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Trump shared classified information with Russian officials
Monday, May 15, 2017 7:52 PM
THGRRI
Monday, May 15, 2017 8:07 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Monday, May 15, 2017 8:32 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: The usual unnamed officials, anonymous sources, and undisclosed reports. And the caveat in the original WaPo story; "As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law." There's not much 'there', there.
Monday, May 15, 2017 9:15 PM
JAYNEZTOWN
Monday, May 15, 2017 9:26 PM
6STRINGJOKER
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: So does the media now double down crying afdter the election loss...
Quote:The Latest on the report that President Donald Trump shared classified information with Russian officials 7:15 p.m. President Donald Trump's national security adviser is denying a report that claims Trump shared highly classified intelligence about Islamic State militants with a top Russian diplomat.
Monday, May 15, 2017 9:49 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.3bcae2e412a9 The usual unnamed officials, anonymous sources, and undisclosed reports. And the caveat in the original WaPo story; "As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law." There's not much 'there', there.
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: How predictable.... More anonymous sources and meaningless nothing from the worthless MSM. Just another day in the RWED.
Monday, May 15, 2017 10:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: So, even if Trump was naughty boy to bring Russia in the loop regarding our common enemy - without declassifying the intelligence - then where is the big deal?
Monday, May 15, 2017 10:37 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Monday, May 15, 2017 11:02 PM
Monday, May 15, 2017 11:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: SECOND I won't bother responding to your posts in any substantiate way, because you're incapable of participating in mutual discussion. But thanks for keeping me up to date on what the droids are fluttering about now.
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: I've been saying that a while. Second kind of took over the other thread with her "talking to the future" and came right out and finally said that she has no desire to have a conversation. But she does that everywhere. She's just talking with herself. We don't even need to be here.
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:58 AM
Quote:At fireflyfans.net there is the time delay of minutes to days, between one post and the next, making conversation impossible.
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:04 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: The Latest on the report that President Donald Trump shared classified information with Russian officials 7:15 p.m. President Donald Trump's national security adviser is denying a report that claims Trump shared highly classified intelligence about Islamic State militants with a top Russian diplomat. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-latest-officials-deny-trump-revealed-classified-info/ar-BBBbbt4?OCID=ansmsnnews11
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: So does the media now double down crying afdter the election loss... Why not J? They've been doing it since November 9th. I'm not even going to bother reading that article. The thread title is that Trump Shared Classified Information with Russian Officials and the best that T could pull out of it was this? Quote:The Latest on the report that President Donald Trump shared classified information with Russian officials 7:15 p.m. President Donald Trump's national security adviser is denying a report that claims Trump shared highly classified intelligence about Islamic State militants with a top Russian diplomat. The thread should be titled "Trump's National Security Adviser Denies Trump Shared Classified Information", but that's not click-bait. 1kiki's right on the money with this one.... What did I say about the BS barometer? How predictable.... More anonymous sources and meaningless nothing from the worthless MSM. Just another day in the RWED.
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: This information about the "leak" that came directly from the president, the release of classified information to Russian officials, came from within the Administration itself. ... and all we get from the Trolls and other stupid motherfuckers is "oh, this is fake news." Alternate facts!!!
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:04 AM
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:20 PM
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:27 PM
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:20 PM
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:43 PM
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: Still not actually any talk of what he leaked, huh? Just going with the standby "secrets" I see. Yawn.
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: Still not actually any talk of what he leaked, huh? Just going with the standby "secrets" I see. Yawn. He leaked classified info dumbf@ck. So.... it would be illegal for MSM to report exactly what that was if they know. Do just a little reading as opposed to having opinions based on total ignorance and you would have discovered that what was leaked was intel that brought us the knowledge that isis was interested in using laptops to bring down commercial airliners. That info was discovered only through the sacrifice and dedication that an undercover agent from an allied country (Israel) risked their life to bring us. That knowledge could help isis find the agent and remove their head. And Trump treated it like a fortune from a fortune cookie cuz he's a dumbass old piece of shit trying to score points with his Russian besties.
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: Still not actually any talk of what he leaked, huh? Just going with the standby "secrets" I see. Yawn.I yawn also, but I have a realistic example followed by a fantasy that might wake you. Republicans in Congress have acted like lawyers for Trump, noting that it’s perfectly legal for him to fire Comey or give top secrets to Sergei Lavrov. The legality of Trump’s actions is precisely the problem. The president has a lot of legal authority. Authority that can be misused. Trump could, for example, have his enemies killed and then pardon the killers, and it would be perfectly legal. Are you awake now? I suggest the Clintons for assassination. It would be a real crowd pleaser in certain crowds.
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: Obama killed a lot of people in 8 years too. So did the Clintons. What's your point? What could you possibly do to stop this? It's nice not having any money or power.
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:12 PM
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: He allegedly leaked info, and his top advisors deny that he did. It's rather convenient that nobody can know what it is about, so the claim is completely unverifiable by anybody.
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:50 PM
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: Obama's behavior wasn't a problem because he was King Shit on Turd Mountain. The MSM's golden boy.
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:22 PM
Quote:What if Hillary had done what Trump has done?
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:47 PM
Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:What if Hillary had done what Trump has done? Hillary would do worse. Instead of cooperating with Russia to defeat an actual threat - ISIS - she'd be escalating confrontation with Russia and jonesing for nuclear war. But you don't care about that.
Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:16 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:“My investigation up to this point shows there was some degree of email exchange between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks.”
Quote:Tillerson, McMaster deny report Trump shared classified information with Russia
Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yanno, here's the thing: I'm not pro-Trump. But I'm against entrenched entities that are against Trump. This is is a deep-state -v President fight. And the Dems are just craven enough to use the deep state are their battering ram, because the Dems think THEY'RE in control. Good lord. Who do you want to win? The deep state? Or Trump?
Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: What if Hillary had done what Trump has done?
Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:13 AM
Quote:Yanno, you're full of it
Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: Quote:Originally posted by second: What if Hillary had done what Trump has done? I have still yet to see ANY PROOF that Trump did this. Just a bunch of articles alleging that he did that cite anonymous sources and "officials say". Somebody get Billy Bush. We can get a 5 minute audio of Trump talking about grabbing pussy 10+ years ago, but top CIA operatives with state of the art tech can't show us any proof of any collaboration with Russia or other illegal activities after 4 months of Democrats screaming about it???????
Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: This information about the "leak" that came directly from the president, the release of classified information to Russian officials, came from within the Administration itself. ... and all we get from the Trolls and other stupid motherfuckers is "oh, this is fake news." Alternate facts!!! And the caveat in the original WaPo story; "As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law." Are you saying that the WaPo is a purveyor of 'alternate facts'?
Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:24 AM
Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:36 AM
Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:55 AM
Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: You just don't get it, do you? This is not Dems vs. Repubs. This is real shit. This is your basic American way of life. These fuckers are pissing in our ear and telling us it's raining. If you hear a gun shot in a dark room, and when the lights come on you see Trump holding a smoking gun.....you would ask: Did you actually see him pull the trigger?
Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: It has now come to pass that Comey kept a "contemporaneous" memo of his important meetings, and he had sent copies to his high-ranking FBI officials. Smart man. And he is eager to testify before the Intelligence, Judiciary and Select Committees. This does not bode well for our merry little traitors. SGG
Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Oh yeah, this from the droid who regurgitates any thoughtless piece of gossip that she can find!
Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:09 AM
Quote:You just don't get it, do you? This is not Dems vs. Repubs. - SGG
Quote:Every Democrat in Congress, except maybe Bernie, would impeach Trump immediately based only upon gossip that is already available.= SECOND
Quote:This is real shit.- SGG
Quote: This is your basic American way of life.- SGG
Quote:These fuckers are pissing in our ear and telling us it's raining.- SGG
Quote: If you hear a gun shot in a dark room, and when the lights come on you see Clinton/ Bush/ Obama/ Trump holding a smoking gun.....you would ask: Did you actually see him pull the trigger?=SGG
Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Every Democrat in Congress, except maybe Bernie, would impeach Trump immediately based only upon gossip that is already available.
Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: Quote:Originally posted by second: Every Democrat in Congress, except maybe Bernie, would impeach Trump immediately based only upon gossip that is already available. That is a HUGE problem. Is this something that you are proud of?
Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:08 AM
Quote:The problem is that Trump has an appetite for chaos, while Congress, both Democrats and Republicans, do not.
Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: Quote:Originally posted by second: Every Democrat in Congress, except maybe Bernie, would impeach Trump immediately based only upon gossip that is already available. That is a HUGE problem. Is this something that you are proud of?The problem is that Trump has an appetite for chaos, while Congress, both Democrats and Republicans, do not. Trump doesn't believe Congress can fire him with as little forethought as he fired Comey because Trump knows the Republicans in Congress, and only the Republicans, have to worry about a backlash by Republican voters in 2018. That's the main reason Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan haven't geared up for replacing Trump with Pence. If Trump makes a few more stupid decisions in the next few months, they will impeach him. I forgot the 25th amendment as a convenient alternative to impeachment: PRESIDENTIAL DISABILITY AND SUCCESSION. A case could be made that Trump is nuts and thus disabled. Trump's own Cabinet, the people he picked, could remove him from office. https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/amendments/amendment-xxv The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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