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SECOND, do you know how Soros stole his billions? In currency speculation. He's known as "the guy who broke the Bank of England". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/229012.stm

How can you, on the one hand, claim to tell me that the problem with America is its wealthy elite, quote me chapter and verse about Veblen and the evils of "renting money", and on the other hand believe that the man who spent his entire life running a currency hedge fund - generating no goods or services whatsoever but skimming billions of dollars from the financial system ... is some sort of saint who will reform the world?

Well, I guess it's the same kind of blindness that make you believe that if you're adamantly anti-Republican that somehow makes you a moral person. It's the same kind of blindness that makes you think that Soros will rid the world of despots while himself being a despot.

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Hey stupid, read the story. It's about Soros warning Europe about adopting the euro as it's official currency.

How about you show us the part in the story about how Soros stole billions SIG.

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Here we have the self-proclaimed mostest bestest smartest informed Libtard around.
But this Troll does not have the slightest smidgen of a clue about common knowledge. No clue how Soros stole his millions. No clue how to look up any Facts in the Real World. No clue how to search for the basic information that everybody else can find. He must be spoon-fed every minor morsel of Truth or Fact, multiple times, before he regurgitates the newfound data as his own original idea.
If he had never been spoon-fed the info that Earth was not Flat, he'd still think the Sun Rose in the South on most days.

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SECOND, do you know how Soros stole his billions? In currency speculation. He's known as "the guy who broke the Bank of England". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/229012.stm

How can you, on the one hand, claim to tell me that the problem with America is its wealthy elite, quote me chapter and verse about Veblen and the evils of "renting money", and on the other hand believe that the man who spent his entire life running a currency hedge fund - generating no goods or services whatsoever but skimming billions of dollars from the financial system ... is some sort of saint who will reform the world?

Well, I guess it's the same kind of blindness that make you believe that if you're adamantly anti-Republican that somehow makes you a moral person. It's the same kind of blindness that makes you think that Soros will rid the world of despots while himself Hey stupid, read the story. It's about Soros warning Europe about adopting the euro as it's official currency.- IDIOT

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Hey stupid, READ THE STORY. There is NOTHING in there about the Euro. It's not even mentioned once. What the hell is wrong with you? Do you just make shit up because you're a troll, or are you really that stupid?

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Mr Soros, who operates one of the world's biggest private investment funds, is famous for having made $1bn by betting on the devaluation of the pound sterling in 1992.

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Reading not your "thing"? Like I said: What the hell is wrong with you?

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Reading comprehension is not a skill you pocess stupid. It says Soros made a billion by betting on the devaluation of the pound. In other words stupid, he invested his money with that in mind. What a ass you are.

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The one thing I wish people would stop talking about when it comes to Soros is any supposed Nazi affiliation in his past, whether under duress or not.

At best, it's a red herring, at worst, it's reason for somebody to doubt other very legitimate and very provable claims about what a monster he actually is.


I don't understand anybody's attempt to try to link him to Nazism. It doesn't do anything to bolster an argument against Soros, and you don't have to go nearly back as far as World War II to see the truly horrible things this man has done and continues to do.


STOP USING THE WORD NAZIS PEOPLE.

That means you reading this. That means everyone.


If you use the word Nazi in a sentence, you've already lost the argument.

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SECOND, do you know how Soros stole his billions? In currency speculation. He's known as "the guy who broke the Bank of England". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/229012.stm

How can you, on the one hand, claim to tell me that the problem with America is its wealthy elite, quote me chapter and verse about Veblen and the evils of "renting money", and on the other hand believe that the man who spent his entire life running a currency hedge fund - generating no goods or services whatsoever but skimming billions of dollars from the financial system ... is some sort of saint who will reform the world?

Well, I guess it's the same kind of blindness that make you believe that if you're adamantly anti-Republican that somehow makes you a moral person. It's the same kind of blindness that makes you think that Soros will rid the world of despots while himself Hey stupid, read the story. It's about Soros warning Europe about adopting the euro as it's official currency.- IDIOT

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Hey stupid, READ THE STORY. There is NOTHING in there about the Euro. It's not even mentioned once. What the hell is wrong with you? Do you just make shit up because you're a troll, or are you really that stupid?

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Mr Soros, who operates one of the world's biggest private investment funds, is famous for having made $1bn by betting on the devaluation of the pound sterling in 1992.

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Reading not your "thing"? Like I said: What the hell is wrong with you?

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Reading comprehension is not a skill you pocess stupid. It says Soros made a billion by betting on the devaluation of the pound. In other words stupid, he invested his money with that in mind. What a ass you are.

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That's nearly 2 billion in today's dollars.

Do you have any idea what a single investor as powerful as Soros betting a billion against the value of your currency does to your economy when your GDP for that year was 1.18 Trillion?

One single investor bet 1/118th of the entire GDP of the UK in 1992.


What do you think happens to a company when Warren Buffet bets against it?

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The one thing I wish people would stop talking about when it comes to Soros is any supposed Nazi affiliation in his past, whether under duress or not.

At best, it's a red herring, at worst, it's reason for somebody to doubt other very legitimate and very provable claims about what a monster he actually is.


I don't understand anybody's attempt to try to link him to Nazism. It doesn't do anything to bolster an argument against Soros, and you don't have to go nearly back as far as World War II to see the truly horrible things this man has done and continues to do.


STOP USING THE WORD NAZIS PEOPLE.

That means you reading this. That means everyone.


If you use the word Nazi in a sentence, you've already lost the argument.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You seem to be overfocusing on a word.
The pertinent point is that Jew Killers were being helped by Jew Soros, who subsequently was not bothered by his helping Kill Jews. It doesn't matter if you want to bury the word or the name of the Jew Killers that they chose for themselves.

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Do you have any idea what a single investor as powerful as Soros betting a billion against the value of your currency does to your economy when your GDP for that year was 1.18 Trillion?

One single investor bet 1/118th of the entire GDP of the UK in 1992.


What do you think happens to a company when Warren Buffet bets against it?

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The one thing I wish people would stop talking about when it comes to Soros is any supposed Nazi affiliation in his past, whether under duress or not.

At best, it's a red herring, at worst, it's reason for somebody to doubt other very legitimate and very provable claims about what a monster he actually is.


I don't understand anybody's attempt to try to link him to Nazism. It doesn't do anything to bolster an argument against Soros, and you don't have to go nearly back as far as World War II to see the truly horrible things this man has done and continues to do.


STOP USING THE WORD NAZIS PEOPLE.

That means you reading this. That means everyone.


If you use the word Nazi in a sentence, you've already lost the argument.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You seem to be overfocusing on a word.
The pertinent point is that Jew Killers were being helped by Jew Soros, who subsequently was not bothered by his helping Kill Jews. It doesn't matter if you want to bury the word or the name of the Jew Killers that they chose for themselves.

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The one thing I wish people would stop talking about when it comes to Soros is any supposed Nazi affiliation in his past, whether under duress or not.

At best, it's a red herring, at worst, it's reason for somebody to doubt other very legitimate and very provable claims about what a monster he actually is.


I don't understand anybody's attempt to try to link him to Nazism. It doesn't do anything to bolster an argument against Soros, and you don't have to go nearly back as far as World War II to see the truly horrible things this man has done and continues to do.


STOP USING THE WORD NAZIS PEOPLE.

That means you reading this. That means everyone.


If you use the word Nazi in a sentence, you've already lost the argument.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You seem to be overfocusing on a word.
The pertinent point is that Jew Killers were being helped by Jew Soros, who subsequently was not bothered by his helping Kill Jews. It doesn't matter if you want to bury the word or the name of the Jew Killers that they chose for themselves.

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Watching our local Trumpian zealot trolls who are racists and bigots, call someone else a Nazi sympathizer and a Jew killer is hilarious.

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The one thing I wish people would stop talking about when it comes to Soros is any supposed Nazi affiliation in his past, whether under duress or not.

At best, it's a red herring, at worst, it's reason for somebody to doubt other very legitimate and very provable claims about what a monster he actually is.


I don't understand anybody's attempt to try to link him to Nazism. It doesn't do anything to bolster an argument against Soros, and you don't have to go nearly back as far as World War II to see the truly horrible things this man has done and continues to do.


STOP USING THE WORD NAZIS PEOPLE.

That means you reading this. That means everyone.


If you use the word Nazi in a sentence, you've already lost the argument.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You seem to be overfocusing on a word.
The pertinent point is that Jew Killers were being helped by Jew Soros, who subsequently was not bothered by his helping Kill Jews. It doesn't matter if you want to bury the word or the name of the Jew Killers that they chose for themselves.

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Watching our local Trumpian zealot trolls who are racists and bigots, call someone else a Nazi sympathizer and a Jew killer is hilarious.

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See what you did here JSF. Completely derailed the conversation with the "N Word". Now T is going to ignore the point I was making, and I can hardly blame him because of your actions.

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THUGR, it's ridiculous to compare the amount of money that a central bank can commit to defending its currency to the entire national GDP. Do you think a nation should- or even can- commit its entire GDP to defending its currency?

They didn't call it "breaking the Bank of England" for nothing, and the day afterwards wasn't called "Black Wednesday" for nothing, either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

Soros' bet against the British pound simply meant that he was willing and able to toss more (borrowed) money to SINK the British pound than the Bank of England was able to spend supporting it. This wasn't a simple "bet" by a bystander on an event over which he has no control, like betting on a basketball game: Soros deliberately pushed the pound over the edge to make his bet come true.

The loss in currency value affected every single Britain, and specifically the British taxpayer, to the tune of roughly (Great Britain Pound) GBP3 billion, or, at the time, about GPB200 for every family in Great Britain. Soros' gain was their direct loss; and since there wasn't an "exchange" of anything ... Soros did not provide a good or service the the British .... it was a simple money-grab on his part, blessed by the "rules of the game" which allow the wealthy elite to steal money from everyone else.

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SIX is pointing to a more general problem, which is the extreme gap in power which goes along with the extreme gap in wealth. The extremely wealthy elite .... the top (roughly) 500 people in the world ... through sheer economic power can determine where the jobs are, what a national wage scale is, whether or not a government will be allowed to stand or will suffer financial and existential economic warfare, mass migrations, what will be "invested in" (infrastructure? education and health? sweatshops? agriculture?) and subsequent living standards etc. In addition, they control the media (So much for a "free" press! HA!) and politicians. America really IS an oligarchy, and the only reason why we have not been totally crushed under its weight (so far) is because our living standard has been artificially enhanced because our dollar is the world reserve currency (so far), and we - like the oligarchs - can use our dollar to buy global stuff for which we provide no real equivalent exchange of goods or services.

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Sell it elsewhere sig. I only read short excerpts of yours because your posts are full of bullshit and nonsense. Soros was one of many many speculators around the globe that bet against the euro. You post here like he broke the bank on his own. Why, because you have an agenda comrade. To troll....

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They didn't call it "breaking the Bank of England" for nothing, and the day afterwards wasn't called "Black Wednesday" for nothing, either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

Soros' bet against the British pound simply meant that he was willing and able to toss more (borrowed) money to SINK the British pound than the Bank of England was able to spend supporting it. This wasn't a simple "bet" by a bystander on an event over which he has no control, like betting on a basketball game: Soros deliberately pushed the pound over the edge to make his bet come true.

The loss in currency value affected every single Britain, and specifically the British taxpayer, to the tune of roughly (Great Britain Pound) GBP3 billion, or, at the time, about GPB200 for every family in Great Britain. Soros' gain was their direct loss; and since there wasn't an "exchange" of anything ... Soros did not provide a good or service the the British .... it was a simple money-grab on his part, blessed by the "rules of the game" which allow the wealthy elite to steal money from everyone else.

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They didn't call it "breaking the Bank of England" for nothing, and the day afterwards wasn't called "Black Wednesday" for nothing, either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

Soros' bet against the British pound simply meant that he was willing and able to toss more (borrowed) money to SINK the British pound than the Bank of England was able to spend supporting it. This wasn't a simple "bet" by a bystander on an event over which he has no control, like betting on a basketball game: Soros deliberately pushed the pound over the edge to make his bet come true.

The loss in currency value affected every single Britain, and specifically the British taxpayer, to the tune of roughly (Great Britain Pound) GBP3 billion, or, at the time, about GPB200 for every family in Great Britain. Soros' gain was their direct loss; and since there wasn't an "exchange" of anything ... Soros did not provide a good or service the the British .... it was a simple money-grab on his part, blessed by the "rules of the game" which allow the wealthy elite to steal money from everyone else.

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The UK Treasury could have made a £2.4 billion profit on the pound sterling's devaluation, but Soros bet that the UK was too stupid. The UK turned a chance of a huge profit into an actual loss £3.3 billion. Soros could made his money in complete secrecy, but for many months ahead of Black Wednesday, Soros very loudly and clearly told the UK Treasury what he was doing, what the Treasury was doing wrong, and yet the Treasury kept doing the wrong thing, anyway, out of misplaced pride in their own intellect. If they had listened to Soros, they could have made billions. But noooo! All the blame should go to Norman Lamont (Chancellor of the Exchequer) and Robin Leigh-Pemberton (Governor of the Bank of England), two dimwits. Neither dimwit accepted blame. Instead, they blamed Soros.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly]

Another sig conspiracy theory destroyed. Question, will she move on, post one more trollish response, or ignore yours and my last posts SECOND? At any rate she sure is a piece of work.

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They didn't call it "breaking the Bank of England" for nothing, and the day afterwards wasn't called "Black Wednesday" for nothing, either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

Soros' bet against the British pound simply meant that he was willing and able to toss more (borrowed) money to SINK the British pound than the Bank of England was able to spend supporting it. This wasn't a simple "bet" by a bystander on an event over which he has no control, like betting on a basketball game: Soros deliberately pushed the pound over the edge to make his bet come true.

The loss in currency value affected every single Britain, and specifically the British taxpayer, to the tune of roughly (Great Britain Pound) GBP3 billion, or, at the time, about GPB200 for every family in Great Britain. Soros' gain was their direct loss; and since there wasn't an "exchange" of anything ... Soros did not provide a good or service the the British .... it was a simple money-grab on his part, blessed by the "rules of the game" which allow the wealthy elite to steal money from everyone else.

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The UK Treasury could have made a £2.4 billion profit on the pound sterling's devaluation, but Soros bet that the UK was too stupid. The UK turned a chance of a huge profit into an actual loss £3.3 billion. Soros could made his money in complete secrecy, but for many months ahead of Black Wednesday, Soros very loudly and clearly told the UK Treasury what he was doing, what the Treasury was doing wrong, and yet the Treasury kept doing the wrong thing, anyway, out of misplaced pride in their own intellect. If they had listened to Soros, they could have made billions. But noooo! All the blame should go to Norman Lamont (Chancellor of the Exchequer) and Robin Leigh-Pemberton (Governor of the Bank of England), two dimwits. Neither dimwit accepted blame. Instead, they blamed Soros.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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SIX is pointing to a more general problem, which is the extreme gap in power which goes along with the extreme gap in wealth. The extremely wealthy elite .... the top (roughly) 500 people in the world ... through sheer economic power can determine where the jobs are, what a national wage scale is, whether or not a government will be allowed to stand or will suffer financial and existential economic warfare, mass migrations, what will be "invested in" (infrastructure? education and health? sweatshops? agriculture?) and subsequent living standards etc. In addition, they control the media (So much for a "free" press! HA!) and politicians. America really IS an oligarchy, and the only reason why we have not been totally crushed under its weight (so far) is because our living standard has been artificially enhanced because our dollar is the world reserve currency (so far), and we - like the oligarchs - can use our dollar to buy global stuff for which we provide no real equivalent exchange of goods or services.

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SIX is pointing to a more general problem, which is the extreme gap in power which goes along with the extreme gap in wealth. The extremely wealthy elite .... the top (roughly) 500 people in the world ... through sheer economic power can determine where the jobs are, what a national wage scale is, whether or not a government will be allowed to stand or will suffer financial and existential economic warfare, mass migrations, what will be "invested in" (infrastructure? education and health? sweatshops? agriculture?) and subsequent living standards etc. In addition, they control the media (So much for a "free" press! HA!) and politicians. America really IS an oligarchy, and the only reason why we have not been totally crushed under its weight (so far) is because our living standard has been artificially enhanced because our dollar is the world reserve currency (so far), and we - like the oligarchs - can use our dollar to buy global stuff for which we provide no real equivalent exchange of goods or services.

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I googled Did Einstein save letters from cranks? No. "After several hundred of these things you get into that mode," said Dr. Ian Stewart, a mathematician at Warwick University in England. "It has to do with your self-preservation. The writers of these letters range from pretty good amateur mathematicians who have made a mistake somewhere or skipped over an important step to people who are completely mad," he said. Signym, you are a crank.
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A feud has broken out between liberal billionaire activist and fervent Clinton supporter, George Soros, and Italy's anti-immigrant League party, which on Friday formed a populist movement in coalition with the 5-Star party, and whose leader Matteo Salvini stepped into his new job as Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Interior on Friday, pledging to deport hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants.

Salvini's League and the 5-Star Movement struck a deal Thursday on a coalition government which will work towards "putting Italians first" (and potentially making life for Europe a living hell with the ongoing threat of Quitaly, which according to JPMorgan may be Rome's best outcome), ending five days of market volatility and political chaos.

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Soros translated: Any government who puts their citizens ahead of migrants is now a Putin puppet.

The League's economics policy chief, Claudio Borghi hit back against Soros, stating (translated):

"Soros worried by the Italian government? Then it means that we are going in the right direction... We understand that those who have speculated for years on the skin of immigrants, financing NGOs and smugglers to invade Italy. The wind has changed for [Soros] and for all those who have profited from the deaths of hundreds of people."

Soros also admits in Italy's Corriere della Sera newspaper that the League's growing influence is a reflection on "Europe's flawed migration policies that imposed an unfair burden on Italy." His solution? Instead of resettling the migrants, the EU needs to pay Italy.

“It follows from the voluntary principle that the problem ... cannot be addressed by forced resettlement, but only by the EU financially compensating Italy for the migrants that land there,” wrote Soros, who also warned “There is a strong inclination in Europe to use the occasion [of the new government] to teach Italy a lesson ... If the EU follows this line, it will dig its own grave by provoking a negative response from the Italian electorate, which would then re-elect Movimento 5 Stelle and Lega Nord with an increased majority.”

Italy is far from the first European nation to reject Soros's open border ideology.

Most markedly, Hungary’s prime minister, Viktor Orbán, based his successful re-election campaign this year on attacking a supposed “Soros plan” to flood Hungary with Muslim migrants. In his opinion piece, Soros rubbishes the accusation as “false and ridiculous”.

He said: “Forcibly relocating [migrants] to other countries is neither possible nor desirable. Other countries, particularly Poland and Hungary, would strenuously resist ... I have always advocated that the allocation of refugees within Europe should be entirely voluntary.” -The Guardian

Poland and the Czech Republic have also notably resisted Soros's policies.

Ironically, the globalist establishment's stiff resistance against Salvini and Europe's populist wave (which on Sunday, swept across Slovenia where the anti-immigration SDS party soundly won the local elections) continues to backfire, and as Bloomberg reports, public support for the League strengthened as polls showed Salvini's party narrowing the lead of its ally, the Five Star Movement, to less than 2%.

Support for the anti-immigrant League grew to 28.5 percent, compared with 17.4 percent of votes received in March 4 general elections, according to an Ipsos poll published Saturday in Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera. Luigi Di Maio’s anti-establishment Five Star saw its support fall slightly to 30.1 percent from 32.7 percent of ballots on March 4, according to the poll.

And with Italy set to send back hundreds of thousands of immigrants to neighboring liberal European countries, we can only wonder how an "enlightened" and "progressive" Europe will get along with their new migrant residents the next time the global economy coughs up a hairball and people start to pay closer attention to where their tax dollars are going.

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SIX, this defense of Soros is because Soros is the backup plan for globalists/ R2Pers/ liberaloids who think that the solution to poverty is "helping" the poor, instead of reconfiguring the system so that so many people aren't driven into poverty in the first place.

I think SECOND's problem is that he knows the Democratic party has fucked up, and he's hoping that Soros is going to be his Secret Santa and fund SECOND's pet projects.

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But hey! Any time anyone wants to get off the Soros-topic and back to "Trump is a troll" just let me know!

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SIX, this defense of Soros is because Soros is the backup plan for globalists/ R2Pers/ liberaloids who think that the solution to poverty is "helping" the poor, instead of reconfiguring the system so that so many people aren't driven into poverty in the first place.

I think SECOND's problem is that he knows the Democratic party has fucked up, and he's hoping that Soros is going to be his Secret Santa and fund SECOND's pet projects.

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But hey! Any time anyone wants to get off the Soros-topic and back to "Trump is a troll" just let me know!

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Sorry, Signym, but I know what direction you are headed. You have a semi-theory to explain the world's problems and I know where it leads: George Soros and his ilk will take over the world unless this country has a strong leader like Donald Trump/Vladimir Putin/Viktor Orbán/Silvio Berlusconi/Margaret Thatcher. You are a crank, Signym, one of millions who believe in the strong leaders (aka Deus ex Machina) to magically solve the people's problems without the people understanding and doing the work of solving. The people only have to vote for the right person and then passively watch the miracle happen.

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Fixed it for you.

I have NEVER claimed that we need a "strong leader".

And gee, it sure would be nice if you would STOP LYING ABOUT WHAT I POSTED. I mean shit, son, if you have to lie so much to make your point, maybe you don't have one.

What I HAVE claimed is that we need to put decision-making capacity closer to the people who are actually being affected by those decisions. If that means moving that capacity out of secret international trade tribunals and banking consortia ... which btw are NOT democratically elected and over which the average person has no say whatsoever ... and back into the hands of a democratic national government, then so be it. Is it perfect? No, but it's a step in the right direction.

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"without the people understanding and doing the work of solving"

The wealthy have something the rest of us don't have: money, power, and control of our livelihoods. That makes any amount of 'work' to solve our problems moot. Especially since our problems are them - or, more pointedly - you.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/jan/16/worlds-eigh
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World's eight richest people have same wealth as poorest 50%

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/12/06/the-richest-1-p
ercent-now-owns-more-of-the-countrys-wealth-than-at-any-time-in-the-past-50-years/?utm_term=.75465d3bccb3
The richest 1 percent now owns more of the country’s wealth than at any time in the past 50 years

https://whorulesamerica.ucsc.edu/power/wealth.html
Wealth, Income, and Power

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But, he was a democrat ! There was a 'D' after his name. That HAD to be worth something!

SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

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In pursuit of your goal, do you support the Convention of States to fix the mess?

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Who ARE these idiots on MSNBC? Are they billed as "reporters"? I hope not! Not if they see their mission as "changing the Trump voter's mind"! Because if they're basically using their bullhorn to push the DNC's agenda, they can hardly pretend to be objective purveyors of the "news".

And yanno, I'm not even a big Trump supporter but ... don't they hear their own arrogance? Do they REALLY think that they're going to sway anyone's opinion by being jerks? Sheesh!

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Sig IS a part of the deep state conspiracy. That's because the term deep state is a tool for those who want to denigrate democratic institutions.- THUGR

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Oh bullshit, THUGR. What have I complained about? People being surveilled without a warrant, trampling their Constitutional right against unreasonable search and seizure? Immigrants breaking OUR laws by sneaking in illegally? Politicians beholden to the elite? Private banks taking over the function of currency creation? Endless foreign wars NOT for our benefit? Uneven application of the "rule of law"? Privilege, wealth, and power extended to synthetic people (corporations) far beyond anything accessible to real people?

So, where am I "attacking" our "democratic institutions"?


I think you're vastly confused between "democratic institutions" and "elite privilege".

I don't hear you complaining when our Constitutional rights are violated or the will of the people is subverted, NOPE! What REALLY gets your goat is when the wealthy and their secret servants are criticized. You've got your nose stuck so far up the elite's butt you've pretty much disappeared into their collective anus.

The reality is, I'm a better democrat than you are because you're just an authoritarian suckup.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm actually starting to worry that the anti-American sentiment that is growing from the Leftists is going to one day culminate in the complete handing over of the reins to the U.N.

Think about what's been happening recently. Not just here, but in the world.


I already said a few years ago that I believed Obama wasn't done with politics. What seat do you think they'd offer him at the table? What do you think people like T would do if that happened and Trump won again in 2020?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Or you can keep on believing Trump's crazy troll legal theories that laws cannot limit the President's power. - SECOND

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm actually starting to worry that the anti-American sentiment that is growing from the Leftists is going to one day culminate in the complete handing over of the reins to the U.N.

Think about what's been happening recently. Not just here, but in the world.


I already said a few years ago that I believed Obama wasn't done with politics. What seat do you think they'd offer him at the table? What do you think people like T would do if that happened and Trump won again in 2020?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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As always, 6ix, you drift toward conspiracy theories and away from mundane reality. Here is something that is not a conspiracy. Law professors explain why the US presidency “is not a get out of jail free card”. The professors are telling Trump and any Republicans that agree with Trump that he has lost his mind. It takes 2,000 words to explain how crazy Trump has gotten with his “apparent belief that he is empowered by the Constitution to halt the Special Counsel’s investigation into alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election for any reason whatsoever, and his apparent view that he is not constrained by Congress’s duly enacted laws prohibiting the obstruction of justice.”

You can read the careful explanations of why Trump is deluding himself and Republicans at https://qz.com/1297882

Or you can keep on believing Trump's crazy troll legal theories that laws cannot limit the President's power. It is your choice to believe whatever pleases you best. But some choices are crazy.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tweets, did someone say we are flipping out over everyone of Trumps tweets. I can't recall posting or discussing his tweets. I only recall posting and discussing what is happening with the ongoing Trump saga.

I post what is reported and the facts. Like 13 Russians indicted. Three Russian companies indicted. And five of Trumps top campaign advisors indicted or already plead guilty. Add to that the now disgraced National Security Advisor who also has plead guilty to lying about his Russian contacts.

Facts like Cambridge Analytica director 'met Assange to discuss US election'

tick tock

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Or you can keep on believing Trump's crazy troll legal theories that laws cannot limit the President's power. - SECOND

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If Trump is a troll then you continually letting your head explode over everything that he tweets just means that you're letting yourself get trolled. Right?

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Tweets, did someone say we are flipping out over everyone of Trumps tweets. I can't recall posting or discussing his tweets. I only recall posting and discussing what is happening with the ongoing Trump saga.

I post what is reported and the facts. Like 13 Russians indicted. Three Russian companies indicted. And five of Trumps top campaign advisors indicted or already plead guilty. Add to that the now disgraced National Security Advisor who also has plead guilty to lying about his Russian contacts.

Facts like Cambridge Analytica director 'met Assange to discuss US election'

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Facts, like the link you posted says that some people from CA tried to contact Assange. There was nothing in that story that said there was any successful attempt at it.

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Here you go dummy. Stop saying you read when we all know you don't.

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Jones’s legal assistant, Robert Murtfeld, who worked closely with him on the WikiLeaks case subsequently went to work for Cambridge Analytica as director of commercial sales in New York. Information passed to the US and UK committees reveals that Murtfield had arranged Kaiser’s visit to Assange last year.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/cambridge-analytica-director-met-
assange-to-discuss-us-election/ar-AAyip7w

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Really? Like another slice of chocolate cake? I'll remind you next time you start ranting about how terrible Trump is.

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Here you go dummy. Stop saying you read when we all know you don't.

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