Flake, McCain’s Republican colleague from Arizona, told the Guardian: “I don’t know if it would have made the difference in that election but the Palinization of politics kind of started there. It hasn’t been the best for the Republican party, I will say, but I don’t think he could have known. She was more a symptom of it than anything else.”

Subsequent years brought a toxic mix of cultural and economic resentment. What had seemed angry but marginal voices at those McCain campaign events moved center stage in the Republican party and found an unlikely tuning fork in a New York billionaire and reality TV star.

Future historians seeking to understand the man and his time will surely revisit that night in Dayton, when McCain forced a smile and introduced “the next vice-president of the United States, Governor Sarah Palin of the great state of Alaska”. They will consider what it foretold, and ponder why he opened the door to demagoguery in America.

More at www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/26/john-mccain-sarah-palin-donald
-trump


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, August 26, 2018 10:03 AM

THG


No ones perfect. Those who find nothing but fault about McCain at this point in time need to do some self-reflecting.

T


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Sunday, August 26, 2018 2:16 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

McCain had spent the week “trying to portray Senator Barack Obama as a (1) friend of terrorists who would (2) drive the country into bankruptcy”, running campaign ads that hammered Obama as a (3) “liar”.- SECOND
Well, ONE thing about McCain ... he was right on all three!!!

Quote:

^ Deplorables- GSTRING
Considering the source, I take that as a compliment.


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Sunday, August 26, 2018 2:25 PM

THG


Sig is still posting the propaganda about McCane. comrade...

T


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Sunday, August 26, 2018 2:30 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

]Originally posted by THG:
Sig is still posting the propaganda about McCane. comrade...




(1) If you're going to defend the man, at least spell his name correctly.
(2) It was SECOND who posted that article about McCain, not me. If you'll notice, I posted almost nothing about McCain except to make a sarcastic comment that wasn't even serious.
(3) And HEY!! I AGREED with McCain! Some people [that's you, THUGR] apparently can't even take "yes" for an answer!!




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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Sunday, August 26, 2018 3:04 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If you're going to defend the man, at least spell his name correctly.



My bad. I thought this was a Simpson's thread.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, August 26, 2018 3:09 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Considering the source, I take that as a compliment.



For you, is compliment!

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Sunday, August 26, 2018 3:09 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Too funny!!

I don't know what THUGR wants. Maybe that I shed a few crocodile tears over the passing of a man who was all war, all the time? A moment's reflection on his life?

Ok.

A moment ....

... that's enough.

We ALL reach the same end sooner or later. It's what we do in-between that counts. I felt worse hearing about Koko's death than McCain's; she was a far better person than he was, and she was a gorilla.



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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Sunday, August 26, 2018 3:49 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Oh. That's what this thread is about.

I literally didn't know he died until about 10 seconds before writing this post and reading your comment Sigs.

Bummer for some, I'm sure.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, August 26, 2018 3:55 PM

THG


Trolls will be trolls. And to you I say, tick tock

T


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Sunday, August 26, 2018 5:46 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Too funny!!

I don't know what THUGR wants. Maybe that I shed a few crocodile tears over the passing of a man who was all war, all the time? A moment's reflection on his life?

Ok.

A moment ....

... that's enough.

We ALL reach the same end sooner or later. It's what we do in-between that counts. I felt worse hearing about Koko's death than McCain's; she was a far better person than he was.



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876]




Much of this speech is directed directly at the likes of Jack, Sig, kiki, and JSF. Let me say it for John here,
you guys...…. T



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Sunday, August 26, 2018 6:51 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Too funny!!

I don't know what THUGR wants. Maybe that I shed a few crocodile tears over the passing of a man who was all war, all the time? A moment's reflection on his life?

Ok.

A moment ....

... that's enough.

We ALL reach the same end sooner or later. It's what we do in-between that counts. I felt worse hearing about Koko's death than McCain's; she was a far better person than he was.



Yup. Remember what a bad guy McCain was when he ran against Obama?

I mean, he was...

It just seems that a lot of people forgot about that since he had a few unkind words here and there about and to Donald Trump.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, August 26, 2018 9:58 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm not sure if T's been a member of the site long enough since he's among those who constantly change their name around here for one reason or another, but if he was, I think this would be an interesting experiment.

I'd love to know what both T and JSF had to say about McCain in the months leading up to the 2008 election and compare those thoughts to these voiced in 2018.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, August 26, 2018 10:59 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


After a lifetime of blaming everybody else for all of his endless failures and incompetence, he finally ran out of blame to spread.



Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh. That's what this thread is about.

I literally didn't know he died until about 10 seconds before writing this post and reading your comment Sigs.

Bummer for some, I'm sure.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You didn't read the OP?

Where I said he died?

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Sunday, August 26, 2018 11:06 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not sure if T's been a member of the site long enough since he's among those who constantly change their name around here for one reason or another, but if he was, I think this would be an interesting experiment.

I'd love to know what both T and JSF had to say about McCain in the months leading up to the 2008 election and compare those thoughts to these voiced in 2018.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It shouldn't be too hard to find my posts from that time. That was a decision I had to think about. If Palin had been at the top of the ticket, I certainly would have voted GOP for the only time since 1984. Similar to 2012, when I would have voted for Ryan if he had the top of the ticket.
I seem to recall recently noticing some posts from Thuggri from that time - but they may have been only viewed as quotes when others replied to him/her, the original posts might have all been deleted/removed from the threads I was looking at.



I just noticed that 1984 was the only Election that I voted GOP.

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Monday, August 27, 2018 5:55 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


What I remember about McCain is that there was never a war that he didn't like. I don't recall him voting or speaking out against ANY war.

On the contrary, wherever McCain went abroad, civil war or destabilization was sure to follow. Kosovo, Georgia, Ukraine ... it was so consistent that we got to calling McCain "storm crow" and every time he went and visited some hapless nation we'd start taking bets on when violence would break out. McCain must have had an "in" with the CIA, because he sure seemed to be the public face for their "destabilization" events, particularly in Europe.

What I find so annoying is that all of the so-called "antifa" supporters here on this board who are so defensive of McCain's "legacy" seem to forget that McCain was a great supporter of Nazis in Ukraine. And no, I don't mean people who liberals here CHOOSE to (erroneously) call "Nazis", I mean real dyed-in-the-wool Nazis whose political lineage harkens back to Stepan Bandera, famous Ukrainian Nazi.





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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Monday, August 27, 2018 1:41 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not sure if T's been a member of the site long enough since he's among those who constantly change their name around here for one reason or another, but if he was, I think this would be an interesting experiment.

I'd love to know what both T and JSF had to say about McCain in the months leading up to the 2008 election and compare those thoughts to these voiced in 2018.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It shouldn't be too hard to find my posts from that time. That was a decision I had to think about. If Palin had been at the top of the ticket, I certainly would have voted GOP for the only time since 1984. Similar to 2012, when I would have voted for Ryan if he had the top of the ticket.
I seem to recall recently noticing some posts from Thuggri from that time - but they may have been only viewed as quotes when others replied to him/her, the original posts might have all been deleted/removed from the threads I was looking at.



I just noticed that 1984 was the only Election that I voted GOP.

JEWELSTAITEFAN Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:45 PM
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=32594&mid=58378
5#583785


Conservatives don't like McRINO because he is the opposite of a conservative.
I will not vote for him. This is almost as bad as 1976.
I will have to get my sample ballot early and check into all the choices.
Remember, if a 3rd party gets a certain percentage of the vote, they start to get campaign funding and other election benefits during the next election cycle.
If the Republican party refuses to produce an acceptable candidate, it would seem that it is time to vote for a conservative or libertarian party candidate.

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Monday, August 27, 2018 2:18 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

If the Republican party refuses to produce an acceptable candidate, it would seem that it is time to vote for a conservative or libertarian party candidate.
Huh. You have both on your ballot? I think I know who the Libertarians are, but who represents a "conservative" party in Arizona? (Also, don't you live in Texas?)

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Monday, August 27, 2018 2:33 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
(Also, don't you live in Texas?)

You mean SECOND is a lying sack of shit? Who would have guessed?




THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

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Monday, August 27, 2018 2:59 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
(Also, don't you live in Texas?)

You mean SECOND is a lying sack of shit? Who would have guessed?




THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

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Monday, August 27, 2018 3:37 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


I think you are seriously confused, maybe even on the wrong forum...

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What I find so annoying is that all of the so-called "antifa" supporters here on this board...



And who would they be?

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
... who are so defensive of McCain's "legacy"...



And who would they be?

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
....seem to forget that McCain was a great supporter of Nazis in Ukraine. And no, I don't mean people who liberals here CHOOSE to (erroneously) call "Nazis"...



And who would they be?

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
... I mean real dyed-in-the-wool Nazis whose political lineage harkens back to Stepan Bandera, famous Ukrainian Nazi.



Wow, 1 picture of McCain in a room with somebody - that seals it! He must have been a Nazi!


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Monday, August 27, 2018 3:55 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
After a lifetime of blaming everybody else for all of his endless failures and incompetence, he finally ran out of blame to spread.



Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh. That's what this thread is about.

I literally didn't know he died until about 10 seconds before writing this post and reading your comment Sigs.

Bummer for some, I'm sure.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You didn't read the OP?

Where I said he died?



The thread title didn't exactly scream "eulogy".

I tuned out after "Libtard", just like 90% of the rest of the world does when somebody uses that word.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 27, 2018 4:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


GSTRING: If by now you don't know, then you've either been stuck on a remote isle with no communication for four (or more) years, or you've had your fingers stuck in your ears whining la-la-la-I-can't-hear-you for at least that long. Most likely, the latter.

KIKI: There are only two authentic things about SECOND - the Jehovah's Witness-sized stick up his ass, and his hatred of everybody who isn't him.

SIX: I agree. Names like "libtard" just turn people off. There is nothing genuine or honest about labeling people like that when you're in a personal discussion with them. If you're discussing things with somebody, you should RESPOND TO WHAT THE PERSON SAYS, not to some cardboard-cutout that you carry around in your head.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Monday, August 27, 2018 4:30 PM

THG


I know others here remembering sig posting fake pictures. She makes a habit of it. Lets see your source for the pictures you are posting about McCain comrade troll. You are one sick bitch.

T


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Monday, August 27, 2018 4:42 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


THUGR: You are one ignorant dupe. You, along with GSTRING, make quite a pair of ignoramuses.

Quote:

John McCain Went To Ukraine And Stood On Stage With A Man Accused Of Being An Anti-Semitic Neo-Nazi



If you want a good picture of how complicated the situation in Ukraine is, look no further than Senator John McCain's recent trip to Kyiv.

You see, while the former presidential hopeful's weekend trip was full of pro-Europe sound bites — "Ukraine will make Europe better and Europe will make Ukraine better," he told a crowd in Kyiv's central Maidan square on Saturday— and warnings of stern reactions from the U.S. should Ukraine use violence against the protesters, there's another detail to it that might cause McCain fans at home some concern.

As the U.K.'s Channel 4 news points out, McCain was repeatedly photographed with Oleh Tyahnybok, the leader of the right wing nationalist party Svoboda...

As Max Fisher of the Washington Post has noted, the situation in Ukraine is amplified by numerous ethnic and linguistic issues that tie into a not-always-pretty history of nationalism and subjugation. In the past, McCain has sometimes revealed a simplistic, Cold War viewpoint of Russia. You have to wonder if, by going to Ukraine and standing on stage with a man accused of being an anti-Semitic neo-Nazi, he may have shown that trait again.


https://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-meets-oleh-tyahnybok-in-uk
raine-2013-12


Now, about Svoboda and Tyahnybok

Quote:

The Dark Side of the Ukraine Revolt

While most of the Western media describe the current crisis in Ukraine as a confrontation between authoritarianism and democracy, many of the shock troops who have manned barricades in Kiev and the western city of Lviv these past months represent a dark page in the country’s history and have little interest in either democracy or the liberalism of Western Europe and the United States.

“You’d never know from most of the reporting that far-right nationalists and fascists have been at the heart of the protests and attacks on government buildings,” reports Seumas Milne of the British Guardian. The most prominent of the groups has been the ultra-right-wing Svoboda or “Freedom” Party ...

Svoboda—which currently has thirty-six deputies in the 450-member Ukrainian parliament—began life in the mid-1990s as the Social National Party of the Ukraine, but its roots lie in World War II, when Ukrainian nationalists and Nazis found common ground in the ideology of anti-communism and anti-Semitism ...

Tyahnybok is an anti-Semite who says “organized Jewry” controls the Ukraine’s media and government, and is planning “genocide” against Christians. He has turned Svoboda into the fourth-largest party in the country, and, this past December, US Senator John McCain shared a platform and an embrace with Tyahnybok at a rally in Kiev.


https://www.thenation.com/article/dark-side-ukraine-revolt/

Now, sometimes political parties outgrow their roots and their leaders change positions, but up until the point when I stopped following him, Tyahnybok was still decidedly Nazi.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Monday, August 27, 2018 4:48 PM

THG


Fist of all sig you sick bitch. McCain was in the Ukraine and most likely didn't have a clue as to who the man was, and what if anything his affiliations were to Nazis.

Most of those he met with were more than likely shady characters. McCain's goal was to halt the dictator Putin and the Russians.

And I quote the article, "If you want a good picture of how complicated the situation in Ukraine is, look no further than Senator John McCain's recent trip to Kyiv. "

T


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Monday, August 27, 2018 4:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Regardless of anything else, I know for a fact that in 2008 the last thing in the world that T was calling McCain was a "hero". I'll bet Auraptor probably did, but not T.

That's the problem with being as hypocritical as the modern Left is today. You force yourself to have an extremely short term memory to make things like this work out.

I applaud the mental gymnastics.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 27, 2018 5:58 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Regardless of anything else, I know for a fact that in 2008 the last thing in the world that T was calling McCain was a "hero". I'll bet Auraptor probably did, but not T.

That's the problem with being as hypocritical as the modern Left is today. You force yourself to have an extremely short term memory to make things like this work out.

I applaud the mental gymnastics.- SIX


It was a double salto with a double twist! But, did he stick the landing???

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Monday, August 27, 2018 6:00 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Fist [sic] of all sig you sick bitch. McCain was in the Ukraine and most likely didn't have a clue as to who the man was, and what if anything his affiliations were to Nazis. Most of those he met with were more than likely shady characters. McCain's goal was to halt the dictator Putin and the Russians.
THEN MAYBE HE SHOULD HAVE DONE HIS DUE DILIGENCE AND MADE SURE THAT HE WASN'T PROMOTING SOMETHING AS BAD AS PUTIN, IF NOT WORSE.

Either he was a full retread ... like you ... or he was pro-Nazi. You can't have both.

My god, you're one "low-information" poster with equally low standards for your "heroes"! If I could find out in LA who this person was, and I don't even have "staffers" to do my research for me or any sort of security clearance, then don't you think McCain should have known/ already DID know? But it was the same wherever he went: Buddying up to tyrants, nazis and terrorists.

Photo of McCain with terrorists
Quote:

The photo of John McCain posing with terrorists and kidnappers in Syria encapsulates, perfectly, everything wrong with the position of McCain and others that the U.S. ought to insert itself into Syria’s civil war.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-soltz/mccain-poses-with-terrori_b_3
360762.html


Photo of McCain with Saakashvilli, who was later convicted of corruption by Georgia
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/07/05/neo-saakashvili-and-the-chech
ens-in-ukraine
/

EDITED TO ADD: Yanno, all of this stuff about nazis in Ukraine came out in the many discussions here on this very board. CLEARLY you shut your eyes and plugged your ears to information that you "DIDN'T LIKE". My god, you are so many kinds of deliberately-stupid I don't even know where to begin the description.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Monday, August 27, 2018 7:37 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I read a joke about McCain. It went like this: the line of people waiting to piss on his grave was so long it was getting the attention of the local police.






THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

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Monday, August 27, 2018 7:52 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

If the Republican party refuses to produce an acceptable candidate, it would seem that it is time to vote for a conservative or libertarian party candidate.
Huh. You have both on your ballot? I think I know who the Libertarians are, but who represents a "conservative" party in Arizona? (Also, don't you live in Texas?)

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

Signym, you are pretty pitiful at understanding what you are reading because those were not my words, but the words of JEWELSTAITEFAN, Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:45 PM
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=32594&mid=58378
5#583785


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, August 27, 2018 7:56 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Signym, you are pretty pitiful at understanding what you are reading because those were not my words, but the words of JEWELSTAITEFAN, Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:45 PM
SECOND, apparently you don't know how to use the 'quote" function properly because IF YOU DID then the words you quoted would have been in quote format.

I've asked you a couple of times already to use the "quote" format when you're quoting someone because it's very hard to tell when you're posting your words or kiping someone else's. I guess clarity doesn't mean much to you because you simply can't be bothered. But then, with all of the snakes crawling around in your head, clarity is something you probably fear.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Monday, August 27, 2018 8:16 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

If the Republican party refuses to produce an acceptable candidate, it would seem that it is time to vote for a conservative or libertarian party candidate.
Huh. You have both on your ballot? I think I know who the Libertarians are, but who represents a "conservative" party in Arizona? (Also, don't you live in Texas?)

Although I concede that second is not adept at interwebs syntax, I believe that is a quote from me in Feb 2008 (before Palin was selected).
I am not in Texas or Arizona. McRINO was on the national ballot in 2008.
IIRC the ballot in 2000 had 22 different candidates and Parties solely for the race for President. IIRC each Election since then has had both Conservatives and Libertarians on my ballot.

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Monday, August 27, 2018 8:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I just go off the assumption that unless Second is making a personal insult to somebody here or reminding us of how successful and awesome he is then everything else he posts here is somebody else's words.

Most of the time when you click one of his links everything that he put in the post that wasn't in one of the above categories was from the link word for word even though it wasn't quoted.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 27, 2018 9:01 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I just go off the assumption that unless Second is making a personal insult to somebody here or reminding us of how successful and awesome he is then everything else he posts here is somebody else's words.

Most of the time when you click one of his links everything that he put in the post that wasn't in one of the above categories was from the link word for word even though it wasn't quoted.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Had you forgotten that second is an Ultra Libtard?
Stealing from everybody else is their stock in trade. Even if he only stole somebody else's words, fair certain he didn't pay anybody anything for them.
Liberals assume everybody else's product is theirs for the taking.

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Monday, August 27, 2018 9:06 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
I read a joke about McCain. It went like this: the line of people waiting to piss on his grave was so long it was getting the attention of the local police.



THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

My heart bleeds for those long sufferers finally getting that relief. That is not sarcasm.

I recall when Dale Earnhardt bit it, and I knew where to go for free food and parties - over 2 weeks of free food and drinks (and easy women). Food in my fridge went to waste, since I didn't know he would kill himself when I last went shopping.
I wonder if the same is happening now - it is the loose Liberal bimbos who were his fans, but Conservative women who rightly despised him.

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Monday, August 27, 2018 9:19 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not sure if T's been a member of the site long enough since he's among those who constantly change their name around here for one reason or another, but if he was, I think this would be an interesting experiment.

I'd love to know what both T and JSF had to say about McCain in the months leading up to the 2008 election and compare those thoughts to these voiced in 2018.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It shouldn't be too hard to find my posts from that time. That was a decision I had to think about. If Palin had been at the top of the ticket, I certainly would have voted GOP for the only time since 1984. Similar to 2012, when I would have voted for Ryan if he had the top of the ticket.
I seem to recall recently noticing some posts from Thuggri from that time - but they may have been only viewed as quotes when others replied to him/her, the original posts might have all been deleted/removed from the threads I was looking at.



I just noticed that 1984 was the only Election that I voted GOP.

JEWELSTAITEFAN Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:45 PM
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=32594&mid=58378
5#583785


Conservatives don't like McRINO because he is the opposite of a conservative.
I will not vote for him. This is almost as bad as 1976.
I will have to get my sample ballot early and check into all the choices.
Remember, if a 3rd party gets a certain percentage of the vote, they start to get campaign funding and other election benefits during the next election cycle.
If the Republican party refuses to produce an acceptable candidate, it would seem that it is time to vote for a conservative or libertarian party candidate.

Just to affirm, I don't see any word that I would use differently today, 10 1/2 years later. Other that Palin throwing a wrench in, forcing me to carefully and in-depth review my decision. IIRC I may have been less ridiculing of the GOP after Palin was on the ticket, just in case others considered Voting for her.

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Tuesday, August 28, 2018 9:16 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I just go off the assumption that unless Second is making a personal insult to somebody here or reminding us of how successful and awesome he is then everything else he posts here is somebody else's words.

Most of the time when you click one of his links everything that he put in the post that wasn't in one of the above categories was from the link word for word even though it wasn't quoted.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Did you ever notice you have a garbage can full of grievances against your betters? That explains EVERYTHING about you. There is article about that: Two funerals and a wedding - The shunning of Donald Trump. It is about why fucked-up-in-the-head people see Trump as their Savior. They have been shunned for years by their betters, as has Trump, most recently when he was told to stay away from McCain's funeral.

More at www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-pariah-20180827-story.html

"Trump shouldn't be disappointed, because in many ways he's asked for it." 6ix, you asked for people to kick your ass because it is large, slow, and blocking the way. Exactly like Trump's enormous ass. I look forward to many more years of Trump being butt-booted but staying in position, unmovable but angry and irritated with each new kick. So much low entertainment, now that Firefly is dead all these years, watching the white middle classes get angrier and angrier and responding poorer and poorer, never understanding that their problems are mostly their own fault, not the government's. Trump can't fix what is wrong with his voters and they will never believe it is them, not government, that Made America Less Than Great. If they want MAGA, they will have to make themselves great, first, not the unrealistic way where Trump makes worthless promises to do the work for them.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 28, 2018 10:12 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Did you ever notice you have a garbage can full of grievances against your betters? That explains EVERYTHING about you. There is article about that: Two funerals and a wedding - The shunning of Donald Trump. It is about why fucked-up-in-the-head people see Trump as their Savior. They have been shunned for years by their betters, as has Trump, most recently when he was told to stay away from McCain's funeral. - SECONDRATE


Quote:

I just go off the assumption that unless Second is making a personal insult to somebody here or reminding us of how successful and awesome he is then everything else he posts here is somebody else's words. - SUX
Well, SIX, I'd say SECOND just did an EXCELLENT job of fulfilling your description! Even when he is told in the plainest possible terms how he is an a-hole, he. just. can't. help. himself.


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Tuesday, August 28, 2018 10:23 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The photo of John McCain posing with terrorists and kidnappers in Syria encapsulates, perfectly, everything wrong with the position of McCain and others that the U.S. ought to insert itself into Syria’s civil war.



You call that posing?? You're so desperate it's embarrassing.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
EDITED TO ADD: Yanno, all of this stuff about nazis in Ukraine came out in the many discussions here on this very board. CLEARLY you shut your eyes and plugged your ears to information that you "DIDN'T LIKE". My god, you are so many kinds of deliberately-stupid I don't even know where to begin the description.



I absolutely remember you giving us all a laugh when you tried to use the same "random single image theory" to smear a Ukrainian official. You showed what you thought was him doing a nazi salute. You thought you had him red handed! I'm wheezing thinking of how that blew up in your face. Then we quickly found images of many other recent politicians doing what looked like a nazi salute. Hi-larious! Turns out you can catch almost any public speaker in what looks like that pose. Amazing, huh?

You want real images of politicians posing with real terrorists? How many are there of Trump with Putin?

Fwiw in case your feeble mind can hold a fact for more than 24 hours... I am not defending McCain. Never have, never will. He brought us Palin - and that was the beginning of the decline.

Now, how about we discuss your recent decline? I'll ask again:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What I find so annoying is that all of the so-called "antifa" supporters here on this board...

And who would they be?

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
... who are so defensive of McCain's "legacy"...

And who would they be?

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
....seem to forget that McCain was a great supporter of Nazis in Ukraine. And no, I don't mean people who liberals here CHOOSE to (erroneously) call "Nazis"...

And who would they be?

Easy, right?

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Tuesday, August 28, 2018 10:44 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

The photo of John McCain posing with terrorists and kidnappers in Syria encapsulates, perfectly, everything wrong with the position of McCain and others that the U.S. ought to insert itself into Syria’s civil war.
You call that posing?? You're so desperate it's embarrassing.- GSTRING

No, son, I didn't call it "posing", the article did.

Quote:

EDITED TO ADD: Yanno, all of this stuff about nazis in Ukraine came out in the many discussions here on this very board. CLEARLY you shut your eyes and plugged your ears to information that you "DIDN'T LIKE". My god, you are so many kinds of deliberately-stupid I don't even know where to begin the description. - SIGNY

I absolutely remember you giving us all a laugh when you tried to use the same "random single image theory" to smear a Ukrainian official. You showed what you thought was him doing a nazi salute. You thought you had him red handed! I'm wheezing thinking of how that blew up in your face.

Well, I said YOU and THUGR make a dynamic duo of idiots, and I was right, because there you go AGAIN ... plugging your ears and whining la-la-la I can't hear you along with your idiot friend.

Tyahnybok's Nazi tendencies are WELL KNOWN, THEY ARE A MATTER OF RECORD. Do you think that when you plug your ears and close your eyes the real world goes away?

It's coming to get you, son. It will find you no matter how hard you shut your eyes.
BOO!!!





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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Tuesday, August 28, 2018 11:20 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I just go off the assumption that unless Second is making a personal insult to somebody here or reminding us of how successful and awesome he is then everything else he posts here is somebody else's words.

Most of the time when you click one of his links everything that he put in the post that wasn't in one of the above categories was from the link word for word even though it wasn't quoted.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Did you ever notice you have a garbage can full of grievances against your betters? That explains EVERYTHING about you. There is article about that: Two funerals and a wedding - The shunning of Donald Trump. It is about why fucked-up-in-the-head people see Trump as their Savior. They have been shunned for years by their betters, as has Trump, most recently when he was told to stay away from McCain's funeral.

More at www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-pariah-20180827-story.html

"Trump shouldn't be disappointed, because in many ways he's asked for it." 6ix, you asked for people to kick your ass because it is large, slow, and blocking the way. Exactly like Trump's enormous ass. I look forward to many more years of Trump being butt-booted but staying in position, unmovable but angry and irritated with each new kick. So much low entertainment, now that Firefly is dead all these years, watching the white middle classes get angrier and angrier and responding poorer and poorer, never understanding that their problems are mostly their own fault, not the government's. Trump can't fix what is wrong with his voters and they will never believe it is them, not government, that Made America Less Than Great. If they want MAGA, they will have to make themselves great, first, not the unrealistic way where Trump makes worthless promises to do the work for them.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



I don't have any betters.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, August 28, 2018 12:24 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I didn't call it "posing", the article did.



Ok.

So back to your recent decline... I'll ask again:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What I find so annoying is that all of the so-called "antifa" supporters here on this board...

And who would they be?

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
... who are so defensive of McCain's "legacy"...

And who would they be?

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
....seem to forget that McCain was a great supporter of Nazis in Ukraine. And no, I don't mean people who liberals here CHOOSE to (erroneously) call "Nazis"...

And who would they be?

Should be an easy thing to answer, right? Unless you are just lying, er, making sh*t up of course.

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Tuesday, August 28, 2018 12:53 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


GSTRING, your questions are disingenuous. You can badger me all you want, but I'm not about to answer stupid questions. People here who support antifa AND McCain? They know who they are. If you don't think it applies to you, then you don't have to get all huffy and defensive; just ignore it.


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Tuesday, August 28, 2018 7:30 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Just to get back to the title about McCain being a 'libtard' hero - I'm not quite sure what qualifies him as one, besides being on board with every globalist 'intervention' ever proposed - whether it was Bill's 'intervention' in Yugoslavia, or Dubya's 'interventions' in Afghanistan and Iraq, or Obama's 'interventions' in Ukraine, Libya and Syria.

But the republicans didn't move their position on sending the US into foreign affairs, it was the democrats. During Vietnam they tried being the peace party, but they realized it cost them votes, because they didn't know how to sell the brand. So they circled around behind our backs and stopped being the semi-isolationist liberal peace party, and became the 'interventionist' 'neo'-liberal war party instead.

If that's the equivalence that makes McCain a 'libtard' hero - all those foreign 'interventions - maybe it does more to make Hillary a 'neo'-con DINO hero instead.




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