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Have you found a copy of the Trump Budget as released yesterday? I could not find an online copy last night.

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Greg Gianforte is running for the House seat in Montana left open when Ryan Zinke was named Secretary of the Interior. It turns out he really, really doesn't like being asked what he thinks of the Congressional Budget Office's score of Trump's health care bill. In case the video gets deleted, the Republican broke the reporter's glasses, then told him to get out.

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Imagine if a reporter had body slammed Ted Cruz?

There are bigger stories for sure, but this is a good tell in terms of the heat and frustration the GOP must be feeling with these repeated failed attempts from their largely worthless leader. They're starting to crack.

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There are many thousands of towns and communities that relies or relied on one form of industry. Everything else that supports a town or community is spawned into existence because of that industry. Outsourcing and digital advancements have been sucking the life source out of theses places. Anger and protectionism is the result.

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There are bigger stories for sure, but this is a good tell in terms of the heat and frustration the GOP must be feeling with these repeated failed attempts from their largely worthless leader. They're starting to crack.

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There are many thousands of towns and communities that relies or relied on one form of industry. Everything else that supports a town or community is spawned into existence because of that industry. Outsourcing and digital advancements have been sucking the life source out of theses places. Anger and protectionism is the result.

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There are many thousands of towns and communities that relies or relied on one form of industry. Everything else that supports a town or community is spawned into existence because of that industry. Outsourcing and digital advancements have been sucking the life source out of theses places. Anger and protectionism is the result.

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Republicans don't understand the concept of a Ghost Town: when the veins of silver are all gone in the local mine, it is time to abandon the town. When the trees have been cut down and the sawmill closes, it is time to abandon the town. When people sell their horses to the slaughter house and buy cars and the horse-drawn buggy factory that employs everybody closes, leave town.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly]

They have no sense of neighbor. They scream the loudest they are the ones who do, but they don't. Nowhere in the bible does it say think and act like a Republican.

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"The Germans are evil, very evil," said Trump.

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The "very bad" translation comes from the Cambridge Dictionary, anyway. Google Translate says Trump's comments actually translate to "evil, very evil."

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"The Germans are evil, very evil," said Trump.

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This is one of the main problems with Left Wing journalism. Trump never said "The Germans are evil, very evil".

He said, "The Germans are bad, very bad".

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/05/25/pre
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The "very bad" translation comes from the Cambridge Dictionary, anyway. Google Translate says Trump's comments actually translate to "evil, very evil."

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I'm sure that you have read articles that were written based off of what "Google Translate" said that Trump said.

With reporting as irresponsible as this, one wonders what else has been blown out of proportion after the game of Liberal MSM Telephone that is being held everyday on The Internets.

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Hey, researched material. And if true your point is valid Jack. Welcome to the world of facts. We can do without the last part though. What does that even mean?

P. S. Jack. Don't miss the main point here. Russia good, our European allies, NATO bad. Trumps not just a problem, he's dangerous.

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With reporting as irresponsible as this, one wonders what else has been blown out of proportion after the game of Liberal MSM Telephone that is being held everyday on The Internets.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Fortunately I didn't listen to any of Trump's promises, and didn't vote for him because of them. So all this blather is, to me, a small, bored meh.

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I know, you wanted the socialist. He wasn't in the general so you were shit out of luck. While you didn't push Trump for president as hard as SIG, you did vehemently attack Hillary. Even though, that left only Trump as a possible winner.

I too hated Hillary as a candidate, but Trump was completely out of the question. Everything I've seen to date tells me I was 100% right.

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Fortunately I didn't listen to any of Trump's promises, and didn't vote for him because of them. So all this blather is, to me, a small, bored meh.

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SECOND, the jury is still out, but everyday we learn more that suggests Trump is a traitor. It's Puntins' agenda he is pushing not Americas.

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SECOND, the jury is still out, but everyday we learn more that suggests Trump is a traitor. It's Puntins' agenda he is pushing not Americas.

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Gee. ... D'yah think the Republicans will notice that anytime soon?



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I'm curious what people think that Trump has actually DONE. It looks like some of his surrogates tried to open up lines of communication with Putin. I can see how that would be helpful to avoid all out war with Russia. For example: "Vlad, I'm pretty sure they didn't do it but everyone here's howling about how Syria supposedly chemically attacked a small, non-strategic village. I have to do SOMEthing to get people off my back, politically speaking. How about I bomb a Syrian airfield? Can we not escalate from that?" Talking to the Russians, especially Putin, could be a real world-saver. And hell, even Reagan privately talked with Gorbachev. (And from thence came the START missile treaty. http://www.nytimes.com/1987/12/09/politics/09REAG.html?pagewanted=all&
amp;mcubz=1 https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2004_07-08/Reagan)

It's not treason for Trump to talk with Putin. Or even illegal.

So - what has Trump DONE that people are so upset about?

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So 1kiki, why all the lies? Why not just say that? Why ask for immunity? Why not come forth if nothing wrong was done? Why set up a line of commination in the Russian Embassy, where you need to go to the Embassy to speak to Putin, when all they need do is pick up a phone?

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So 1kiki, why all the lies? Why not just say that? Why ask for immunity? Why not come forth if nothing wrong was done? Why set up a line of communication in the Russian Embassy, where you need to go to the Embassy to speak to Putin, when all they need do is pick up a phone?

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So 1kiki, why all the lies? Why not just say that? Why ask for immunity? Why not come forth if nothing wrong was done? Why set up a line of communication in the Russian Embassy, where you need to go to the Embassy to speak to Putin, when all they need do is pick up a phone?

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I can answer those questions.

There is a "leaked" public transcript of the call between Trump and Duterte, President of the Philippines. On the call, Trump enthusiastically endorsed Duterte’s murderous "drug war" and repeatedly addressed the possibility of a U.S. nuclear strike on North Korea. Maybe when talking to the Russians, Trump is talking about worse actions than nuking N Korea and public executions without arrest or trial. I can see why he needs a secure back channel to avoid leaks similar to this one from the Philippines.

www.politico.com/story/2017/05/24/trump-rodrigo-duterte-call-transcrip
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As with Nixon, follow the money. Russian banks and loans. Also, what Jared Kushner tried to do was not create a backchannel to Russia. The parameters of a backchannel are entirely different from what he tried to do. What Jared was trying to do is set up a covert communications channel with an enemy.

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As with Nixon, follow the money. Russian banks and loans.

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Unless they were trading in Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoon bags of cash that's all very easy to track these days.

Makes you wonder why we're still talking in theoreticals, doesn't it?

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Unless they were trading in Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoon bags of cash that's all very easy to track these days.

Makes you wonder why we're still talking in theoreticals, doesn't it?

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There is no reason to wonder. It is not easy to track bribery. Getting a conviction is even harder. For a real example: There is a story about a Russian bribing Erdogan with $25,000,000. It wasn't bags of cash or even electronic transfers between banks. Trump’s bribery could be just as complex and difficult to expose. Trump is actually tied into the story of Erdogan taking bribes.
https://theintercept.com/2017/05/26/malta-files-revelations-25-million
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This story took 8 years before it was revealed. Slow investigations are typical. Being caught taking a bribe has not gotten Erdogan sentenced to jail. He is still President and he denies everything. Any bribes Trump is taking today might be (or not) revealed in 8 years, after he is out of office. Trump will deny everything, just like Erdogan. It is the smart move.

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Then it sounds to me like they've got nothing.

The MSM should be reporting on things that are actually happening, not dealing every single day in theory.

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Any bribes Trump is taking today might be (or not) revealed in 8 years, after he is out of office.

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Then it sounds to me like they've got nothing.

The MSM should be reporting on things that are actually happening, not dealing every single day in theory.

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For 6 years Trump was saying the case against Trump University was fake news and that he would never settle because he was innocent. "Innocent, believe me."

The MSM kept covering the Trump University story, fake or not. Then Trump paid a $25,000,000 fine this year, breaking the promise that he would not settle. Paying was the same as admitting to the MSM that every single time Trump had said "fake news" he knew he was guilty.

Trump is pulling the exact same "fake news" scam again, claiming "fake news" for the next 4 to 8 years. When he eventually pays his fine for what is happening today we will know the only thing fake for all those years was Trump, not the MSM news stories about him.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/18/news/trump-university-settlement-payme
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I'm still wondering what it is that Trump has DONE that's so bad.

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All you can do SECOND, is whine about how BAD Trump is - AS PRESIDENT. And I'm STILL wondering - what it is that Trump has DONE that's so bad.

Obviously, it's a question you can't answer.

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I consider him borderline nuts,
and That is dangerous.

Let's hope I'm wrong.

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To oonj and second

Trump might be the biggest asshole, and most infantile narcissist in the world for all I know. Last I checked, that wasn't impeachable.

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President Trump on Sunday evening called for more spending on health care and said his plan to overhaul the tax code “is actually ahead of schedule” — two statements that are at odds with the budget proposal he unveiled just last week.

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Stop. Just stop. Do something useful. Maybe write to the democrap party . . .
Tell them they have to start solving the problems the vast majority of people care about, like this

labor force participation rate 2008-2017

instead of catering to every faction and flavor of minority victimhood. Or the midterms will be a rout as democrats bail even more to third parties.

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MEANWHILE - I'm STILL wondering - what it is that Trump has DONE that's so bad. He tried to talk with Russia. Terrible! He tweets. A capital crime, I'm sure! And OMFingG!, he broke some campaign promises. The first politician EVER to do that.

Obviously, it's a question you can't answer.

So, for starters - Are we at war? Has the economy crashed? Is Trump droning people to death? Have we attacked yet another country? Have we been attacked? What it is that Trump has DONE that's so bad?

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MEANWHILE - I'm STILL wondering - what it is that Trump has DONE that's so bad. He tried to talk with Russia. Terrible! He tweets. A capital crime, I'm sure! And OMFingG!, he broke some campaign promises. The first politician EVER to do that.

Obviously, it's a question you can't answer.

So, for starters - Are we at war? Has the economy crashed? Is Trump droning people to death? Have we attacked yet another country? Have we been attacked? What it is that Trump has DONE that's so bad?

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Trump has done nothing so bad.

No matter what Trump does, he is safe as long as he does not politically irritate 67 Senators. Very few Senators care about what crimes Trump commits. It is all politics.

There were 48 Senators that wanted him impeached before he was inaugurated, but they needed a plausible reason to be politically safe from the voters. If Robert Mueller gives the Democrats a better reason than Trump talked to Russians and also if Trump becomes an embarrassment for his own party, the Republicans will join with the 48. Then Trump will be politically dead as Nixon.

By the way, I don't think Nixon's Watergate connected crimes were that big a deal, except to Republican Senators who were tired of his craziness and wanted nice, safe and sane V.P. Jerry Ford as President. Nixon bombing Cambodia was a real crime, but that did not get him impeached. It was the gradual deterioration of his personality that politically killed Nixon.

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Don't think I haven't noticed the change in tides here regarding Trump's guilt the last week or so. What's wrong? Is the MSM backpedaling on the narrative all of the sudden?

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So, for starters - Are we at war? Has the economy crashed? Is Trump droning people to death? Have we attacked yet another country? Have we been attacked? What it is that Trump has DONE that's so bad?

Any takers?

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