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Congressman Matt Gaetz Issues Statement Demanding Intelligence Committee Release Classified Memo on DOJ and FBI to Public After Viewing Documen
Saturday, February 3, 2018 10:18 AM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Lets see when all is said and done what news sources generally get what they report right. The mainstream media like some call it or FOX, Brightbart and zerohedge. T
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Saturday, February 3, 2018 10:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Saturday, February 3, 2018 10:24 AM
THGRRI
Saturday, February 3, 2018 10:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: T
Saturday, February 3, 2018 11:27 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Saturday, February 3, 2018 12:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: OTOH, the juvenile sophistry of CC and T further argues that the dolt who CC is the sockpuppet of, is T. Same defective logic process, just using bigger words to pretend he's not in grade school.
Saturday, February 3, 2018 4:16 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Saturday, February 3, 2018 4:51 PM
Saturday, February 3, 2018 5:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: summarized investigation into the Department of Justice (DOJ) and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and their use of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) during the 2016 presidential election cycle. On October 21, 2016, DOJ and FBI sought and received a FISA probable cause order (not under Title VII) authorizing electronic surveillance on Carter Page first certified by the Director or Deputy Director of the FBI then approved by the Attorney General, Deputy Attorney General (DAG), or the Senate-confirmed Assistant Attorney General for the National Security Division. The FBI and DOJ obtained one initial FISA warrant targeting Carter Page requires probable cause Director James Comey signed three FISA applications in question on behalf of the FBI, and Deputy Director Andrew McCabe signed one. Sally Yates, then-Acting DAG Dana Boente, and DAG Rod Rosenstein each signed one or more FISA applications on behalf of DOJ. surveillance protection of American citizens dependst on the government’s production to the court of all material and relevant facts 1) “dossier” a) funding by the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign was not disclosed b) application does not mention Steele was working on behalf of — and paid by — the DNC and Clinton campaign, or that the FBI had separately authorized payment to Steele for the same information. 2) Carter Page FISA application cited a Yahoo News article by Michael Isikoff, but the article is not independent corroboration since it was derived from information leaked by Steele himself to Yahoo News. a) Steele was later terminated as an FBI source due to ongoing g actions during this time - Steele was an ongoing unreliable source b) Steele said he “was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president.” Steele himself was biased. However, Steele's strong bias, which could have affected his credibility as a source, was not disclosed in the application. a) DOJ Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr, ongoing, Ohr’s wife was employed by Fusion GPS to aid opposition research on Trump. Ohr gave the FBI with all of his wife’s opposition research. The relationships between Steele, Ohr, his wife, and Fusion GPS were concealed. 4) Head of the counterintelligence division, Assistant Director Bill Priestap, judged corroboration of the dossier as "in its infancy" when submitted to FISA. Later it was judged as only minimally corroborated. Deputy Director McCabe testified before the Committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information. 5) The Page FISA application also mentions information regarding fellow Trump campaign advisor George Papadopoulos, but there is no evidence of any cooperation or conspiracy between Page and Papadopoulos. The Papadopoulos information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016 by FBI agent Pete Strzok.
Saturday, February 3, 2018 6:52 PM
Saturday, February 3, 2018 7:15 PM
Saturday, February 3, 2018 7:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Memo's out, wait what T
Saturday, February 3, 2018 8:39 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: THIS was classified!??? My god, they'll classify ANYTHING! And this reveals... second of all, how poorly we, the average US citizen, are protected from snooping by our so called justice system.
Saturday, February 3, 2018 8:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: THIS was classified!??? My god, they'll classify ANYTHING! And this reveals... second of all, how poorly we, the average US citizen, are protected from snooping by our so called justice system.That was my takeaway from it. What's scary to me is that in an effort to continue the fight against Trump, the MSM is actually getting people to say that there was nothing in the memo. Wake up people. This has NOTHING to do with Trump at this point. If you were against the Patriot Act like I was, and I know a lot of you were, then this should be very worrisome to you. In fact, declassifying and releasing this memo may very well be the best thing Trump does as president, even though he did it for his own agenda. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:00 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Sunday, February 4, 2018 9:57 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Sunday, February 4, 2018 10:16 AM
Sunday, February 4, 2018 1:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: DING DING DING !
Sunday, February 4, 2018 3:14 PM
Sunday, February 4, 2018 3:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Originally posted by SIGNYM: "So far, everything I have posted has been EVEN WRONGER." That the memo is meant to lead to indictment of various officials. WRONG: The memo makes the case for inadmissibility of evidence. EVEN WRONGER: I never said "it was meant to lead to indictment of various officials." Thanks for making sh*t up. That one must have "malicious intent" to be prosecuted. WRONG: There are all kinds of security breaches and process crimes which do NOT require "intent" EVEN WRONGER: I never said "one must have "malicious intent" to be prosecuted." That the Trump Administration is "circling the wagons" around Carter Page. WRONG: The memo exposes the deep state's acting against an elected President. EVEN WRONGER: In truth, the memo actually shows the FBI acting appropriately to find the connections between a presidential campaign staffer and a foreign adversary. That the memo "flopped". WRONG: The memo has already had a significant impact on Americans of all parties (or none) and only extreme partisans and propagandists (such as yourself) would say otherwise. EVEN WRONGER: The memo has had impact on Trump Cultists only, as most of us knew beforehand. Originally posted by SIGNYM: "I'm continuing to build up quite a legacy of being stupid and irrelevant. Pretty soon, my impact will be circling the drain." RIGHT! Face it - it was just another stunt that failed. Trump sure must be terrified of something (Mueller?). We'll see if he releases the Dem's Memo and what that has to say Monday. I wonder if he will? He's kind of in a bind - he sure looks guilty if he doesn't, and it will likely cut this memo off at the knees if he does (to any non-cult member that is).
Sunday, February 4, 2018 4:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: The return of somebody with syntax confusion.
Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:03 PM
Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: CRUNCH: So far, everything you posted has been wrong: That the memo is meant to lead to indictment of various officials. WRONG: The memo makes the case for inadmissibility of evidence. That one must have "malicious intent" to be prosecuted. WRONG: There are all kinds of security breaches and process crimes which do NOT require "intent" That the Trump Administration is "circling the wagons" around Carter Page. WRONG: The memo exposes the deep state's acting against an elected President. That the memo "flopped". WRONG: The memo has already had a significant impact on Americans of all parties (or none) and only extreme partisans and propagandists (such as yourself) would say otherwise. You're building up quite a history of being stupid and irrelevant. Pretty soon, YOUR impact will be circling the drain.
Sunday, February 4, 2018 9:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Deeeeeep breath..... and go! Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Your Libtard dismissal of this criminal orchestration of maliciously persecuting innocent American Citizens belies your abysmal ethics, morality, and integrity. The common, everyday occurrence and practice you imply it is or should be, it is not - nor should it ever be, despite the totalitarian and dictatorial hopes of you and other Libtards. You, yourself have rendered your opinion moot in the Land of Liberty, Justice, and Freedom. Carter Page is hardly "an innocent American." I love how people have no clue of who he is or his history and yet rush to defend him. Do some reading. Also, he is not the guy who was going to bring Trump down, so why Team Trump chose to circle their wagons over him is curious. Must have nothing else or because they got to say, "The Dossier" over and over and over. They know how well simple phrases work with their base. "Dossier? Hey Luther, isn't that French!?!" So The Memo flopped, but cheer up, there's light ahead... wait for it... Phase II! Nunes is quickly trying to rush past the embarrassment that was Phase I. They're laughing stocks now, how much worse will it get with Phase II? I can't wait. Fwiw: Trump obviously signed off on this joke, grabbed some fries and a Big Mac and went down to FLA and waited for the returns to see if there was enough outrage so could use it to justify firing Rosenstein. If you can't see that you have the brains of a turnip. #ReleaseTheTaxes
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Your Libtard dismissal of this criminal orchestration of maliciously persecuting innocent American Citizens belies your abysmal ethics, morality, and integrity. The common, everyday occurrence and practice you imply it is or should be, it is not - nor should it ever be, despite the totalitarian and dictatorial hopes of you and other Libtards. You, yourself have rendered your opinion moot in the Land of Liberty, Justice, and Freedom.
Sunday, February 4, 2018 9:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Even less here than I first thought (naturally). I'm sure the Trump lovers will now commence to say how Awesome! it is. It basically just repeats what Fux News says every day, "Steele Dossier, Text Messages, Clinton..." Sorry, but you can't fire people because they hate Trump (or Clinton, or Bush, or Obama, Or Reagan, or...). If you can find and prove malicious intent you might have something - but that's not here. Carter Page had enough contacts with enough Russians that he deserved to be watched - that's basic national security.
Sunday, February 4, 2018 9:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Originally posted by SIGNYM: "So far, everything I have posted has been EVEN WRONGER." That the memo is meant to lead to indictment of various officials. WRONG: The memo makes the case for inadmissibility of evidence. EVEN WRONGER: I never said "it was meant to lead to indictment of various officials." Thanks for making sh*t up.
Quote:That one must have "malicious intent" to be prosecuted. WRONG: There are all kinds of security breaches and process crimes which do NOT require "intent" EVEN WRONGER: I never said "one must have "malicious intent" to be prosecuted."
Quote:That the Trump Administration is "circling the wagons" around Carter Page. WRONG: The memo exposes the deep state's acting against an elected President. EVEN WRONGER: In truth, the memo actually shows the FBI acting appropriately to find the connections between a presidential campaign staffer and a foreign adversary.
Quote:That the memo "flopped". WRONG: The memo has already had a significant impact on Americans of all parties (or none) and only extreme partisans and propagandists (such as yourself) would say otherwise. EVEN WRONGER: The memo has had impact on Trump Cultists only, as most of us knew beforehand.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: "I'm continuing to build up quite a legacy of being stupid and irrelevant. Pretty soon, my impact will be circling the drain."
Quote:RIGHT! Face it - it was just another stunt that failed. Trump sure must be terrified of something (Mueller?). We'll see if he releases the Dem's Memo and what that has to say Monday. I wonder if he will? He's kind of in a bind - he sure looks guilty if he doesn't, and it will likely cut this memo off at the knees if he does (to any non-cult member that is).
Monday, February 5, 2018 12:06 AM
Monday, February 5, 2018 12:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: rappy, jack, jsf, ikiki,the memo unmasked carter page as a person being investigated. Doing so informed the Russians to beware.
Monday, February 5, 2018 4:32 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The REAL problem ... one based in both parties .... [url]] ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
Monday, February 5, 2018 4:44 AM
Quote:Trump’s approval rating during his first year in office stayed between 35% and 45%, the worst of the seven most recent presidents, according to Gallup. Nonetheless, a late 2017 Gallup poll found that Trump is the second-most admired man in the U.S., after only his predecessor, Barack Obama. An NBC/Wall Street Journal poll from around the same time, however, found that only 36% of registered voters would support Trump for reelection in 2020. In the latest Rasmussen poll, which dropped just a few days after Trump’s first State of the Union address, 35% of respondents said they “strongly approve” of Trump’s performance, versus 38% who “strongly disapprove.”
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: The democrats, the FBI, and the State Department are Trump's biggest boosters. Instead of formulating a coherent, overt, political response to republicans, their machinations only make them look worse - and Trump look good by comparison. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/01/a-new-poll-looks-mighty-grim-for-democrats.html A New Poll Looks Mighty Grim for Democrats http://time.com/5132016/donald-trump-approval-rating-rasmussen/ Rasmussen Reports’ daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday listed Trump’s approval rating at 49% among likely U.S. voters, the highest approval rating Trump has earned since March 7, 2017. So, if the mid-terms go south for the dems, who are they going to blame this time? RUSSIA ! is already played out.
Monday, February 5, 2018 5:23 AM
Monday, February 5, 2018 6:32 AM
Monday, February 5, 2018 9:34 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: rappy, jack, jsf, ikiki,the memo unmasked carter page as a person being investigated. Doing so informed the Russians to beware. That is a legitimate way of looking at it. Although, if you don't believe that the Russians have been careful during every step of the plot you believe they're hatching, I don't understand why you're so afraid of them. Like OSHA 101, I would imagine that Espionage 101 focuses mainly on Safety First. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Monday, February 5, 2018 9:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: So, I'm going to make a general observation. For MONTHS I kept pointing out what a toxic candidate Hillary was. And for MONTHS I've been pointing out, and will continue to point out, what a disgrace the dem party is. You're clinging to an iron anchor hoping it'll stay afloat and exhorting us to join you. Good luck with that.
Monday, February 5, 2018 9:38 AM
Monday, February 5, 2018 10:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: For MONTHS I kept pointing out what a toxic candidate Hillary was. And for MONTHS I've been pointing out, and will continue to point out, what a disgrace the dem party is.
Monday, February 5, 2018 10:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Vid
Monday, February 5, 2018 11:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Carter Page could've been working as a double agent moron. We have no way of knowing.
Quote:That's one example of what it was wrong.
Monday, February 5, 2018 11:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: For MONTHS I kept pointing out what a toxic candidate Hillary was. And for MONTHS I've been pointing out, and will continue to point out, what a disgrace the dem party is. You won't get any arguments from me on either. If the Republicans could have run someone other than one of the 17 clowns that ran I would have easily voted against her. And now we have this huge moral vacuum that Trump has created and no one from the Dems to fill it. A wasted opportunity. But seriously, is anyone surprised? I don't see much change coming down the road.
Monday, February 5, 2018 11:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Vid Great vid, T., Perfect analogy. I am reminded of the saying, "It's wisest to under promise and over deliver." Trump TV must not have ever heard that one. More like all they care about is getting eyeballs and ears, so once they had milked this one to death and it flopped, they will just move on to the next fraudulent piece of junk. Uranium 2! "Thee biggest dud in American political history."
Monday, February 5, 2018 11:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: I think the point has been skirted. While 1kiki did as she says, she doesn't admit to waging war on Clinton during the election while giving Trump, the worst of the two candidates, a pass. She only spoke about Trump on rare occasions. Smooth but deceitful. Her way of campaigning for Trump.
Monday, February 5, 2018 11:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: I think the point has been skirted. While 1kiki did as she says, she doesn't admit to waging war on Clinton during the election while giving Trump, the worst of the two candidates, a pass. She only spoke about Trump on rare occasions. Smooth but deceitful. Her way of campaigning for Trump. I find Trump cultists and general pro-Trump people to be some of the most effective anti-Trump *tools* around.
Monday, February 5, 2018 12:34 PM
Monday, February 5, 2018 12:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Memo released, where's the beef? I guess you missed the part where the FISA court was lied to, multiple times, as the FBI presented " intel " which wasn't vetted and actually was little more than paid for op-research by a political party ( Democrats ) , which is laughably the OPPOSITE of what is required for a warrant to be issued. Yeah, you're not too bright, are you ? Didn't think so. What's the matter ? Can't answer a simple question ? Run along and find an MSNBC clip which addresses what I asked, if you can't come up w/ your own reply. Coward.
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Memo released, where's the beef? I guess you missed the part where the FISA court was lied to, multiple times, as the FBI presented " intel " which wasn't vetted and actually was little more than paid for op-research by a political party ( Democrats ) , which is laughably the OPPOSITE of what is required for a warrant to be issued. Yeah, you're not too bright, are you ? Didn't think so.
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Memo released, where's the beef?
Monday, February 5, 2018 12:55 PM
Monday, February 5, 2018 4:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Of course you two knuckleheads do. Surrounded by your echo chamber hive-mind. Hate to break it to you, but you're not in the majority. But do keep fighting the good fight, mkay?
Monday, February 5, 2018 8:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Of course you two knuckleheads do. Surrounded by your echo chamber hive-mind. Hate to break it to you, but you're not in the majority. But do keep fighting the good fight, mkay?Couldn't you at least have asked them to continue their good fight in their own thread, however delusional and untrafficked it may be? Instead of cluttering up worthwhile threads of actual discussion with their unrelated childish nonsense?
Monday, February 5, 2018 9:56 PM
Tuesday, February 6, 2018 8:43 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Tuesday, February 6, 2018 10:27 AM
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