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Monday, April 24, 2017 2:17 PM
THGRRI
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: Haha! Good luck getting a straight answer out of Second. Incoming link to another vaguely related story to deflect your questions in 3..... 2...... 1.... You still expect I'm posting to answer your questions. Once in awhile I'll take the bait, but I can tell I'm wasting my time on you because you've got a serious problem with understanding the world as it actually is rather than your simple-minded model of how the world works.
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: Haha! Good luck getting a straight answer out of Second. Incoming link to another vaguely related story to deflect your questions in 3..... 2...... 1....
Monday, April 24, 2017 3:50 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Lol SECOND, I quoted you before pointing out what you posted to 6 was way beyond his reading comprehension skills. I see he still doesn't get it. It's just to funny. Hey, you may want to try telling 6 directly, 6, I am talking to you. Or 6, I am not talking to you. It's just to funny.
Monday, April 24, 2017 4:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Lol SECOND, I quoted you before pointing out what you posted to 6 was way beyond his reading comprehension skills. I see he still doesn't get it. It's just to funny. Hey, you may want to try telling 6 directly, 6, I am talking to you. Or 6, I am not talking to you. It's just to funny. A test of 6stringJoker's reading skills: www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/24/15375206/respect-trump-voters-truth If you really respect Trump voters, tell them the truth: Trump's nostalgia economics won’t work. A wave of recent columns argue that what Trump superfans — or at least some hazily imagined, hard-pressed Northern working-class version of them — really want is respect. By all appearances, though, the opposite is the case. Those voters want what most voters want from politicians: to be disrespected, via shameless pandering and the occasional blatant lie. This was true of the men I spoke to in Bucksport, Maine, in the summer of 2016 who’d never backed a GOP presidential candidate before but were drawn to Donald Trump on the theory that he could bring back the shuttered Verso paper mill — whose closure devastated the community. They seemed most of all to want to be told that reopening the mill was a realistic dream, even though it almost certainly is not. That doesn’t make Trump fans unique. It makes them normal. Politicians who tell liberals that overturning Citizens United would solve all their problems or that an aggressive crackdown on fossil fuel use would magically usher in a bonanza of well-paid green jobs are, similarly, misleading their constituents and not respecting them. But if you really respect people and really want to help them, you need to level with them at some point. More at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/24/15375206/respect-trump-voters-truth
Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Whether or not you agree with what they say about policies in the article, it's about having an honest discussion. Not possible here.
Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Whether or not you agree with what they say about policies in the article, it's about having an honest discussion. Not possible here.You're expecting them to publicly agree to reverse themselves on Trump, either for him or against him. Privately, that might happen but there is nowhere on the internet, not just at fireflyfans.net, where that has ever happened in public. Now on with the continuing story of Trump. In the episode where Trump does his latest parody of being wise and well-informed: Trump demands federal funding for a border wall he promised Mexico would pay for. He has leaned heavily on the argument that the wall is the only way to stop illegal drugs from coming across the Southwest border. “The Wall is a very important tool in stopping drugs from pouring into our country and poisoning our youth (and many others)!” the president tweeted this week. “If the wall is not built, which it will be, the drug situation will NEVER be fixed the way it should be!” But experts on the drug trade say a border wall, even one as big and beautiful as Trump promised, would be near-impotent in stemming the supply of illegal drugs. The primary reason? Drugs that flow across the Southwest border, like heroin, are primarily transported through existing border checkpoints via cars and trucks. Those checkpoints will be there whether the wall gets built or not. Mexican drug cartels “transport the bulk of their drugs over the Southwest border through ports of entry (POEs) using passenger vehicles or tractor trailers,” the DEA writes in its 2015 National Drug Threat Assessment. “The drugs are typically secreted in hidden compartments when transported in passenger vehicles or comingled with legitimate goods when transported in tractor trailers.” Trump does not know it but his administration knows this. At an April hearing, Department of Homeland Security Secretary John F. Kelly acknowledged that illegal drugs “mostly come through the ports of entry.” At a separate hearing in February, the director of a customs border task force told lawmakers that “the Southwest land border POEs are the major points of entry for illegal drugs, where smugglers use a wide variety of tactics and techniques for concealing drugs.” Maybe Trump should talk to his own people? Or is that too much work? www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/04/25/the-1-reason-why-trumps-wall-wont-fix-the-drug-problem/ The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Tuesday, April 25, 2017 10:31 AM
6STRINGJOKER
Tuesday, April 25, 2017 10:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Quote:Originally posted by second: Maybe Trump should talk to his own people? Or is that too much work? Trump IS a man of the people. Really. Having Trump as president is like having my neighbor suddenly plucked out of his house and life and made president. I can just hear Dan say, "Huh? Who know Health Care could be so complicated?" Dan also watches Fox, and parrots pretty much everything they say. I find Trump's stubbornness and lack of focus, ie, his inability to LEARN, one of the most troubling things. Now he's going back to his vendetta against the ACA, tax reform in a week, The Wall (terrible movie), he's in a loop of failure, too stubborn to take on what might actually work, just "force it! I will not be denied!" I met a traveller from an antique land . . .
Quote:Originally posted by second: Maybe Trump should talk to his own people? Or is that too much work?
Wednesday, April 26, 2017 10:53 AM
Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:42 AM
Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Trump was, of course, right the first time. It’s an entirely meaninglessly milestone.
Thursday, April 27, 2017 3:10 PM
Thursday, April 27, 2017 4:36 PM
Thursday, April 27, 2017 7:48 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Once upon a time this thread was attempting to ridicule the accurate, pointed, and too-close-to-home revelations of the Obama illegal wiretapping of Trump. Have all the Obamabot drones tired so much of denying the truth and facts, that they don't even bother addressing their denials, delusions, and dungheap talking points anymore?
Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:02 PM
Friday, April 28, 2017 7:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: Actually, the FBI said that Hillary DID break the law. The only reason she "got away" with it is because they found that she unknowingly broke the law. In the same breath they made a point of letting everybody else know that this was not going to be a get out of jail free card for anybody else. Yeah. That was Comey who said that. I think you guys were trying to say that he is Trump's pet, right? lol
Friday, April 28, 2017 7:38 AM
Friday, April 28, 2017 9:26 AM
Friday, April 28, 2017 10:07 AM
Friday, April 28, 2017 12:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Do you often "unknowingly" spread falsehoods?
Quote:There has never been a law that says if you "unknowingly" broke the law you didn't break the law.
Quote:The "unknowingly" might influence the severity of the sentence the criminal eventually receives much later, but the criminal still get arrested in the here and now, if the cop (not the criminal) feels like obeying the law. And Comey had plenty of motivation to feel like arresting Hillary and let a judge sort it all out because the entire Republican Party was aware of every little detail of Comey investigating Hillary. The New York Times published a detailed story about why Comey did what he did. At every step of the way, Comey demonstrated either his fear of crossing Republicans or his concern over protecting his own reputation from Republican attacks after the election. He was not reacting to what Hillary did or knew. He only reacted to what Republicans might do to him or think of him. www.nytimes.com/2017/04/22/us/politics/james-comey-election.html
Friday, April 28, 2017 6:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: It should have gone to trial. Why it still hasn't is another disappointment of mine since Trump has been elected.
Friday, April 28, 2017 6:22 PM
Friday, April 28, 2017 6:46 PM
Saturday, April 29, 2017 3:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: Maybe if you keep hearing that it will sink in.
Saturday, April 29, 2017 5:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: Maybe if you keep hearing that it will sink in.Trump made a sudden U-turn on NAFTA earlier this week. To refresh your memories: “I was all set to terminate,” Trump said in an Oval Office interview Thursday night. “I looked forward to terminating. I was going to do it.”...At one point, he turned to Kushner, who was standing near his desk, and asked, “Was I ready to terminate NAFTA?” “Yeah,” Kushner said, before explaining the case he made to the president: “I said, ‘Look, there’s plusses and minuses to doing it,’ and either way he would have ended up in a good place.” Trump was all ready to pull the trigger, but then his advisors brought in a colorful map showing that lots of red states and counties would be harmed by pulling out of NAFTA. That is all it took for Trump to flip-flop on NAFTA, after years of him saying and doing the opposite. There is no equivalent explanation for Trump's flip-flop on appointing a special prosecutor for Hillary, either. Trump changed his mind for no goddamn reason at all. But then when I think about it for 5 minutes, maybe NAFTA and Hillary were just tales told by Trump, "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." http://nfs.sparknotes.com/macbeth/page_202.html www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/04/wednesday-was-most-dangerous-day-so-far-trump-presidency The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Sunday, April 30, 2017 7:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: There may be a link here as to why Hillary hasn't been prosecuted yet. We'll have to see about that one as well.
Sunday, April 30, 2017 9:42 AM
Sunday, April 30, 2017 11:36 AM
Sunday, April 30, 2017 12:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: The only thing I can say about your long thread dodging any acknowledgement that Hillary did break the law.... Yup. I'd like Trump to do at least a few of the things he promised on the campaign trail. It would be nice if for once in my life ANY politician did anything that they promised on the campaign trail. Here's a homework project for you Second, since you like doing "research" so much. How about you go back through every president in your lifetime and write up a list of all the failed campaign promises. I promise you that if you don't leave anything out it will end up being the longest post that was ever put on fireflyfans.net by a factor of three.
Sunday, April 30, 2017 3:36 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:(not trivial rule breaking and mishandling of unimportant and routine emails)
Sunday, April 30, 2017 6:20 PM
Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:20 AM
Friday, May 5, 2017 9:41 AM
Friday, May 5, 2017 10:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: ETA: Your actions, SECOND, indicate you're not here to actually discuss anything, but that you have a different agenda. If you're not going to discuss things, I suggest you rethink your presence here on a discussion board.
Friday, May 5, 2017 11:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: ETA: Your actions, SECOND, indicate you're not here to actually discuss anything, but that you have a different agenda. If you're not going to discuss things, I suggest you rethink your presence here on a discussion board. I don't bother with digging up old stuff people posted here like some others, but if you care to look a while back 1kiki, Second herself already admitted as much. She has absolutely no interest in having a discussion with anybody but herself about anything. I'm paraphrasing here, but she said that she is "speaking to the future", whatever that means. Pure left-wing elitist ideological douch-baggery. Nothing more, nothing less.
Friday, May 5, 2017 12:16 PM
Friday, May 5, 2017 1:57 PM
JO753
rezident owtsidr
Friday, May 5, 2017 2:11 PM
Quote: Second What is there to discuss with someone like you? You made yourself very clear who you are many years ago, as has 1kiki and Signym. Or have you been faking it all these years?
Quote: 6 I've been drunk for years. That's no excuse for my behavior, but you don't have a clue who I am, lady. What I can say is that I'm probably the most honest and definitely the most "human" poster on this board
Friday, May 5, 2017 2:35 PM
Friday, May 5, 2017 2:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: I think you are in for a big shock, 6string. All the "MSM Trump bashing rumorz" will be proven. Then you are going to hear crazy conspirasy theoryz from your rite wing media soursez for a wile. Then gradually, they will tranzition to a cya (cover your ass) stratejy az the facts emerj, attempting to distans the Republican party from Trump. Rite wing voterz, who are currently ignoring how much their congressmen and senatorz are trying to keep the TrumPutin skandel quiet, will not need to forget it wen they are being told that Ryan and McConnell dezerv credit for impeaching Trump. The more you insulate yourself, the worst the shock will be. ---------------------------- DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early http://www.7532020.com
Friday, May 5, 2017 2:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Jack, it's you who is not being honest about who you are. First, as SECOND says, you are closed minded. Then there were the perverted posts. Some that scared me concerning your niece. They made me hope her parents were paying attention. Years of drunken posts is a lot. Trust me when I say, you have been given close to a free ride here as far as being held accountable. As for SIG and 1kiki, there are years of posts proving what SECOND is implying, and what G, myself and others here continue to reveal about them. Not that they are passionate about topics, and post that way. But instead how they lie and twist the truth, and what they are doing is trolling these threads.
Friday, May 5, 2017 2:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: Trump iznt just disconnected from reality, he'z also really stoopid! ---------------------------- DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early http://www.7532020.com] Good post, loved the part about Paul Ryan and his hypocrisy.
Saturday, May 6, 2017 12:15 AM
Quote:For me to get you to back down is as impossible as me getting Trump to back down on Trumpcare ...
Quote:ETA: Your actions, SECOND, indicate you're not here to actually discuss anything, but that you have a different agenda. If you're not going to discuss things, I suggest you rethink your presence here on a discussion board.
Saturday, May 6, 2017 7:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: So, you're NOT here to discuss. You're here to do battle and vanquish anyone who doesn't agree with you 100%. Believe me, I could tell. In fact, I already pointed it out. In any case, for you to get me to back down on anything, you'd first have to address what I post. But since you've never even done that, as far as I'm concerned, your posts are beyond pointless as a discussion. Or even a battle. Care to try addressing the facts, again? Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?
Saturday, May 6, 2017 10:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: I don't watch Fox and I don't listen to Rush or any of that bullshit either.
Saturday, May 6, 2017 3:46 PM
Saturday, May 6, 2017 7:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Jo, you've always been a self important twat. When did you decide to be a douche as well?
Sunday, May 7, 2017 12:15 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:SECOND, you have thin skin AND you are nuts. Why discuss anything with you? And you're crappy at expressing your self, like Trump. SO bad at it that you can only repost what others have written. Apparently, you have no insight of your own. Don't try writing firefly fan fiction. You'd be horrible at it.
Sunday, May 7, 2017 12:18 AM
Quote:Az you keep insisting. I dont recall you telling us where you get your newz. -JO
Sunday, May 7, 2017 12:53 AM
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