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This is Why Trump is a SCUMBAG!
Monday, July 16, 2018 1:15 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Monday, July 16, 2018 1:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Yanno what I get out of this? The intelligence community's efforts at a soft coup by making things up like 'golden showers' and leaking select bits to show Trump 'colluded' with Russia - not going as well as hoped. The 'democratic' party hiding behind RUSSIA!!! as an excuse for not coming up with a ggod agenda - not going as well as hoped. The endless anti-Trump propaganda in the media to cost Trump support - not going as well as hoped. So let's forget all the pretense of legal moves to get rid of Trump. They were never more than a pretense anyway. 33 indictments. Guilty pleas. Sentences. No pretense needed. A supine, pro-Trump, absolutely compliant press that glosses over every outrage. Keep moving those goalposts, comrade.
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Yanno what I get out of this? The intelligence community's efforts at a soft coup by making things up like 'golden showers' and leaking select bits to show Trump 'colluded' with Russia - not going as well as hoped. The 'democratic' party hiding behind RUSSIA!!! as an excuse for not coming up with a ggod agenda - not going as well as hoped. The endless anti-Trump propaganda in the media to cost Trump support - not going as well as hoped. So let's forget all the pretense of legal moves to get rid of Trump. They were never more than a pretense anyway.
Monday, July 16, 2018 1:28 PM
JJ
Monday, July 16, 2018 2:30 PM
REAVERFAN
Monday, July 16, 2018 2:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JJ: Yep, and more indictments to come.
Quote:Think Americans and Wikipedia.
Monday, July 16, 2018 2:49 PM
Quote: DNI Clapper's As Delivered Remarks at the 2016 INSA & AFCEA Intelligence & National Security Summit People all around the world, not just opposing parties, want to know what the candidates are thinking. That's why we've seen attempted cyber intrusions against parties and candidates going back more than one election cycle. We've certainly seen it this year with the network intrusion against the Democratic National Party. The President said last week, and I quote, "Experts have attributed this to the Russians." So I won't get out ahead of the President on this, particularly while the FBI is still conducting an investigation, but I can reiterate his other point. The Russians hack our systems all the time, not just government, but also corporate and personal systems. And so do the Chinese and others, including non-state actors. The point is, cyber will continue to be a huge problem for the next Presidential administration, as it has been a challenge for this one. " https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/speeches-interviews/speeches-interviews-2016/item/1627-dni-clapper-s-as-delivered-remarks-at-the-2016-insa-afcea-intelligence-national-security-summit
Monday, July 16, 2018 3:01 PM
Monday, July 16, 2018 3:19 PM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: And no collusion - or conspiracy if you prefer - with RUSSIA!!! Yes, by all means. Ignore that little failure and keep moving those goalposts.
Monday, July 16, 2018 3:50 PM
Monday, July 16, 2018 4:46 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Whatever. You need three things to support your endless claims. All three things have to be in the same place at the same time. There are three things. Do you think you can remember all three things? Can you hold as many as three things in your mind at the same time? TRUMP+RUSSIA+CONSPIRACY Otherwise, you're babbling like an idiot. Oh wait! You ARE an idiot!
Monday, July 16, 2018 5:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: TRUMP+RUSSIA+CONSPIRACY
Monday, July 16, 2018 5:54 PM
Monday, July 16, 2018 5:57 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Monday, July 16, 2018 6:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: There is nothing illegal about "back channel" communications between top government officials of different nations. Obama had his own back channel to Russia, and also one with Iran. WTF??? I would EXPECT that our President, no matter who he or she is, of whatever party, would have non-public lines of communication open to MANY world leaders... in China, Germany, Russia, etc. It's an unsafe world, and would be only more unsafe if significant miscommunication were to occur/ be allowed to persist.
Monday, July 16, 2018 7:06 PM
Monday, July 16, 2018 7:14 PM
Quote:Top aides at the White House are peddling a remarkable excuse for President Donald Trump’s embarrassing performance at a press conference in Helsinki on Monday, where he sided with Russian President Vladimir Putin over American intelligence officials on the question of whether Russia interfered in the 2016 election. The president, they tell Axios’s Jonathan Swan, is delusional..
Monday, July 16, 2018 7:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, speaking of delusional ... Quote:Top aides at the White House are peddling a remarkable excuse for President Donald Trump’s embarrassing performance at a press conference in Helsinki on Monday, where he sided with Russian President Vladimir Putin over American intelligence officials on the question of whether Russia interfered in the 2016 election. The president, they tell Axios’s Jonathan Swan, is delusional.. Our "intelligence" officials are known proven liars who have been gunning for Trump since before the election. What did they think he was going to say.. . Yeah, I'm going to side with the officials who have lied in the past, who continue to lie about non-existent collusion, and who have maintained a pattern of extreme bias for Hillary and against me" ... ??? The only people who are delusional are people like Brennan, who I personally suspect of treason.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, speaking of delusional ... Quote:Top aides at the White House are peddling a remarkable excuse for President Donald Trump’s embarrassing performance at a press conference in Helsinki on Monday, where he sided with Russian President Vladimir Putin over American intelligence officials on the question of whether Russia interfered in the 2016 election. The president, they tell Axios’s Jonathan Swan, is delusional.. Our "intelligence" officials are known proven liars who have been gunning for Trump since before the election. What did they think he was going to say.. . Yeah, I'm going to side with the officials who have lied in the past, who continue to lie about non-existent collusion, and who have maintained a pattern of extreme bias for Hillary and against me" ... ??? The only people who are delusional are people like Brennan, who I personally suspect of treason. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics. America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
Monday, July 16, 2018 7:51 PM
Monday, July 16, 2018 7:59 PM
Monday, July 16, 2018 8:21 PM
Quote:We got TRUMP(JUNIOR)+RUSSIA+CONSPIRACY
Monday, July 16, 2018 8:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, speaking of delusional ... Quote:Top aides at the White House are peddling a remarkable excuse for President Donald Trump’s embarrassing performance at a press conference in Helsinki on Monday, where he sided with Russian President Vladimir Putin over American intelligence officials on the question of whether Russia interfered in the 2016 election. The president, they tell Axios’s Jonathan Swan, is delusional.. Our "intelligence" officials are known proven liars who have been gunning for Trump since before the election. What did they think he was going to say.. . Yeah, I'm going to side with the officials who have lied in the past, who continue to lie about non-existent collusion, and who have maintained a pattern of extreme bias for Hillary and against me" ... ??? The only people who are delusional are people like Brennan, who I personally suspect of treason. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics. America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876You're Russian. Why should we care what you say?
Monday, July 16, 2018 8:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/russian-national-charged-conspiracy-act-agent-russian-federation-within-united-states
Monday, July 16, 2018 8:33 PM
Monday, July 16, 2018 8:36 PM
Monday, July 16, 2018 9:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: RF I'm curious what will go through your mind when you're proven wrong in court. I wonder if your teeny, tiny head will explode.
Monday, July 16, 2018 9:41 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Look! A Republican who puts country above party! Wow! I wasn't sure there were any left! Southeast Ohio Republican Party leader resigns over Trump-Putin meeting https://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2018/07/southeast_ohio_republican_part.html
Monday, July 16, 2018 9:43 PM
Monday, July 16, 2018 9:44 PM
Monday, July 16, 2018 9:48 PM
Monday, July 16, 2018 9:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: The beginning of the end of a fascist nightmare. Even I, an eternal skeptic, can't see how Trump can get his handlers to spin him out of this. Rush Limbaugh will try first, of course. What I'm hearing on reichwing channels at the moment is weak sauce.
Monday, July 16, 2018 10:02 PM
Monday, July 16, 2018 10:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Tick Tock? lol Do Right, Be Right. :)
Monday, July 16, 2018 10:15 PM
Monday, July 16, 2018 10:16 PM
Monday, July 16, 2018 10:33 PM
Tuesday, July 17, 2018 5:32 AM
Tuesday, July 17, 2018 6:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Yeah, Trump's a genius. This is all about making the world a better place...
Tuesday, July 17, 2018 6:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Unlike you SLOPPY-SECONDS, I tried to understand what this meant.
Tuesday, July 17, 2018 6:26 AM
Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:03 AM
Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:36 AM
Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:37 AM
Tuesday, July 17, 2018 8:52 AM
Quote:Trump’s behavior at Nato, in London, in Helsinki, is so inexplicable and so against the interest of the United States
Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: WAIT… WHAT? Trump’s ‘Missing DNC Server’ Is Neither Missing Nor a Server The president can spout conspiracy theories all he wants. But the DNC turned over all its key data to the FBI after it got hacked. And that info wasn’t stored on a single server. https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-missing-dnc-server-is-neither-missing-nor-a-server
Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Trump’s behavior at Nato, in London, in Helsinki, is so inexplicable and so against the interest of the United States Bullshit You have not once - NOT ONCE - explained the interests of the United States, or explained WHICH United States interests you feel have been crossed. You've wailed long and loud about the poor illegal Hispanic migrants, the poor downtrodden Syrians, the poor fearful Eastern Europeans who need protection from Big Bad Russia, the poor poor around the world .... but NOT ONCE have you actually posted about AMERICA's interests. It's like you conflated our interests with every foreign victim subgroup, and act like we're supposed to swoop in and fix everything for everybody. (Yanno, like that worked so well in Vietnam.) So, since you brought up American's interests, maybe NOW is the time to tell me what our interests are that have been crossed?? Not Canada's, not Britain's, not the EU's .... not Mexico's, not Syria's, not Ukraine's .... ours. I predict that you will, once again, evade explaining an actual basis for your giant temper tantrum, and with nary a pause for reflection will continue to stomp your feet and bang your head against the floor and troll. Because that's what adults do in a real world discussion board.
Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: WAIT… WHAT? Trump’s ‘Missing DNC Server’ Is Neither Missing Nor a Server The president can spout conspiracy theories all he wants. But the DNC turned over all its key data to the FBI after it got hacked. And that info wasn’t stored on a single server. https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-missing-dnc-server-is-neither-missing-nor-a-server In order to understand what happened when one must examine THE ACTUAL HARD DRIVES AND LOGS. What REAVERFAN fails to understand is that data doesn't go into a "cloud" somewhere, it goes into an actual server, or set of servers, which are controlled by software which maintains, among other things, log files of every requested access. Somehow, I doubt the FBI got THAT information. I find it emblematic that the FBI simply took the DNC's word for it that they were "hacked" without once examining the actual system files and hard drives. Furthermore, and more importantly, the FBI has apparently deliberately blocked any attempt to discuss the issue with the one person who knows FOR SURE where the files came from, and that is Julian Assange. THAT particular fact is hard to explain and impossible to get around. It would be the SECOND thing that a genuine investigator would do, after taking possession of the actual hard drives (for forensic examination) and closely examining the log files. So, why wasn't either action done?
Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:50 AM
Tuesday, July 17, 2018 1:22 PM
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