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Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:57 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, July 22, 2018 2:39 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/07/20/gallup-poll-russian-meddling-near-the-bottom-of-american-concerns-immigration-at-the-top Gallup poll: Russian meddling near the bottom of American concerns; immigration at the top https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-trump-putin-meeting-helsinki-summit-russia-election-meddling/ CBS News poll: Most Americans disapprove of Trump's handling of Putin summit https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/02/26/russia-americans-trust-special-counsel-mueller-more-than-trump-usa-today-poll-shows/371345002/ On Russia, Americans trust special counsel Mueller more than Trump, USA TODAY poll shows https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/18/poll-russia-meddling-election-mueller-investigation-730529 Poll: 60 percent of Americans say Russia meddled in 2016 election https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/27/17057764/poll-trump-election-meddling-russia-interference Most Americans are worried about Russian election meddling — and think Trump isn’t taking it seriously Americans don’t trust Trump, Congress, or Facebook to solve the Russia interference problem.
Sunday, July 22, 2018 6:19 PM
Sunday, July 22, 2018 7:08 PM
REAVERFAN
Monday, July 23, 2018 3:16 AM
WISHIMAY
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Would you translate that last line for us, kiki?
Monday, July 23, 2018 7:25 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Monday, July 23, 2018 8:03 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Monday, July 23, 2018 8:51 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: After reading from a script last week like some errant 5 year old having to make restitution for breaking his neighbor's windows, Trump is back this week to "it could have been anybody." Even while trying to concede that his Intelligence Angencies were right, even after commending them, "my guys are great," he contradicted their findings and himself AGAIN by saying, "or it could have been someone else." There are only a few plausible reasons for this obvious effed up behavior: 1. dementia. 2. Compulsive liar 3. Fear of what Putin/Russia would do to him if he doesn't behave and follow their directives 4. An asteroid is going to hit the earth within the next 5 years and there's nothing we can do about it. 5. We are all Russian citizens already and there's nothing we can do about it.
Monday, July 23, 2018 9:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Trump doesn't need any money.
Monday, July 23, 2018 9:42 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Trump doesn't need any money. Yeah - you don't understand a core motivation of what makes Trump Trump. It's always about the money. For him, his bank account directly equates to how Great he thinks he is.
Monday, July 23, 2018 11:28 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Monday, July 23, 2018 1:09 PM
THG
Monday, July 23, 2018 4:51 PM
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Monday, July 23, 2018 6:02 PM
Monday, July 23, 2018 8:13 PM
Monday, July 23, 2018 9:50 PM
Quote:Sig suggests that nobody here really knows what Trump is doing.
Monday, July 23, 2018 11:41 PM
Tuesday, July 24, 2018 6:37 AM
Quote: Do you think kiki knows she is an audience of one.
Tuesday, July 24, 2018 10:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: All you "know" is what the media has told you, which is 45% nothing-burger, 45% breathless hysteria, 5% heavily-selected "facts" and 5% lies. You're triggered by everything he tweets and have lost sight of important trends.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: N Korea is dismantling their nuclear facilities. Did you know that?
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Peace is about to break out in Syria, which Israel is going to recognize.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The NATO nations might, for the first time ever, be required to ante up their share of the bill for "mutual" self-defense.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Now, there are a lot of things that Trump is doing (such as the "trickle-down" tax cut and environmental policy) which I strongly disagree with. I think we urgently need a return to Glass Steagall.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: But my disapproval of Trump, like my disapproval of Bill Clinton, has nothing to do with RUSSIA!!! or personal foibles or even financial crimes, but with POLICY ... something that you seem to be entirely unfamiliar with.
Tuesday, July 24, 2018 11:14 AM
Quote:All you "know" is what the media has told you, which is 45% nothing-burger, 45% breathless hysteria, 5% heavily-selected "facts" and 5% lies. You're triggered by everything he tweets and have lost sight of important trends. - SIGNY To be fair and accurate, we can only know what we know. Unless you are getting classified briefings then you are largely in the "educated guesses" category like the rest of us. And you don't know what our sources are, though you will lie about them to help make you feel better. Our president is dedicated a Fux New viewer and is proud of not reading, so most of us are miles ahead of him.
Quote: N Korea is dismantling their nuclear facilities. Did you know that? - SIGNY I did not know that, and you don't either. - CC
Quote:Peace is about to break out in Syria, which Israel is going to recognize. SIGNY I did not know either of those, and neither do you.- CC
Quote:Analysis Russia-Israel Deal Is Clear: Iran Away From Border, Assad’s Rule Accepted
Quote:Assad eyes victory as Syrian rebels poised to leave Golan Heights Defeated Syrian rebels near the border with the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights are preparing to evacuate the region and cede control of the frontier to Bashar al-Assad, securing a key victory for the Syrian president, whose forces are on the verge of concluding a swift campaign to reclaim control of southern Syria. Under the deal, the Syrian military will deploy once again to its pre-2011 positions along the Golan frontier, defined by the 1974 disengagement treaty with Israel.
Quote:Hundreds of Syrian White Helmets evacuated to Jordan through Israel BEIRUT -- The Israeli military in coordination with its U.S. and European allies evacuated hundreds of Syrian rescue workers known as the White Helmets from near its volatile frontier with Syria, in a complex and first-of-a-kind operation. Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi said Sunday that 422 White Helmets volunteers were evacuated, instead of the initial 800 cleared for the operation. The evacuees, who were hemmed in from one side by advancing hostile Syrian troops and from another by militants affiliated with the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), were transported to Jordan, from where they are expected to be resettled in Europe and Canada in the coming weeks.
Quote:Jihadists set ablaze UN post in Golan Heights ahead of evacuation DAMASCUS, SYRIA (2:45 P.M.) – Extremist militants in northern Quneitra set fire on the former UN post before leaving the area as per a surrender deal with the Syrian government. The post acts as the only crossing between Syrian territories and the Occupied Golan Height, and used to be run by the United Nations Disengagement Observer Force (UNDOF). According to a military source, the post was used by Nusra militants to store weapons, ammunitions and various supplies provided by Israeli Army.
Quote: The NATO nations might, for the first time ever, be required to ante up their share of the bill for "mutual" self-defense. - SIGNY "Might?" So you don't know that. Did you know that nothing has changed since Trump's visit, that they are on the same track for contributing as they were with Obama?- CC
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Now, there are a lot of things that Trump is doing (such as the "trickle-down" tax cut and environmental policy) which I strongly disagree with. I think we urgently need a return to Glass Steagall. - SIGNY Totally agree - here's a pretty damning list of his environmental disasters: https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/03/how-trump-is-changing-science-environment/- CC
Quote:He is the Saruman of our world.
Quote:But my disapproval of Trump, like my disapproval of Bill Clinton, has nothing to do with RUSSIA!!! or personal foibles or even financial crimes, but with POLICY ... something that you seem to be entirely unfamiliar with. SIGNY I have a great deal of problems with RUSSIA!! influencing my president. Think: influencing him is a quick way to effect POLICY.
Tuesday, July 24, 2018 1:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:All you "know" is what the media has told you, which is 45% nothing-burger, 45% breathless hysteria, 5% heavily-selected "facts" and 5% lies. You're triggered by everything he tweets and have lost sight of important trends. - SIGNY To be fair and accurate, we can only know what we know. Unless you are getting classified briefings then you are largely in the "educated guesses" category like the rest of us. And you don't know what our sources are, though you will lie about them to help make you feel better. Our president is dedicated a Fux New viewer and is proud of not reading, so most of us are miles ahead of him. To be fair, my "educated guesses" are better than yours because (1) I draw from a wider variety of sources and (2) I know more than you do; and I know people who know more than I do and (3) I look for EVIDENCE and the all-important cui bono? to parse events, as opposed to wild-eyed accusations/ off-kilter speculations. I have a pretty good idea of your "sources" based on the kinds of opinion that you bring to the board, plus the links that you (collectively) post.
Tuesday, July 24, 2018 4:40 PM
Wednesday, July 25, 2018 6:07 AM
Quote:In what way has Russia "influenced" Trump, and HOW HAS IT HURT OUR INTERESTS?? BE SPECIFIC. You all ... and I mean you, THUGR, JO, SECOND, and WISHY ... seem to take it as accepted fact that Putin is influencing Trump's policies to our detriment, and yet you have not been able to show a single instance of where it has happened.
Wednesday, July 25, 2018 6:13 AM
Wednesday, July 25, 2018 7:07 AM
Wednesday, July 25, 2018 7:24 AM
Wednesday, July 25, 2018 9:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I said I had a "pretty good idea" of your sources. (1) I didn't say that I knew for sure what they were, and (2) I didn't name them. Did I say you got your opinions from Rachel Madcow, or the BBC, or Twitter, any other particular source? No? Well, then. How can I have "lied" about something that I didn't even say? It seems like the liar is you.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: But then, I realize that you're just distracting from the rest of my post as best you can, because you have absolutely no intelligent response. So you pop up with your go-to TROLL response. I DO have to ask, tho: Are YOU five?
Wednesday, July 25, 2018 12:49 PM
Wednesday, July 25, 2018 3:51 PM
Quote:In One Year, MSNBC Covered 'Stormy Daniels' 455 Times, 'War In Yemen' 0
Thursday, July 26, 2018 8:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:In One Year, MSNBC Covered 'Stormy Daniels' 455 Times, 'War In Yemen' 0 So, who benefits from such twisted reporting?
Thursday, July 26, 2018 10:32 AM
Quote:Perhaps we should ban the press or tell them what questions to ask?
Thursday, July 26, 2018 2:04 PM
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Friday, July 27, 2018 6:43 AM
Quote: Democrats Propose Making It Illegal To Spread False Election Information Several congressional Democrats plan to introduce legislation Thursday that would make it a federal crime to knowingly and intentionally publish false information about elections. The legislation would criminalize knowingly spreading wrong information related to the time and place of elections as well as voter qualifications and registration status. The bill would also make it illegal to knowingly claim an endorsement from someone within 60 days of a federal election. Anyone who spread such misinformation would be subject to up to five years in prison and a $100,000 fine. While dirty tricks such as fliers telling people to vote on the wrong day have a long tradition in American politics, the legislation comes amid increased attention to the spread of misinformation amid Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-propose-making-it-illegal-to-spread-false-election-information/ar-BBL62Wj
Friday, July 27, 2018 10:33 PM
Quote:Democrats Propose Making It Illegal To Spread "False" Election Information
Friday, July 27, 2018 11:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Democrats Propose Making It Illegal To Spread "False" Election Information It used to be that Democrats were all for freedom of speech. Now, they seem to think that "1984" is a manual for thought-control.
Saturday, July 28, 2018 9:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Democrats Propose Making It Illegal To Spread "False" Election Information It used to be that Democrats were all for freedom of speech. Now, they seem to think that "1984" is a manual for thought-control. Yup. One of the many crazy reasons why I lean so far to the Right these days. It's kind of insane how somewhere in the last decade the Democrats more closely resemble the old Neo-Cons than the current Republicans do. I'm not really surprised about the whole party switch since they're really both two sides of the same coin, but it's amazing to me how hardly any of the people noticed the switch. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saturday, July 28, 2018 9:48 AM
Saturday, July 28, 2018 10:14 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Funny video. Also Funny: How you don't notice the parallels that are clear as day. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saturday, July 28, 2018 10:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Funny video. Also Funny: How you don't notice the parallels that are clear as day. Do Right, Be Right. :) False Advertising Law and Legal Definition. Advertising is the act or practice of attracting public notice and attention. It includes all forms of public announcement that are intended to aid directly or indirectly in the furtherance or promulgation of an idea, or in directing attention to a business, commodity, service or entertainment. "All forms of public announcement." This includes elected officials when running for office. All that's left to do is enforce it. T
Sunday, July 29, 2018 11:43 AM
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