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Friday, March 31, 2017 9:37 AM

THGRRI


1,000 Paid Russian Trolls Spread Fake News On Hillary Clinton, Senate Intelligence Heads Told

A former FBI agent testified that President Donald Trump helped spread fake news by embracing the stories against his opponents.


Senate intelligence committee leaders have received reports that Russia hired at least 1,000 trolls to spread fake news stories to hurt Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton during the presidential election.


“What really concerns me [are reports] there were upwards of 1,000 paid internet trolls working out of a facility in Russia, in effect taking over a series of computers which are then called botnets that can generate news down to specific areas,” said Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee. He appeared Wednesday with GOP intel chair Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) at a press conference before committee hearings began.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/russian-trolls-fake-news_us_58dde6
bae4b08194e3b8d5c4


And this is what SIG, 1KIKI and dreamtrove/sockpuppet are all about. These fake news stories are all over our threads, put there by SIG and 1kiki. These two have cut and pasted enough fake news here to fill an encyclopedia.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 9:43 AM

DREAMTROVE


Lol. I openly support them. Can I get a check? I'd rather be a paid Russian troll.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 10:07 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Like the VOA and paid American trolls (THUGR) never attempt to interfere with ... anything.

How droll!



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Friday, March 31, 2017 10:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by G:
"1,000??!?" That's all? I'd have thought the number was much, much higher. Come on Puttie!



Here we are again G.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 10:16 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Lol. I openly support them. Can I get a check? I'd rather be a paid Russian troll.

Did you vote for Trump?

Sen. Mark Warner said in the latest case, the paid trolls apparently focused on swing states in an attempt to influence votes there — Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania — where people were “reading during the waning days of the election that “‘Clinton is sick,’ or ‘Clinton is taking money from whoever for some source’ … fake news.”

Warner said it’s crucial that investigators determine if voting results were actually affected. Each of the three states narrowly fell to Trump.

“An outside foreign adversary effectively sought to hijack the most critical democratic process, the election of a president, and in that process, decided to favor one candidate over another,” Warner said.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, March 31, 2017 10:25 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So now you not only seek to delegitimize Trump (because of these phantom "russian connections" that you keep hyperventilating about) you also seek to delegitimize Trump VOTERS and anyone with an opposing view?

Anti-democracy and anti-free speech much?





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Friday, March 31, 2017 10:26 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Like the VOA and paid American trolls (THUGR) never attempt to interfere with ... anything.

How droll!

So now you not only seek to delegitimize Trump (because of these phantom "russian connections" that you keep hyperventilating about) you also seek to delegitimize Trump VOETERS and anyone with an opposing view?

Anti-democracy and anti-free speech much?

A Russian would be foolish to vote for the candidate promoted on VOA (Voice of America) as best for America. An American was a fool to vote for candidate Trump, promoted on RT (Russia Today) as best for Russia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, March 31, 2017 10:40 AM

DREAMTROVE


I'm going to go with "fake news" on this one.

Here's the story: Clint Watts told three senators that he thinks it's Russia
He said he has been on this case since 2014.

Clint Watts, is this guy.
http://www.fpri.org/2014/09/seven-flaws-in-the-u-s-strategy-to-counter
-isis
/
He wrote a lot about Syria and the mideast, all with a solid anti-Shia bias.

That's FPRI. Who are they? A pro-war lobby. They hate Russia because Russia is in their way. So is Trump.

So, Clint. He says "I got trolled, I looked into it. It was Russia."

Let's check that out.

Huh, you're writing is pretty good, and you're fairly objective.

Okay, several problems here. You got trolled, on the internet? Wow.

Next, you looked into it? You're an investigative reporter. You look into things. And then you write about them. Why did you never mention this one until now?

Maybe it wasn't worth anything to say Shia were trolling you. There are more Shia than Russians, and they have an obvious reason to troll you. Maybe it's not even the same Shia trolling you, maybe they're all individually offended.

But Russia. So, it's campaign season, time to Butter up.

Specifically, what did Clint say about Russian trolls in 2014? Nothing. 2015? Nada. 2016? Aug 15th, "Russians are on twitter, lying." Late November, 2016: Russian trolls. Ah, lost the election and now we see it.

Okay, so how about you articles on Russia? Some story about how jihadists hate Russia, in 2015. That's it. Okay, so why now. Oh, I see. FPRI said a lot about Russia. Maybe their opinion, not yours.

Getting to know FPRI better. What did you guys think of Russia before this happened? Oh, you hated her. When did you state hating her? 1955. When you were created. To hate Russia. So, you were the propaganda arm of the cold war? Your entire focus was hating Russia, spreading propaganda, and dismissing Russian counterparts, who, sure, were doing the same thing.

Okay, making sense now. Must've sucked for you in 1989 when the wall came down. Oh, yeah, I see. It really did suck for you. So you went on hating Russia, and in 1991, you switched focus to the middle east. Makes sense.

But someone beat the But Russia drum and you popped right up as experts on Russian propaganda. Okay, you probably are that. And you're smart guys and pretty honest. There's just this part of you I still don't quite trust. You hate Iran, constantly. And their entire religion, including a couple hundred million other people who are in it. And Russia. Because it's why you exist.

So, the obvious is that anti-Russian propaganda trolls ACTUALLY DO pay Clint's salary, with no conspiracy theory required, just a little investigative googling.

That said, it does beg the question, are there anti paid anti-Russia trolls out there on the internet?

As for pro-Russian trolls, there are a lot of Russians out there, and millions of them speak English, I'm sure there are quite a few of them. It's just this is like the islamic terrorism narrative: sure they exist; is that why we're hearing of them, or is it because the ones telling us were already obsessed with hating their target.

Still, if the Russians want to pay me for saying so, I'll show them where to send the money.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 10:41 AM

DREAMTROVE


Second, why do you think that what's good for America is bad for Russia and what's good for Russia is bad for America?

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Friday, March 31, 2017 11:08 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

A Russian would be foolish to vote for the candidate promoted on VOA (Voice of America) as best for America. An American was a fool to vote for candidate Trump, promoted on RT (Russia Today) as best for Russia.
FIRST OF ALL< SECOND:

YOU HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND MUCH OF ANYTHING ON RT ABOUT EITHER HILLARY OR TRUMP, HAVE YOU? Yet despite the lack of evidence on your part, you just take the meme that you've been given and use it as if it were true. I could say quite a few negative things about that, but I'm sure you'll come to the same conclusions yourself.

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As far as Trump being bad for America: That's your OPINION, SECOND.

You need to stop elevating your opinion to "universal truth".

Because, in my opinion, Trump is an EXCELLENT President!

If you were to look at events with less partisan eyes - IF SUCH WERE POSSIBLE- you would have noticed that the Trump administration has managed to get the various deep-state actors to out themselves, so now all of the sudden there's squabbling and bickering and illegal snooping and dirty-work all out in the open, with people pointing fingers at each other and trying to jump from the nasty mess and whistle-blowers and Wikileaks coming forward and telling us all of the dirty deeds that are being done to the Office of the President, his appointees, and to us.

And with all of the mud-slinging going on, the media is a confused mess, with real news, fake news, breaking news, sheer propaganda, and brilliant reporting coming at us from ALL directions. Wonderful! It's time that the MSM's monopoly on mainstream opinion was well-and-truly broken.

DISRUPTION IS GOOD. It's time to rip the bandage off that nasty mess and take a look at what's squirming underneath.

Podesta Hits Daily Caller With Cease-And-Desist Letter Over Alleged Financial Disclosure Violations
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-30/podesta-hits-daily-caller-cea
se-and-desist-letter-over-alleged-financial-disclosure
-

President Obama’s Own Defense Deputy Admits Obama White House Spied on Candidate/President-Elect Trump…
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/28/oh-my-president-obamas
-own-defense-deputy-admits-obama-white-house-spied-on-candidatepresident-elect-trump
/

BUT ... If Evelyn Farkas Resigned in 2015, How Did She Have Access to Trump-Russian Intelligence?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-29/if-evelyn-farkas-resigned-201
5-how-did-she-have-access-trump-russian-intelligence


McCain Furious At Rex Tillerson For Saying Assad Can Stay
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-31/mccain-furious-rex-tillerson-
saying-assad-can-stay


Michael Flynn Seeks Immunity In Exchange For Testifying To Congress, FBI
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-flynn-testimony_us_58dd889
fe4b0e6ac7093b323?5m79oc7olzxhl4n29&
;

Hellz-a-poppin', hon. Keep your eyes open and your wits about you, and you will see some interesting things, and it's not all good news for the DNC and its ties to anti-American globalists. Be prepared to start categorizing Beltway habitues into unfamiliar categories.


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Friday, March 31, 2017 11:13 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So now you not only seek to delegitimize Trump (because of these phantom "russian connections" that you keep hyperventilating about) you also seek to delegitimize Trump VOETERS and anyone with an opposing view?

Anti-democracy and anti-free speech much?




No troll. We are going after Russia. For invading Georgia, the Ukraine, war crimes in Syria, trying to destabilize democracies around the world, and for being a pain in the ass. If you play, you will pay.

And here it comes.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 11:13 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Second, why do you think that what's good for America is bad for Russia and what's good for Russia is bad for America?

Signym was selling the idea that a vote for Hillary was a vote for Russia nuking America because war between Russia and America was enviable once Hillary was President. She was that awful and Putin was that good, almost Christlike, a Russian ray of hope in a world of darkness. It never occurred to Putin, Russians or Signym that with Russia being:

1) the largest country in the world
www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-largest-countries-in-the-world-the-big
gest-nations-as-determined-by-total-land-area.html


2) and either the 6th or 12th largest economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

that Russia has plenty of work inside Russia for another thousand years ahead fixing Russia into a paradise on Earth before it fixes the rest of the world to Russian & Putin's specifications, hopes, desires and dreams.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, March 31, 2017 11:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Second, why do you think that what's good for America is bad for Russia and what's good for Russia is bad for America?

Signym was selling the idea that a vote for Hillary was a vote for Russia nuking America because war between Russia and America was enviable once Hillary was President. She was that awful and Putin was that good, almost Christlike, a Russian ray of hope in a world of darkness. It never occurred to Putin, Russians or Signym that with Russia being:

1) the largest country in the world
www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-largest-countries-in-the-world-the-big
gest-nations-as-determined-by-total-land-area.html


2) and either the 6th or 12th largest economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

that Russia has plenty of work inside Russia for another thousand years ahead fixing Russia into a paradise on Earth before it fixes the rest of the world to Russian & Putin's specifications, hopes, desires and dreams.




Very well said SECOND. Very well said.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 11:21 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Second, why do you think that what's good for America is bad for Russia and what's good for Russia is bad for America?- DREAMTROVE

Signym was selling the idea that a vote for Hillary was a vote for Russia nuking America because war between Russia and America was enviable [sic] once Hillary was President. She was that awful and Putin was that good, almost Christlike, a Russian ray of hope in a world of darkness. It never occurred to Putin, Russians or Signym that with Russia being:

1) the largest country in the world
www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-largest-countries-in-the-world-the-big
gest-nations-as-determined-by-total-land-area.html


2) and either the 6th or 12th largest economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

that Russia has plenty of work inside Russia for another thousand years ahead fixing Russia into a paradise on Earth before it fixes the rest of the world to Russian & Putin's specifications, hopes, desires and dreams.


Hon, Putin has been saying the same thing for YEARS. If you had bothered to learn a few little things about Putin and Russia ... instead of voluntarily drilling propaganda into your head 24-7 ... you would know that this has been discussed many times by Putin himself. In fact, there was a rather famous speech where he said something like Should the Russian bear just go to the taiga and be alone? That will not be allowed to happen, because the Russian bear will be followed everywhere, and never let along in peace" And yanno what??? WITH NATO'S FORWARD PLACEMENTS ON RUSSIA'S BORDER, PUTIN HAS A POINT THERE!

Please put you thinking cap on!

WHO destabilized or destroyed Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, and South Sudan? And who watched from the sidelines while all of this happened?

WHO was invited into Syria? The USA? Turkey? ISIL? al Qaeda? Israel?

Was it Russia that massed troops on our Canadian border, and placed missiles on the Mexican border and in Cuba?

Is it Russia that has 1000+ military installations around the world?

Is it Russia that spends more in weaponry than the next tend nations COMBINED?

Instead of listening to propaganda, just familiarize yourself with a few salient FACTS before you start bloviating m'kay?



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Friday, March 31, 2017 11:26 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

A Russian would be foolish to vote for the candidate promoted on VOA (Voice of America) as best for America. An American was a fool to vote for candidate Trump, promoted on RT (Russia Today) as best for Russia.
FIRST OF ALL< SECOND:

YOU HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND MUCH OF ANYTHING ON RT ABOUT EITHER HILLARY OR TRUMP, HAVE YOU? Yet despite the lack of evidence on your part, you just take the meme that you've been given and use it as if it were true. I could say quite a few negative things about that, but I'm sure you'll come to the same conclusions yourself.

---

As far as Trump being bad for America: That's your OPINION, SECOND.

You need to stop elevating your opinion to "universal truth".

Because, in my opinion, Trump is an EXCELLENT President!

Excellent? Really? Every time Trump goes for a game of golf, it costs $3,000,000. Four years times 50 weekends equals, oh-oh, a lot of money:

Trump family travel and protection costs will surpass half-a-billion dollars by the end of Trump’s four-year term, vastly more than has been spent for any other president. This despite Trump promising “I would rarely leave the White House because there’s so much work to be done.”

www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-trump-golf-20170327-st
ory.html



When Trump is not golfing, its time for coal!


www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/03/31/8-surprisingly-small-in
dustries-that-employ-more-people-than-coal
/


www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-coal-jobs-20170328-sto
ry.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, March 31, 2017 11:35 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Excellent? Really? Every time Trump goes for a game of golf, it costs $3,000,000. Four years times 50 weekends equals, oh-oh, a lot of money


You are the only one that I know of who would talk about "the cost of golf" in the same thread as "the deep state". Even THUGR, as confused as he is, is more attuned to what's important.

You have NEVER had a sense of perspective, and it doesn't look like you're going try developing one in the near future. FYI: Not being able to judge relative importance of things? It's called being irrational ... unable to ratio. And you, hon, are irrational.





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Friday, March 31, 2017 11:35 AM

THGRRI


It's hopeless SIG. The wheels are turning and Russia will pay...

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Second, why do you think that what's good for America is bad for Russia and what's good for Russia is bad for America?- DREAMTROVE

Signym was selling the idea that a vote for Hillary was a vote for Russia nuking America because war between Russia and America was enviable [sic] once Hillary was President. She was that awful and Putin was that good, almost Christlike, a Russian ray of hope in a world of darkness. It never occurred to Putin, Russians or Signym that with Russia being:

1) the largest country in the world
www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-largest-countries-in-the-world-the-big
gest-nations-as-determined-by-total-land-area.html


2) and either the 6th or 12th largest economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

that Russia has plenty of work inside Russia for another thousand years ahead fixing Russia into a paradise on Earth before it fixes the rest of the world to Russian & Putin's specifications, hopes, desires and dreams.


Hon, Putin has been saying the same thing for YEARS. If you had bothered to learn a few little things about Putin and Russia ... instead of voluntarily drilling propaganda into your head 24-7 ... you would know that this has been discussed many times by Putin himself. In fact, there was a rather famous speech where he said something like Should the Russian bear just go to the taiga and be alone? That will not be allowed to happen, because the Russian bear will be followed everywhere, and never let along in peace" And yanno what??? WITH NATO'S FORWARD PLACEMENTS ON RUSSIA'S BORDER, PUTIN HAS A POINT THERE!

Please put you thinking cap on!

WHO destabilized or destroyed Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, and South Sudan? And who watched from the sidelines while all of this happened?

WHO was invited into Syria? The USA? Turkey? ISIL? al Qaeda? Israel?

Was it Russia that massed troops on our Canadian border, and placed missiles on the Mexican border and in Cuba?

Is it Russia that has 1000+ military installations around the world?

Is it Russia that spends more in weaponry than the next tend nations COMBINED?

Instead of listening to propaganda, just familiarize yourself with a few salient FACTS before you start bloviating about who the "bad guy" is.






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Friday, March 31, 2017 11:38 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

It's hopeless SIG. The wheels are turning and Russia will pay...
FOR WHAT???

Please, be detailed. Get it all out in the open.

Make an exhaustive list of Russia's "crimes" and BE SPECIFIC.



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Friday, March 31, 2017 11:48 AM

DREAMTROVE


Second, yes, I'm concerned. I would be nearly impossible to hit below Obama's level of degradation of the environment, but any is bad, and coal is not a clean industry, esp mountaintop removal.

Sig, agreed.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 11:54 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

It's hopeless SIG. The wheels are turning and Russia will pay...
FOR WHAT???

Please, be detailed. Get it all out in the open.

Make an exhaustive list of Russia's "crimes" and BE SPECIFIC.




The list is endless but this applies to this thread troll.




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Friday, March 31, 2017 11:55 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


"The video is private"

Well, THUGR, it looks like you'll have to rely on your own charm and wit, god help you!

Quote:

It's hopeless SIG. The wheels are turning and Russia will pay... - THUGR

FOR WHAT???
Please, be detailed. Get it all out in the open.
Make an exhaustive list of Russia's "crimes" and BE SPECIFIC. - SIGNY



I really don't expect an answer any time soon. THUGR, like all of the neocons and liberaloids here, have never been able to define what AMERICAN interests are. Because of that, they have never really been able to discern when our interests are actually being threatened and by whom. That's why they wind up hyperventilating about WMD and Assad and golf and all of the kinds of stupid shit that get thrown in front of them as giant distractions.






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Friday, March 31, 2017 12:23 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Oh, "the Russians" will pay for their tweets and trolls, as depicted in the television series Homeland?

[/snicker]



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Friday, March 31, 2017 12:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, "the Russians" will pay for their tweets and trolls, as depicted in the television series Homeland?

[/snicker]




Yep, that's exactly right.



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Friday, March 31, 2017 12:47 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Wow, better save the "idiot" sign for yourself!

DOOD! Do you really think that we don't do the same?



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Friday, March 31, 2017 12:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Wow, better save the "idiot" sign for yourself!

DOOD! Do you really think that we don't do the same?




Again a defense of Russia by pointing a finger at America. No surprise here comrade. Where's your stooge Jack?

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Friday, March 31, 2017 1:31 PM

THGRRI


The money trail is littered with bodies

“There’s been more dead Russians in the past three months that are tied to this investigation who have assets in banks all over the world. They are dropping dead, even in western countries,” Watts concluded. “These are all huge openings to understand how they are funded by the Russian government. I don’t have the capability to do that from where I sit, but I think that’s a huge angle.”

http://www.salon.com/2017/03/31/5-revelations-from-the-senate-intellig
ence-committees-first-public-hearing-on-russia-and-the-2016-elections_partner
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Friday, March 31, 2017 1:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Like the VOA and paid American trolls (THUGR) never attempt to interfere with ... anything.

How droll!




Of course you are wrong. Significant difference: T brings information he believes to be true, while Russian trolls promote stories they know to be false. "Hillary will start WWIII," "Hillary has Parkinson's"or some brain ailment, "Pizza/Pedophile Gate" "Killed her competitors," etc. I'm sure there's a long list of the disinformation/fake news posted by Trolls for Trump online if you don't already have one.



Just a firefly fan who got tired of SIG and 1kiki's constant attacks against America, while simultaneously pushing Putins' agenda. I post from mainstream sources and not zerohedge and RT as SIG does. That should say it all.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 2:46 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

FOR WHAT???
Please, be detailed. Get it all out in the open.
Make an exhaustive list of Russia's "crimes" and BE SPECIFIC. - SIGNY



I really don't expect an answer any time soon. THUGR, like all of the neocons and liberaloids here, have never been able to define what AMERICAN interests are. Because of that, they have never really been able to discern when our interests are actually being threatened and by whom. That's why they wind up hyperventilating about WMD and Assad and golf and all of the kinds of stupid shit that get thrown in front of them as giant distractions.

Signym!

Trump, or at least his people, are not following your notions about Russia and treating it fairly. Maybe Trump should give the Secretary of State and Defense a firm lecture on what is and is not in the interests of the USA? How could Trump betray you in this fashion? You say "Make an exhaustive list of Russia's "crimes" and BE SPECIFIC." Where is Trump's list? You say "Because, in my opinion, Trump is an EXCELLENT President!" Is the following your idea of Trump's excellent policy?

www.cnn.com/2017/03/31/politics/rex-tillerson-russia-ukraine/index.htm
l

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said Friday that US sanctions against Russia will remain in place until Moscow "reverses the actions" it has taken in Ukraine.

The comments are notable given President Donald Trump's at-times reluctance to criticize Russia over its actions in Crimea, though he did declare last month that the territory was "taken" by Russia. As a candidate, Trump hinted he might recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea, and sources have previously told CNN that Ukraine-related sanctions were on the table for review as part of Trump's interest in pursuing warmer ties with Moscow.

"American and NATO support for Ukraine remains steadfast. As we have repeated at every ministerial and summit since Russia launched its campaign of aggression against Ukraine, NATO allies stand firm in our support of Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity," Tillerson said at a NATO meeting at the organization's headquarters in Brussels. "We do not, and will not, accept Russian efforts to change the borders of territory of Ukraine."

He added, "We will continue to hold Russia accountable to its Minsk commitments. The United States sanctions will remain until Moscow reverses the actions that triggered our sanctions."

At his confirmation hearings in January, Tillerson called Russia's claims on Crimea "illegitimate." His comments on Friday also echo those made by US Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley, when she told the UN Security Council last month that US sanctions against Russia would remain in place until it withdraws from Crimea.

Earlier Friday, Tillerson and Defense Secretary James Mattis criticized Russian actions in overseas comments aimed at reassuring US allies.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, March 31, 2017 2:51 PM

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Enough with the Russia fear mongering crap, ya psychos.

You guys got my Mom thinking we're in the middle of the 2nd Cold War or something. what the hell is wrong with you people?

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Friday, March 31, 2017 2:53 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I see you STILL can't answer the question.




Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 2:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
I see you STILL can't answer the question.






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Friday, March 31, 2017 3:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Excellent? Really? Every time Trump goes for a game of golf, it costs $3,000,000. Four years times 50 weekends equals, oh-oh, a lot of money


You are the only one that I know of who would talk about "the cost of golf" in the same thread as "the deep state". Even THUGR, as confused as he is, is more attuned to what's important.

You have NEVER had a sense of perspective, and it doesn't look like you're going try developing one in the near future. FYI: Not being able to judge relative importance of things? It's called being irrational ... unable to ratio. And you, hon, are irrational.





Fallacy of relative privation SIG, fallacy of relative privation.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 3:44 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by THUGGER:
stupid video


TWEETS picked up by the media? I'd say the media isn't doing its job and vetting its news.

Oh wait! Aren't you and G and kpo believers in the veracity of the Twitter-verse source?




Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 4:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by THUGGER:
stupid video


TWEETS picked up by the media? I'd say the media isn't doing its job and vetting its news.

Oh wait! Aren't you and G and kpo believers in the veracity of the Twitter-verse source?




We deal in facts. Fact, I never said what you quote.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 4:33 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Podesta Hits Daily Caller With Cease-And-Desist Letter Over Alleged Financial Disclosure Violations
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-30/podesta-hits-daily-caller-cea
se-and-desist-letter-over-alleged-financial-disclosure
-

VERIFIED https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/847226880822398976
Quote:


President Obama’s Own Defense Deputy Admits Obama White House Spied on Candidate/President-Elect Trump…
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/28/oh-my-president-obamas
-own
- defense-deputy-admits-obama-white-house-spied-on-candidatepresident-elect-trump/

VERIFIED https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=Euq0NitCFZk
Quote:

BUT ... If Evelyn Farkas Resigned in 2015, How Did She Have Access to Trump-Russian Intelligence?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-29/if-evelyn-farkas-resigned-201
5-how-did-she-have-access-trump-russian-intelligence

VERIFIED http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/pro-defense-farkas-wrightewing-2
14223
Quote:

McCain Furious At Rex Tillerson For Saying Assad Can Stay
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-31/mccain-furious-rex-tillerson-
saying-assad-can-stay

VERIFIED https://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=5FD50
9AF-BFB9-4B8C-BA9B-DAAC3F870B69
Quote:

Michael Flynn Seeks Immunity In Exchange For Testifying To Congress, FBI
http: //www. huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-flynn-testimony_us_58dd889fe4b0e6ac7093b323?5m79oc7olzxhl4n29&

VERIFIED https:// www. youtube.com/watch?v=2r0LkDdzBjs






Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 4:40 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

We deal in facts. Fact, I never said what you quote.
No, you all just posted tweets, and stories about tweets, as if they were 'evidence' to back up your claims.





Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 4:42 PM

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The best lies are woven with elements of the truth.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Podesta Hits Daily Caller With Cease-And-Desist Letter Over Alleged Financial Disclosure Violations
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-30/podesta-hits-daily-caller-cea
se-and-desist-letter-over-alleged-financial-disclosure
-

VERIFIED https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/847226880822398976
Quote:


President Obama’s Own Defense Deputy Admits Obama White House Spied on Candidate/President-Elect Trump…
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/28/oh-my-president-obamas
-own
- defense-deputy-admits-obama-white-house-spied-on-candidatepresident-elect-trump/

VERIFIED https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=Euq0NitCFZk
Quote:

BUT ... If Evelyn Farkas Resigned in 2015, How Did She Have Access to Trump-Russian Intelligence?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-29/if-evelyn-farkas-resigned-201
5-how-did-she-have-access-trump-russian-intelligence

VERIFIED http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/pro-defense-farkas-wrightewing-2
14223
Quote:

McCain Furious At Rex Tillerson For Saying Assad Can Stay
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-31/mccain-furious-rex-tillerson-
saying-assad-can-stay

VERIFIED https://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=5FD50
9AF-BFB9-4B8C-BA9B-DAAC3F870B69
Quote:

Michael Flynn Seeks Immunity In Exchange For Testifying To Congress, FBI
http: //www. huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-flynn-testimony_us_58dd889fe4b0e6ac7093b323?5m79oc7olzxhl4n29&

VERIFIED https:// www. youtube.com/watch?v=2r0LkDdzBjs









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Friday, March 31, 2017 4:51 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
The best lies are woven with elements of the truth.

I'll take that as an admission that you lie.




Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 4:53 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

We deal in facts. Fact, I never said what you quote.
No, you all just posted tweets, and stories about tweets, as if they were 'evidence' to back up your claims.




Geeze, I post one tweet in all my time here and you fall apart. Look, Russia is going to be dismantled one brick at a time. All your bitching and deflecting isn't going to change that. Learn to live with it. Be happy about it like me.



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Friday, March 31, 2017 5:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
I see you STILL can't answer the question.






As I said, we are going after Russia. For invading Georgia, the Ukraine, war crimes in Syria, trying to destabilize democracies around the world, and for just a pain in the ass.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 5:08 PM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Enough with the Russia fear mongering crap, ya psychos.

You guys got my Mom thinking we're in the middle of the 2nd Cold War or something. what the hell is wrong with you people?


Oh come on, it's Epic Troll Wars!
All I need is some popcorn.

Second, there will never be a re-uniting of Crimea with Ukraine. There might be a half-measure of an independent Crimea. They have now seceded twice. If they returned, isn't it going to be an issue that Crime has a massive Russian military base?

Si Shen, while Syria and Ukraine are debatable, Georgia was an intervention to stop a genocide. Destabilizing democracies is our job

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Friday, March 31, 2017 5:14 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Enough with the Russia fear mongering crap, ya psychos.

You guys got my Mom thinking we're in the middle of the 2nd Cold War or something. what the hell is wrong with you people?


Oh come on, it's Epic Troll Wars!
All I need is some popcorn.



I know, but my mom doesn't even watch cable news or hang out on the internet all day long and she started talking to me about it yesterday. She wasn't hysterical or anything, but she actually used the term "2nd cold war".

There has been zero proof of anything nefarious going on with Russia, collaboration or otherwise, and average citizens that don't get involved with internet flame wars are actually starting to parrot some of this crap.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 5:17 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Senate intelligence committee leaders have received reports
somebody said
Quote:

that Russia hired at least 1,000 trolls to spread fake news
somebody claimed
Quote:

stories to hurt Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton during the presidential election.
“What really concerns me are reports there were upwards of 1,000 paid internet trolls

somebody claimed
Quote:

working out of a facility in Russia, in effect taking over a series of computers which are then called botnets
He seems very confused about the difference between a person and a botnet.
Quote:

that can generate news down to specific areas,” said Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence
unintentionally funny
Quote:

Committee. He appeared Wednesday with GOP intel chair Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) at a press conference before committee hearings began.
The revelations reflect the results of a Huffington Post investigation this month, which found Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) had faced a “tsunami” of misinformation during his presidential campaign.

So, it's talking about primaries.
Quote:

Warner said in the latest case, the paid trolls apparently focused on swing states in an attempt to influence votes there — Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania — where people were “reading during the waning days of the election that “‘Clinton is sick,’ or ‘Clinton is taking money from whoever for some source’ … fake news.”
This is EXTREMELY CONFUSED reporting. First it generally mentions a 'tsunami' of gossip about Sanders. Then it brings up Clinton examples.
Quote:

Warner said it’s crucial that investigators determine if voting results were actually affected. Each of the three states narrowly fell to Trump.
So, it's NOT about primaries?
Quote:

“An outside foreign adversary effectively sought to hijack the most critical democratic process, the election of a president, and in that process, decided to favor one candidate over another,” Warner said.

Burr said that he and Warner were committed to getting to the bottom of Russian interference

that somebody claimed
Quote:

in the election. He accused Russia of blatant attempts to also impact elections in Germany
except German intelligence finds no evidence of Russian meddling http://www.politico.eu/article/german-intelligence-finds-no-evidence-o
f-russian-meddling
/
Quote:

and France. “We feel part of our responsibility is to educate
propagandize
Quote:

the rest of the world,” he said.
By the end of the first day of hearings Thursday, no one had yet testified about the 1,000 trolls,

no testimony
Quote:

but the investigation is just beginning.
Former FBI agent Clint Watts, now a fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute,

For most of its history, FPRI was deeply immersed in the intellectual prosecution of the Cold War. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Policy_Research_Institute
Quote:

testified that Russian attempts to influence the election started before the party nominees were chosen. Trump’s GOP presidential rival Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) appeared to be a particular target, he said.
So we're now BACK to primaries?
Quote:

“Through the end of 2015 and the start of 2016, the Russian-influenced system began to push themes and messages seeking to influence the result of the presidential election,” Watts said.
“Russian overt media outlets and covert trolls sought to sideline opponents on both sides of the political spectrum with adverse views towards the Kremlin,” he added.

opined
Quote:

“They were in full swing during both the Republican and Democratic primary season, and may have helped sink the hopes of candidates more hostile to Russian interests long before the field narrowed.”
he fantasized
Quote:

Watts said more details about the
supposed
Quote:

targeting of Rubio would be included in his written report to the committee.
He also testified

claimed
Quote:

that Trump helped spread fake news by embracing the stories
which were?
Quote:

that served the Russian agenda against his opponents.
Watts told the committee to “follow the dead bodies” to learn more, referring to several Russians connected to Kremlin fake news who have died in the past few months.

I suspect if you make a point of finding proof of something you'll find it - whether it's there or not.
Quote:

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday dismissed allegations of Kremlin interference in the U.S. elections as “fictional, illusory, provocations and lies.”
he claimed




Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 5:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Enough with the Russia fear mongering crap, ya psychos.

You guys got my Mom thinking we're in the middle of the 2nd Cold War or something. what the hell is wrong with you people?


Oh come on, it's Epic Troll Wars!
All I need is some popcorn.



I know, but my mom doesn't even watch cable news or hang out on the internet all day long and she started talking to me about it yesterday. She wasn't hysterical or anything, but she actually used the term "2nd cold war".

There has been zero proof of anything nefarious going on with Russia, collaboration or otherwise, and average citizens that don't get involved with internet flame wars are actually starting to parrot some of this crap.



And that's a good thing Jack. That's a very good thing.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 5:40 PM

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What's your point 1kiki? I mean, this is what's being discussed and all you are doing is saying it's false. Nothing new with that.

The noose is tightening around Russias' neck. Exciting isn't it...

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Senate intelligence committee leaders have received reports
somebody said
Quote:

that Russia hired at least 1,000 trolls to spread fake news
somebody claimed
Quote:

stories to hurt Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton during the presidential election.
“What really concerns me are reports there were upwards of 1,000 paid internet trolls

somebody claimed
Quote:

working out of a facility in Russia, in effect taking over a series of computers which are then called botnets
He seems very confused about the difference between a person and a botnet.
Quote:

that can generate news down to specific areas,” said Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence
unintentionally funny
Quote:

Committee. He appeared Wednesday with GOP intel chair Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) at a press conference before committee hearings began.
The revelations reflect the results of a Huffington Post investigation this month, which found Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) had faced a “tsunami” of misinformation during his presidential campaign.

So, it's talking about primaries.
Quote:

Warner said in the latest case, the paid trolls apparently focused on swing states in an attempt to influence votes there — Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania — where people were “reading during the waning days of the election that “‘Clinton is sick,’ or ‘Clinton is taking money from whoever for some source’ … fake news.”
This is EXTREMELY CONFUSED reporting. First it generally mentions a 'tsunami' of gossip about Sanders. Then it brings up Clinton examples.
Quote:

Warner said it’s crucial that investigators determine if voting results were actually affected. Each of the three states narrowly fell to Trump.
So, it's NOT about primaries?
Quote:

“An outside foreign adversary effectively sought to hijack the most critical democratic process, the election of a president, and in that process, decided to favor one candidate over another,” Warner said.

Burr said that he and Warner were committed to getting to the bottom of Russian interference

that somebody claimed
Quote:

in the election. He accused Russia of blatant attempts to also impact elections in Germany
except German intelligence finds no evidence of Russian meddling http://www.politico.eu/article/german-intelligence-finds-no-evidence-o
f-russian-meddling
/
Quote:

and France. “We feel part of our responsibility is to educate
propagandize
Quote:

the rest of the world,” he said.
By the end of the first day of hearings Thursday, no one had yet testified about the 1,000 trolls,

no testimony
Quote:

but the investigation is just beginning.
Former FBI agent Clint Watts, now a fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute,

For most of its history, FPRI was deeply immersed in the intellectual prosecution of the Cold War. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Policy_Research_Institute
Quote:

testified that Russian attempts to influence the election started before the party nominees were chosen. Trump’s GOP presidential rival Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) appeared to be a particular target, he said.
So we're now BACK to primaries?
Quote:

“Through the end of 2015 and the start of 2016, the Russian-influenced system began to push themes and messages seeking to influence the result of the presidential election,” Watts said.
“Russian overt media outlets and covert trolls sought to sideline opponents on both sides of the political spectrum with adverse views towards the Kremlin,” he added.

opined
Quote:

“They were in full swing during both the Republican and Democratic primary season, and may have helped sink the hopes of candidates more hostile to Russian interests long before the field narrowed.”
he fantasized
Quote:

Watts said more details about the
supposed
Quote:

targeting of Rubio would be included in his written report to the committee.
He also testified

claimed
Quote:

that Trump helped spread fake news by embracing the stories
which were?
Quote:

that served the Russian agenda against his opponents.
Watts told the committee to “follow the dead bodies” to learn more, referring to several Russians connected to Kremlin fake news who have died in the past few months.

I suspect if you make a point of finding proof of something you'll find it - whether it's there or not.
Quote:

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday dismissed allegations of Kremlin interference in the U.S. elections as “fictional, illusory, provocations and lies.”
he claimed






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Friday, March 31, 2017 6:40 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
And that's a good thing Jack. That's a very good thing.



No it's not. You and your MSM goons are creating a panic over nothing.

Emanuele Goldstein. 5 minutes hate. 1984.

Read a book T.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 6:48 PM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:

I know, but my mom doesn't even watch cable news or hang out on the internet all day long and she started talking to me about it yesterday. She wasn't hysterical or anything, but she actually used the term "2nd cold war".

There has been zero proof of anything nefarious going on with Russia, collaboration or otherwise, and average citizens that don't get involved with internet flame wars are actually starting to parrot some of this crap.

Yes, of course. But on RWED, it's go whacamole.

1kiki, it's not news, it's Huff. and she's huffing and puffing but da house ain't goin' nowhere. well fried, I think I just posted something similar.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 7:17 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
And that's a good thing Jack. That's a very good thing.



No it's not. You and your MSM goons are creating a panic over nothing.

Emanuele Goldstein. 5 minutes hate. 1984.

Read a book T.



Try reading a newspaper.



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Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Really? Coming from the person who lies in every post?
links needed, with entire quotes, in context




Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 9:51 PM

6STRINGJOKER


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
And that's a good thing Jack. That's a very good thing.



No it's not. You and your MSM goons are creating a panic over nothing.

Emanuele Goldstein. 5 minutes hate. 1984.

Read a book T.



Try reading a newspaper.




I guess this means you guys are big fans of Comey again? It's hard to keep up with your on-again-off-again relationship.

That's the difference between books and newspapers T. 1984 is still just as culturally relevant today as it was almost 70 years ago.

You guys can't decide from week to week whether Comey is a good guy or a bad guy.

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